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@goaliewales14 to answer your question.  We didn't put any restrictions on what they did or didn't ask during the fitting.  I actually based on my fittimg encouraged everyone to ask as many questions as they wanted.  

The only "rule" was they had to order what the fitter recommended, and not go with what they think would work "better".   But my indication is no one had any issue at all with the recommendations.   

Even though my fitter was a bit worried how I might react to a 9w.  I told him, hey if you tell me a women's club is going to work for me in a particular gap, then bring it on.  

As you'll see in my fitting portion he was spot on with his recommendations 

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No doubt on the sound - I will tell you that they put something in mine (rat glue I assume) to get the swing weight to my desired number and it sounds much better to my ear. Off the tee this club is so long and effortlessly so. It's really great off thr deck too but it's special off the tee - I use it so much. The thing that I really like is the confidence it gives me - I feel like I can't miss. I have always liked long irons and hybrids have been a bit hit or miss for me so that is a contributing factor as well. Thanks for the response and thanks so much for your service! My dad was in the Navy and it has a special place in my heart. You have a lovely family too!


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I’m not a huge fan of hot melt, but I’m considering using some on my Crossover later on down the road. Admittedly it has been a mixed bag for me with the club so far, and I’m honestly still trying to figure it out. But the good shots I’ve hit have been impressive so I just need to put in more time with it. And thanks for the kind words!

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Just want to chime in with a spoiler and say the Crossovers are

So fun to hit!

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Just posted my fitting review! Check it out here! 

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5 hours ago, TSauer said:

Just want to chime in with a spoiler and say the Crossovers are emoji91.pngemoji91.png

So fun to hit!

I'm going to have to go give these crossovers a try. My propensity to hook a hybrid every so often always makes me nervous. 

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I'm going to have to go give these crossovers a try. My propensity to hook a hybrid every so often always makes me nervous. 


That was honestly my issue with hybrids, I've never been confident with them for some reason.

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Just posted my fitting review! Check it out here! 
mr.hicksta's Ping Long Game/Gap Testing Fitting


Nice job, sir!

I’m just curious. You guys didn’t hit any irons to determine gapping between the shortest of these and those?




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You beat me to this response I agree and got my opinion from TXG video of the hybrid 5 wood comparison and it's the reason I switch to a 5 wood now over a hybrid

A lot of pros carry a 5 wood over a hybrid because it launches easier, has a steeper angle of descent and generally has a flatter lie angle 


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9 wood seems bizarre at first but it’s loft is 20.5, the same as my old Eye 2 5 wood. So it’s really not that crazy when you think about it.


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Personally, I wish we’d see more offerings in the higher lofted woods. As@tsauer has said and myself included, hybrids are not always the easiest to hit.

Now if you were to hand a golfer a 7 or 9 wood and have them take some swings, I’d bet the results would be a very positive outcome.
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2 hours ago, bens197 said:

 


Personally, I wish we’d see more offerings in the higher lofted woods. As@tsauer has said and myself included, hybrids are not always the easiest to hit.

Now if you were to hand a golfer a 7 or 9 wood and have them take some swings, I’d bet the results would be a very positive outcome.

 

My latest addition to my bag is a G410 SFT 7w with a stock Alta (s) shaft. It is really amazing and fit right into an awful gap I had between 5i & 3w. For some reason, I had troubles with my 4i and confidence with it was always low. Knowing that I hit FW's pretty well and consistently, it blended right in with them and solved that gap issue and has had an immediate positive impact on my game.

I've read al the posted stage-1's so far and nice work everybody! Really dig this review and am looking forward to watching you all progress.

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Nice job, sir!

I’m just curious. You guys didn’t hit any irons to determine gapping between the shortest of these and those?




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Thanks! I told him the lofts of my 4 and 5 irons and we worked off those. He certainly wasn’t rushing, but he was pretty efficient!

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Personally, I wish we’d see more offerings in the higher lofted woods. As[mention=65882]tsauer[/mention] has said and myself included, hybrids are not always the easiest to hit.

Now if you were to hand a golfer a 7 or 9 wood and have them take some swings, I’d bet the results would be a very positive outcome.


That’s where I’m different. Hybrids have been easier for me for whatever reason. I think part of it is the smaller footprint. FWs in the other hand have been a real struggle, but the G410 line is a beast. While I didn’t get a 5W, the few swings I took produced a lovely high launch, which any golfer would’ve enjoyed!

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I hit hybrids okay but there’s always the fear of the thinned one or the draw turned hook -

Fairway woods are a welcome relief so far. My fitting review is written - just letting the ink dry before I drop it in. Probably tomorrow.

I’m heading out to play


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I hit hybrids okay but there’s always the fear of the thinned one or the draw turned hook -

Fairway woods are a welcome relief so far. My fitting review is written - just letting the ink dry before I drop it in. Probably tomorrow.

I’m heading out to play


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I think one of the things I like most about the G410 FW line is how compact they club heads are. I couldn’t stand the G400 FWs, but they made some welcome design changes. And I think I could easily play a 5W or 7W, but the hybrids are a better fit for me now.

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I've had mine ready to go. But wanted you guys to get your Stage 1's up first.   I'll probably post it tomorrow as well.   I keep reading it and thinking itsctoo long...after giving you guys guidelines. 

But as MODa we follow a slightly different route.  Usually one combined post to cover all stages. 

But this review had a couple different parts.  I'll break it into a couple posts. 

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Stage 1 is up, just like the ball after it's crushed with a G410 crossover. 

 

Okay, terrible pun, but go check out my stage 1!

Driver:            :cobra-small: Aerojet 9* | Hzrdus Black Gen 4
Fairway:         :ping-small: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65
Hybrid:           :titleist-small: TS2 18* | Tensei AV Blue 70 S
Hybrid:           :ping-small: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80
Irons:              :taylormade-small: P790 5-PW | DG S300
Wedges:         :titleist-small: Vokey SM9 | 52, 56, 60 | DG S200
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12 minutes ago, TSauer said:

Stage 1 is up, just like the ball after it's crushed with a G410 crossover. 

 

Okay, terrible pun, but go check out my stage 1!

Great pics and great stage 1!

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Great pics and great stage 1!


Thanks, mate!

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Hybrid:           :ping-small: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80
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NSFW= Not Safe For Wife (to know I'm thinking about new clubs).

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Haha, now that's the perfect acronym!

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Fairway:         :ping-small: G410 3W 13* | Alta CB 65
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Hybrid:           :ping-small: iCrossover 20* | Kai'li White 80
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Stage 1 is up, just like the ball after it's crushed with a G410 crossover. 
 
Okay, terrible pun, but go check out my stage 1!


A+ based on the strong GIF game alone! Nice work!

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@mr.hicksta do you typically look for a lower flight with a lot of your clubs given the constant windy conditions?

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2 hours ago, TSauer said:

Stage 1 is up, just like the ball after it's crushed with a G410 crossover. 

 

Okay, terrible pun, but go check out my stage 1!

Great job.  And those photos ....sick!!! 

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Great job.  And those photos ....sick!!! 



He’s the king of pictures OMG! Why him again as a co tester!

But the 9 wood I hit today makes it all worth while. If any of you had seen it. We got to the tee and my playing partner said, “I’m not hitting a call from here!”

I thought, so is this a time for the 9 wood? 168 into a little breeze, I could try and flight it down, carry that crap and keep it on the front tier. Prior to this it would have been 4 hybrid to the back tier, 3 putt and move on. Not today my friends, not today!


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Ping G410 7, 9 wood  Alta 65 R flex

Srixon ZX5 MK II  5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex

India 52,56 (60 pending)  UST recoil 75's R flex  

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[mention=67511]mr.hicksta[/mention] do you typically look for a lower flight with a lot of your clubs given the constant windy conditions?


I typically try to pair low to mid launch shafts with higher lofted club heads and try to flight shots of necessary. I definitely don’t make my setup based on the wind though. And in this case the high ball flight is why I didn’t even give a 5W a second look after the shots I saw during the fitting. The combos I ended up with produce a flight that I think can be played anywhere. At least when I’m not swinging like a jerk

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I’m not a huge fan of hot melt, but I’m considering using some on my Crossover later on down the road. Admittedly it has been a mixed bag for me with the club so far, and I’m honestly still trying to figure it out. But the good shots I’ve hit have been impressive so I just need to put in more time with it. And thanks for the kind words!


I actually added a bit more so I could get the head just a bit heavier and it made all the difference. I have found the Crossover extremely forgiving for what it is but I wanted something to bridge the gap between my 4 iron and 3 wood. I'm really interested in the G410 fairways so I'm watching this thread closely!


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:titelist-small: TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g

:titelist-small: TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og

:titelist-small: TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R

:titelist-small: T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 

:titelist-small: SM10 48F/54M and58K

:ping-small: S159 48S/52S/56W/60B

:scotty-cameron-1: Select 5.5 Flowback 35" 

:titelist-small: ProV1  Play number 12

 

 

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Man that had to be a hell of an experience! Seems like they got you dialed in quickly, which isn’t surprising at all. With that HIO already it seems like you’re seeing some solid performance out of your setup!

:cobra-small: LTDx Black 10.5º | UST LIN-Q M40X TSPX Blue 6F4
:cobra-small: LTDx 3W 15º | UST LIN-Q M40X TSPX Blue 7F4
:ping-small: G425 3H 19º | UST Recoil Proto Hybrid 85F4
:srixon-small: Z785 4-PW | UST Recoil 125 Proto F4
:cleveland-small: RTX ZipCore Tour Rack 50
º Mid, 54º Mid, 60º Mid | UST Recoil Wedge Proto F4
:EVNROLL: ER5BV | BGT Stability Tour

:bridgestone-small: Tour B X

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Loving the details so far in the fitting reviews. Were there any clubs or shafts that the fitters recommended that you nodded along with but in the back of your mind you were thinking "oh boy I really don't know about this..."?

In my  :wilson_staff_small:  carry bag:
:mizuno-small: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex
:mizuno-small: ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex
:mizuno-small: ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex
:cleveland-small: Launcher 5h
:cleveland-small: Launcher CBX 6i-PW
:cleveland-small: CBX 54* & 58*
:cleveland-small: Huntington Beach #10
:bridgestone-small: e12 Contact
CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game

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