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@Nunfa0 - I know it is likely outside the scope of the challenge, but regarding ShotScope vs Arccos, what is it that you now like so much more about Arccos? 

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How often is Arccos reommending a club where you would choose another?

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2 hours ago, bardle said:

1 penalty and 1 short tee shot into the trees on a dogleft left that I had to punch out from. Does a penalty somehow negate 9 fairways and multiple 270+ drives in the fairway? 

It did this same thing to me in the round before last as well I just hadn't mentioned it here yet. It was also 9/14 fairways and 1 penalty and shows my driving handicap as 30+...

I wouldn't think so. Something doesn't seem right...

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6 minutes ago, goaliewales14 said:

What challenge has been your favorite thus far and why?

Is there a specific challenge you're hoping to see in the coming weeks?

I've liked both the GIR and the FIR challenge the best because it forces me to play differently. Specifically the GIR. It was all or nothing so i was just as aggressive as possible and I actually scored better because of it. I learned alot from both of them. which is probably why I liked them the best. I'm also hitting more greens now because of what I learned in that challenge. 

Is there a specific challenge you're hoping to see in the coming weeks?

Well we already know what is coming so I can't actually answer that question...

 

6 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

@Nunfa0  @robertson153  @Bucky CC

@bardle @palvord

What is your favorite feature about the Arccos system?

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Not sure about a favorite feature but this is my favorite screen. I love seeing my averages for everything on every hole. 

 

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There are many questions I have, but mine mainly pertains to Arccos and how you perceive the handicap system it uses. Do you believe it to be a accurate scope of your handicap now that you have a good baseline or is it screwed one way or another?

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Do you find a combination of the Arccos game element handicaps correlates to your normal handicap?

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12 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said:

I wouldn't think so. Something doesn't seem right...

Upon further investigation, there is this quote in the driver section:

"if you hit your drive into trouble (e.g. where you cannot take a direct approach to the green) and must hit a recovery shot to get back into position, Arccos will penalize your driving handicap instead of your approach handicap."

I am wondering if, on some holes, a good drive followed by say, a chunked iron, is perceived as a punchout or "recovery shot" and hence its penalizing my driving handicap unfairly instead of my approach handicap. Its the only thing I can think of...

2 minutes ago, Apolloshowl said:

There are many questions I have, but mine mainly pertains to Arccos and how you perceive the handicap system it uses. Do you believe it to be a accurate scope of your handicap now that you have a good baseline or is it screwed one way or another?

My Arccos handicap is currently 1.3 strokes higher than my GHIN index. so I think its tracking well with my improvement. Even when my individual handicaps (Driving, Approach, etc.) go up, but my scores go down, my overall HC still tracks with my GHIN. So whatever voodoo magic is happening, it seems to be working. 

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2 minutes ago, bardle said:

Upon further investigation, there is this quote in the driver section:

"if you hit your drive into trouble (e.g. where you cannot take a direct approach to the green) and must hit a recovery shot to get back into position, Arccos will penalize your driving handicap instead of your approach handicap."

I am wondering if, on some holes, a good drive followed by say, a chunked iron, is perceived as a punchout or "recovery shot" and hence its penalizing my driving handicap unfairly instead of my approach handicap. Its the only thing I can think of...

My Arccos handicap is currently 1.3 strokes higher than my GHIN index. so I think its tracking well with my improvement. Even when my individual handicaps (Driving, Approach, etc.) go up, but my scores go down, my overall HC still tracks with my GHIN. So whatever voodoo magic is happening, it seems to be working. 

So I am a spy and found you on Arccos. Just a quick glance and I notice you hit some 4 and 5 irons off the tee. It looks like this is the right club but Arccos doesn't like this. My course has a par 5 that you can't really hit it over 220 and I am penalized every time I play that hole. Look at one of your rounds on the dashboard and the more green you see off the tee the better. Take a look and see which holes are penalizing you. 

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When you crank up, or down the loft on the F9 does it close or open the face noticeably at address?

When you loft up or down, do you switch the weights? 

Does weight switching by itself change the launch as I'm finding in standard positions the launch of a 10.5 is very low.

 

What's the fairway f9 launch? high low or mid- does it sound the same as the Driver?

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6 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said:

So I am a spy and found you on Arccos. Just a quick glance and I notice you hit some 4 and 5 irons off the tee. It looks like this is the right club but Arccos doesn't like this. My course has a par 5 that you can't really hit it over 220 and I am penalized every time I play that hole. Look at one of your rounds on the dashboard and the more green you see off the tee the better. Take a look and see which holes are penalizing you. 

Eureka! This fixed the problem. I never looked that closely at the rounds on a desktop. I had penalties assigned to my driver that actually should have been assigned to my irons. so I fixed that and suddenly I'm at a 14.4 Driving handicap last round which makes way more sense. Duh. 

Thank you for creeping on me and helping me out. Ha

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Since there are points for every hy/fw shot hit, will anyone be gaming only those clubs?  

I'd gamble and even putt with one 😉

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Congratulations to both@Nunfa0 and@Wedgie on your wins this week!@Wedgie you definitely have some good, embarrassing material on your son with those pictures.

Another question for the testers, has this challenge changed the way any of you perceive Cobra?

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Testers; How do you like the weekly challenges?

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2 hours ago, JonMUSC08 said:

@Nunfa0  @robertson153  @Bucky CC

@bardle @palvord

What is your biggest annoyance with this competition?

 

1 hour ago, THEZIPR23 said:

Testers; How do you like the weekly challenges?

 

Asking the real, hard-hitting questions

 

Edit:  Actually, let me add to these a question of my own: 

Competitors, What advice would you give to forum members that would like to participate in a future Cobra Challenge?

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Good gracious, I've been gone for barely a week and I am not sure what's more of a challenge to catch up on: work or this thread.  Good work guys!  Congrats @Nunfa0 for whipping some tail in the dark (should be extra points here).

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1 hour ago, goaliewales14 said:

What challenge has been your favorite thus far and why?

Is there a specific challenge you're hoping to see in the coming weeks?

They've all been good so far.  I like the strategy involved in trying to change my game to meet the challenge but still score well.

We can't get into specfics about what's to come but I think all of us are excited (and nervous) about next week's challenge.

1 hour ago, GregB135 said:

How often is Arccos reommending a club where you would choose another?

It was terrible starting out but as we have more data points in the system it seems to be getting better and better.  I don't look at it every shot but the few I do my preferred club is either the 1st of 2nd Caddie suggestion.

1 hour ago, Apolloshowl said:

There are many questions I have, but mine mainly pertains to Arccos and how you perceive the handicap system it uses. Do you believe it to be a accurate scope of your handicap now that you have a good baseline or is it screwed one way or another?

Right now Arccos is 0.5 below my current USGA trend.  I'd say that is fairly accurate.

42 minutes ago, knightsofnii said:

Since there are points for every hy/fw shot hit, will anyone be gaming only those clubs?  

I'd gamble and even putt with one 😉

That's the beauty of all of these challenges.  Who's willing to go all in on the fairways and hybrids this week?  I have no problem taking 3 wood or hybrid off the tee but I don't want to completely ruin my scores by doing something crazy like putting with one.  I would take too much heat from the guys at my course saying I was trying to inflate my handicap on purpose.

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4 minutes ago, Bucky CC said:

I have no problem taking 3 wood or hybrid off the tee but I don't want to completely ruin my scores by doing something crazy like putting with one.

As weird as it may be, I actually putt with my hybrid when I'm just off the green.  It was something I learned at the Tour Striker Academy.  I use it when there's a bit too much grass to go through, but not enough to warrant a chip.

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7 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

Another question for the testers....

For some reason, I first read this as a question for the haters....

@bardle because of the size of this thread, you may have posted and I missed it, how is your gapping looking with the one lengths? Perhaps post a screen shot of your Arccos playing distanced?

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