StrokerAce Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 When you address the ball with your iron how much distance between the ball and the face of your iron do you keep? Are you like the player on the left/top or the one on the right/bottom? I've always been like the one on the right/bottom but I'm considering leaving a small gap... Thoughts? Note - I realize there are special circumstances - I mean in the fairway, on a good lie or on the tee perseveringgolfer 1 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I'm sorta in between the two. I'm usually not right up against it, but there also isn't a lot of distance between the ball and club. Has anyone seen any considerable changes in switching between the two? bullldog 1 Quote Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I'm the "right up to the ball" type. Putting it too far behind the ball makes me feel like that's where my low point will be unless I really shift towards target. I probably will still bump towards the target the same amount if I'm right up to the ball, but it's just a feeling I guess? Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Bottom- I like bottoms.......................I think I should rephrase that CarlH, GB13, MaxEntropy and 1 other 4 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I'm with the 2nd option camp. Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bardle Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Im also in the bottom, if I'm having a chunky day, I'll actually lift the club up a bit at address so the bottom is hovering almost over the ball, that scootches my low point up, more thins, but no more chunks. Quote RH: Driver: F9 9.0º - 14g Low - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Woods: F9 3W - Evenflow White T1100 75G X Hybrids: F9 3H - Aldila Green X Irons: F9 One Length 4-PW - Modus3 Tour 105 S Wedges: King Wedges 50º/54º/58º Versatile Putter: Sigma G Tyne 35" Ball: Srixon Z Star XV #cobraconnect19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I'm the middle, but much closer to the bottom one. Too close, and I'm afraid I'll accidentally "tap" the ball (even though I probably won't, I'm just a head case) and have to take a stroke, and too far it messes with my swing. MaxEntropy 1 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I’m in between the two. I like maybe an inch, tops, between the ball and club. I get nervous about leaving the club too close and accidentally touching the ball. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 Widely known as one of the best ball strikers who has ever lived... look at the driver set up...wow! Kenny B and Shankster 2 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) Just now, GolfSpy Stroker said: Widely known as one of the best ball strikers who has ever lived... look at the driver set up...wow! That'll get ya hitting on the upswing... wow Edited April 25, 2019 by GB13 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share Posted April 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, GB13 said: That'll get ya hitting on the upswing... wow Yeah... I was really in to Moe for a while so I tried it..........once. GB13 and MattF 2 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, GB13 said: I'm the middle, but much closer to the bottom one. Too close, and I'm afraid I'll accidentally "tap" the ball (even though I probably won't, I'm just a head case) and have to take a stroke, and too far it messes with my swing. Does the new rule not protect you from that? Similar to the rule for knocking your ball off the tee on accident and getting the age-old joke "THAT'S ONE!" yelled at you? As long as you didn't deliberately touch the ball causing it to move you don't have to take a stroke? 19 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said: Widely known as one of the best ball strikers who has ever lived... look at the driver set up...wow! Oh, with driver I address the ball with the clubhead further back and not "up against" the tee/ball. Not quite as exaggerated as in the picture, but maybe half the distance? perseveringgolfer 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankster Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 Widely known as one of the best ball strikers who has ever lived... look at the driver set up...wow! I used to set up like this with driver, not quite as far away, but pretty far.... might give it a go after today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said: Yeah... I was really in to Moe for a while so I tried it..........once. I did it for 10 years, and it straightened out my slice. It's actually a good swing, but you can't set up like Moe and swing with a normal, standard swing. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, yungkory said: Does the new rule not protect you from that? Similar to the rule for knocking your ball off the tee on accident and getting the age-old joke "THAT'S ONE!" yelled at you? As long as you didn't deliberately touch the ball causing it to move you don't have to take a stroke? I thought that was just on the tee box, not everywhere on the course. I could be wrong though, does our resident rules junkie, @DaveP043 care to wiegh in? Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 I'm not right up to the ball; can't tell about the bottom photo, might be close. Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, GB13 said: I thought that was just on the tee box, not everywhere on the course. I could be wrong though, does our resident rules junkie, @DaveP043 care to wiegh in? Its Rule 9.4.b: Quote If the player lifts or deliberately touches his or her ball at rest or causes it to move, the player gets one penalty stroke. There are 4 exceptions, but none excuse accidental movement of a ball in the general when its location is known. And you are required to replace it before you make your stroke. This is the rule that prompted Webb Simpson to go off, saying they "have to get intent into the rules", and proceeding to show his complete lack of knowledge about the rules concerning accidental movement of a ball during a search. Edited April 25, 2019 by DaveP043 GB13, josmi15, yungkory and 1 other 4 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, DaveP043 said: Its Rule 9.4.b: There are 4 exceptions, but none excuse accidental movement of a ball in the general when its location is known. And you are required to replace it before you make your stroke. This is the rule that prompted Webb Simpson to go off, saying they "have to get intent into the rules", and proceeding to show his complete lack of knowledge about the rules concerning accidental movement of a ball during a search. Yeah, the word deliberately throws me off. Sure, if I was trying to move my ball to tee it up a little bit using the grass, that should warrant a penalty stroke. But if I accidentally touch it with my club at address, how is that different from knocking it off the tee, or worse than what ZJ did at the masters? Thanks for clarifying for us! Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 The wording includes "causing it to move" but yes the deliberately does make you think. Ball in teeing area is not in play until a stroke is made. He didn't make what constitutes a stroke. Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted April 25, 2019 Share Posted April 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said: The wording includes "causing it to move" but yes the deliberately does make you think. Ball in teeing area is not in play until a stroke is made. He didn't make what constitutes a stroke. Yeah, but what's the reasoning behind letting me accidentally slap my ball 50 yards right (if he hadn't hit the tee marker) but I can't even accidentally touch the ball with the iron in the fairway? It's one of those moments where I'm just not sure common sense was taken into consideration. Anyways, this has derailed the original topic sorry! GB13 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfertrb Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 When I'm addressing the ball with the driver I'm a bit like the first option but closer to the 2nd option when using irons etc. I've never really given it much thought until the question was asked Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Ping G400 LST 8.5* Graphite Design DI 6 stiff 45" Taylormade RBZ Proto 14.5* Oban Kiyoshi 85 04 42.5" Adams 4555 19* Matrix Ozik Altus 80 S/X 42" Ping G410 Crossover 2 Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0 40" Ping i500 4-8 Modus 105 Stiff Ping Blueprint 9-P Modus 105 Stiff Fourteen RM-12 53* and 58* Tour Issue Black Onyx s400 Odyssey Tour Black Series 9 35" Flatso 1.0 Srixon Z Star XV 2018 Ping Hoofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchunksalot Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I like to address the ball like the bottom picture. If I place the club too far behind the ball it gets in my mind that I'll chunk it, I do that enough. Sent from my SM-G955U using MyGolfSpy mobile app cnosil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I nestle the club up to ball, always have. Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I've never really given it much thought, but I'm closer to the bottom picture than the top. Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I am like the bottom picture. But I don’t deloft and close the face that much. StrokerAce 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 13 hours ago, yungkory said: Yeah, but what's the reasoning behind letting me accidentally slap my ball 50 yards right (if he hadn't hit the tee marker) but I can't even accidentally touch the ball with the iron in the fairway? It's one of those moments where I'm just not sure common sense was taken into consideration. Anyways, this has derailed the original topic sorry! You;'re right, this is kind of off topic, so I'll put it here: Spoiler The rules have to define when a ball is in play, and they've chosen the time when you make an intentional stroke to put it into play from the teeing area. Until that time, accidentally knocking it off the tee with your club is no different that dropping it out of your pocket, the ball isn't in play. Once its in play, don't move it. Historically, you touched your ball to tee it up, and you touched it again to pull it out of the hole. You only marked and lifted your ball if it interfered with another player's stroke. You weren't allowed to mark and lift your ball on the green until pretty recently, you had to play it as it lies, everywhere. And if you moved it, even accidentally, you were penalized. Over the last 50 years or so, the rules have loosened a lot, to allow you to touch your ball a lot more, and even to allow accidental movement in a lot of situations. But if your ball is in play, and you know where it is, and its NOT on the green, don't touch it, don't move it. Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markelly82 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 I would say it's dependent on if I'm in the rough or on the fairway on how I address the ball. If I'm in the fairway, I'm a little closer to the ball and if In the rough a little farther away. I don't want to bump or move the ball. StrokerAce 1 Quote Driver: G410 LST, 10.5 *. Even Flow 70G X-Stiff .5 extended, Golf Pride MCC Align Grip FW Wood: Titleist 3, 15*, DIamana 70G Stiff ; 5 extended, Golf Pride MCC Align Grip Hybrid: Sim Max 19* Ventus Stiff Shaft, Golf Pride MCC Align Grip Sim Max 22* Ventus Stiff Shaft, Golf Pride MCC Align Grip Irons: PSI 5-PW C-Taper 130 X-stiff Wedges: RTX-3, 52-56-60* Putter: 34 Inch E-1 with Pixel insert. Golf Ball: TP5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 This is too much to worry about. Just hit it.Take Dead Aim silver & black 1 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSauer Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tsmithjr9 said: This is too much to worry about. Just hit it. This can be applied to every single part of the game. silver & black and DiscipleofPenick 2 Quote Driver: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4 Fairway: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65 Hybrid: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S Hybrid: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80 Irons: P790 5-PW | DG S300 Wedges: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200 Putter: Link.1 | Accra x LAB --- LAB Golf Link.1 Review --- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 As close as I can get comfortably without touching or moving the ball. Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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