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Just now, TwoCoatsOfWax said:

Are you still gaming the RBZ?

 

... Lord no. I usually play a driver one season only and find something new at the PGA Show the next year. The Fly Z was the exception that stayed in and out of my bag for 3 seasons, rotating the last year with the BB Epic. 

Driver:   TaylorMade SIM2 Max 10.5* ... Diamana Limited 60R
Fairway:  TaylorMade SIM2 Max 15* ... Tensei Raw Blue 60R
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Wedges:  Cobra Snakebite 50* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
                 Mizuno T20 58* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Putter:  Cleveland Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5"
Ball:      TaylorMade TP5x (2021)

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... First, I love MGS tests as they give you a great starting point. Most of us know that hitting a ball on the range or even worse into a net with a LM is radically different than playing that club on the course. Standing in one spot and grooving a swing is just so very different than hitting a tee shot when there is water right and a big deep bunker left. Swinging the club with zero consequences and swinging a club with danger lurking is too radically different endeavors.


As one of the testers I wanted to provide my perspective on the tests. Keep in mind, this is my opinion and only relevant for me as a tester.

Yes, we hit drive after drive into the simulator but rotate clubs after 3-4 shots depending on the protocol they are following. We are also not just hitting into a “driving range”, we actually hit on a hole so results are impacted by hitting trees, rough, and fairway. Switching clubs does put you into a different rhythm because they play differently. I have found that I have to completely change my swing between clubs.

The other thing I experience is, just like on the course, you start adjusting your swing after you hit a bad shot. I also find that since the screen is 2d, I struggle to see distance; Not only depth but left and right.

I think the protocol that is used provides the best results on a driver per driver evaluation.
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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :cleveland-small: 588 54-14, 58-12
Putter:  Bellum Winmore 787

Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330, :taylormade-small:TM-180

 

Member:  MGS Hitsquad since 2017697979773_DSCN2368(Custom).JPG.a1a25f5e430d9eebae93c5d652cbd4b9.JPG

 

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... Great info cnosil. I did not know you hit into a sim replicating a course. But even hitting into a sim, you don't lose balls and your score isn't effected by a bad shot. Your brain knows this and allows most to take a freer swing. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying this is true for everyone. Watching Sam swing the club into the net, I have little doubt his on course swing isn't any different. But most of us simply hit the ball differently on the course when it counts, than we do in a net, at a range or even on a sim. 

 

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Driver:   TaylorMade SIM2 Max 10.5* ... Diamana Limited 60R
Fairway:  TaylorMade SIM2 Max 15* ... Tensei Raw Blue 60R
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Wedges:  Cobra Snakebite 50* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
                 Mizuno T20 58* ... Nippon 950gh r-flex
Putter:  Cleveland Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5"
Ball:      TaylorMade TP5x (2021)

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... Great info cnosil. I did not know you hit into a sim replicating a course. But even hitting into a sim, you don't lose balls and your score isn't effected by a bad shot. Your brain knows this and allows most to take a freer swing. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying this is true for everyone. Watching Sam swing the club into the net, I have little doubt his on course swing isn't any different. But most of us simply hit the ball differently on the course when it counts, than we do in a net, at a range or even on a sim. 
 


Don’t disagree on swinging differently. I am pretty sure I’d said I adjust my swing based on the previous results. If I am missing right or left, I am going to adjust. A lot comes down to the mentality of the tester; I personally try to swing like I do on the course. There actually is some personal pride in trying to hit good shots. For me it is different than just beating balls on a driving range, I do get frustrated when I am not hitting the ball well. While I try do swing the same, doesn’t mean I can always achieve that all the time.
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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :cleveland-small: 588 54-14, 58-12
Putter:  Bellum Winmore 787

Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330, :taylormade-small:TM-180

 

Member:  MGS Hitsquad since 2017697979773_DSCN2368(Custom).JPG.a1a25f5e430d9eebae93c5d652cbd4b9.JPG

 

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This year's winner compared to the one from two years ago:

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This is exactly the result I saw at a demo day this spring.  The M6 performed worse in my hands compared to my z565.  I'll be sticking with the Srixon for the foreseeable future. 

 

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Driver:   :srixon-small: z785 10.5 - Miyazaki Kaula Mizo 5 R-flex

Fairway:srixon-small: f65 15* and 19* - Miyazaki Kaula Mizo 5 R-flex

Irons:Hogan: PTxPro 4-PW - UST Mamiya Recoil 780 F4

Wedges: :taylormade-small: HiToe 50*-54*-60* stock steel shafts

Putter:  :taylormade-small: Spider Tour Red Sightline - double-bend black steel 34"

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10 hours ago, Crankenstein said:

Why’s the shot area so high for your 565?

Probably one wild mishit that wasn't removed from the data if i had to guess. 

Driver: Callaway Rogue - Project X HZRDUS Yellow, 6.0, 63g

Fairway: Callaway Epic 3 wood, Rogue MAX stiff, 75g

4-6 Iron: Mizuno JPX-850 - Project X 5.5 

7-PW: Mizuno JPX-850 Forged - Project X 5.5

Wedges: Mizuno MP-T5 (50, 54), Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 60 ES

Putter: Odyssey Marxman, Currently tested and kept Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour Pro 140cc grip

 

 

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One of the most interesting things from this data is that none of the drivers were positive strokes gained. I guess just goes to show how dangerous a driver is.

Driver: Callaway Rogue - Project X HZRDUS Yellow, 6.0, 63g

Fairway: Callaway Epic 3 wood, Rogue MAX stiff, 75g

4-6 Iron: Mizuno JPX-850 - Project X 5.5 

7-PW: Mizuno JPX-850 Forged - Project X 5.5

Wedges: Mizuno MP-T5 (50, 54), Ping Glide 2.0 Stealth 60 ES

Putter: Odyssey Marxman, Currently tested and kept Golf Pride Tour SNSR Contour Pro 140cc grip

 

 

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Why’s the shot area so high for your 565?

It’s the straightest driver I’ve hit in many years. Don’t know why the data are what they are.


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Driver:   :srixon-small: z785 10.5 - Miyazaki Kaula Mizo 5 R-flex

Fairway:srixon-small: f65 15* and 19* - Miyazaki Kaula Mizo 5 R-flex

Irons:Hogan: PTxPro 4-PW - UST Mamiya Recoil 780 F4

Wedges: :taylormade-small: HiToe 50*-54*-60* stock steel shafts

Putter:  :taylormade-small: Spider Tour Red Sightline - double-bend black steel 34"

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I'm right on the fence for this as my ss is 105 but the ST190 won for me. I was fitted on a lm inside smacking my own tp5x balls and I was swinging like real poop that day. I played Thursday after work and hot 10 of 14 fairways for the 1st time ever so I don't know about everyone's experiences here but for me it seems to work

DRIVER:                  :mizuno-small:  ST190, 10.5*, Fujikura  Atmos Black Tour Spec 65g, Stiff flex, Golf Pride CP2 Wrap, midsize

HYBRIDS:    :adams-small:    Pro  2 hybrid 16*, Aldila Tour Red 75g, Stiff, Superstroke TX1 Midsize grip 

                        :mizuno-small:           JPX 850 hybrid 19*, UST Proforce V2 85g, Stiff, Superstroke TX1 Midsize grip                                  

IRONS:            :cobra-small:    King Forged Tour 4i-pw, KBS FLT, shafts, stiff,  Superstroke TX1 Midsize grips

WEDGES:        rsz_scor-golf-logo.png        50, 55, 60 degree wedges with Genius 12 stiff flex,   Superstroke TX1 Midsize grips

PUTTER:       :odyssey-small:    O-Works Marksman 33.5", Superstroke 1.0 Flatso grip w/ 50g counter core

BALL:          :bridgestone-small: Tour B X                                                     
                  
BAG:          :Ogio:              Cirrus Golf Bag 
 
Shoes:              Skechers                  Hexgo Control  Shoes

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