lester Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 There is a lot of focus on fitting services lately. How would you rank them in order of importance and why? Driver fitting, iron fitting, or putter fitting. Quote Link to comment
Golfspy_CG2 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Great question. So the obvious answer is all three, but If I had to rank them it would go like this, for me personally. Driver: It set's up the entire hole for you, getting the ball in play at a reasonable distance for your swing, is going to affect the rest of your game. Putter: will be used on at probably 35% of your shots...a rough estimate I read once, if you shoot 70, you'll likely have between 24 and 28 putts. If you shoot 100 you'll likely have 35 or more putts. Irons: Not that they aren't important, but just feel the other two are more important. GolfSpy_BNG, russtopherb and MaxEntropy 3 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment
russtopherb Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: Great question. So the obvious answer is all three, but If I had to rank them it would go like this, for me personally. Driver: It set's up the entire hole for you, getting the ball in play at a reasonable distance for your swing, is going to affect the rest of your game. Putter: will be used on at probably 35% of your shots...a rough estimate I read once, if you shoot 70, you'll likely have between 24 and 28 putts. If you shoot 100 you'll likely have 35 or more putts. Irons: Not that they aren't important, but just feel the other two are more important. Interesting thoughts Rob. Based on your own personal experiences, and your ranking, did your driver fitting(s) have the most impact on your own game? tony@CIC 1 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment
McGolf Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I would start with the category you are struggling with most. SteddyGolf, tony@CIC, MaxEntropy and 4 others 7 Quote Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg Graphite Design XC 6S GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce Putter - Makefield VS LH Ball - truvis Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD. HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio. Link to comment
tony@CIC Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Just having gone through a fitting recently, my objectives and results were focused on GIR which was an issue with me. So driver first and then my long clubs - fairway woods and hybrids. The last on the list were irons. As a disclaimer I told the fitter I was happy with my short game and putting. Both of which I practice a lot. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy MaxEntropy 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment
CarlH Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 In my case, I focused on irons first because I was looking to replace my irons. Then I wanted to get my driver up to speed. While I had it fit when purchased, it was nothing more than a fitting with the pro watching ball flight to see which shaft worked best for me. Going though a LM fitting, I was able to improve the performance with a better shaft than the stock one from Taylor Made. Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment
dhartmann34 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 #1...putter. you use this for at least 25%+ of your strokes and it's where you'll save yourself some strokes.#2....irons. obviously you're using these throughout the round and they need to be set for you. But you can adjust for whatever irons you're swinging and most people have to adjust each day depending on which swing they brought to the course. Wedges would be #2 alone if irons and wedges are considered separate.#3.... Driver. You hit this a handful of times each round. In reality, most folks would be better off hitting 3-wood or an iron off the tee anyway and would perform the same or better than using a driver. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk ED13 1 Quote Driver: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Fairway: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Irons: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Putter: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant Handicap: 3 Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better Link to comment
SmoothG Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I agree that whatever you struggle with the most should be what you should fit first. For me, I struggle with driver. I took my driver out of the bag and will not put it back in until I have a proper fitting. Golfspy_CG2 and GolfSpy_BNG 2 Quote Cobra SpeedZone 9* TourEdge EXS 18* TourEdge C721 22*H PXG 0211 DC 6-P + G Cleveland Zipcore Full Face 52/58* Wilson Staff Infinite Michigan Ave Taylormade Tour Response Link to comment
MaxEntropy Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, SmoothG said: I agree that whatever you struggle with the most should be what you should fit first. For me, I struggle with driver. I took my driver out of the bag and will not put it back in until I have a proper fitting. I've done the same thing. I am currently carrying 2 3W's, one of which is a little longer, the other is a bit more accurate and easier for me to hit off the deck. Quote Driver: Epic Speed 9* (set -1) MMT 70X 3W: Tour B JGR Recoil 760ES 3H, 4H: Tour B JGR 19*, 23* Recoil 780ES 4-AW: Tour B JGR HF2 Modus3 Tour 105 SW: RTX Zipcore Black Satin 54* LW: TAIII Black 58* Putter: Scottsdale TR Senita Bag: BigMax Dri Active Lite Ball: TP5x or AVX (yellow) Pushcart: BigMax iQ+ Testing Complete, Final Review Posted: Sub70 TAIII Forged Wedges Link to comment
Golfspy_CG2 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 18 hours ago, russtopherb said: Interesting thoughts Rob. Based on your own personal experiences, and your ranking, did your driver fitting(s) have the most impact on your own game? Definitely, I would say the times I've been fit for a driver, the immediate results had much more of an effect than the irons. I have only been fit for a putter once in my life, and that was two months ago at PING. But the putter I had been playing with for four years was pretty much a self fit. And it worked for me not only on the course, but even at the PING fitting, the fitter said i putted at a 2.1 handicap level. He kept me in the exact same style head but just the PING model and when tested afterward, i putted at a 2.5 level. I attribute the slight difference to just having a slightly different look at setup. But now that I've had it on course for several rounds, I haven't lost anything at all in performance and last week, may have had my best putting day ever. Didn't miss one putt inside 6 feet and made 3 or 4 in the 10 foot range. So all that said, I feel those are the two most important areas to be fit. GolfSpy_BNG and russtopherb 2 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment
Mr_Theoo Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I think most will see instant improvement in the driver because it’s the easier clubs to hit well. Especially when you gain confidence in the club. Quote Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment
StrokerAce Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 how about a wedge fitting? Wedge Fitting Ask any tour pro and they will tell you: Of all the clubs played before reaching the green, the wedges should be the most thoroughly thought about in relation to the character of your game. An adjustment in a few degrees of loft, different bounce characteristics, the number of wedges you carry and the spacing between the lofts, special grinds; these are all essential elements that get substantially magnified as you get within 125 yards of the pin. While the driver is your muscle, the wedges are your soft touches that are key to scoring. Speaking from experience (some of it recent) it really sucks to get close and drop a ton of strokes. People typically think of golf in 2 ways - either (1) from the hole back to the tee or (2) from the tee to the hole. Depending on how you think about it I'd start there. If (1) then putter/wedges/driver and if (2) then driver/wedges/putter I'd save irons to the end. Although it is critical to get the right shaft I think you save more strokes with the other 3 clubs. Mr_Theoo, GolfSpy_BNG and ncwoz 3 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment
HDTVMAN Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 I would rank club fitting: Putter-Irons/Wedges-Driver. Putting is half your game, and if you have the wrong putter (length, lie, loft, balance) you'll never improve your game. I like the SAM system, but I believe being fit on "real" grass is a must! Irons and wedges need to have the correct shaft in length and weight, plus the correct lie. Driver's need the right loft and shaft in length and weights. Plus, don't forget the correct grip size and a comfortable grip. Quote Certified Club Fitter. Ping G425 Max Driver 10.5° w/Fujikura Ventus TR Ping G425 Max 5-7-9 Fairway Woods w/Ping Alta CB Ping G425 Irons 5-U w/Ping Alta CB (Power-Spec Lofts) Ping 4.0 Eye2 Glide Wedges 54°-58° w/Recoil SmacWrap Ping Redwood ZB Putter w/PP58 PING Pioneer Cart Bag Lamkin Sonar+ Wrap Mid-Size Grips Link to comment
BJMDO Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I would agree with the notion on whatever you struggle with most. I will say that of the fittings I have done, the putter fitting had the most effect on my handicap. Quote Great Big Bertha 10.5 with Graphite Design AD-TP 6X Epic Flash 5 wood (-1) with Fujikura Pro 2.0 7X Epic 3 and 4 hybrid with Graphite Design AD-HY 85X MP 18 MMC 5-PW with KBS C-taper Lite X-flex, hard-stepped 1x 51, 56, 60 wedges Newport 2 ProV1x Link to comment
howellhandmade Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I would offer that the value of iron fitting increases as the golfer deviates from average build, to the point of being most important for someone like me at 6’4” with long legs. Quote Link to comment
bmaru99 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 22 hours ago, howellhandmade said: I would offer that the value of iron fitting increases as the golfer deviates from average build, to the point of being most important for someone like me at 6’4” with long legs. This is funny because I had the exact same problem as I am 6'5. I bought new irons last year without even thinking about standard length vs what I should have. The workers at Golf Galaxy looked at me like I was insane haha. Quote WITB 2019 Driver: Taylormade M2 8.5 w/ Xstiff Aldila RIP Beta shaft 2 Iron: Talormade P790 UDI 17 degree w/ Hazardus Xstiff driver shaft 4-PW: Taylormade PSI iron w/ KBS C-taper stiff iron shafts 52 degree: Cleveland RTX 3 56 degree: Callaway Mac Daddy 4 60 degree-:Taylormade milled grind Putter: Scotty Cameron Dual Balance X5 Ball:ProV1x Link to comment
howellhandmade Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 hours ago, bmaru99 said: This is funny because I had the exact same problem as I am 6'5. I bought new irons last year without even thinking about standard length vs what I should have. The workers at Golf Galaxy looked at me like I was insane haha. Fitting very tall golfers is its own topic and it’s no surprise that GG “workers” would have no idea what to do. But we especially suffer with the short irons and wedges, while drivers are already plenty long. For the very tall golfer, finding an iron/wedge length and lie that improves posture and matches lie to swing plane is low hanging fruit. There may be swing weight implications, and some manufacturers (Mizuno) are more accommodating than others. ncwoz and bmaru99 2 Quote Link to comment
ncwoz Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 Here's a follow up question: what kind of "services" or capabilities should you be looking for in a fitting (putter, irons, driver)? I know some of the big box stores around here offer fittings, but for example, the putter fitting looks like you just pick a putter that suits your eye and they make sure to get you the correct length; not necessarily fitting you to a putter head that complements your stroke. Quote Right Handed Driver: 9° Speedzone (HZRDUS Smoke Green 70g X-Stiff shaft) 2 Hybrid: 18° Exotics EXS Pro (Evenflow Black 6.5) (2020 MGS Official Review here) 3/Driving Iron: 18° UiHi Iron (MMT Utility TX 105g shaft) Irons: 4-GW T100 irons (Nippon Modus 120 X-Stiff shafts) (2021 MGS Official Review here) Wedges: 54° & 58° TSW Forged (Dynamic Gold S300) Putter: ER2B (2019 MGS Official Review here) Ball: MAXFLI Tour X Bag: Hoofer Lite WITB thread here Link to comment
yungkory Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 hours ago, ncwoz said: Here's a follow up question: what kind of "services" or capabilities should you be looking for in a fitting (putter, irons, driver)? I know some of the big box stores around here offer fittings, but for example, the putter fitting looks like you just pick a putter that suits your eye and they make sure to get you the correct length; not necessarily fitting you to a putter head that complements your stroke. I have a certain personality where before I get "into" something, I do extensive research -- I think that's what brought most of us to the forums. You could call me a well-informed consumer I guess. I do decent financially, but also live in one of the most expensive states and don't take money for granted, so I try to employ my dollars as best as I can. A great fitter should be able to articulate to me what they see in the numbers, and what they'd like the outcome to be post-fit. It's a fine line because I don't want to be a number chaser and be a great "Trackman" or "Quad" golfer, I want it to translate to the course. So I guess my ideal fit would be someone who can leverage the LM as a tool, but not rely on it entirely, if that makes sense? If not, at least lie to me and make me think you know wtf you're talking about. Fake it till you make it ncwoz 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment
golfertrb Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 This is an interesting and important topic. Greens in regulation has the most direct impact on handicap. You must hit greens in order to score well. That said, if you can't find a fairway, you can't find the green unless you are Seve. You hit driver a maximum of 14 times per round but irons (if you include wedges) on every hole. The same is true (use on every hole) with putter. Don't get me wrong - driver is critical and I know the correlation between driving the ball well and iron play. As others have said, start where you struggle but I would personally rank them: putter, irons/wedges, driver.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Ping G400 LST 8.5* Graphite Design DI 6 stiff 45" Taylormade RBZ Proto 14.5* Oban Kiyoshi 85 04 42.5" Adams 4555 19* Matrix Ozik Altus 80 S/X 42" Ping G410 Crossover 2 Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0 40" Ping i500 4-8 Modus 105 Stiff Ping Blueprint 9-P Modus 105 Stiff Fourteen RM-12 53* and 58* Tour Issue Black Onyx s400 Odyssey Tour Black Series 9 35" Flatso 1.0 Srixon Z Star XV 2018 Ping Hoofer Link to comment
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