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I'm a big fan of video and carry a tripod in my trunk at all times. Love taping my swing when something feels particularly wrong.

I will say, the last month I've done very little video. Sometimes, I have a nasty habit of trying to hit positions rather than just swing. I find this is made worse by over analyzing the recordings.

Glad you were able to find what works. You sometimes just really do have to, "swing your swing," as they say.

 

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Thanks for the input. I was given a cigar holder that looks like a 2 iron by Barbajo several years ago when we played together. (He played and I chopped weeds.) it turns out it is perfect for holding a cell phone. (I may include a pic next weekend when I get back home.

I really did consider trying to change more of my swing but I realize that any time I got in a pressure situation I would probably revert back. Also, I realized I was nearly paralyzed with swing thoughts.

Now it’s decide how to setup, then feel like I’m rolling the right elbow under while making a full turn, pull the butt of the club through first and hit the ball. Then find the ball. Then repeat.


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Don't give up on your dreams of looking like Rory! 🙂 haha. I've been taking lessons at GolfTec for a few weeks now and seeing my swing in slow motion video has been eye opening. I think it's one of the critical elements to fixing your swing. Good luck with the changes!

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There's an older YouTube video about the driver that's aimed at chronic slicers that talks about setting up with the driver in the middle of your stance and just letting the ball get in the way of a full swing. I remember watching it a few times when I was fighting a banana slice and the concept made a lot of sense to me. 

I used to video my swing but I found that I would then go apply a million tips I found on the Internet and none of them would ever work for more than a range session or two. So I just stick with the basics that I learned over a few lessons with a former mini-tour player and they do OK for me. My biggest issue, like yours Rick, is just not enough time out on the actual course vs. being a range rat.

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I use video but am careful with it. You can chase positions too much and actually be detrimental to your game. One of the best things to come out of modern golf teachings is the fact that you can achieve good positions without having a cookie cutter swing or one that looks like Rory. 

Harvey Penick said don't be afraid of the golfer with a good swing and a bad grip, fear the golfer with a bad swing and a bad grip. (paraphrased) 

When I do use video I use slow motion exclusively. I also have a a selfie stick that works great. Somebody on here recommend it and it is perfect. 

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=yoozon+selfie+stick&gclid=CjwKCAjw67XpBRBqEiwA5RCocQ4GwQ1JUecLTLqbuPegBgfdpjO0a2O2uT4pTZFvLoYUaQuHD7OnDhoC_5QQAvD_BwE&hvadid=224105654577&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9032262&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=2313723202478902827&hvtargid=aud-648278611385%3Akwd-367475320756&hydadcr=27229_10165008&tag=googhydr-20&ref=pd_sl_8ra0zcmfl1_e

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I downloaded a free app called Swing Profile. You can speed it up x4 or slow it down 1/4 and also freeze frame. It only does like 240 frames per second but that’s plenty. And since it was free it was well worth the money. 🤣


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22 hours ago, russtopherb said:

There's an older YouTube video about the driver that's aimed at chronic slicers that talks about setting up with the driver in the middle of your stance and just letting the ball get in the way of a full swing. I remember watching it a few times when I was fighting a banana slice and the concept made a lot of sense to me. 

I used to video my swing but I found that I would then go apply a million tips I found on the Internet and none of them would ever work for more than a range session or two. So I just stick with the basics that I learned over a few lessons with a former mini-tour player and they do OK for me. My biggest issue, like yours Rick, is just not enough time out on the actual course vs. being a range rat.

This sort of makes sense to me. I've got a tee time on Saturday and am going to try this on the range before I head out.

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I didn’t have a slicing problem. It was more of a getting out of sync and making poor (not strong enough of a word) contact. I could move the ball back and make great contact, but doing that with a driver does not lead to long, high drives. So I set up and focus on a point 6-8” directly behind the ball and let ‘er rip. I’m sure that subconsciously I’m adjusting my body to the left but it seems to be working.


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46 minutes ago, RoverRick said:

I didn’t have a slicing problem. It was more of a getting out of sync and making poor (not strong enough of a word) contact. I could move the ball back and make great contact, but doing that with a driver does not lead to long, high drives. So I set up and focus on a point 6-8” directly behind the ball and let ‘er rip. I’m sure that subconsciously I’m adjusting my body to the left but it seems to be working.


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Yeah that's exactly what the video describes doing. Glad it's working for you!

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On 7/17/2019 at 7:45 AM, MattF said:

This sort of makes sense to me. I've got a tee time on Saturday and am going to try this on the range before I head out.

Well, I tried it and I have to say it helps, a lot. I still put a few over to the right but it was nowhere near as bad as it has been. I'll be using this set up for the driver for the foreseeable future.

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Well, I tried it and I have to say it helps, a lot. I still put a few over to the right but it was nowhere near as bad as it has been. I'll be using this set up for the driver for the foreseeable future.

I am thrilled that a thread I started lead to a reply by someone that helped your game.

I’ve never been a great driver, but these last few weeks I have been.


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On 7/16/2019 at 9:20 AM, russtopherb said:

There's an older YouTube video about the driver that's aimed at chronic slicers that talks about setting up with the driver in the middle of your stance and just letting the ball get in the way of a full swing. I remember watching it a few times when I was fighting a banana slice and the concept made a lot of sense to me. 

I used to video my swing but I found that I would then go apply a million tips I found on the Internet and none of them would ever work for more than a range session or two. So I just stick with the basics that I learned over a few lessons with a former mini-tour player and they do OK for me. My biggest issue, like yours Rick, is just not enough time out on the actual course vs. being a range rat.

This makes sense. Very simple concept. I have been struggling with driver, and this seems to be a simple thing to try. 

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This makes sense. Very simple concept. I have been struggling with driver, and this seems to be a simple thing to try. 


Full disclosure - I still have a two way miss However this setup/drill worked for me because I still suffer from massive hit impulse at times. When that happens I go back to this for a bit to remember to focus on the full swing, not hitting the ball. Having the decoy or just something else to focus on is a big help.


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Wow I like this tip because swaying is big problem at times! I’ll try this tomorrow🏌️♂️


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1 hour ago, russtopherb said:

 


Full disclosure - I still have a two way miss emoji1787.png However this setup/drill worked for me because I still suffer from massive hit impulse at times. When that happens I go back to this for a bit to remember to focus on the full swing, not hitting the ball. Having the decoy or just something else to focus on is a big help.


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My driver swing is bad. I have hit driver 3 times in the last 12 rounds, 1 into a penalty area to the left, 1 down the middle, and 1 left of the fairway got a good bounce and stayed out of the trees. This drill seems simple enough to follow, in that it makes sense from a driver swing standpoint. You want to hit up on the ball, which means you have to keep your center behind the ball. By setting up with your center behind the ball and using a dummy focal point it seems like it will allow for a full swing without “hitting” the ball, rather the ball getting in the way of the swing.

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I'll reiterate...it works. Give it a go and see how you do...I'm a believer.

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2 hours ago, MattF said:

I'll reiterate...it works. Give it a go and see how you do...I'm a believer.

I plan on giving this a go tonight. 

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On ‎7‎/‎16‎/‎2019 at 9:20 AM, russtopherb said:

There's an older YouTube video about the driver that's aimed at chronic slicers that talks about setting up with the driver in the middle of your stance and just letting the ball get in the way of a full swing. I remember watching it a few times when I was fighting a banana slice and the concept made a lot of sense to me. 

I used to video my swing but I found that I would then go apply a million tips I found on the Internet and none of them would ever work for more than a range session or two. So I just stick with the basics that I learned over a few lessons with a former mini-tour player and they do OK for me. My biggest issue, like yours Rick, is just not enough time out on the actual course vs. being a range rat.

Morning fellas - Thanks for posting this video....it REALLY helped me. First, I'm 49 and have a 9.6 Handicap. I've been struggling with my Driver for the past few weeks. Low and left, which is not normal for me at all. My tempo would get out of whack, causing me to swing harder and harder which just caused things to get worse as the round went on.

Went to the range after work and really focused on staying relaxed and generating a good swing tempo. My swing thought was simply keeping tempo in check. I used another "tip" from a thread here, which was to repeat "Ernie Els"....Ernie in the backswing and Els in the downswing.

Didn't get to hit my driver on the range, as tees were all the way forward....but I was bouncing my 3 wood off the net with a nice little draw.

Decided to try the driver....so I went to the course and played a few holes. Played 4 holes and hit 2 drives per hole using the direction from this video and using the "Ernie Els" swing thought. Absolutely crushed all 8 right down my target line with a slight right to left (5 yards) draw!!!

Really excited about this, as the rest of my game has been pretty solid and looking to get my handicap consistently back down around 6.

So, again, thanks Russtopherb for posting up this video!

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I tried this, and i believe this will work, however, my driver swing is so bad right now, I don’t even feel like I can hit the ball at this point. I have used the driver a few times so I am getting the feel of the swing back, but I don’t think I can really use this method when I feel completely out of sorts. 

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