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I have a Ping Hoofer Lite from 2015 or 2016, and it's been great, but I'm ready to get a new bag and hoping for one with a larger opening for less tangle. My first thought was the 2019 Hoofer that just won most wanted, but I read in a few other places that tangle may still be an issue with these. Anyone care to weigh in here? Has anyone played with the new Titleist 5 Hybrid bag, or the Cobra staff stand bag? They both seem like they would be bigger but I can't find the info there... 

Aside from those three, what would people recommend for a stand bag with a larger opening? I'm not picky about an extra LB or two - I have a pull cart, so will only end up walking like 5 times/yr and am young and reasonably fit enough to where that shouldn't bother me. Also I don't care about 4-way, 5-way or 6-way, as long as it isn't 14-way! I just want the extra space for an Orange whip and/or extra club or two to bring to the range when I am trying out different clubs.

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Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash SZ 9* w/ Ventus Blue 6X 

Fairway:   :callaway-small: Epic Flash SZ 15* w/ Atmos Black 7X 

Hybrid: :titelist-small: 818H2 19* w/ Tensei White 90  

Irons: :cobra-small: King Forged CB w/ KBS $ Taper 130

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You having issues when you have it on the stand, or on the cart? Or both? I have a 3.5LS by Sun Mountain and I love it. I only have a slight issue with tangle when the stand is deployed, but on the back of a cart it's non-existent.

I noticed with their new bags that they changed the shape of the dividers though, not sure what effect this has, but maybe you can pickup last year's model for cheaper?

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To me, it felt like that "X" shape helped keep grips from getting tangled up, but it might just be a placebo/bias because I just really like their bags.

Also, while I was looking for a picture of that divider shape, it looks like some of the other models of their bags still have this shape. Also, there's the Sun Mountain bag thread in the Official Forum Testing sub-forum if you want to read some spy reviews on it 🙂

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Thanks - I have issues with the stand deployed while playing, so I just keep it upright while taking clubs in/out, but when I go to the range and have other clubs/orange whip/layers in the pockets, the tangle is significant. 

I'm not experienced with the Sun Mountain line but will check out the reviews, thanks - I do like how you can search their site by the top opening size!

Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash SZ 9* w/ Ventus Blue 6X 

Fairway:   :callaway-small: Epic Flash SZ 15* w/ Atmos Black 7X 

Hybrid: :titelist-small: 818H2 19* w/ Tensei White 90  

Irons: :cobra-small: King Forged CB w/ KBS $ Taper 130

Wedges:  :vokey-small: SM7 54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125

Putter:  :cameron-small:  California Hollywood 34" Circle H

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I used to use a Sun Mountain C130 and then a C130S.  I really like a stand bag, but I also use it on a Clicgear.  My beef is with that foot that kicks out the legs.  I just hate the way it sits on the push cart.  And tends to twist.  I really like a completely flat bottom bag, like the Ping Hoofer or TM Flex Tech.  But certainly get frustrated with the tangles in the Hoofer.  I like the Hoofer 5 way top and club arrangement.  Seems to me it would easy for Ping to have dividers that go to the bottom and divide each section.

If the SM had a flat bottom, Id consider going back to them immediately.

P.s. the Ogio's use to have the best tops in my opinion and best dividers.  But my experience is that they don't last.  The dividers come loose and fail over time.

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Hybrids: TEE CBX 3H (20d), 4H (22d),Project X Hzrdus Black Hybrid 85 6.0

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23 hours ago, dbdors said:

...My beef is with that foot that kicks out the legs.  I just hate the way it sits on the push cart.  And tends to twist....

If you want to see what I mean, what this guy at about 4:10.  At first he doesn't set the bag all the way down on the bottom support, but then adjust.  But the bag is still twisted, (because of that foot).  I am not sure if that is an SM bag or not.  he could have straightened it up, but it will turn eventually since the back of the bottom does not sit flat against the back.

 

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Woods: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 8*, Fujikura Ventus 6, stiff: TM M5, 13*, Diamana Thump 75, stiff
Hybrids: TEE CBX 3H (20d), 4H (22d),Project X Hzrdus Black Hybrid 85 6.0

Irons: TM M6, 5-GW, Accra 80i, stiff
Wedges: Cleveland CBX 54* (bent to 55*), 60*, Accra 80i, stiff
Putters: PXG Bat Attack P, 350g, 33", SS Mid-Slim 2.0
Ball: Maxfli Tour
Bag/Cart: '18 Ping Hoofer/BagBoy Quad XL
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My Titleist bag does alright. Even with 3 extra clubs in the bag for MGS testing, it's done well not to tangle. It is certainly on the bigger side for a stand/carry bag though.

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Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Nike Vapor Pro Combo (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Pro S300
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
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In my experience, the SM bags have the most 'friendly' bag openings. I've used several versions of the C130 and Four 5 over the years and have never had any issues with any of them when it comes to removing or putting clubs back. As nice as the Hoofers are overall, their tops are pretty crowded especially if you use midsize grips. All that said, I think your best bet is an SM with your desired top. Plus, they're the only bag manufacturer that actually has full length dividers now and that's always a good thing. 

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I have a 2018 Hoofer Lite and the club tangle is real I freaking hate the bag wish I would have never bought it

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Seem to have a consensus on Sun Mountain. Now I just need to convince myself to like their looks...

Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash SZ 9* w/ Ventus Blue 6X 

Fairway:   :callaway-small: Epic Flash SZ 15* w/ Atmos Black 7X 

Hybrid: :titelist-small: 818H2 19* w/ Tensei White 90  

Irons: :cobra-small: King Forged CB w/ KBS $ Taper 130

Wedges:  :vokey-small: SM7 54 S, 58 M w/ Modus 125

Putter:  :cameron-small:  California Hollywood 34" Circle H

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2 hours ago, hartrick11 said:

Seem to have a consensus on Sun Mountain. Now I just need to convince myself to like their looks...

Check out the GlobalGolf clearance section. Sometimes you can find the custom blank bags that have minimal branding on them for cheap. Last one I got from them was a 2015 SM Four 5 14-way for $105. 

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Mizuno JPX 921 Forged 5-GW | Dynamic Gold X100
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As others have mentioned regarding Sun Mountain bags, the kick stand is not integrated/built-in to the bottom, so it causes issues on carts, riding or push. I got rid of my XCR for this one reason. Store websites don’t do a very good job of listing the size of the top, so I went to the manufacturer’s pages to do so. Titleist and a few others do have integrated kick stands, and the top of the Titleist Tour stand bag is pretty big. Just all depends on if you want a clubmaker name on the side of your bag or not.


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37 minutes ago, PMookie said:

Just all depends on if you want a clubmaker name on the side of your bag or not.

For some reason I can't carry a bag with their logo if I don't have at least one club in the bag. I might have to break myself of that thought. 

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Sun Mountain bags are great for walking and range practical use....I have a hoofer, you get use to the tangle and/or find ways to avoid like removing/placing club in the bag when the stand is not engaged.  The hoofer has a lot of pockets and carries well.

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