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Sort of late to this but agree that Otsego Country Club is a fun course - really underrated given all the more publicized courses in the area.  Have you played Belvedere since the 2017 redo?  Last I was there (2015 I think) it was in sort of disappointing condition, especially given the reputation.


Yeah. Played it last year. I’d played it years ago in HS, so I don’t have anything to compare it to.

But it was still magical, and the greens were very complex.

What did they change?

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1 hour ago, gbtrsc said:

Love Dunmaglas. And The Legend Shanty Creek.


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Not really a fan of the Legend but love Cedar River

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1 hour ago, Shankster said:

 


Yeah. Played it last year. I’d played it years ago in HS, so I don’t have anything to compare it to.

But it was still magical, and the greens were very complex.

What did they change?

 

Here's the description from the website:

In 2017, the historic Belvedere Golf Club turned back the clock thanks to a find that has purists and golf aficionados alike looking to experience the fine layout.

In the summer of 2016, the demolishment of an old building in Charlevoix led to the discovery of the famous architect’s original drawings of the historic course. While aerial photos existed from the late 1930’s, there was no actual documentation of the original parkland design with its classic flowing fairways, strategic bunkers and subtle greens.

After 95 years, with the genius of William Watson having resurfaced, the decision was quickly made to begin a restoration that would restore much of what had been lost over the decades.  Under the watchful eyes of golf architect Bruce Hepner and course superintendent Rick Grunch the restoration project will be completed for the 2017 season. Hepner, a former Tom Doak disciple, has been highly regarded in the industry as a specialist when it comes to classic course restorations by legendary designers such as Ross, Tillinghast, MacKenzie and now Watson to name a few.

Hepner and Grunch spent a great deal of time studying the plans and walking the golf course. That led to changes like expanding putting surface areas on many of the holes that were lost over time, and strategic tree removal. The tree removal has opened up the winding creek that meanders through the front nine and brought it back in play in certain areas. Other changes included restoring and expanding lost fairway and approach areas, as well as bringing back lost bunkers. The work has brought back some of the strategies for playing the course that Watson originally intended.

The new design strategies are most evident at the historic 16th hole, a favorite of legendary golfers like Gene Sarazen, who spoke highly of the hole even late into his life. The classic short par 4, known for its well-positioned green set in the hillside, lost some of its green complex over the years, as well as a strategic bunker and fairway approach area on the left side. Hepner has brought the expanded putting surface and left side bunker back in play challenging the golfer up the left side for the best approach angle.

Examples like the 16th hole can now be found throughout the golf course. The restoration has clearly brought the course’s historic strategy and challenges back into play while still maintaining the playability and fun for all levels of players.

Belvedere was recently named 2016 Michigan Course of the Year by the Michigan Golf Course Owners Association. The course is also ranked among the Top 10 courses in Michigan.

 

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I've been fortunate enough to play several great golf courses.

 

1. Pine Valley

2. Aronimink

3. Royal County Down

4. Merion

5. St. Andrews

6. TPC Jasna Polana

7. Pinehurst #2

8. Bethpage Black

9. Torrey Pines South

10. Kilmarlic

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Here's the description from the website:

In 2017, the historic Belvedere Golf Club turned back the clock thanks to a find that has purists and golf aficionados alike looking to experience the fine layout.

In the summer of 2016, the demolishment of an old building in Charlevoix led to the discovery of the famous architect’s original drawings of the historic course. While aerial photos existed from the late 1930’s, there was no actual documentation of the original parkland design with its classic flowing fairways, strategic bunkers and subtle greens.

After 95 years, with the genius of William Watson having resurfaced, the decision was quickly made to begin a restoration that would restore much of what had been lost over the decades.  Under the watchful eyes of golf architect Bruce Hepner and course superintendent Rick Grunch the restoration project will be completed for the 2017 season. Hepner, a former Tom Doak disciple, has been highly regarded in the industry as a specialist when it comes to classic course restorations by legendary designers such as Ross, Tillinghast, MacKenzie and now Watson to name a few.

Hepner and Grunch spent a great deal of time studying the plans and walking the golf course. That led to changes like expanding putting surface areas on many of the holes that were lost over time, and strategic tree removal. The tree removal has opened up the winding creek that meanders through the front nine and brought it back in play in certain areas. Other changes included restoring and expanding lost fairway and approach areas, as well as bringing back lost bunkers. The work has brought back some of the strategies for playing the course that Watson originally intended.

The new design strategies are most evident at the historic 16th hole, a favorite of legendary golfers like Gene Sarazen, who spoke highly of the hole even late into his life. The classic short par 4, known for its well-positioned green set in the hillside, lost some of its green complex over the years, as well as a strategic bunker and fairway approach area on the left side. Hepner has brought the expanded putting surface and left side bunker back in play challenging the golfer up the left side for the best approach angle.

Examples like the 16th hole can now be found throughout the golf course. The restoration has clearly brought the course’s historic strategy and challenges back into play while still maintaining the playability and fun for all levels of players.

Belvedere was recently named 2016 Michigan Course of the Year by the Michigan Golf Course Owners Association. The course is also ranked among the Top 10 courses in Michigan.

 



Well I’d say they succeeded. It probably should be number 1 on my list. And for $45 it was more than worth it. It’s my favorite course I’ve played to date.

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5 minutes ago, Shankster said:

 

 


Well I’d say they succeeded. It probably should be number 1 on my list. And for $45 it was more than worth it. It’s my favorite course I’ve played to date.

 

 

I will try to get up there then before the rates change (after the 15th).  Thanks for the info.

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I will try to get up there then before the rates change (after the 15th).  Thanks for the info.


Here’s a few pictures.

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53 minutes ago, Shankster said:

 


Here’s a few pictures.

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It is a beautiful piece of land - almost like it was made for a golf course

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It is a beautiful piece of land - almost like it was made for a golf course


That last picture is 16. To compare with what you remember.
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In no particular order:
Tobacco Road: NC
Farm Links: AL
Maderas: CA
Torrey Pines: CA
Windswept Dunes: FL
Ocean Palace: Japan
Onward Mangalow: Guam
Stone Creek: FL
Aviara: CA
Cliffs Glassy: SC


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Really? Tobacco Road?


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Top ten so far...in no particular order.

1.  Pine Valley

2.  Pebble Beach

3.  Shadow Creek

4.  Merion 

5.  Friar's Head

6.  Shinnecock Hills

7.  National Golf Links

8.  Pinehurst #2

9.  Cypress Point

10.  Winged Foot

11.  Baltusrol Upper and Lower

Okay, so a few more than 10.  I had trouble just getting below 20.

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Fun stuff! Hard to remember and narrow it down, but here's the first blush in no particular order...

1. Pebble Beach
2. Torrey Pines - South
3. Deacon's Lodge - MN
4. Tehama - CA
5. Harding Park
6. North Berwick
7. Carnoustie
8. St. Andrews - New Course
9. Red Tail - MA
10. Rhode Island CC

Notes: Pasatiempo was hard to leave off, it's probably #11; North Berwick may be the most fun golf course I've ever played anywhere; played Carnoustie the week after last year's Open - stands were still up, it was cool; Tehama is Clint Eastwood's course in the mountains overlooking Monterrey - the nicest, coolest and best-conditioned course/club-house/lounge I've ever experienced; Pebble was everything you would have hoped for, including an up-and-down from the front bunker on 18 for a par (20 foot downhill-sidehill) in front of about 50 people; played and loved Wolf Creek, so it's probably #12 - others include TPC Vegas, Stow Acres (MA), PGA National, Orange County National, Lake Nona, The Wilds (MN), Troy Burne (WI), Erin Hills (WI), Sea Pines (SC), Westchester CC (NY).

Kingsbarn, St. Andrews Jubilee, St. Andrews Old Course (fingers crossed!) are on tap in a couple of weeks, may be able to play Firestone later this year.

 

 

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I’ve only played 4 courses that even come close

French Lick Donald Ross

Cherry Hill

Autumn Ridge

Rock Hollow







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1) Oakmont CC

2) World Tour Golf Links - Myrtle Beach

3) Disney's Magnolia

4-10) bunch of local courses not worth mentioning

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In no particular order:

Riviera Maya near Akumal, Mexico - I really loved this layout

Kapalua Bay Course

Wailea Emerald

Wailea Blue

Warren Course at Notre Dame

Palmer Course at Geneva National

The Quarry in Canton, OH

Prairie View in Suburban Indianapolis

This pretty much rounds out my list of "memorable" courses.

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1.  Cypress Point

2.  Rivera

3.  Scottsdale TPC

4.  Troon North

5.  La Purisima

6.  Sandpiper

7.  Brentwood CC

8.  Ojai Valley

9.  Grayhawk 

10.  Avila Beach Golf Resort*

*Not the most noticeable but one of my favorite courses to play

 

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On 5/13/2019 at 1:46 PM, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Fun stuff! Hard to remember and narrow it down, but here's the first blush in no particular order...

1. Pebble Beach
2. Torrey Pines - South
3. Deacon's Lodge - MN
4. Tehama - CA
5. Harding Park
6. North Berwick
7. Carnoustie
8. St. Andrews - New Course
9. Red Tail - MA
10. Rhode Island CC

Notes: Pasatiempo was hard to leave off, it's probably #11; North Berwick may be the most fun golf course I've ever played anywhere; played Carnoustie the week after last year's Open - stands were still up, it was cool; Tehama is Clint Eastwood's course in the mountains overlooking Monterrey - the nicest, coolest and best-conditioned course/club-house/lounge I've ever experienced; Pebble was everything you would have hoped for, including an up-and-down from the front bunker on 18 for a par (20 foot downhill-sidehill) in front of about 50 people; played and loved Wolf Creek, so it's probably #12 - others include TPC Vegas, Stow Acres (MA), PGA National, Orange County National, Lake Nona, The Wilds (MN), Troy Burne (WI), Erin Hills (WI), Sea Pines (SC), Westchester CC (NY).

Kingsbarn, St. Andrews Jubilee, St. Andrews Old Course (fingers crossed!) are on tap in a couple of weeks, may be able to play Firestone later this year.

 

 

I lived in Monterey for 18 months when I was going to grad school and a buddy of mine won a round at Tehama when he played in a scramble at some other course. The pictures he sent me were absolutely phenomenal and I was just a little jealous!

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On 5/13/2019 at 4:46 PM, GolfSpy Barbajo said:

Fun stuff! Hard to remember and narrow it down, but here's the first blush in no particular order...

1. Pebble Beach
2. Torrey Pines - South
3. Deacon's Lodge - MN
4. Tehama - CA
5. Harding Park
6. North Berwick
7. Carnoustie
8. St. Andrews - New Course
9. Red Tail - MA
10. Rhode Island CC

Notes: Pasatiempo was hard to leave off, it's probably #11; North Berwick may be the most fun golf course I've ever played anywhere; played Carnoustie the week after last year's Open - stands were still up, it was cool; Tehama is Clint Eastwood's course in the mountains overlooking Monterrey - the nicest, coolest and best-conditioned course/club-house/lounge I've ever experienced; Pebble was everything you would have hoped for, including an up-and-down from the front bunker on 18 for a par (20 foot downhill-sidehill) in front of about 50 people; played and loved Wolf Creek, so it's probably #12 - others include TPC Vegas, Stow Acres (MA), PGA National, Orange County National, Lake Nona, The Wilds (MN), Troy Burne (WI), Erin Hills (WI), Sea Pines (SC), Westchester CC (NY).

Kingsbarn, St. Andrews Jubilee, St. Andrews Old Course (fingers crossed!) are on tap in a couple of weeks, may be able to play Firestone later this year.

 

 

I would agree with you on Tehama’s condition but I was not that impressed with the design. Thought Pasateimpo was much better. 

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In no order
- Kapalua Plantation
- TPC Summerlin
- Bears Best
- Royal Links
- Paa-Ko Ridge
- Poipu Bay
- White Columns CC
- Pleasant Valley CC
- Chenal CC
- Las Vegas Paiute (The Wolf Course)
Honorable mention
- Rio Secco GC
- The Revere GC


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