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I recently got fitted at a demo day for new irons and driver, but due to time restrictions, wasn't able to hit any hybrids. I'm wondering, do most people play hybrids with a shaft that is the hybrid/wood model of their driver or do you all play a differing version of your irons? For reference, my driver has a project x even flow black 6.5 75g shaft (114-116 CHS), and my irons have a C-taper X stiff (92-94 CHS). Looking for what others have had the most success with or thoughts.

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My hybrid is a TM Jet Speed. I play it like a 5 wood. It’s a graphite shaft at 41.75”, for comparison the M5 5 Wood is 42.25”.

I think the different brands have their own take on what a hybrid is/does.

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... Hybrids are one of the truly remarkable clubs because they can be assembled to play any way you want or need. Although I have the same shaft in both my hybrids, the Matrix Altus 85, I shortened my 21.5* Tour 4 Hy 1/2" to play more like a 4 iron replacement and lengthened my 18.5* 3 Hy 1/2" to play more like a 5 wood replacement. 85gms is a nice tweener shaft that is heavy for a wood and lighter for an iron giving me the best of both worlds. I never considered matching my driver shaft as these are really 2 completely different clubs. 

... Many OEMs also make 2 different heads or one head that is designed to be hit down and thru like an iron or swept like a wood. So figuring out how you hit a hybrid is the first step to finding out what kind of shaft would work best for your swing. 

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Driver:   TaylorMade SIM2 Max 10.5* ... Diamana Ltd 60R
Fairway:  TaylorMade SIM2 Max 15* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R
                 TaylorMade SIM2 Max 18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R
Utility:   TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Ltd 65R
              Taylor Made Sim Hybrid 22* ... Diamana Ltd 75R
Irons:    4-Pw Cobra King Tour MIM ... Steelfiber 95R
Wedges:  Cobra Snakebite 50* ... Steelfiber 95R
                 Vokey SM8 58* ... Steelfiber 95R
Putter:  Cleveland Hunting Beach Soft 11S 33.5"
Ball:      TaylorMade TP5x (2021)

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... Hybrids are one of the truly remarkable clubs because they can be assembled to play any way you want or need. Although I have the same shaft in both my hybrids, the Matrix Altus 85, I shortened my 21.5* Tour 4 Hy 1/2" to play more like a 4 iron replacement and lengthened my 18.5* 3 Hy to play more like a 5 wood replacement. 85gms is a nice tweener shaft that is heavy for a wood and lighter fr an iron giving me the best if both worlds. I never considered matching my driver shaft as these are really 2 completely different clubs. 

... Many OEMs also make 2 different heads or one head that is designed to be hit down and thru like an iron or swept like a wood. So figuring out how you hit a hybrid is the first step to finding out what kind of shaft would work best for your swing. 


Fully agree which is no surprise because it’s factual and this guy knows his facts.

The rule used to be to hit a hybrid like an iron but as they’ve evolved they have morphed into two types. The hybrids that I currently game are more “fairway metal” like - once I realized that I started to hit them much better. My last hybrids were far more iron like.

All of that stuff is about to change for me when I get my Ping gear for the long game fitting test.

Be sure to check that thread out once we get going because it speaks to this topic in a big way.


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Taylor Made Sim2  10.5 (Opened 1 click) Ventus Blue 5  R flex

Ping G410 5-9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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1 hour ago, PSULions11 said:

I recently got fitted at a demo day for new irons and driver, but due to time restrictions, wasn't able to hit any hybrids. I'm wondering, do most people play hybrids with a shaft that is the hybrid/wood model of their driver or do you all play a differing version of your irons? For reference, my driver has a project x even flow black 6.5 75g shaft (114-116 CHS), and my irons have a C-taper X stiff (92-94 CHS). Looking for what others have had the most success with or thoughts.

Hybrids were previously known by many as utility or rescue clubs. They were specialty clubs meant to help golfers escape from trouble where the head of a fairway wood would struggle to slice through thick rough and irons (at the time) weren't providing enough ball speed to advance the ball a safe distance. 

Since then hybrids have evolved into long-iron replacement clubs. Designs vary, but that is the general consensus among the industry as to how hybrids should be utilized. As to whether or not you should match the shaft of your driver and fairway wood(s) or that of your irons, it really just comes down to what works best - and it could be a different shaft altogether.. Most players are likely playing 80g or lighter graphite shaft in their hybrids, but there are always exceptions and a good fitting will be beneficial in helping you make this decision.

Driver: Mizuno ST190 9.5* Aldila RIP Alpha 60 S
Fairway Wood: Mizuno ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S
Hyrbrid: Mizuno CLK 19* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB
Irons: Bridgestone J40 CB (4-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100
Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 50*, 54*, & 58* Nippon Modus 3 105
Putter: Cleveland Huntington Beach SOFT Premier 4 34"
Ball: Snell MTB-X
Bag: 2017 Titleist Players 5 Stand Bag

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Like woods and irons the shaft should be what works best for the individual in the club. Many times the shaft in the driver is different from the shaft in the wood and the hybrid. 

 

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Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4

Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white

Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid

Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120

Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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11 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Like woods and irons the shaft should be what works best for the individual in the club. Many times the shaft in the driver is different from the shaft in the wood and the hybrid. 

 

+1 My Hybrid shafts are what was fit for those clubs.

Woods: Callaway Rogue Sub Zero 9*, Fujikura Ventus Blue 6S / TM M5, 15*, Diamana Thump 75S / TM M5, 19*, Diamana Thump 75S
Hybrid: TEE C721 22*, KBS TGI 80S

Irons: TM M6, 5-GW, Accra 80i S
Wedges: Cleveland CBX 2, 55*, 60*, Accra 80i S
Putter: Evnroll ER1.2, 355g, KBS Tour One Step, 33", SS Mid-Slim 2.0
Ball: Maxfli Tour
Bag/Cart: '20 Nike Air Hybrid 2 / BagBoy Quad XL
Accessories: Arccos 360 / Sky Caddie SX 400 / Nikon Coolshot Pro Stabilized

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11 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Like woods and irons the shaft should be what works best for the individual in the club. Many times the shaft in the driver is different from the shaft in the wood and the hybrid. 

 

I'm going to +1 this one as well. Go with the shaft that works best for that particular head. 

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:callaway-small:  GBB 3W (lofted to 4W)
:callaway-small: V-Series Heavenwood
:cobra-small: Baffler XL 5i-PW
:cleveland-small: CBX 54*
:ping-small: iWedge 58*
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