Tomkgolf Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) I was previously playing with a taylormade R15 driver 10.5° for which I was hitting terrible 90% of the time(hooks, slices and short) . This was before I realised what shaft flex it was so when I checked the shaft I realised it was a L flex. I was able to trade it in for a stiff flex Titleist 915 D2 driver and this sorted my problems out. What flex shaft do you use? Do other shafts mess your tee shots up? Let me know Edited June 8, 2019 by Tomkgolf Rickp and PING Apologist #9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I have mostly S flex shafts but I do play a R in my fairway wood. I have a pretty smooth swing and am not to aggressive in transition so both work well for me. silver & black, MattF and perseveringgolfer 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 My SS is on the border of S and X, but I play S. MattF, PING Apologist #9 and bens197 3 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Irons have R flex KBS Tour graphite shafts. FW have R flex (stock shafts). Driver has a stiff flex from Paderson. Note that there is no standard on shaft flex, so it's difficult to sometimes compare just the flex from one brand to another. Also, there are other shaft characteristics within each range of shaft flex that will change the characteristics of your ball flight. cnosil, PlaidJacket, MattF and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I really don't know the flex of my clubs. My driver has a Fujikura Speeder-57 with an S label. Doesn't mean anything. Is it Stiff or Regular? Again... who knows. What I do know is that it plays well with my swing and the EXS head that's attached to it. My irons are Aerotech SteelFiber i-80. They are labeled R. TR1PTIK, MattF and cnosil 3 Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomkgolf Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 @PlaidJacket the flexes are extra stiff (X), stiff (S), regular (R), senior (A) and ladies (L) as far as I know but if you're hitting it well does it really matter? ahammer051 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomkgolf Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 @CarlH I agree with that. It's the same as a driver or iron head, they are all different but are they possibly overlooked as not being important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 My SS is on the border of S and X, but I play S. Same here MattF and GB13 2 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The thing to remember with flex designations is just because it states L,A,R,S,X doesn’t always mean anything. Especially with stock shafts. 1 shaft may be labeled R but may cpm similarly to a shaft labeled S. More golfers would benefit from leaving their ego out of the equation when it comes to flex. I am a firm believer in playing a shaft that feels right to YOU and helps you put a good swing on it. I use loft to adjust spin and launch. I have played shafts from regular to x stiff and even hit my fathers senior flex. Results were basically the same. My same crappy swing produced the same crappy results. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy fixyurdivot, TR1PTIK, GB13 and 3 others 6 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomkgolf Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 1 hour ago, blackngold_blood said: The thing to remember with flex designations is just because it states L,A,R,S,X doesn’t always mean anything. Especially with stock shafts. 1 shaft may be labeled R but may cpm similarly to a shaft labeled S. More golfers would benefit from leaving their ego out of the equation when it comes to flex. I am a firm believer in playing a shaft that feels right to YOU and helps you put a good swing on it. I use loft to adjust spin and launch. I have played shafts from regular to x stiff and even hit my fathers senior flex. Results were basically the same. My same crappy swing produced the same crappy results. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The thing to remember with flex designations is just because it states L,A,R,S,X doesn’t always mean anything. Especially with stock shafts. 1 shaft may be labeled R but may cpm similarly to a shaft labeled S. More golfers would benefit from leaving their ego out of the equation when it comes to flex. I am a firm believer in playing a shaft that feels right to YOU and helps you put a good swing on it. I use loft to adjust spin and launch. I have played shafts from regular to x stiff and even hit my fathers senior flex. Results were basically the same. My same crappy swing produced the same crappy results. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyI was playing A senior flex. This week I was fitted and put me into a R regular flex and a heavier shaft. It seems to work.I believe you have to try your club of choice with the different shafts available to get the right combination. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy CarlH, PING Apologist #9, Tomkgolf and 2 others 4 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmikecpa Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On the shaft labels I play x in my driver, three wood and hybrid with an s in my irons. According to CPMs I am heavy x in the driver and three wood, mid x in the hybrid and x in all my irons and wedges. Labels don’t tell the entire story. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk PING Apologist #9, Rickp, HardcoreLooper and 3 others 6 Quote WITB 2024 Driver: Qi10 LS 9* HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60 6.5 Fairway: M5 15* Evenflow Black 75g 6.5 Fairway: Sim 19* HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5 Hybrid: 0317x 22* KBS Proto 95x Irons: X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Wedges: Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Putter: Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Ball: Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On the shaft labels I play x in my driver, three wood and hybrid with an s in my irons. According to CPMs I am heavy x in the driver and three wood, mid x in the hybrid and x in all my irons and wedges. Labels don’t tell the entire story. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAgree.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Tomkgolf 1 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Wait, this is the internet, doesn't everyone play XX flex? MattF, PING Apologist #9, silver & black and 4 others 2 5 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmikecpa Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Wait, this is the internet, doesn't everyone play XX flex? I do in the driver :)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk MattF and Tomkgolf 2 Quote WITB 2024 Driver: Qi10 LS 9* HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60 6.5 Fairway: M5 15* Evenflow Black 75g 6.5 Fairway: Sim 19* HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5 Hybrid: 0317x 22* KBS Proto 95x Irons: X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Wedges: Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Putter: Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Ball: Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscipleofPenick Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 X in everything but wedges. Those are DG wedge flex.Take Dead Aim MattF and Tomkgolf 2 Quote Take Dead Aim Driver: PXG 0211 10.5* Fairway: Titleist 917 F3 15* Hybrid: Adams Idea Pro Boxer Gold 18* Irons: MacGregor MT-86 Pro Wedges: Vokey 50/54/58 Putter: SeeMore X2 Costa del Mar Ball: Srixon Z-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up N Down Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 8 hours ago, GB13 said: My SS is on the border of S and X, but I play S. I’m exactly the same GB13 and Tomkgolf 2 Quote Driver: TaylorMade M2 9.5 3 Wood: Taylormade M2 16.5 Utility: Srixon U65 20deg (3 iron) Irons: Srixon z765 4-AW Wedges: Callaway MD4 54 & 58 Putter : Odyssey Stroke Lab 7s Ball : TaylorMade TP5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullsendglf Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I currently use a proforce V2 7F5 extra-stiff shaft. The correct shaft makes a HUGE difference in my game. If was using that L shaft that you had, id easily loose 30-40 yards short on my drives. Tomkgolf and MattF 2 Quote M5 7.5Deg UST Proforce V2 tipped 1" strong 70g X M5 Rocket 3 14deg UST Proforce V2 70g X GaparLo 2 17deg KBS Tour Hybrid Prototype 95g X 4-iron Titleist T-MB Project X 6.5 5-Pw Taylormade P7TW Project X 6.5 52 Slate Blue Vokey SM7 Project X 6.5 56 Jet Black Vokey SM7 Project X 6.0 60 HiToe Mill Grind Project X 6.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PING Apologist #9 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I'm a "tweener" Driver SS is low to mid 90's (mostly low), but a stiff flex usually fits me better and that is based mostly on feel. In fact, all my shafts are now of the stiff variety. I started with R-flex with everything and had awful results. After being fitted to a stiff shaft for my first ever driver fitting last year, I have since upgraded all equipment to stiff with very positive results across the board. Are they perfect? No. But they "feel" right and I am comfortable with them all. I can also certainly tell the difference between R & S and R for me just feels like a noodle. I believe for me it has a lot to do with my semi-violent transition... My 2-cents. MattF, Tomkgolf and Rickp 3 Quote In my DLX Cart Bag: Driver: G410 SFT, set to 9.5*, Mitsubishi Tensei CK Orange 60, stiff (MGS Official 2019 Tester) 3W: G-Series SF TEC, set to 16*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 5W: G400 SFT, set to 19*, Aldila Tour Blue ATX, 65g, stiff 7W: G410 SFT, set to 22*. Alta CB 65 Red, stiff Irons: GMax, Green Dot, 5-PW, Project X Graphite Blue 6.0, 80-90g , stiff Wedges: Glide 2.0 Stealth, 50* SS, 54* ES & 60*/8 Forged MGS Special from the Wedge Wizard, Green Dot, Alta CB graphite, 84g, stiff Putter: Vault 2.0 B60 Copper, 33", black dot w/GP SNSR grip (PING Sigma 2 Fetch under "see-trials") Ball: MTB BLACK (MGS Official 2018 Tester for the MTB RED) Shoes: Classics Tour w/Black Widow Softspikes Disabled Marine Veteran. Semper Fi! #No apologies, just Play Your Best #Powertotheplayers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfertrb Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I'm in stiff everything except my 3 wood which still says stiff but it has been tipped to play between stiff and extra stiff. It's a holdover from the clubs I played before my back surgeries. I don't have near the speed I once did but I mostly play what I know works in terms of shafts.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk MattF and Tomkgolf 2 Quote Ping G400 LST 8.5* Graphite Design DI 6 stiff 45" Taylormade RBZ Proto 14.5* Oban Kiyoshi 85 04 42.5" Adams 4555 19* Matrix Ozik Altus 80 S/X 42" Ping G410 Crossover 2 Project X Even Flow Blue 85 6.0 40" Ping i500 4-8 Modus 105 Stiff Ping Blueprint 9-P Modus 105 Stiff Fourteen RM-12 53* and 58* Tour Issue Black Onyx s400 Odyssey Tour Black Series 9 35" Flatso 1.0 Srixon Z Star XV 2018 Ping Hoofer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_Mac Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Stiff driver, hybrids, irons, SW, x-flex for 3W.Used to be X in driver, woods, hybrids but had lost speed (always preferred stiff in irons even when my speed was up). Seemed to have picked it up again as the 3W keeps working better and I tend to get loose with driver lately. May throw the RIP Alpha X into driver to test the waters again. MattF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 'S' in irons except wedges which are 'R'- go figure, it just felt better MattF, Rickp and HardcoreLooper 3 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAgolfer2017 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 5 hours ago, PING Apologist #9 said: I'm a "tweener" Driver SS is low to mid 90's (mostly low), but a stiff flex usually fits me better and that is based mostly on feel. In fact, all my shafts are now of the stiff variety. I started with R-flex with everything and had awful results. After being fitted to a stiff shaft for my first ever driver fitting last year, I have since upgraded all equipment to stiff with very positive results across the board. Are they perfect? No. But they "feel" right and I am comfortable with them all. I can also certainly tell the difference between R & S and R for me just feels like a noodle. I believe for me it has a lot to do with my semi-violent transition... My 2-cents. I'm the same way. My swing speed hovers in the middle, but I always do better with heavier shafts. PING Apologist #9 1 Quote Bag: 4.5LS Driver: Stealth 9* w/ Aldila Red 60 Fairway: SIM 15* w/ Diamana 70 Fairway: GBB Heavenwood 19* w/ Fujikura Pro 72 Irons: p790 4-PW w/ C-Taper Lite 110s Wedge: MG3 50 & 54 Wedge: Hi-Toe 60* Putter: Spider X Ball: TP5 PIX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattF Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Through fittings and trial and error I play S or 6.0 in everything. My driver SS is about 100mph and irons about 88mph but I have an aggressive downswing so the S works for me. PING Apologist #9 and cnosil 2 Quote In the bag: Driver: Darkspeed X 9° UST Mamiya LIN-Q M40X Blue 7F4 Fairway: Apex UW 19° & 21° Project X HZRDUS Smoke RDX Black 5.5 Irons: JPX 923 HMP 5-PW UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Wedges: T-22 Denim Copper 48°, 52° & 56° UST Mamiya Recoil 95 F4 Putter Sycamore 005 Wide Blade Bag: Fairway 14 stand bag Balls: Chrome Tour Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the King, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSUHOCKEY Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Tempo and transition have more to do with what shafts you should play than swing speed. A smooth 100 mph is a lot different than a quick 100 mph. cnosil and yungkory 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 17 hours ago, blackngold_blood said: More golfers would benefit from leaving their ego out of the equation when it comes to flex. I am a firm believer in playing a shaft that feels right to YOU and helps you put a good swing on it. I use loft to adjust spin and launch. Good point. I suspect there is ego/vanity shaft configurations in many bags that aren't the best for that player. I say this because during my recent driver and iron fittings, I kept wanting to hear "stiff shaft needed" for this swing - regular just sounds wimpy . I think many associate stiff shaft with low handicap players and, much like selecting a ball that their favorite tour pros play as opposed to one that fits their game, allow image to steer the boat. tony@CIC and PING Apologist #9 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 For as long as I can remember, I've played stiff shafts. I did a driver fitting last Thanksgiving, and ended up with a Graphite Design YS-Six in X flex, even though my clubhead speed was 98-100 mph. As I understand it, the X flex did a better job of lowering spin. I have no complaints, I gained 15 yards or so. MattF, PING Apologist #9 and cnosil 3 Quote Irons Titleist T200, AMT Red stiff Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X T22 54 and 58 wedges 7-wood 5-wood B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ole gray Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Wait, this is the internet, doesn't everyone play XX flex? I go with AAA myself as you get better road service I game regular flex in all my clubs Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy russtopherb, tony@CIC, GB13 and 3 others 4 2 Quote Ping G430 Max Driver 10.5 Degree Titleist TSR1 4, 5, & 6 Hybrids Titleist T350 Irons 7 - W48 Cleveland CBX ZipCore 52 56 & 60 Degree Wedges LAB Mezz Max Broomstick Putter / TPT Shaft (Platinum @ 45/78) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Theoo Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Just had a fitting yesterday and he recommended X in my woods. My irons are 6.5s wedges are X but soft stepped tony@CIC 1 Quote Driver: Epic 10.5 set to 9.5 w/ Tour AD-DI 44.5 FW: F6 baffler set at 16º Hybrid: NONEIrons: 3i 2014 TP CB 4-PW 2011 TP MC w/ TT S400 Wedges: 52º 56º 60 º w/ KBS C-Taper XS Soft-stepped Putter: Sigma G Tyne 34 inches Gold dot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 4 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said: 'S' in irons except wedges which are 'R'- go figure, it just felt better That actually isn't unusual at all. A lot of players play weaker flexes in their wedges since they are used for more "controlled" shots and don't need the extra stiffness to stabilize the shaft. It also can provide better feel around the green. Rickp, fixyurdivot, tony@CIC and 2 others 5 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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