SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted March 4, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 I was looking back through some REALLY old files of a driver design I was working on way back in 2001 and thought I would share it with you guys. The name was just a place holder but I the concept was to keep it simple and clean and make the technology the focus of the driver. Although you can't see the actual technology (all inside the head) I will try and locate more files that show what is going on underneath the hood on this concept. Many of the companies wanted a similar version but at the time the technology was not available...and actually still to this day has not been able to be incorporated in a driver although in the next few years you will start to see some similar technologies hitting the market. #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbush25 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 The head shape is definitely unique. I am interested in seeing what the inner workings of this design are. You have me intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWShoot67 Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 That is definitely Unique shape looks a little toe heavy, not sure if thats to balance the weight that may be in the heal or hosel. Without knowing all the intricate details of the inside cavity of this head I can only guess the COG and weight distribution, so I'll wait for those pieces of the puzzle before I decide whether I like or not! Tim PS: thanks for posting and welcome to MGS Mr. MyGolfSpy The Bag: Right handed Cobra King FLYZ+ 10.5* w/ Aldila Rogue 125 R 44.5" Tour Issued TM M2 10.5 w/ Mitsubishi Tensi CK Pro Blue 60S Tour Issued TM M2 15* w/ GD Tour AD 7S 43" TM R7 17.5 HFS w/ Tour AD 7S Stiff 42" Cobra S3 Pro's 4-pw w/ Aldila RIP Tours SLT 115 Reg. 5i 38.5" Titleist Vokey Proto's 52*,54*,58* all TTDG S-400 TM TP5 X Scotty Cameron SSS Tiffany 009 350 34.5" or Bettinardi BB1 DASS Proto GHIN # 5144472 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted March 4, 2010 Author SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 I am trying to find some of the inside of the head. In regards to the shape this was back in 2001 when pear shape heads were the in thing but this was more toe biased in looks because of the internal weighting of the head. That is definitely Unique shape looks a little toe heavy, not sure if thats to balance the weight that may be in the heal or hosel. Without knowing all the intricate details of the inside cavity of this head I can only guess the COG and weight distribution, so I'll wait for those pieces of the puzzle before I decide whether I like or not! Tim PS: thanks for posting and welcome to MGS Mr. MyGolfSpy #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 4, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 Very cool post. The R&D stuff in amazing to me. Cray supercomputers for clubs and such. I look forward to internal shots too. Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moecat Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Kind of like a big titanium bullet ... In addition to the internal features, I'm sure folks would love to see views from other angles, including the all-important address shot +1 on the VERY impressive sentiment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmmmmBuddy Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 What kind of sound would you have envisioned coming from this driver?? It seems that sound is becoming a very important part of Driver Design.. Driver - Ping G430 Max 9° | Ventus Blue TR Hybrid - ZX 16° & 18° | GD Tour IZ S 2 Iron - ZU65 17° | AeroTech SteelFiber 110icw S Irons - ZX7 MKII 4-Pw | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Wedges - RTX 6 Tour Rack 50° 54° 58° | TTDGTI S400, std length 1° flat Putter - L.A.B. Golf Link.1 | LA Golf P135 shaft | Garsen Quad Tour grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golf Hound Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 Would love to see some more images if you have them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 4, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 What kind of sound would you have envisioned coming from this driver?? It seems that sound is becoming a very important part of Driver Design.. Excellent point. At the range on Sunday two guys next to me were demoing drivers and were commenting on the tone of the old Diablo vs. this years. One said something like at least it is not as bad as Nike. While I personally like the sound of my Nike 5000 when I smash ball, the loud sound of the previous models kept these guys from even demoing the new models. Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted March 4, 2010 Author SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 Well until heads hit over around 410 cc's sound was never an issue. Hard to remember those days but this was not an issue when designing a driver back then. Excellent point. At the range on Sunday two guys next to me were demoing drivers and were commenting on the tone of the old Diablo vs. this years. One said something like at least it is not as bad as Nike. While I personally like the sound of my Nike 5000 when I smash ball, the loud sound of the previous models kept these guys from even demoing the new models. #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted March 4, 2010 Author SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 Still looking for more files but I did locate one more. Having to look through a lot of old hard drives. #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 4, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 That is cool looking. Is the face mirror finished like the older Exotics? Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted March 4, 2010 Author SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 There were a couple version of this model but this one did have a mirror finish. That is cool looking. Is the face mirror finished like the older Exotics? #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moecat Posted March 4, 2010 Share Posted March 4, 2010 The hosel looks a little shorter, perhaps? Also, the way it goes into the crown with that little flare looks a little different compared to how other drivers are constructed. Or maybe the angle of that 2nd picture is messing up my perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted March 4, 2010 Author SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 Moe - you are right the hosel was a little shorter. At the time hosels were longer especially some Titleist models which was the tradition although caused some weight placement issues. This allowed more weight to be used for the internal weighting system. Also the flare was a unique and actually was not solid inside the flare it had what is similar to I-Beams inside it. The hosel looks a little shorter, perhaps? Also, the way it goes into the crown with that little flare looks a little different compared to how other drivers are constructed. Or maybe the angle of that 2nd picture is messing up my perspective. #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 4, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 Sort of a left turn question, but how does one get to the place of designing clubs? The more I learn from threads like this, the more I realize just how complicated this is to do. Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted March 4, 2010 Author SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 Well I am sure my story is a little different then most but I had Tom Wishon write an article on this a while ago on MGS. He did not go into as much detail as I think he could have but you might find something interesting in it: http://www.mygolfspy.com/how-to-become-a-golf-club-designer/ Sort of a left turn question, but how does one get to the place of designing clubs? The more I learn from threads like this, the more I realize just how complicated this is to do. #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy Dave Posted March 4, 2010 SPY VIP Share Posted March 4, 2010 Well I am sure my story is a little different then most but I had Tom Wishon write an article on this a while ago on MGS. He did not go into as much detail as I think he could have but you might find something interesting in it: http://www.mygolfspy.com/how-to-become-a-golf-club-designer/ Thanks! The depth of knowledge that is associated with MGS is amazing. Volvo Intorqueo All the cool kids follow me on twitter: @GolfspyDave If you are not a cool kid, following me on twitter will make you cool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamo Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 CAD program? The shape is like a super-pear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tofudc5 Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 I love the details of the textured sole. Makes it look like an expensive product (ie Lamborghini laptop, Bose sound system, interior of a supercar etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie3Jack Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 You guys have a lot more talent than I do. Fantastic work. 3JACK Author of Pro Golf Synopsis. The Moneyball approach to golf strategy and analysis.Driver: Wishon 919THI, 10° loft, UST Mamiya VTS Red 7x, 44-3/8” long, 2,825 kg/cm^2 MOIGONZO WOOD: confidential2-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 17° loft, 40-7/8" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)3-Hybrid: Mizuno Fli-HiCLK, 20° loft, 40" KBS Tour Hybrid shaft (stiff)4-6 iron: Wishon 575MMC (CB)7-PW: Wishon 575MMC (MB)SW: Edel Golf driver grind, 52° loft, 16° bounce, Nippon WV 125 shaft.LW: Edel Golf Digger Grind, 60° loft, 27° bounce, Nippon WV 125 ShaftPutter: Edel Golf Columbia Custom Made, 35" long, 72° lie angle, 3° loft. Ball: Titleist Pro V1xGrips: PURE Grips P2 Wrap (red)Shoes: FootJoy Dry-Joy (black, size 14)3Jack's Golf Blog - http://3jack.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeves Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 What computer program is that in? 3d studio?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeves Posted March 5, 2010 Share Posted March 5, 2010 We want to see more of your stuff!! ...at least I do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPY VIP GolfSpy_X Posted March 5, 2010 Author SPY VIP Share Posted March 5, 2010 I will try to access some of these older hard drives to get some of the older stuff...most of the newer stuff I unfortunately cannot show We want to see more of your stuff!! ...at least I do #TruthDigest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJNiich Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 There's nothing to it. Making it amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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