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It's been one of the most talked about training aids this year, and has popped up in use by golfers all over the world, including professional tours. But now you'll get to see real everyday golfers like yourself use the full Putt Out system. They'll use it indoors, they'll use it out doors, they'll use the whole system, they'll use parts of the system independently.  You can follow it all in this thread and best of all, you can get direct feedback from them on how it works for them, their likes, dislikes and most importantly see if it has improved their putting.

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   Direct access to their links are below.

 

@Kanoito                           Stage 1                      Stage 2

@HardcoreLooper             Stage 1                       Stage 2

@Peaksy68                        Stage 1                       Stage 2

@tommc23                        Stage 1                        Stage 2

@gaussman1                     Stage 1                        Stage 2                  

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Thanks MyGolfSpy and putout for the opportunity to review the PuttOut system

ABOUT ME

 

This is a bit of a rehash from previous reviews, see my review off Ping G700 irons here https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/24863-2018-official-forum-member-review-ping-g700-irons/ and my MLA Tour Mallet Putter review  https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/15892-official-forum-member-review-mla-putters/

 

I’m a 50 year old father of 2 wonderful (most of the time) teenage girls (17 & 19) My wife has been very supportive, if not encouraging of my golfing habits over the years.

I live and play golf on the Bellarine Peninsula in Victoria, Australia, about an hours drive southwest of Melbourne.

 

 

The Bellarine is blessed with some great golf courses, including 4 rated in Australia’s top 100. My club is Curlewis Golf Club, where I play the majority of my golf.  I live a few minutes from the course, and drive past every day on my way to work.   https://curlewisgolf.com.au/pages/about-the-course 

 

I’ve been playing for nearly 30 years, 20 of those seriously. The vast majority of my golf is in formal competitions, which is normal for golf in Australia. Only competition rounds are allowed for handicapping, and every competition round is entered into the Golf Australia handicap site.

On course, (and off) I love a bit of banter, and try to enjoy myself, while still trying to score the best I can. I spent the first half of my golf “career” just turning up and playing, never practicing at all.

My oldest daughter started playing when she was about 6, and started attending weekly junior clinics with the club pro when she was about 10. While these were on, I filled in time with some practice, and my handicap dropped from 10-12 down to 6 in 4 months. Amazing to see what a bit of practice can do.

I love the constant challenge that golf offers, and both the competitive and social aspect of the game.  While I enjoy the occasional scramble or 4BBB, I love the fact that what I score on the course is usually entirely up to me, be it good or bad.

 

I am currently in the process off returning to golf after suffering from a frozen shoulder. This required surgery and has basically prevented me playing this year. The last few months of play were a bit of a struggle as I couldn’t swing anywhere near how I usually do. Accordingly my handicap drifted out from around 5 to 7.6.

 

MY GAME

My game has been based mainly around a solid game off the tee, solid fairway woods and a competent chipping and putting game. 

Just prior to my shoulder issue becoming apparent, I updated my bag. At this stage I’ve managed to use my new irons for 4 rounds, driver twice and fairways and hybrids haven’t made it on to the course despite being purchased in January.

As described in my MLA Putter review, my putter is likely to be in my bag for a long time.

The biggest strength of my game is attitude. I never quit, and I’m more interested in the score I write down than how I did it. My course has very large, sloping greens, so being able to control speed is vital to scoring well, and the ability to hole breaking mid length putts really comes into play.

 

 

I like to use a relatively “Straight Back, Straight Through” putting stroke

 

 

 

 

I haven't been a big user of training aids, I have a cheap putting mat that has seen very little use, mainly due to it being flimsy, and very difficult to keep flat.

 

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Baseline Data

Due to my lack of recent play, I decided to get some baseline data. I did this prior to my kit arriving. I used a similar approach to Most Wanted Putter data, 20 putts each from 5, 10 and 20 feet. Putts were broken in to groups of 5 from each distance, and the order was mixed around. I picked as straight a putt as possible at my clubs practice green. I used new Srixon Z Star (2017) to remove any variability from scuffed or damaged balls.

 

 

Distance

1 Putt

2 Putt

3 Putt

Miss Left

Miss Right

Short

5 feet

14

5

1

6

0

0

10 feet

9

10

1

9

2

0

20 feet

3

16

1

15

2

4

The short putts were also included in the left or right misses.

 

The data points to something, more on that later.

 

THE PUTTOUT SYSTEM

The entire system consists of the mat, pressure trainer, mirror and gate.  It all came solidly boxed up, with lots of bubble wrap. The mat has a carry bag, and the pressure traineKr has a separate bag that comfortably holds the pressure trainer, mirror and gate. The packaging also comes with several different drills which utilise different aspects of the system.

Normally packaging isn’t something I’m going to comment on, unless it fails and results in damage, but the cardboard tube the mat came in is the most substantial piece of packaging I’ve seen. It probably has some possibilities in housing construction.

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Individual components

PuttOut Mat

 

The mat is thicker and heavier than other mats I’ve seen.It rolls out flat straight out of the packaging, and stays flat. This is a considerable improvement from a mat I’ve tried to use in the past. The tried part is primarily due to the fact that the mat would “scrunch” up at the slightest touch, especially when being used on a smooth surface. The mat has multiple sections, and different markings that can be used for a variety of drills. More detail will be provided in stage 2.

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Pressure Trainer

A clever, fold out device that give feedback on whether a putt is holed, and how far past the hole it would have gone. It also has the added feature of a perfect putt feature which sees a perfect putt (both line and speed) resting in a hole in the ramp. It’s harder than you would think to get the ball to rest in the hole.

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Mirror

The mirror is similar to most putting mirrors out there, with the added feature of moveable gates which are held in place magnetically. The mirror has markings spaced at one inch. Mine had a few minor scratches out of the box, but nothing that would interfere with its function.  The guy looking back at me seems to be much uglier than me, so an upgrade to the enhancement feature might be required.

 

Gate

A very simple device which is only slightly wider than a ball. A putt from 2 feet which is more than 1 degree off line won’t pass cleanly through the gate

 

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I'm planning on working through the suggested drills regularly over the next few weeks and repeating my 5, 10 and 20 feet putting to see if there has been any improvement. The relatively compact size and fact the mat rolls out flat straight out of the packaging will make it easier to practice indoors, or in my shed if my wife gets sick of me putting inside.

The variety of drills made possible by the various components should make it easier to stay motivated and encourage me to practice, which in our Australian winter, will be a change to most years.

After some brief reflection, I expect things to improve.

 

 

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Intro

First off thanks to MGS for letting me review something again my last one must have been okay and a special thanks to Puttout for the opportunity to test this product. This isn’t my first review and this isn’t my first time with a putting training aid. I use the SKLZ Accelerator Pro to work on simple things like keeping my face square when setting up and just working on my putter stroke. I have made improvements with my putting just by becoming more consistent. I am nowhere near the best golfer in the world but I have darn sure made improvements. My short game is generally pretty good but I always wanted my putting to be better. Golfing with good putters is always one of the times where I realize my putting can improve. Simple games of horse before rounds with friends makes me realize how many strokes I leave out there each time I golf. The question for me is do I use the right putter and I have always wondered that so I am going to use this training aid to help me figure out which of the two putters I use better. I am going to put the Evnroll 1 I have against my Ping Scottsdale TR. I want to do my best to lower my putts per round along with make sure that I have the best putting stroke possible.

How I golf

I am a higher handicap who is a good iron player and good with wedges. If I could play all rounds with just those clubs I would be a much better than 25 HCP.
My putting can be hot or cold with it trending more toward the cold side, this is why I tried the Evnroll. The ER1 is a great putter but the person using it is what matters, and I do not do the club justice. I tend to get frustrated with putting even though I’m a good lag putter. When I get frustrated when I start to use a bellied wedge and I start to focus on a simple stroke which makes me better. I can generally out putt myself with a bellied wedge compared to my putter.
I think I could benefit from actually being fit for a putter but I was not fit for either. I started with the Scottsdale and after joining here I started to wonder if the ER1 would make me better. I got one and had to tinker with it which landed me to a P2 grip, honestly my least favorite part of the club.
I use Golf Pad to track my scores and it gives me break downs of my putts after a round. This is also what I use to keep a rough HCP. It says my putting strokes gained is a -0.33 and that I averaged 39.7 putts last year. The average putts per hole is 2.2 which isn’t horrible, but there is definitely room for improvements.


About me


I am a firefighter paramedic in a small but very busy city. This consumes most of the week as I work 4 days and 4 days off. When I am off I train dogs or work on a farm, where the dogs are trained. I like to get one round of golf in a week but I also want to get as much time with my dogs as I can. I am currently house hunting which also takes up a decent amount of time, but the upside is that I can take this to work and practice in my down time, how ever short that is. I have been a higher cap golfer since I started in 2014 and I have not made the improvements that friends of mine have but I have continued to downtrend my scores every year. Last year I finally broke 100 and nearly broke 90 when reviewing the Hogan equalizers. Getting selected for a review is great for my golf game because it makes me feel like I need to focus on golf more than when I am not doing so.
    I am the kind of golfer that likes to take risks on the course with iron shots. I am not one to use a driver, mainly because I cannot keep it straight. I am deadly with my wedges from 90 yard on in, but the risky moves I take with my irons tends to put me in some bad spots. This tends to put a lot of focus on my wedges and when I get a bad lie, which happens with all the rain we have been getting in NEPA, I get left with a lag putt and I miss the short putts. The short putts are probably from a lack of concentration or me just expecting to make it after a good lag, but that causes me to 3 putt a lot. Some local course have some interesting greens which also puts pressure on the putter and when I feel the pressure I tend to miss the short ones.
    The best part of the game here in NEPA is the views. I enjoy my time to myself, mainly a solo golfer, and I enjoy my time outside. The course around me go up and down mountains and we have lots of holes across ravines, which make for hard shots but great views. The next best part of golf is the time I spend with some of my closest friends when we get the chance to get a round in together.

About the product

20190627_155243.jpgThis is what you all came her for the Puttout training. The cool part was the box game from MGS headquarters and that confused the heck out of me, but we got these cool notes.20190627_155357.jpg

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And the dog used to keep things interesting and try to keep my scores high. She always enjoys chasing golf balls as seen in the Equalizer review. Even though she is a year older she hasn’t changed heck she may even chase them more now. I am hoping that this will help me figure out which of the two putters is best for me, I’m trying to buy a house I’m not @Jmikecpa here. The end goal is to get my strokes gained at least trending closer to the positive and get those putts were hole under 2. I mean if we all could accomplish that we would all be happy. Will I be able to practice at home with my wirehair not interfering? Will I drop my HCP by improving my putting? Will I actually learn to enjoy putting??? These are some things I am hoping this review will help me figure out. Below are the drills and some tools that will be used to help me through this test.

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Looking forward to this, especially everyone's' thoughts on the mat since I already have the mirror!

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53 minutes ago, yungkory said:

Looking forward to this, especially everyone's' thoughts on the mat since I already have the mirror!

I like the distance markings as a guide and it definitely beats my IKEA rug 😄

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I'm really curious about the speed of the mat and how it translates to grass. Every single putting mat I've ever had was lightning fast then I'm leaving everything short on the course. 

Also curious about the friction. Past mats were carpet-like so my putter smoothly slid back and forward on them even if pressed down. As we all know, grass is not slick like that so I'd run into issues where I've engrained a stroke that wants me to drag the putter along the ground only to be met by the harsh reality of a "chunked putt".  

 

 

Comments on either of these areas would be appreciated. 

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1 hour ago, GolfSpy STUDque said:

I'm really curious about the speed of the mat and how it translates to grass. Every single putting mat I've ever had was lightning fast then I'm leaving everything short on the course. 

Also curious about the friction. Past mats were carpet-like so my putter smoothly slid back and forward on them even if pressed down. As we all know, grass is not slick like that so I'd run into issues where I've engrained a stroke that wants me to drag the putter along the ground only to be met by the harsh reality of a "chunked putt".  

 

 

Comments on either of these areas would be appreciated. 

Have you tried the VariSpeed mat?  You're able to make it fast or slower by brushing it.  It's really been a great addition!  I bought that mat when I bought my PuttOUT trainer earlier this year.  

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As promised in the testing application, I'm not one of the official reviews, but I'll do some of the challenges along with you guys.  I just purchased my PuttOUT trainer at the beginning of the season.  I really love it so far!  

My question to all the testers is do you guys ever see a time when you don't putt with the micro-target out?

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5 hours ago, Kanoito said:

I like the distance markings as a guide and it definitely beats my IKEA rug 😄

I tested the mat against the carpet in the Courtyard Marriott I stayed in last night.  It's not quite as fast, but it's much less grainy.  The ball rolls much truer.  I visit an out-of-state client every Tuesday morning.  I'll be bringing this with me to practice in the hotel room.

 

3 hours ago, GolfSpy STUDque said:

I'm really curious about the speed of the mat and how it translates to grass. Every single putting mat I've ever had was lightning fast then I'm leaving everything short on the course. 

Also curious about the friction. Past mats were carpet-like so my putter smoothly slid back and forward on them even if pressed down. As we all know, grass is not slick like that so I'd run into issues where I've engrained a stroke that wants me to drag the putter along the ground only to be met by the harsh reality of a "chunked putt".  

 

 

Comments on either of these areas would be appreciated. 

From what I've read, the mat rolls at about a 10 on the Stimpmeter.  Knock on wood, I haven't chunked a putt on it yet, but I'll be sure to report back if I do.  If I had to guess, I'd say that like a driving range mat, it's a little more forgiving than real grass.

 

1 hour ago, goaliewales14 said:

As promised in the testing application, I'm not one of the official reviews, but I'll do some of the challenges along with you guys.  I just purchased my PuttOUT trainer at the beginning of the season.  I really love it so far!  

My question to all the testers is do you guys ever see a time when you don't putt with the micro-target out?

I popped the micro-target out as soon as I got it, and I have yet to put it back in.  You can fold it with the micro-target out, so why bother putting it back in?  It's such a feeling of accomplishment when you actually make one; you can't deny yourself that.

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11 hours ago, HardcoreLooper said:

I’d like to thank MyGolfSpy for bringing me back as a tester, and I'd also like to thank the good folks at PuttOUT Golf for providing us with the gear.  As you can see, they're a good group, even if they did mix up our names... 

Give me back my note! 😄

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