Popular Post cjeffs12 Posted May 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) After hearing all the benefits of getting a putter fitting, I decided to give it a try. I was pretty anxious and honestly quite nervous when they were setting up the SAM put lab equipment. I really thought they would say I was too inconsistent and just tell me go with whatever. I do not have the greatest stroke, or so I thought going into the fitting. I like the look and feel of bladed style putters, but I promised myself to refrain from feelings, and stay open minded and go with the best putter for me. The first step of the process was selecting a few putters that I wanted to give a try. I selected a few based on looks and what I heard from here that did pretty well in testing. If anything this was more to calm my nerves, because the ones I liked were not suited to my stroke at all. Now I see why getting fitted is so important. I hit a lot of putts with many different brands and styles, but the ones I moved to actually test were the EVNROLL ER2, , and Scotty Cameron Phantom X 7.5. I chose because when hitting these two had the best results, and best alignment for me. For reference, the putter I had in play before was a Scotty Cameron Futura 6M stock. Now that I had the putters selected it was time to test, and this is where I really started getting amazed. I could see my path for the first time on a monitor, and man was I wrong about my arc. I thought I had a pretty strong arc, but I was more straight to slight. I also had a slower speed, so quickly I was suggested against the blade putter. I moved over to the Scotty Cameron Phantom X 7.5, and my efficiency went up 20%. I also, was able to deliver the face more square at impact better, and alignment went up to over 96% with the Phantom X 7.5. So, after about 4-5 rounds of putting 7 balls at a ten foot distance, and in between the system was calculating the putter at different lies and lofts to give me the best results. At the end it suggested the best setup, even with the grip I should use, which again I had been using the wrong grip ( going by the system). I have for years used an oversized grip, thinking that it gave me the better outcomes, but it suggested a stander grip for more consistent rotation and feel. After waiting for the putter to deliver, all that was left to do was to take it to the course and see what it could do. On the practice green I could tell right a way a better roll, and distance control. Through 18 holes, as a mid handicapped, I really put this putter to the test. I had long ones, medium, and lots of 3 footers and less. The biggest take a way is how close I was leaving the putts, I had left all but three inside of 3 feet (measured with the putter). I didn't do anything noticeably different putting wise, but my speed control was the best I have ever had! I will have to change my putting practice to include more 3 footers. I previously left putts about 5-8 feet range, so that is where I really focused on in practice. I am happy to say that I averaged 2.1 putts per hole, and I know that isn't the best, but for me that is a huge improvement. In conclusion, I do not want you to take this as a putter review, but as a fitting review. As I referenced earlier I had a stock 35" Scotty Cameron Futura 6M, and I improved tremendously due to the fitting process. I am much more confident standing over putts, and see true rolls. It may have been round but I am confident that with more practice with this putter I will finally get below 2 putts a hole, and maybe even go a round without a dreaded 3 putt. Thanks for the read. So, after one month I am very happy to report my results I am seeing on the course after my fitting. As I stated before I was averaging 2.1 strokes per hole, and now I am averaging 1.9, and my best so far is 1.7. I have added the gravity grip, and it has also added confidence to my putting. The distance control has improved tremendously and a huge reason as to why my putts per hole have dropped. This has also led my handicap lowering by 1 just in one month. I think it was Jordan Speith that said," when the putter feels good, it frees up the rest of the game." I agree 100 percent, I feel so much about my game. This fitting has turned a weakness into my strength. If you are on the fence about a fitting, I hope this will encourage you to want to get this done, in my opinion this was well worth it. Edited June 2, 2019 by cjeffs12 Updating to include results bellairemi, silver & black, josmi15 and 10 others 13 Quote STEALTH 2+ 10.5* FUJIKURA VENTUS TR BLACK 6X ZX MKII 3W 15* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX U.S.A. 8TX Stealth+ 19 Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White 1K 85TX ZX7 4-PW KBS $Taper 130 BLACK PVD RTX 6 Zipcore 50/54.10 Full Project X 6.0 GLIDE 4.0 60.10S DYNAMIC GOLD TOUR ISSUE S400 ER2v MIDLOCK 40” TOUR X NX9 with Slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-off Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Just had one wednesday and what an experience it was, learned a lot about my stroke that made sense and figured out I don't caulk as much as putting as I think I do, now waiting for some more options to come in before I pull the trigger, I agree with you the fitting makes the putter even better cjeffs12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygreens Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 So is it really worth $125 for a putter fitting? Sounds like it. I may have to get one after all. Quote TM Sim2 9* GD AD HD 6S TM Sim Max 15* Tensei Blue 65S TM M2 19* Fuji Pro 73S PXG Gen3 0311P 4-W Elevate TourS Vokey SM8 50*&54* SM7 58* SC Phantom X 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 So is it really worth $125 for a putter fitting? Sounds like it. I may have to get one after all.Depends on the person. The club champion session that g-off is at the new club champion in Virginia Beach so it is 33% off. If you are the kind of player that wants to learn about the.details of your putting stroke then they are worth the cost. CarlH 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-off Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 @Jollygreensin my mind well worth it, I was really amazed to learn the things about my stroke and actually swinging a putter that had been adjusted to fit and seeing the difference was truly educational. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAgolfer2017 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Great writeup! I've never had a putter fitting, but I visited the new 2nd Swing that opened up in Columbia MD, and was tempted to look at new putters, which come with a free fitting. MDGolfHacker 1 Quote Bag: 4.5LS Driver: Stealth 9* w/ Aldila Red 60 Fairway: SIM 15* w/ Diamana 70 Fairway: GBB Heavenwood 19* w/ Fujikura Pro 72 Irons: p790 4-PW w/ C-Taper Lite 110s Wedge: MG3 50 & 54 Wedge: Hi-Toe 60* Putter: Spider X Ball: TP5 PIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/6/2019 at 4:26 PM, cjeffs12 said: After hearing all the benefits of getting a putter fitting, I decided to give it a try. I was pretty anxious and honestly quite nervous when they were setting up the SAM put lab equipment. I really thought they would say I was too inconsistent and just tell me go with whatever. I do not have the greatest stroke, or so I thought going into the fitting. I like the look and feel of bladed style putters, but I promised myself to refrain from feelings, and stay open minded and go with the best putter for me. I am glad you put those thoughts to the side, I believe this type of thought is a big misconception on fitting in general. Good write up and results so far. cjeffs12 1 Quote Stealth 2+ 9 (Diamana PD 60 S 45") Stealth 2+ 15 (Diamana PD 70 S 43") G425 19 (Raijin 2.0 85x) G425 22 (Raijin 2.0 85x) ZX7 5-9 (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM9 45 10 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 49 08 F (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM9 59 04 T (KBS 610) Spider GT Splitback 34" ProV1 #23 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjeffs12 Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 On May 12, 2019 at 3:33 PM, Jollygreens said: So is it really worth $125 for a putter fitting? Sounds like it. I may have to get one after all. It would depend on your financial situation, but I can say I am really seeing strokes off my game just by getting a putter that was suited for my stroke. For me it was worth it. Quote STEALTH 2+ 10.5* FUJIKURA VENTUS TR BLACK 6X ZX MKII 3W 15* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX U.S.A. 8TX Stealth+ 19 Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White 1K 85TX ZX7 4-PW KBS $Taper 130 BLACK PVD RTX 6 Zipcore 50/54.10 Full Project X 6.0 GLIDE 4.0 60.10S DYNAMIC GOLD TOUR ISSUE S400 ER2v MIDLOCK 40” TOUR X NX9 with Slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josmi15 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I’m glad to hear that the putter fitting is working out! Good write up. That’s the only club I haven’t been fitted for (yet)Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Titleist 917D2 10.5 Ben Hogan GS53 3 Wood PING G425 MAX 5 Wood Cleveland UHX Launcher 3 Iron PING G30 5-PW Cleveland RTX 3.0 50/10 V-MG Cleveland RTX 3.0 54/14 V-FG Cleveland RTX 3.0 58/12 V -FG EVNROLL ER-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollygreens Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 A putter fitting is a must after going through one at PXG. Wow! Fit into a setup that I was making everything. Gen 2 Gunboat will be on its way soon. cjeffs12 1 Quote TM Sim2 9* GD AD HD 6S TM Sim Max 15* Tensei Blue 65S TM M2 19* Fuji Pro 73S PXG Gen3 0311P 4-W Elevate TourS Vokey SM8 50*&54* SM7 58* SC Phantom X 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 On 5/13/2019 at 3:54 PM, PAgolfer2017 said: Great writeup! I've never had a putter fitting, but I visited the new 2nd Swing that opened up in Columbia MD, and was tempted to look at new putters, which come with a free fitting. Of course you were PAgolfer2017 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Much the same as results above. I went through a putter fitting at PING HQ and it was quite an amazing experience. I verified I had a medium arc, really on the line from slight to strong, but shaded toward strong. Went with the Sigma Tyne 4 at 35" with 1* of loft added. The PING system showed my putting hamdxiao at the level of a 2.4. Which considering I'm 17.6 overall shows what the rest of my game is like currently. Ha It is well worth the time and any cost. PING Apologist #9, cjeffs12, MaxEntropy and 1 other 4 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gchester33 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Has anyone had any experience comparing a putter fitting to the results they got from using the Ping Cradle? Avidi77 1 Quote Driver: Callaway Rogue - Project X HZRDUS Yellow, 6.0, 63g Fairway: Callaway Epic 3 wood, Rogue MAX stiff, 75g 4-6 Iron: Mizuno JPX-850 - Project X 5.5 7-PW: Mizuno JPX-850 Forged - Project X 5.5 Wedges: Mizuno MP-T5 (50, 54), Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 60 ES Putter: Odyssey Marxman, Currently tested and kept Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour Pro 140cc grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxEntropy Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, gchester33 said: Has anyone had any experience comparing a putter fitting to the results they got from using the Ping Cradle? I had a putter fitting a few weeks ago. New putter is scheduled to arrive today and I plan on attaching my wife's phone to and see what I get. Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 nice write up! I had similar feelings from my fitting. Been rolling the ball much closer to the hole from all over the green. had a 1.7 PPG average on my last round out! cjeffs12 1 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjeffs12 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 46 minutes ago, B.Boston said: nice write up! I had similar feelings from my fitting. Been rolling the ball much closer to the hole from all over the green. had a 1.7 PPG average on my last round out! 1.7 is goals for me, glad to hear your fitting is paying off as well. GolfSpy BOS 1 Quote STEALTH 2+ 10.5* FUJIKURA VENTUS TR BLACK 6X ZX MKII 3W 15* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX U.S.A. 8TX Stealth+ 19 Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White 1K 85TX ZX7 4-PW KBS $Taper 130 BLACK PVD RTX 6 Zipcore 50/54.10 Full Project X 6.0 GLIDE 4.0 60.10S DYNAMIC GOLD TOUR ISSUE S400 ER2v MIDLOCK 40” TOUR X NX9 with Slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJMDO Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Having my putter fit was the most important thing I ever did for my golf game. I dropped my handicap by 4. I thought I was a decent putter prior to the fitting too! It sounds like you are your way to a similar result. Edited June 11, 2019 by BJMDO cnosil and GolfSpy BOS 2 Quote Great Big Bertha 10.5 with Graphite Design AD-TP 6X Epic Flash 5 wood (-1) with Fujikura Pro 2.0 7X Epic 3 and 4 hybrid with Graphite Design AD-HY 85X MP 18 MMC 5-PW with KBS C-taper Lite X-flex, hard-stepped 1x 51, 56, 60 wedges Newport 2 ProV1x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z1ggy16 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On 5/28/2019 at 9:55 AM, gchester33 said: Has anyone had any experience comparing a putter fitting to the results they got from using the Ping Cradle? I have. Cradle doesn't give you as much info as SAM or Quintic. Generally my results were validated using Ping app after having done 3 putter fits now. My issue is I generally putt much better in a fitting than I do on course. I was fit into a Newport style head but I also got told if I wanted a mallet, what I should look for. I am currently looking at getting back in to a mallet for the added forgiveness. Quote Tsr2 Ventus TR Blue Tsi3 Ventus TR Blue Tsr2 Ventus TR Blue 0211 ST 4-GW Axiom 125 Mizuno T22 Flat stick - who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Has anyone had any experience comparing a putter fitting to the results they got from using the Ping Cradle?It is possible, you just have to understand how the numbers are represented in the various systems. josmi15 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Putter fitting vs Putting lesson.....I wonder if a few lessons for the same price would shave more than .2 strokes off your game.... with an inconsistent stroke as you mentioned, I wonder if a few lessons would make even a bigger impact. Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Putter fitting vs Putting lesson.....I wonder if a few lessons for the same price would shave more than .2 strokes off your game.... with an inconsistent stroke as you mentioned, I wonder if a few lessons would make even a bigger impact.Probably a little bit of both... You can be a bad fit for your equipment which would only add to your inconsistency. When I got fit I was very good at returning to square, but my path was out of whack because my putter was too long and upright. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk MDGolfHacker 1 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 You can be a bad fit for your equipment which would only add to your inconsistency. When I got fit I was very good at returning to square, but my path was out of whack because my putter was too long and upright. Inconsistency is generally the result of manipulation based on prior results. Players are generally pretty consistent with their strokes but they may not get the results they want. People can become significantly better by working on consistent setup. IMO people focus too Much on path; face angle is the primary determination on the balls direction and square isn’t always the goal for a player. cjeffs12 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Inconsistency is generally the result of manipulation based on prior results. Players are generally pretty consistent with their strokes but they may not get the results they want. People can become significantly better by working on consistent setup. IMO people focus too Much on path; face angle is the primary determination on the balls direction and square isn’t always the goal for a player. It does surprise me a ton at how many of my peers do not have a putting routine. It’s the only thing you can keep consistent and makes a big difference! My strikes got better as a result of my fitting, and as a bonus it helped my path. I’m noticing more balls rolling nicely end over end now where before I was still putting well, but the ball wasn’t tracking perfectly where I lined up my ball for. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk cjeffs12, cnosil and MDGolfHacker 3 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjeffs12 Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 On June 14, 2019 at 8:04 AM, Tsecor said: Putter fitting vs Putting lesson.....I wonder if a few lessons for the same price would shave more than .2 strokes off your game.... with an inconsistent stroke as you mentioned, I wonder if a few lessons would make even a bigger impact. So after the fitting I found I was so inconsistent due to having a putter that did not fit my stroke. My original intent was to get a lesson, but first I wanted to get a putter that was fit to me, so that when I worked on things with my instructor I would not be working on a stroke that fit my putter but working on making me more efficient within my own swing. Both will bring improvements for sure, and who is to say one or the other is better, this was just the way I felt would be more beneficial for me. GolfSpy BOS 1 Quote STEALTH 2+ 10.5* FUJIKURA VENTUS TR BLACK 6X ZX MKII 3W 15* Project X HZRDUS Smoke Blue RDX U.S.A. 8TX Stealth+ 19 Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White 1K 85TX ZX7 4-PW KBS $Taper 130 BLACK PVD RTX 6 Zipcore 50/54.10 Full Project X 6.0 GLIDE 4.0 60.10S DYNAMIC GOLD TOUR ISSUE S400 ER2v MIDLOCK 40” TOUR X NX9 with Slope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, cjeffs12 said: So after the fitting I found I was so inconsistent due to having a putter that did not fit my stroke. My original intent was to get a lesson, but first I wanted to get a putter that was fit to me, so that when I worked on things with my instructor I would not be working on a stroke that fit my putter but working on making me more efficient within my own swing. Both will bring improvements for sure, and who is to say one or the other is better, this was just the way I felt would be more beneficial for me. that's cool. glad it worked out cjeffs12 1 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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