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2 hours ago, Thin2win said:

My first question for the lot of you testers, was there a club in your bag that hit the right gap and didn't warrant replacing and you ended up keeping? 

You got a new hybrid and 3 wood but your 26 year old 5w still works magic for you? 

Good question.  I'll go into detail when I post my fitting portion.-----so you've been warned.   

But my answer is No.  Everything from 5 hybrid to 3 iron is new.   I did not think there was a FW that could beat my 917 F2  but the G410 did!!   

Which one?  You'll have to come back to find out.  Ha

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My first question for the lot of you testers, was there a club in your bag that hit the right gap and didn't warrant replacing and you ended up keeping? 
You got a new hybrid and 3 wood but your 26 year old 5w still works magic for you? 


Great question!!!

Lots more to write about this in the testing post but my hybrids are SLDRs and aren’t exactly fresh faces - my 3 wood? A newer model Tour exotics that I hit well - actually I was very good with it off the tee and marginally acceptable with it off the turf.

More loft was my fitters mantra, more loft, more spin gets you places. (In my case)


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I can’t wait to read about the fitting process and what everybody got fit into. This is going to be my next venture. I seem to have found a gap issue in my 195-210 range.


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I have this issue too. I’m not a long hitter so that range prior to this was my 4 iron or heavenwood. I’ll touch on it more in my stage 1 or fitting review! Stay tuned!


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My first question for the lot of you testers, was there a club in your bag that hit the right gap and didn't warrant replacing and you ended up keeping? 
You got a new hybrid and 3 wood but your 26 year old 5w still works magic for you? 


I think for me, time will tell but the g410 line is in for the long haul. The one club that was replaced that may fall into that category is my heavenwood. That was always my old faithful club that I could pull in a number of situations/yardages.


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Annnnd my Stage 1 is up! Keep the questions coming y'all!

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My first question for the lot of you testers, was there a club in your bag that hit the right gap and didn't warrant replacing and you ended up keeping? 
You got a new hybrid and 3 wood but your 26 year old 5w still works magic for you? 


Sort of. I could’ve made a good argument to keep my G400 3H, but I decided to make the switch to take advantage of the updates tech and adjustability.
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Im curious how the gapping process went. I currently am pretty well set up to 175 (5 iron) but cannot hit my 4 or 3 irons (like most ppl). But over 200 yds i am good with 5w & 3w. From my knowledge, hybrids are not adjustable and new clubs can be pretty strong loft compared to older clubs. Plus with new tech, they all promote going further. With my older clubs (?2012? TM rocketbladz irons), sounds like i would need a 5 or 6 hybrid to fit in place of a 3 and 4 iron haha.

Hopefully i explained this well and if anyone has some insight. thx

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Im curious how the gapping process went. I currently am pretty well set up to 175 (5 iron) but cannot hit my 4 or 3 irons (like most ppl). But over 200 yds i am good with 5w & 3w. From my knowledge, hybrids are not adjustable and new clubs can be pretty strong loft compared to older clubs. Plus with new tech, they all promote going further. With my older clubs (?2012? TM rocketbladz irons), sounds like i would need a 5 or 6 hybrid to fit in place of a 3 and 4 iron haha.
Hopefully i explained this well and if anyone has some insight. thx

New g410 line is adjustable in both fairways and hybrids. So you can adjust +/- up to 1.5*. Really let’s you dial in your distances


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On 6/25/2019 at 7:12 PM, Mr_Theoo said:

I’d actually like to read that. Would be interesting to see what ones regular playing partners notice when one gets new gear

What I notice is that his bag is like a revolving door at a gentleman's club offering two for one drinks...😁😅😂

 

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4 hours ago, JonMUSC08 said:

Im curious how the gapping process went. I currently am pretty well set up to 175 (5 iron) but cannot hit my 4 or 3 irons (like most ppl). But over 200 yds i am good with 5w & 3w. From my knowledge, hybrids are not adjustable and new clubs can be pretty strong loft compared to older clubs. Plus with new tech, they all promote going further. With my older clubs (?2012? TM rocketbladz irons), sounds like i would need a 5 or 6 hybrid to fit in place of a 3 and 4 iron haha.

Hopefully i explained this well and if anyone has some insight. thx

It's been mentioned already, but the G410 hybrids are indeed adjustable, which is probably the biggest change they made to them. You would probably get away with a 4 and 5 hybrid and then adjust them to your desired loft. 

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I know it's early but @mr.hicksta but how does that crossover compare to your previous long irons? Did it replace a 4 iron? If so was loft the same?

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Has anyone dialed the 2 Hybrid down to 15.5°?

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24 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said:

I know it's early but @mr.hicksta but how does that crossover compare to your previous long irons? Did it replace a 4 iron? If so was loft the same?

It's different than my Epon AF-505 4i in just about every way. It's a degree weaker (23 instead of 22), 3/4" longer and has a graphite shaft. And yes, as of now it has replaced my 4i, but so far I've only used it a few times and have not used it off the tee yet. Overall though it's definitely more forgiving than the typical long iron, and it's longer as well. My initial impression is that the Crossover will get limited use, but that may change as I get more comfortable with it.  

8 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Has anyone dialed the 2 Hybrid down to 15.5°?

I actually went the other way with mine, haha! When I get some Trackman time I'll dial it down and will post the numbers. 

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So this is pretty cool - so far we have a Crossover and a 9 Wood in play. My struggles with the hybrid are well documented so color me very interested in how both of those clubs perform out on the course for our testers.


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3 hours ago, revkev said:

Another great question - as my colleague, Hicksta, wrote, all of these G410 clubs are adjustable. 

 

The fitting was eye opening.  I'm just working on that part of the thread but we had top end fitters to work with.  My guy's concern was helping my trajectory.  I was amazed to learn that all of my clubs from my 48 to my 7 iron flew the same height, between 75 and 80 feet - exactly right for my swing speed.  I started loosing trajectory at 6 iron - that's actually why I have a large gap between 6 and 7 iron according to my eye ball and my shot scope stats (I also have very little gap between 6 iron and 5 hybrid and then a big one between 5 hybrid and 4 hybrid).  All of that comes from not enough trajectory, not enough spin and too much run out.  That only got worse with 4 hybrid and 3 wood and then to a lesser extent with driver.  I hit every club in my new set up 75 to 80 feet high and there are nice even gaps going all the way up to my longest club before driver (5 wood).  I also was fit for driver, which was not within the scope of this test - what he did there blew my mind but I'm clearly getting more yardage and better accuracy on the course.  I've written about that elsewhere on the website.

 

Keep the questions coming guys - I'm looking forward to seeing our other guy's stage ones.  I didn't realize that Hicksta was in the Navy.  Thank you for your service teammate.  My son was a submariner for 8 and 1/2 years.  A nuke.

I'm wondering what we will learn next?  Maybe that TSauer is aquaman! 🙂

How far off was your swing speed to keep from losing trajectory with your 6 iron?

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Would wonder what makes a fitter pick hybrid vs similar lofted wood. Mark Crossfield just did a video about more pGA pros going for 7 woods vs the Europeans who used hybrids due to wanting different launch

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5 hours ago, MDGolfHacker said:

What I notice is that his bag is like a revolving door at a gentleman's club offering two for one drinks...😁😅😂

 

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LMAO...You're killing me!  And I won't hazard to guess where more money has been spent 😎

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2 hours ago, mr.hicksta said:

It's different than my Epon AF-505 4i in just about every way. It's a degree weaker (23 instead of 22), 3/4" longer and has a graphite shaft. And yes, as of now it has replaced my 4i, but so far I've only used it a few times and have not used it off the tee yet. Overall though it's definitely more forgiving than the typical long iron, and it's longer as well. My initial impression is that the Crossover will get limited use, but that may change as I get more comfortable with it.  

I actually went the other way with mine, haha! When I get some Trackman time I'll dial it down and will post the numbers. 

You a fool if you put that Epon back in after what I saw on Sunday!

27 minutes ago, Rchang said:

Would wonder what makes a fitter pick hybrid vs similar lofted wood. Mark Crossfield just did a video about more pGA pros going for 7 woods vs the Europeans who used hybrids due to wanting different launch

The difference, I think, is that tour pros don't have the same struggles we do and have the technical ability to game either of the three (hybrid, crossover, fw). For us, it's more likely to be whatever we're more comfortable with. Personally, I feel like I would get better, more-consistent contact with a 7-wood, but like Crossfield says, with woods there's always that feeling that it could go way off the planet.

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