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This is a thread for those who are interested in reading or sharing golf ball comparisons! 

Personally, I am in the stage of personal ball testing to try to find my next gamer for the next season or two. As such, I have been and am in the process of testing a variety of premium golf balls to see which fits my game and personal preferences. My posts in this site will be coming from off my new website (linked here for those who might want to check it out: https://griffinc6.wixsite.com/golfreviews) and will be in the form of a head to head matchup between two of the balls I am considering. During my tests, I will be taking two different models to the course and playing 9 holes with each in the same round, same day, and same conditions. In my posts, there won't be much in the way of technical data other than distance (measured via Shot Scope) but will rather be how I experienced the balls in terms of distance, spin, flight characteristics, performance and fell around the green, putting, quality, durability, and consistency. Once again, for my posts here, these are by no means a scientific test, but rather what I prefer, what I see, and how the balls perform for me. Therefore whatever performs for me might not translate to your game or your experiences with these products. I also invite everyone to post your own comparisons, head-to-heads, and reviews here as well!

Now that that is out of the way, let the discussion begin!

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Golf Ball H2H #1: TP5x vs. ProV1x

 

To start off this series, I picked a battle of two giants! The Titleist ProV1x has long been recognized as the definitive "best ball in golf," however with the somewhat recent news of PGA Tour star Rickie Fowler making the shocking switch from the ProV1x to the Taylormade TP5x, there has been a spark in discussion on how good the TP5 really is. So what better way to begin? Let's jump into the test!

 

Most Noticeable Differences:

  • ProV1x seemed noticeably better into wind.

  • TP5x definitely feels softer, but not too soft.

 

Other Notes:

 
  • As far as distance is concerned, TP5x definitely seemed longer on a number of shots (especially those less effected by the wind). I overshot a few greens with the TP5x and thought it might be club choice, however after testing other balls from the same spots, the TP5x was just longer. Also I had some monster drives with the TP5x.

  • Around the green, in terms of approach shots and chipping, there really wasn't much difference when it came to the way the balls performed. I did seem to like the TP5x just a hair more. I seemed to hold the greens on a few shots I thought would roll off and I really liked the ball characteristics when chipping (almost had a few go in), but all that could just be attributed to better ball-striking (it was the 2nd 9) or personal preference/feel. I would guess they perform similarly in this category going off just data alone.

  • On the greens, they both performed very similarly off the putter and I really couldn't tell a difference between the two. Both felt great! The TP5x might have just a touch softer feel (as aforementioned), but I really couldn't tell off the putter. Overall I think I sunk more putts with the TP5x, but again that's probably not the ball.

  • Durability was definitely a tie! I was surprised to see a huge scuff mark on the ProV1x after about 8 holes of use, but it could have very well just been a freak thing. The TP5x help up surprisingly well (even after a direct hit off a tree that bounced back into the fairway) considering all the reviews and things I've read about it's durability issues. I had no problems at all with the TP5x in terms of durability!

 

Overall:

 

Both balls performed extremely well and there really wasn't a whole lot of stark contrasts between the two in this matchup. The ProV1x, as expected, was a super consistent ball that was playing well into the wind and had no real weakness to speak to. The TP5x actually surprised me in a lot of ways (as I have never played or tried a Taylormade ball before) with the only downside being what I saw of it struggling a little bit with the wind. Now on to which one I would choose between the two. Surprisingly, I would have to go with the TP5x! Like I've said, it does seem to struggle with the wind on occasion for me, however considering the distance gains, added feel around the green (for me), and the fact that they run around $5-10 less a dozen than the ProV1x, this ball is too good to ignore. The ProV1x is obviously still an excellent ball with top tier quality control, consistency, and performance. For me though, I believe, based on my personal experience with these two balls and the results from this first test, that my game would benefit more from what the TP5x has to offer.

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7 minutes ago, PlaidJacket said:

You might also enjoy this...

https://mygolfspy.com/most-wanted-golf-ball/

 

Dude I'm not sure there's a single serious golfer on this site who's hasn't seen that test! But thanks anyways and maybe there will be some who come to this thread that may not have seen it yet. I did however use that test as a reference for the balls I will be considering in this post. Thanks!

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I think you might get more interest, at least from my perspective, if you compared some of the big boys with the DTC (direct-to-consumer) brands like, Snell, Vice, Oncore, Pearl, Cut, etc.  

 

In my own comparisons, I really like the feel of the Oncore Elixir, but found that I lose distance with it compared to the Bridgestone Tour B RX.  However, the Snell MTB-Black and Vice Pro are very similar to the RX and quite a bit cheaper.  Currently, I'm still playing the RX, but will do more comparisons with the Vice Pro and Snell Black before finalizing my choice as my gamer.

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1 hour ago, jjfcpa said:

I think you might get more interest, at least from my perspective, if you compared some of the big boys with the DTC (direct-to-consumer) brands like, Snell, Vice, Oncore, Pearl, Cut, etc.  

 

In my own comparisons, I really like the feel of the Oncore Elixir, but found that I lose distance with it compared to the Bridgestone Tour B RX.  However, the Snell MTB-Black and Vice Pro are very similar to the RX and quite a bit cheaper.  Currently, I'm still playing the RX, but will do more comparisons with the Vice Pro and Snell Black before finalizing my choice as my gamer.

Yeah, I've looked around at some of the DTC brands and the only one I'm really thinking of considering is Snell (MTB-X model). I think it's the only one that really comes close to matching the quality, consistency, and performance of a trusted/proven brand like a Titleist, Taylormade, or Bridgestone.

But if someone wants to put some of their tests with the DTC models here, that is more than welcome and I'm definitely interested

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I read posts on testing golf balls and I have a question. Someone will post something like. “ I want to test ‘X’ ball”, and then say I bought 2-3 dozen to test. Why do people need 2 or 3 dozen balls to test them? I can usually tell with 1 or 2 balls after about 1 or 2 holes whether or not I like the golf ball. 

So I guess the question is why do you need so many dozen balls just to test when usually a sleeve or 2 will do the job?

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1 hour ago, Kor.A.Door said:

I read posts on testing golf balls and I have a question. Someone will post something like. “ I want to test ‘X’ ball”, and then say I bought 2-3 dozen to test. Why do people need 2 or 3 dozen balls to test them? I can usually tell with 1 or 2 balls after about 1 or 2 holes whether or not I like the golf ball. 

So I guess the question is why do you need so many dozen balls just to test when usually a sleeve or 2 will do the job?

I totally agree with you. For all of the balls that I'm testing, I bought a dozen of each model, all on sale. I would've only bought a sleeve, but my club marks up the sleeves to a ridiculous price and I can't justify paying $12-13 for 3 balls. But at least this way with the dozen, I can give each a fair shake, in case I just might not have been hitting well or whatever on the round I initially test them.

Good question though! I never understand why you would buy 3 dozen of a ball you've never played before. 

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2 hours ago, cynogriffin said:

I totally agree with you. For all of the balls that I'm testing, I bought a dozen of each model, all on sale. I would've only bought a sleeve, but my club marks up the sleeves to a ridiculous price and I can't justify paying $12-13 for 3 balls. But at least this way with the dozen, I can give each a fair shake, in case I just might not have been hitting well or whatever on the round I initially test them.

Good question though! I never understand why you would buy 3 dozen of a ball you've never played before. 

I understand having to buy a dozen/ buying a dozen for testing, it’s the 2 or 3 dozen for testing that I question. What if you don’t like them. 

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I’ll tell you what - I played two holes with the Snell MTBx and came away impressed -birdie par. Hit both drives around 245 in opposite directions which is nice for me. The 100 yard wedge shot on the second hike stopped about right - landed pin high and left an 8 footer that I lipped out.

It felt good off the putter. I didn’t get to try green side spin. I normally play the Pro VI x which is a known gif not the king of green side spin.

My gamer in optic would still get the nod but at $28 per I’consider switching next season if Snell makes an optic color.


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5 hours ago, Kor.A.Door said:

I understand having to buy a dozen/ buying a dozen for testing, it’s the 2 or 3 dozen for testing that I question. What if you don’t like them. 

I'm not automatic enough to tell if a ball performed worse after a couple of shots. Sometimes I might catch it a little thin, or heavy, so I like to test balls over a long period of time. I can tell when a ball is absolutely garbage (for me) right away, but not whether or not I like it -- I need to test it for longer. If I don't like them, I'll sell them

2 hours ago, revkev said:

I’ll tell you what - I played two holes with the Snell MTBx and came away impressed -birdie par. Hit both drives around 245 in opposite directions which is nice for me. The 100 yard wedge shot on the second hike stopped about right - landed pin high and left an 8 footer that I lipped out.

It felt good off the putter. I didn’t get to try green side spin. I normally play the Pro VI x which is a known gif not the king of green side spin.

My gamer in optic would still get the nod but at $28 per I’consider switching next season if Snell makes an optic color.


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I think the PV1x spins more around the greens than the MTB-X but otherwise they're pretty close in terms of performance for me. I haven't tried the '19 V1x yet, but having the option to play either of these two balls in yellow is nice.

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8 hours ago, revkev said:

My gamer in optic would still get the nod but at $28 per I’consider switching next season if Snell makes an optic color.

Do you mean Optic yellow? The MTB-X is available in Optic yellow.

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I just tested the TP5X against the Tour BX. Played 9 holes with each and it was clear to me the Tour BX was heads and shoulders above the TP5X. Here is why.

The Tour BX felt a lot better to me off the driver. It feels explosive which inspires confidence in me. It flies very straight. I do not hit the ball perfectly every time, but this ball was longer than the TP5X on every hole.  Both balls were fine near the green and off the putter. No real differences there.

from 165 and in to 100yds, the BX was once again noticeably longer. Its just different.  The TP5X was fine, but it was not "exciting" and did not present anything different than any other premium ball ive used.  The TP5X was "just another ball"

when I try something new, I hope to get a new experience. I got that with the Tour BX. Its not 50 yards longer or anything crazy but I was easily 10 yards longer. I measured an average of 8 yards on 6 holes with the longest being 17 yards. that's a game changer for me off the driver. If I can get one club closer on approaches, I'm good.

On iron shots under 100 yards, it played about the same as the TP5X. For me, the biggest benefit was off the driver and longer irons. 8 iron and under its pretty much the same as any other premium ball.

I even played the BXS the next day and it flies long as well, but its a more muted, softer feel(sound). I liked the BXS feel off the putter better, so either ball will work for you if you seek the same things I do.

 

hope this helps someone

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Golf Ball H2H #2: Srixon Z-Star vs. Z-Star XV

Srixon is definitely a dark horse and generally underrated in terms of their premium golf ball offerings. As such, I was very excited for this test between the Z-Star and the Z-Star XV. Having never played a premium Srixon ball before, both of these balls were totally new to me. Let's see what they have to offer!

 

Most Noticeable Differences:

  • XV did seem to go a few yards longer on well-struck shots from the tee

  • XV was a hair firmer on drives and putts

  • Standard Z-Star did produce more spin into and around the greens

Other Notes:

  • As aforementioned, on well-struck shots, the Z-Star XV did seem to have a slight advantage in terms of distance, most notable on the driver with a good amount of roll-out. That being said, I was hitting the standard Z-Star extremely well so it was hard to see too much of an immediate difference between the distance of the two, and therefore I didn't feel like I was giving anything up by playing the Z-Star.

  • When it comes to the ball flight, I actually think the standard Z-Star had a higher flight. Once again, this could just be due to the fact that I was hitting better shots with the Z-Star, but it was consistent throughout the 9 holes I played it and even compared to the good shots hit with the XV.

  • On approach shots, the standard Z-Star definitely had more spin and consistently stopped on the pitch mark or even rolled back some. Perhaps the most noticeable difference between the two models was how they performed around the green in terms of chipping. The XV rolled out more on every shot compared to the Z-Star that produced more of a "bite" on the chips with it. Also the XV was a touch firmer on putts (which I actually preferred), however both of these were really soft balls.

  • As far as quality is concerned, both of these balls are top-notch. They have perhaps the best durability of any of the balls I have tested so far. After 9 holes with each, they both legitimately still looked brand new. This definitely surprised me because I have played a couple of Srixon Soft Feel balls where the outer coating on each one starts to flake off after just a few holes. But both of the Z-Star models were impressive and exceptional in this regard. Both are definitely a high-quality product to be compared with industry leaders like Titleist. Also bonus points for the color of these balls. They are a really bright white which helps finding them and distinguishing them from others on the course. The bright color also had the effect for me of making these balls appear slightly larger than others (I compared them to a Titleist ProV1x). And extra bonus points for being available in yellow as well!

Overall:

 

To be honest, I am totally impressed with both of these offerings from Srixon. If you're looking for a new ball that is tour quality and cheaper than the competition, you definitely need to have these on your list to try. As far as my personal testing of these go, I wasn't playing all that great when I tested these, so I might have to revisit this test, but I did get to know these balls and was able to get some good results of their performance for my game. I think if you're a soft ball person, you could play either of these. If you are coming off of the Chrome Soft (maybe as a result of the MGS testing) and looking for a really soft ball that still performs exceptionally (as in won't rob you of 10 yards on every shot), then the standard Z-Star is for you. The bottom line here, though, is that the XV goes a hair farther for me, but does sacrifice some performance around the green, so it comes down to what you're looking for or what you're game needs. For me, out of the two, I have to go with the standard Z-Star! I was hitting this ball lights out when I tested it and I loved the performance on my approach shots (I hit 3 more GIR with this model compared to the XV). It gave me the distance I wanted coupled with the control I needed.

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3 minutes ago, cynogriffin said:

Golf Ball H2H #2: Srixon Z-Star vs. Z-Star XV

Srixon is definitely a dark horse and generally underrated in terms of their premium golf ball offerings. As such, I was very excited for this test between the Z-Star and the Z-Star XV. Having never played a premium Srixon ball before, both of these balls were totally new to me. Let's see what they have to offer!

 

Most Noticeable Differences:

  • XV did seem to go a few yards longer on well-struck shots from the tee

  • XV was a hair firmer on drives and putts

  • Standard Z-Star did produce more spin into and around the greens

Other Notes:

  • As aforementioned, on well-struck shots, the Z-Star XV did seem to have a slight advantage in terms of distance, most notable on the driver with a good amount of roll-out. That being said, I was hitting the standard Z-Star extremely well so it was hard to see too much of an immediate difference between the distance of the two, and therefore I didn't feel like I was giving anything up by playing the Z-Star.

  • When it comes to the ball flight, I actually think the standard Z-Star had a higher flight. Once again, this could just be due to the fact that I was hitting better shots with the Z-Star, but it was consistent throughout the 9 holes I played it and even compared to the good shots hit with the XV.

  • On approach shots, the standard Z-Star definitely had more spin and consistently stopped on the pitch mark or even rolled back some. Perhaps the most noticeable difference between the two models was how they performed around the green in terms of chipping. The XV rolled out more on every shot compared to the Z-Star that produced more of a "bite" on the chips with it. Also the XV was a touch firmer on putts (which I actually preferred), however both of these were really soft balls.

  • As far as quality is concerned, both of these balls are top-notch. They have perhaps the best durability of any of the balls I have tested so far. After 9 holes with each, they both legitimately still looked brand new. This definitely surprised me because I have played a couple of Srixon Soft Feel balls where the outer coating on each one starts to flake off after just a few holes. But both of the Z-Star models were impressive and exceptional in this regard. Both are definitely a high-quality product to be compared with industry leaders like Titleist. Also bonus points for the color of these balls. They are a really bright white which helps finding them and distinguishing them from others on the course. The bright color also had the effect for me of making these balls appear slightly larger than others (I compared them to a Titleist ProV1x). And extra bonus points for being available in yellow as well!

Overall:

 

To be honest, I am totally impressed with both of these offerings from Srixon. If you're looking for a new ball that is tour quality and cheaper than the competition, you definitely need to have these on your list to try. As far as my personal testing of these go, I wasn't playing all that great when I tested these, so I might have to revisit this test, but I did get to know these balls and was able to get some good results of their performance for my game. I think if you're a soft ball person, you could play either of these. If you are coming off of the Chrome Soft (maybe as a result of the MGS testing) and looking for a really soft ball that still performs exceptionally (as in won't rob you of 10 yards on every shot), then the standard Z-Star is for you. The bottom line here, though, is that the XV goes a hair farther for me, but does sacrifice some performance around the green, so it comes down to what you're looking for or what you're game needs. For me, out of the two, I have to go with the standard Z-Star! I was hitting this ball lights out when I tested it and I loved the performance on my approach shots (I hit 3 more GIR with this model compared to the XV). It gave me the distance I wanted coupled with the control I needed.

I liked the Z star standard when I tried it for 4.5 holes a few days ago (lost in trees). But I heard they are discontinuing the Z star, maybe explains the BOGOF deal just now.

Is there a new Z star coming I wonder?

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20 hours ago, revkev said:

I’ll tell you what - I played two holes with the Snell MTBx and came away impressed -birdie par. Hit both drives around 245 in opposite directions which is nice for me. The 100 yard wedge shot on the second hike stopped about right - landed pin high and left an 8 footer that I lipped out.

It felt good off the putter. I didn’t get to try green side spin. I normally play the Pro VI x which is a known gif not the king of green side spin.

My gamer in optic would still get the nod but at $28 per I’consider switching next season if Snell makes an optic color.


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Rev. They make both the MTB black and X in optic yellow

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18 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said:

I liked the Z star standard when I tried it for 4.5 holes a few days ago (lost in trees). But I heard they are discontinuing the Z star, maybe explains the BOGOF deal just now.

Is there a new Z star coming I wonder?

They just released an updated version of both this year.  I'd say the BOGO offer is to simply get their name out there a bit more.  I've been an XV player for the past 2 seasons, but won a dozen ZStars from a scramble tournament last month.  Figured I'd put them in play.  I will say, I know what the data said in the MGS test and real world playing has confirmed it.  The ZStar is a few, if any, yards shorter off the tee, but much straighter flight.  I just ordered 4 dozen with the BOGO deal so I'm seriously hoping what you heard is a rumor and not fact because the ZStar is knocking the XV out of my bag.

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Thanks for letting me know on the optic yellow with the Snell ball.

 

I always buy 4 dozen balls for the season either in December or February. I didn’t get this years order until March so I still have over three dozen.

 

I will try the Snell ball in earnest after my competitive season ends - late October. I did not get to hit pitch shots around the green with the MTB. From what I’m reading that’s a difference between it and the Pro VIx - my club and one of my league courses have extremely firm greens - you need every bit of spin you can get to control those chips.

 

Even though all that we’ve seen here just confirms what the MGS test results said it still a nice thread - thanks for starting it.

 

 

 

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Just a quick update on the ball testing: I'm really digging the TP5x at the moment. Drove a green with it (actually over the green as it was on the back fringe) on a 300+ par 4 (scorecard said it was 359 yards, but I think it was playing a little shorter that day with the wind helping a bit). I'm loving it off the driver and haven't had any complaints with it around the greens yet, so it's definitely proving to be a strong competitor in my tests so far! I'm curious to see if anything can beat it out as I test some of the Srixons further. I'm continuing to test a bit with the ProV1(x) and they're definitely good balls, but for me and my game I'm seeing similar or better performance from other, cheaper options (well pretty much everything is cheaper right?). I'm just not seeing a dramatic improvement in my game or the consistency or quality of the ball with the Titleist to justify the cost. I'll probably also be throwing in the Bridgestone Tour BXS in this test just to give it a try and possibly the standard TP5 as well as giving the Maxfli Tour balls a try. I want to make sure to give everything I can a decent test before I clean out the bag and settle on one as the definitive gamer for the next couple years. The next head to head review is on it's way!

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On ‎6‎/‎12‎/‎2019 at 12:41 PM, cynogriffin said:

Just a quick update on the ball testing: I'm really digging the TP5x at the moment. Drove a green with it (actually over the green as it was on the back fringe) on a 300+ par 4 (scorecard said it was 359 yards, but I think it was playing a little shorter that day with the wind helping a bit). I'm loving it off the driver and haven't had any complaints with it around the greens yet, so it's definitely proving to be a strong competitor in my tests so far! I'm curious to see if anything can beat it out as I test some of the Srixons further. I'm continuing to test a bit with the ProV1(x) and they're definitely good balls, but for me and my game I'm seeing similar or better performance from other, cheaper options (well pretty much everything is cheaper right?). I'm just not seeing a dramatic improvement in my game or the consistency or quality of the ball with the Titleist to justify the cost. I'll probably also be throwing in the Bridgestone Tour BXS in this test just to give it a try and possibly the standard TP5 as well as giving the Maxfli Tour balls a try. I want to make sure to give everything I can a decent test before I clean out the bag and settle on one as the definitive gamer for the next couple years. The next head to head review is on it's way!

You are a 10 HDCP and hit it 300 over the green?  even the robotic test couldn't hit it that far with 115 mph swing......that's crazy.....try the Tour BX if you can. To me, its definitely more explosive than the TP5X which I do not like. The TP5 is much better for me, but right now its the BX and BXS which are in my bag. Both are great

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      Sorry these are the only photos I have at address and it's the PW. But aren't the center strike ball marks BEAUTIFUL?

       
      Sound & Feel 10 out of 10
      These feel absolutely smoother than any golf club I have ever hit. Forged or cast, this is due to hollow body design with their proprietary COR2 polymer. When hit they leave no doubt that the ball is going for a long ride. They are very very soft with a spring like sensation off center faced strikes. It has a very nice strong and clean mid pitch at impact, that gives immediate feedback for mishits, which are hard to do with their sweet spot.
       
      Performance 10 out of 10
      Having been fitted by a PXG fitter I had high expectations for what theses should produce, these expectations were met and surpassed in all categories. 
      Borrowed this from another site so I'm quoting "The 0211 features the same face material (HT1770 maraging steel) as the 0311 GEN2, which works in conjunction with PXG’s more responsive second generation COR2 polymer material – the goo filling that allows for the thinnest iron face on the market – to preserve ball speed across the whole of the face.
      Like the 0311 GEN2, it offers an internal face perimeter cut-out. It’s a design which leverages an undercut cavity and moves the weld lines between the two pieces to the outer perimeter of the club (as opposed to on the face itself). It’s a forgiveness-boosting feature that makes for an effectively larger face without increasing the size of the clubhead."
      The forgiveness and the wider soles is where the clubs really shine and help make thin misses playable and not penalize the player as bad as some other irons would.
      I have found the spin in the short to mid irons to be sufficient enough to hold greens, and not send the ball rolling off once they land, and the wedges paired with a good quality ball makes it easy to zip the ball back something I haven't been able to do in a long time.
      Where the progressive design helps me most is in the 5 iron, with the extra offset, I can launch the ball easier than my old 5 iron and not worry about it going anywhere but straight. 
      I have gained 10-12 yards of carry over my old Mizuno's. This could be impart to being slightly stronger lofted clubs as well, but I feel it has more to do with newer technology and a faster face. PXG also claims these have "the thinnest face in golf" and I haven't seen any other company argue this.

       
      Upgrades 5 out of 10
      I give the upgrades a 5 because they don't offer many shaft options comparatively to competitors (they have the same number of brands but the shaft models are more limited than other brands), and the upgrade price on shafts is on par with other manufacturers. I do feel the shaft offerings fit a large variety of golfers, and my fitter had me dialed into my shaft within about 20 minutes, then went through every club to ensure that it would suit me through every iron.
      The biggest drop in score here is there are no additional grips that can be upgraded to. The only option is the Lamkin Z5 which I gave a try, and hated after 1 round due to not being tacky and soft enough but this is purely subjective on how you like your grips. I quickly replaced them with my preferred Winn Dri-Tacs. 
      Quite shocking since PXG is known to be all custom built, the 0211s have what amounts to a true stock shaft offering for the first time. True Temper’s new Elevate is the steel offering. The standard Elevate is a 95g offering (available in R and S flex), and the Elevate Tour 115g (available in S and X flexes). I was fitted with the Elevate Tour through all my irons.
      Both Elevate shafts feature VSS (Vibration Suppression System) technology. A fresh take on the Sensicore principle, VSS reduces unwanted vibrations by 71% in the standard Elevate, while VSS PRO reduces unwanted vibrations by 56% in the Elevate Tour.
      The graphite offering is the just-released MMT from Mitsubishi.
      Fitters and buyers will still have access to PXG’s full shaft matrix, but there is a per club upcharge of $25 (both steel and graphite) to move out of the stock offerings.

      Stock Grips

       
      Miscellaneous 10 out of 10
      First and foremost the customer service is OUTSTANDING, they keep you informed through the whole process all you have to do is call and ask. You can call 844-PLAY-PXG and they will set you up with a fitter at no expense to you. They sent my fitter from 2 hours away and spent 3 hours with me. There was absolutely no pressure from his end either for me to make a purchase. 
      They have a 30 day playability guarantee and a 1 year manufacturer's warranty on defects.
      Also, the boxes these come in are the nicest, sturdiest, best looking boxes I have ever seen golf clubs come in.
      Sorry the photo isn't the best, I was excited to get the boxes open and check the clubs out so I just snapped a quick photo.

       
      Price 7/10 out of 10
      My reasoning for the 7/10 out of 10 is if you're an Active duty member, Veteran, or First Responder and can be verified through ID.ME on their website the price is 10/10, you can snag these for the same price if not less than any other major brand out there. I paid $105 an iron for mine, but they have raised the price to $125 an iron for steel or graphite. Also, if you buy six of them you receive a free Gen 1 driver of your choice, and are offered a Gen 1 putter of your choice for $95, which I took advantage of both offerings opting for the 0811XF and Mustang putter. 
      If you do not fall into these categories they will run you $195 an iron for steel offering, and $210 for graphite and this is the reasoning for a 7/10.
      Shipping costs $30 for a single iron, $60 for irons and woods , and $100 for a whole set. Also, it is a direct signature required VIA FedEx this guarantees they hit your hands and not stolen off your porch. If you're lucky enough to live in the area, you can also pick them up from their headquarters for free.
      Specs 

       
      Conclusion and Overall 10 out of 10
      I give the clubs a 10 out of 10 overall because they are absolutely one of the best clubs I have ever gamed, demoed, swung. Now I know this is very subjective as well, and what works for me won't work for the masses. I would not think twice if asked if I recommend these clubs, because I would a million times over. PXG’s goal with the 0211 irons was to bring the performance and feel of their 0311 irons to golfers at a lower price.  They blew this goal out of the water.
      The progressive set is designed extremely well to fit the vast majority of golfers, although it doesn't offer the flexibility of the different 0311 models. If price has been scaring you away from PXG irons, call and get fitted because these are budget friendly comparative to their other models, and even more so for military, veterans and first responders.
       
      Please let me know what you think of my first review, and it's okay to be brutally critical I can handle it I'm a big boy.
      Thanks for reading,
      Matt
       
       
       
    • By ncwoz
      All this talk of the MGS Hard Rock Challenge and the ball test recently has me thinking about the hardware...
      I know I *should* be gaming one model, and probably one I'm fit for at that. But the cheapskate in me just can't pass up on a free wayward ball, looking for a home. Nor can I bring myself to just toss the 24 pack of two piecers I walked away from Christmas with.
      So my question is this - what do you do with the random balls you might come across one way or another? Do you keep em all? Hit them into the woods? Do you have a threshold of quality that determines if it's a keeper or a leaver?
    • By ChasingScratch
      Ping Sigma 2 Tyne 4 – Review
      A little background
      Let’s just start with this:  I am not a stellar putter.  I’m not even an average putter.  I’ve been known to be the ‘take a 6 footer for birdie and turn it into a 7 footer for par’ kind of putter.  I’d like to think part of it is due to the wide variation in greens I get to play on (anything from Plinko on the Price is Right to lightning fast U.S. Open greens), but the reality is I just haven’t been that good.  I’m a dad with limited income to spend on golf and little practice time.
      I started this journey to become a Scratch golfer about two years ago.  Since then, I won a free full bag fitting through Club Champion and had a blast doing it.  My favorite part of the whole experience was the SAM PuttLab fitting.  According to the PuttLab, I’m a consistent slight puller of the putter.  My wonderful human of a fitter recommended mallet style with some toe hang.  He laid out a bunch of putters that fit this mold and I immediately started arching the putter rather than pulling it.  I had never really seen that arch path before and I thought I was going to push every putt 3 feet right of the hole.  Needless to say, I made 25 straight 8 foot putts before we re-tested with my favorite putter of the bunch (the Ping Sigma 2 Tyne 4, which also happened to be the cheapest, go figure).
      The thing that was instantly attractive about this putter was the fact that it could be adjusted for length.  I’m 5’8”, take an athletic posture with my putter, and have long arms.  Long story short, I need a short putter, but everything you can buy off the rack comes between 33-35” (or so it seems).  We cranked it down to 32.5” and bent the loft to 1 degree.  Oh……….my…………GAWD!!!  I’m in love, I’m in love, and I don’t care who knows it!!!
      Eye Candy (aka Looks)
      First off the looks.  This think is a beauty! 

      I love the tynes off the back, makes me think of a fighter jet’s wings.  Who doesn’t love fighter jets?!?  As an added bonus, they are very useful when picking the ball up after you just lagged that 40 footer to inside of 1 foot! 

      Grip
      The stock pistol grip is phenomenal as well.  It really helps me to get my thumbs on top of the grip and parallel to each other. 

      Insert:
      People seem to either love or hate insert putters.  I get it, there is soft and then there is too soft.  Not many people want to feel like they are hitting the golf ball with a marshmallow attached to a shaft.  The dual insert on the Ping Sigma 2 putter line is perfect for me.  Soft enough to feel good at impact, but not soft enough to make you question if you hit it hard enough.

       
      Overall:
      I absolutely enjoy putting practice now!  Get this, you ready for it?  I’ve taken nothing but my putter to the golf course and spent over 1hr putting with my kids!?!  Crazy right? Who does that???  Not a single driver, iron, or wedge hit.  Pure putting. That’s how much I love this putter and how much confidence it gives me.
      I’ve only had two rounds with it, but I’ve had 30 and 31 putts with it so far.  Both of those rounds had at least 3 putts that either lipped out or stopped within 1” of the hole.  Only one 3-putt (and that was on a 60 foot putt, all of my playing partners 3-putted that horrible green lol).  From 5-8 feet, I feel like it is going in all the time.
      Had I the foresight to know that I would be joining MGS, I would have taken stats with my previous putters (yeah, I’m the guy who had like 7 putters all on the bench ready to get in the game whenever the starter started 3-putting) and run an ANOVA on putting metrics to see if this new putter is significantly better or if it is all in my head.  I have since sold those putters and am on the road to a single putter relationship.  You have to give this putter a try if you like the looks of a mallet style fang putter.  It also scored well this year and the previous model as well last year in the MSG putter tests.
      Give this thing a look!!!!  I think I’m going to go roll some putts on my carpet!!!
    • By Green Sheep Productions
      Hey all, 
      Anyone bought one of Vice's stand bags? The barrel of my bag is about to die, have been eyeing these off... But I hate buying something I haven't seen in the flesh (?) before. My favourite bag was from a gone bust company called Lind Golf, but can't find a bag with as many features. 
      Unfortunately not heaps of pictures of the Vice bag that aren't dolled up and taken from a romantic angle. 
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