Golfspy_CG2 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Lynx Golf announced it's return to the US Market earlier this year. To help spread the word, Lynx offered up 4 sets of it's Black Cat and 4 sets of it's Prowler VT irons to testers of tMYGolfSpy. These testers will be sharing their thoughts with you on everything regarding these irons. They'll begin with a bio of themselves and their games so you can see which tester might most resemble your playing ability and some initial thoughts on the looks of the clubs fresh out of the boxes from the UK. Over the next six weeks or so, they will be returning to the thread to share their thoughts and answer any specific questions you may have about the irons, so check back here regularly to see how they are performing for the testers. Testers for the Black Cats are @knightsofnii Stage 1 Stage 2 @JimNantzsToast Stage 1 Stage 2 @kardboard.kid Stage 1 Stage 2 @daviddvm Stage 1 Stage 2 Prowler VT Testers are: @Jmikecpa Stage 1 Stage 2 @JudgeSmails Stage 1 Stage 2 @azstu324 Stage 1 Stage 2 @blackngold_blood Stage 1 Stage 2 JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_BNG, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post knightsofnii Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 Lynx Black Cat Review: Stage 1 Hi! My name is Doug. I live in New Jersey with my wife and dog. I'm a mechanical engineer by day, and I also own a snowboard brand with a friend. Golf became part of my life later on. I didn't actually get into golf until 2011 when my office held an outing. I had a blast, I've been hooked since that day! This is my second review this season! I've been getting quite lucky, and I'm extremely fortunate for this opportunity. Check out my Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus4 Review. I’m a 19 handicap. This year’s scores state a trend toward 17. I’m shooting mid to low 90s on a tough course on occasion. My tempo is medium. My driver swing speed is about 95mph. My swing has an over-the-top move that I cannot shake. My ball flight is typically a left to right fade off the tee, sometimes a slice or a pull. Irons are relatively straight, with a high ball flight. I just made a swing change after a chance range shot sent a ball soaring. I'm hinging more at the top and focusing on whipping the club. The resultant swing path is still OTT but on a plane that is far less left. The club head is traveling through the ball down range, rather than across the ball. I still hit bad shots, but it seems my bad mishits have been reduced. I’m hitting an 8i for a 150yd shot, when I was previously at a 6 or 7i. Here’s a vid of my swing. My current bag consists (prior to test) of: Cobra Fly-Z+ at 10.0D. Cobra BioCell 3/4w at 16° Cobra AMP 3H 19° Cobra BioCell 4/5h at 23.5° Wilson C300 cast 6-PW, Graphite R shafts Cleveland Rotex CB 50°/08° Taylormade ZTP 56°/16° Walter Hagen putter I won the C300s from MGS in their end of year donor raffle! This was my jumpstart into my forum activity and being more involved. I figured I had an opportunity to write an unofficial review of the C300s. They have graphite shafts which are now a pinch whippy but the ball soars high and far. I was not fit for these as I won them. I have since regripped them when I was picked for a grip review. I cut 3/8 in. off the ends during the regrip. The new grips and reduced length made them more comfortable and easier to hit. I also have Mizuno JPX 825 Pros, and Cobra AMP Cell Pros. I was playing the Mizunos prior to the C300s. The 'Cats are most comparable in shape to my Wilsons, with perhaps a little more bounce. I'll get to a shop soon to find comparable irons. My guess was PING G700 or Callaway's hollow body irons are comparable. However, these have lofts that are much weaker. That being said: Below are the specs for the Black Cats. They were provided to me via email. They responded immediately with the info I requested. (Their web site still shows the specs for their prior generation Black Cat irons). Fitting was unavailable for these irons, so once we knew the Cats would have KBS Tour 90s, I checked the KBS site which stated the Tour 90 R was their recommended shaft. Since my swing change (after ordering), the new recommended shaft is the Tour R+. The Tour R+ is a 115 gram shaft vs. the 95 gram Tour 90 R. I initially thought they were the same with different flex. I hope the difference is not so great. The 90R doesn't feel too light or whippy, and it should be a little stiffer since it is shortened. I ordered mine 1/2" short, 1° flat lie, KBS Tour 90 R shafts, and medium Lamkin grips, logo down. They appear to have done as requested. Though, the lies look more upright. Both the grip and the shaft are logo-down, a really nice feature: totally unmarked clubs from address. First impressions: The packaging was horrifying. The box at some point was opened, and re-taped with just two pieces of clear tape. The box was actually open on one end with noticeable impact damage. Somehow, the clubs appear absolutely fine! I didn’t see any indication that Fedex opened it to inspect. Since this was a custom order, my guess is they were opened to modify and then resealed badly. The heads were covered in protective paper but no extra packing material was added. The appearance is stunning. The black PVD heads with black logo-down grips and chrome logo-down shafts is awesome. The green cat-eye logo looks great, along with the smaller name badge. I wonder how well these will stick after a few hundred swings. The white paint fill in the grooves is inconsistent. Some appear filled more than others. This has been reported in other reviews. It doesn't seem distracting though. The 9i has a nick/scuff above one of the grooves. Initially they look amazing; though, I wonder how they will age. Lynx Claims versus my first impression: So far my first impression is: what are these, and what are they intended to do? The website still has their prior version info. Colin Fairweather Golf from the UK states: A review on todaysgolfer.co.uk states these irons are "Designed primarily with the dedicated golfer in mind...A carefully crafted 2-piece head includes a beautiful, forged steel face, hollow body with polymer filling for enhanced feel and progressive face thickness for forgiveness. This winning combination produces superb feel, distance and control and offers playability for the better golfer." Another email from the Lynx rep states "These irons are forgiving, with a slight offset and high launch. So the player profile is for mid- high handicappers." A video of a Lynx rep states they're for every golfer! So confusing. I suppose it will be up to us to figure it out. The thicker top line and slightly more face width, as well as the larger sole, leads me to believe these are a bit into the Game Improvement category and a bit less of a Players' Distance iron. The offset is also noticeable in the 8, 7, and 6i, but not too abrupt. However, the weaker lofts are even weaker than every one of the MGS Most Wanted Players Distance Irons! Compare the ‘Cats to lofts of the MGS Most Wanted Players Irons. Furthermore, they are available with R flex steel and R flex graphite? We might be blazing a new trail: Player's distance high launch game improvement? Champions' Tour spec? Shot straightening AND shaping tech? Hollow body high launchers that provide more distance and forgiveness via material thickness, WITH stopping power? What should I expect? When these 'Cats are uncaged, will they be wild uncontrollable beasts, flag hunting precision predators that bite when I misbehave, or cute, toned down kittens that only hit high and straight? As I get more comfortable will I be able to hit different shots? I can go over trees, can I go under or around them? And, will they do things consistently? I have questions . I have hit these and played a few rounds so far. It’s too soon to draw any conclusions but so far I’ve not lost any distance. Check out how the first swing went! Haha. Thanks everyone! JohnSmalls, sirchunksalot, daviddvm and 13 others 16 Quote RADspeed 10.5, Motore X F3 R Bio Cell 3/4w, Project X PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. Aldila RIP 70 R; King Utility 4i, UST Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap S 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), Project X LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightsofnii Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Lynx Black Cat Irons– Stage 2 Review by knightsofnii 9/12/19 It’s fall of 2011, right around this time. I’m a mechanical-engineer for a large organization. I help design new products and modernize old products. My personal focus is on safety. I do a lot of 3D modeling with CAD systems. An invite went out to the branch for a golf outing. I’ve hit the range a few times in my 20’s and played a par-3 course once. I have old Spalding clubs with Persimmon woods. But, it’s been 15 plus years. “Don’t worry, you’ll be fine!” My division manager is partnered with me in a 2 person scramble. He lent me a metal driver, and helped me with my swing. I played poorly, but I did have a few nice shots! I was hooked. I bought a new starter-set from Dick’s Sporting Goods. I got a discount card to Crystal Springs Golf Resorts: 7 courses in my area of northern NJ. I’d play their cheaper courses as often as I could. By the following year, I acquired a new Taylormade Burner driver and Mizuno JPX 825 irons. During that time, I met my wife, Michelle, who also golfs. Our first date (7 years ago today, 9/12!) was at a range. Our five year anniversary is tomorrow. She loves skiing, and I love snowboarding. I—love—snowboarding. A friend and I own a small snowboard brand. We build the boards ourselves. We sell a handful of production decks, and a couple customs per year. It’s difficult, but very rewarding work. In 2011, Lynx was cheap discount balls, and starter-sets at Dick’s or Golfsmith. I never gave Lynx much thought. I had seen photos and videos of Tour pros hitting shots, wearing Lynx hats. “If only Fred Couples had good equipment!” I thought. Little did I know, Lynx was a top notch brand. I feel they’re on their way back—definitely trending upward. For testing I did some range sessions at my course to see if there was any tangible difference that I could find between these, my Wilsons, Mizunos, and Cobras. I could not detect any distance differences. If anything, these fly a few feet higher and have a pinch more hang-time. I was able to achieve this with all my clubs given enough shots; but, the Cats seem to repeat this high-hanging shot more. I needed numbers. I spent an hour on PGA Tour Superstore's practice bay in Paramus, NJ. To save the shot data, I took a video while toggling through each shot recorded. At home, I entered all the shots into Excel for comparisons. I purchased Arccos for my birthday, to help track shots on the course, and see if there are any trends. I also played the back 9 of my course with just irons and wedges. This got me some more shot data and also familiarized me with my 5i. Looks (9 of 10 points) General Shape: The top-line is thick. They’re definitely GI clubs dimensionally. But, the hollow-body blade-like-shape looks nice when in the bag. Standing over them at address, the thick topline is noticeable, but the face shape seems slightly compact vs. GI irons. They definitely look the part of a hollow-body club designed for forgiveness. The offset is noticeable, but not overbearing like some other GI clubs I've tried. The offset gets more pronounced on the long-iron end. The 5i definitely has more offset than I'd like. But, it did not seem to affect my shots. After some swings with each, I was comfortable with the shapes. After hitting consistently good and acceptable shots with them, I had forgotten all about offset and topline. I want to subtract a point for top line and offset but I really can't. I was expecting a more forgiving, GI version of the Prowler-VT, and I think GI shaping is just a rule-of-thumb for that. However, I don't think it's overdone. The lofts are higher per club, to the point where the 7i to 5i are probably one club weaker than most clubs available except for players clubs (my Cobra AMP Cell Pro MB’s have comparable lofts). But, even Players-Distance clubs have stronger lofts. Though it puts the Cats at a disadvantage in comparison, I think their goal was to use the technology itself, not the loft, to improve distance, while retaining spin rates, and—an added bonus—turf interaction. They also have greater bounce angles that coincide with the lofts. The face has less rounding and chamfering about the edge compared to my other irons, giving it a sharper, but slightly chunkier look. The grooves appear thinner, and the paint-fill within them is inconsistent. The rest of the shape is consistent with other hollow-body GI and Players-Distance irons. Graphics: The black face and body with overlays is quite nice. They definitely look different in the bag. The black head, logo down all black grip, and bare chrome shaft (also logo down) is a stunning look. They are definitely flashy, though nobody has asked me about them. The green Arccos sensors installed perfectly match the green graphics on the heads. I would subtract a point for inconsistent paint fill in the grooves; but, over time the paint fill irregularities seem to be blended out from wear. The black PVD finish scratches easily, and about the leading edge on my short irons, it is wearing off. Ignore the vertical scratches on the PW, I scrubbed the head with a dirty brush; however, that shows its susceptibility to scratches. Bag chatter or something else has created a tiny dent in the top edge of my PW. I don’t think it’s affecting performance in any way. All in all, I put these clubs through the ringer. I did not clean them, they chattered all over the place, I probably hit tree roots and stones under the turf. I think they are mostly victims of “normal wear and tear”. The finish still looks really good, albeit scratched up. A perfect-ten would come if they figure out a way to apply black in a wear-resistant form. If you dig black and you’re also a nerd about keeping your clubs fancy, get head covers. Sound & Feel (10 of 10 points) The sound is smooth. I notice no real difference in sound between solid strikes and mishits. I don't really know how to describe that middle-road between a cracking and a thumping sound, it has a good blend of both. There are no sonic quirks. Looking back, a sound that is "nothing to write home about" is a positive: it isn’t annoying nor troubling. My new driver’s metallic crack on every swing is ear-piercing. The feel is one aspect that stands out. I have some forged MB’s and CB’s. When you hit those dead-center, you know and feel it. The Black Cats feel better. That that "damn I nailed that!" feeling happens often. I feel the ball compress, the face flex, the shaft deflect, and the grip dampen all at once for that split second. Verification comes when I look up and see the ball traveling up and away. I hit a few tee-shots directly into the sun. Based on feel and the first foot of trajectory, I could tell I nailed it, and walked up the fairway, finding the ball dead-center. My Wilsons, though very forgiving, feel quite opposite. They are often that harsh, stinger feel, even when just barely mishit. Only perfectly struck shots replicate any type of positive feel. I can say without hesitation, the Cats are the best feeling iron I have hit. Mishits are pronounced when mis-hit: like that "oh I thinned it!" shot that goes low and rockets away. Off the toe the feel is muted a little as well as off the heel. The thin shots are definite stingers if they come off near the blade. Fat shots are muted similarly to toes and heels. Anything within probably 1cm to dead-center has a nice butter feeling. This photo shows 3 consecutive toe-bias shots. All 3 felt awesome. Any shot inside of those marks felt incredible. I’d give 11 for sound and feel, because the sound is normal but the feel is amazing. Basic Characteristics (18 out of 20 points) Dispersion on the range seemed better with the Cats vs. the Wilsons and Cobras. Launch data shows less side spin, more backspin, and less roll vs the Wilsons. I believe due to these aspects, and on-course verification of witnessing the incredible ball-stoppage, I am confident the Cats will show a tighter dispersion. Distance is less than Wilsons but better than the MB Cobras, which makes sense due to the lofts. The distance still feels good. They seem consistent. The Wilsons are long. Distance gapping of the Cats is consistent. Arccos does not really reflect this, as it is taking into consideration some of the fat and thin shots, shots into wind, uphill, etc. I can aim at a 145yd pin with the 8i, take my standard shot, and have confidence it will be somewhere pin-high. If it’s a 150-155 yd pin, I can choke down on the 7i, or adjust my 8i swing for a slight draw, giving it a few more feet of travel and 2-3 more feet of roll. Trajectory is very high. Stingers are mid to low, but slight thinned shots are still mid-high. Shots into the wind do get punished, and I definitely have to club up. Shots uphill work nicely, and still land soft. I am not used to having the ball stop so easily. Forgiveness: Toe and heel are not punished if hit inside the sweet spot. They do penalize me when more toward the perimeter. Occasionally I'll get a toed or slight pull that ends up left and probably 10yds further than intended. The blocked shot usually falls short. These are the extreme of the mishits though. I think the most punishing of them is the thin shot, which usually just rockets and then rolls. I hit my 9i 165 the other day when I thinned it. Only the fattest of fat shots really hurt. Slight fat shots fall short but not too bad. Control: I don't think there’s a club that is point-and-shoot. I think these get the ball up into the air and can go far, but you still need to put a good swing on them. I think they do a better job at hitting straight high shots than a players club, while maintaining some of that players club positive characteristics like being able to stop the ball. Players-Forgiveness or Players-Game-Restoration are two new category titles that come to mind. The control aspect that I love is seeing the ball stop. The steep descent angles and high spin really applies the brakes. I can hit my Vice Drive logo balls, Tour B300-RX, Tour-BX, Pro-V1, Warbirds... they all stop, dead. Applying a solid swing, and nailing the distance, is my main focus. 6i hits and stops inside 7-8'. I've gotten the 5i to stop. This was a 6i from the rough. Workability: Stock shot-shape is high and drops near the target. I can aim at flags when there are trees down-range in the way. On the range, I’m able to hit straight, fade, and draw. The draw for me is tougher and can be more of a mid-high penetrating straight flight. The fade is high but comes short. To fade the ball around something, I would club up. Mainly, as a high handicap, I'm focused on the straight ball, and accept a 1-2yd fade or draw when they come. To hit a lower shot, I'm better off clubbing up, choking down, and hitting my "Bryson shot" (stiff arms, all body). Yesterday I kept a 55yd pitch shot below tree branches by choking down and hooding the PW, with a half-swing. These things just want to go high. On-Course Performance (25 out of 30 points) On high-pressure shots, these definitely are not holding me back! I feel confident with these clubs and know under most circumstances, it's going down-range. “It’s not the arrows…” has never been truer. I feel I’m experiencing a reduced occurrence of mishits punishing me. Mishits seem to end up leaving me favorable recovery shots, like not going half distance but ending up near the green. My 9-6 irons are hitting and holding greens. I can hit the 5i and get it up and away. They are performing well on sand shots. When struck well out of a fairway bunker, they produce a similar flight to my fairway shots. Fliers out of the rough have been minimal. I did have one 6i from the rough that knuckle-balled and wobbled; but, it went the intended distance, and parked hole-high. Due to the high trajectory I had better luck when attempting to go over obstacles. But, as I’ve said, my swing produces high shots with all of my clubs, and all irons. I just haven’t worked out the punch-shots just yet, and it’s possible that my old swing may now be my punch-shot. I don’t have enough data to know if the KBS Tour 90R shafts are contributing to the height and trajectory. I hope Lynx creates a 7i demo club hosel so people can try other shafts. I do like the high, soft landing shots; and I feel that for me, the increase in GIR will balance out positively vs. any loss in lowering the ball-flight. Final Performance Comments: I’m hitting greens and holding them. I can aim at pins with short-irons. I can aim at the center and hit greens with long-irons. Everything stops. I can hit center-green with the 5i and get it to stop before going off the back. That’s what happens when real technology is applied to proper lofts, I suppose. There’s no gimmicky jargon as a masquerade for jacked lofts. I didn’t know the Lynx of old, I knew the cheap value-brand version of the early 2010’s. Today’s Lynx clubs seem to be a much better effort and prove that they can hang with known commercial alternatives. They’re using current tech such as attaching a forged face to a hollow body, filling with dampening material, and altering face thicknesses to maximize COR and MOI. This allows them to have a super-hot and very forgiving face, and rather than strengthen lofts and say "they launch high", they use the hot face as the advantage and keep the lofts high, thus retaining high spin. I think, in this way, they can carve a niche. I bet there are 1-handicappers out there that will fall off and become 6's, and will want to retain the blade/mb properties as much as possible, but will want help with mishits. These clubs will do that. I bet there are high handicappers like myself, who are improving, but want their irons to stop the ball. Distance isn't everything, I know how far these clubs will carry, and stop or roll a couple feet. My GIRs are increasing and I still have GI properties in the club. To improve this model: Figure out another way to get black finish, maybe anodizing or heat treatment. Make the grooves larger, they don’t inspire confidence visually, though they seem to work! Try to thin and round the top-line more. Figure out the paint issues with the grooves. Offer more shaft options for personalizing flight. Add X, Sr, A, and L flexes. Add a 50 degree gap wedge. Provide a distinct description of characteristics vs. who the target golfer is—it’s still vague. Are they really for everyone? Can a low handicap get over the clunkiness when they see the "Cat Claws ™” technology take hold and stop the ball? Can they accept they can’t hook or slice them as much as blades, but retain loft characteristics as an alternative to Players-Distance clubs? I think some can. I think Lynx needs to include this; but also state why they are good for mid and high handicappers. The traditional lofts and bounce characteristics are standouts. Turf interaction is great. Fat shots still hit the ball out moderately, whereas a more digging club would penalize fats far more. A distance and shot helping iron that spins the ball is not common, if at all offered anywhere else. I do love the black, I just want it to resist wear. Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points) Packaging was an issue, but I lucked out. As I said in stage 1, the box was opened, poorly re-taped, and damaged. Nobody knows the cause. Did the courier do it? Did the USA Lynx reps do it? We know Lynx HQ is investigating that issue. I appreciate that they have interest in us and are addressing feedback. In the end my clubs were not damaged, so I'm not worried and I'm confident they’ll solve the case. Add a point back for their customer service. They responded to my emails promptly (i didn’t tell them who I was) with info I requested. The owners sent us statements apologizing for the packaging issue, they seem to have great interest in this review; and, to offer up 8 full iron-sets to amateurs is characteristic of a top-notch company willing to take the proper steps to take it to the next level. My grip/shaft logo-down option looks awesome. They will do what you ask. I bet an actual buyer could request shafts and they would accommodate (based on price difference of course). Play it or Trade it? (18 out of 20 points) Play it! They fly high, and they hold greens! The other day I hit the 7i, downhill, 175, over trees, and it hit a back-sloping green and stopped dead, from the rough. I can't tell you any other GI club I'd be confident taking that shot with. You will see photos all over this thread of bomb-holes in the green, and the ball inside 4 feet of it. It happens all-the-time. I need to figure out a low flying shot, but like I said, I believe that to be me and not the clubs. Basically: club up, choke down, hit with less power. Looks do matter, and they do have a bit of the chunky GI type shape. But based on experience, now when I stand over the ball and look down at the club-head, I have confidence in my ability. Conclusion Game-improvement irons today focus on distance, straightness, and launch-angle; but, it seems to be at the expense of what happens when the landing-gear is deployed. Your 8i can fly 155 and you're using it for a 160-170 pin. That's rad. This 8i will fly 145-150, and stop. Dead. Aim directly at the flag. Look at the number on your scope, it will do it--no math. Just pick the right club. Spend a few days getting your carry distances, and watch your scores drop. Is it really that simple? No, but I'm sure the GIR percentage will increase. Lynx claims these are for everyone. I would say every golfer can find potential in these clubs. A low handicapper may find solace knowing these can stick greens because they don’t give up spin. A high handicapper may enjoy the high launch, easy to get airborne characteristics, and confidence in 1-3 more GIR per round. The feel is amazing and on slight mishits is also excellent. I think these would score lower on distance if they were in a MGS Most wanted. I think they would get a "most forgiving" or some other "mini-award" within the contest for things like feel, spin, or value. They would score low on finish wear and people might find issue with the thin grooves, even if they don't seem to negatively affect flight. Final Score: (90 out of 100) *************************************** I wish to show my gratitude to MGS Staff, Lynx, donors, and message board members. This all started with a donation, a lot of “pick me” posts, and settling in and getting engaged in some of the content. Getting the chance to review equipment is an honor. It is also very fun; and, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t doing a little showboating... haha. Two product reviews for 2019… thanks so much! Edited September 13, 2019 by knightsofnii Stage 2 up!! HardcoreLooper, fixyurdivot, MattF and 6 others 9 Quote RADspeed 10.5, Motore X F3 R Bio Cell 3/4w, Project X PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. Aldila RIP 70 R; King Utility 4i, UST Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap S 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), Project X LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JimNantzsToast Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Stage 1 Personal Questions: The black cat likes the Black Cats!^ Hey everyone, my name is Alex, and I am extremely excited to be chosen as a tester for MGS and Lynx! Growing up in Maryland, I played lacrosse and hockey (ice and roller) 6-7 days a week on various club and school teams – and probably played golf once or twice a year in high school. I started getting much more into golf in college, where I was able to play all the time for low low student prices. That was about 6 years ago, and I’ve been doing my best to play weekly (weather permitting) ever since. I am currently playing in the Richmond, VA area, and just joined Meadowbrook CC south of the city. About a year ago I started to become more serious about my game, had a few lessons, and am starting to figure out some swing troubles I have had since way back when. Generally I am the type of golfer who will have a great day driving the ball, but miss-hit everything else OR vice-versa. The classic “woods, irons, and putter: pick 2 to hit well” situation. My favorite thing about golf is how frustrating it is, and how rewarding it is to figure something out, make a tweak, and see the results right in front of you. The competition doesn’t hurt either. Golf Questions: My handicap hovers between 13-16. My typical miss is currently changing, as I have been taking some lessons. BUT my biggest issue is swing path. I have an over the top out-to-in path that I am trying to correct. So slices to the right or pulls to the left were commonplace. Now my typical miss is either a pure slice where I let myself go back to the old swing, or an overcorrected hook/draw. I’ll pull out a 7 iron to hit a 150 yard shot, my ball flight is typically high, maybe mid/high. I’m beginning to realize the strength in my game is actually mental toughness. I am just now seeing how one bad shot will DESTROY the entirety of most of my friend’s games – for sure not the case for me. My weakness has always been consistency. My irons have been pretty interesting in the past few years. I own Adams Idea Pro Black Forged cb2 irons, and Cobra King F8 irons. Both kind of just fell into my lap with really great deals. I had never been fit for clubs before this experience. When I was selected to be a tester for the Black Cats, I went to Mulligans Golf Shop in the Richmond area (http://mulligansgolfshopva.com/) I would highly recommend seeing Matt there – super nice guy, very knowledgeable, and has all the newest equipment (I want to go check out the Mizuno line he has). Matt hooked me up to the Mizuno Shaft Optimizer, had me take a bunch of swings, and it spit out a bunch of statistics to his iPad where we talked through shaft options, flex profiles, lie adjustments, everything. I took those details to Lynx for my order. Typical Driver SS: 100-105 Iron/shaft specs: KBS Stiff shafts 1* upright +.25" First Impressions (I had the 8 and 9 irons mixed up in these pictures^) These pictures are to show the "black" color, set against a black visor 7 iron Foam port, 7 iron^ According to their website, the Black Cats are hollow body, foam filled irons (similar to the Taylormade p-790 and Ping G500?). Generally, these irons are supposed to have more of a players-iron shape, game-improvement iron forgiveness, and the foam is supposed to improve feedback and feel. This type of iron is something I’ve had my eye on for a while, and I think this would be perfect for a player of my skill level. My current Cobra King F8 irons are a little lacking in feel. The 5-7 irons are hollow body (non filled), and it pretty much feels like nothing if you hit it perfectly, and like you hit a rock if you miss-hit. So I’ll be looking for any kind of “feel” property that may come through with the foam filling (I’ll be able to compare this to my forged Adams irons). I was a little irritated they did not provide the gap wedge I requested. so I am still using the gap wedge from my Cobra set. After reviewing what the irons are “supposed to be” and looking them over (playing a few rounds with them) – here is what I’ll be especially looking for: The lofts of the Black Cats are much more “traditional” and similar to my old Adams Irons. Will I lose any distance? Maybe gain some? The grooves seem very shallow compared to my Cobra irons, will I be able to spin the irons similarly? Any impact at all? If these irons can be more forgiving (go similar distance on thin/fat/toe/heel shots) AND go at least similar distance when compared to the cobras, they will be the new irons in my bag! My testing will be conducted mostly on the course, and at the First Tee of Richmond. Hopefully I can get down to the MGS HQ and use some of their launch monitors to get some real data. I look forward to this process, and let me know if you have any other questions for me, I’d love to give my insight wherever possible. Edited July 28, 2019 by JimNantzsToast added shaft/lie adjustments Nunfa0, azstu324, StrokerAce and 13 others 16 Quote Tommy Armour 845 10.5* Rogue 3W King F7 5W Sub70 939 3H Lynx Black Cat // King F8 5i-GW Tour-S 54*/12* Adams Tom Watson 58*/8* Tommy Armour 303 Milled Habanero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimNantzsToast Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Stage 2 Intro I’m back! In my stage 1 review, I mentioned that I may be able to get down to the MGS Compound to do some testing. Unfortunately that was not possible for me. The bright side, is that all of my testing was done on the golf course, and on multiple driving ranges. I played over 15 rounds of golf, and had at least that many range sessions. During some of these sessions, I compared the Lynx Black Cats to my other sets of irons, the Cobra King F8, and Adams Pro Black CB irons. Looks (6 out of 10 points) Overall, I like the general shape of the Black Cats. I think the best looking iron I have owned are the Adams Idea Pro Black CB irons (pictures below), but the Black Cat looks just slightly game-improvement-y than most game improvement irons. The topline doesn’t seem quite as thick as the Cobra irons, or Taylormade irons some of my playing partners have. I really dislike the graphics. I think the knock-off Ping “eye” graphic, the “bedazzled” silver, and the neon-ish green look cheap and tacky. That being said, the black finish looks good (not very durable), and the overall profile of the club (if you take out the green and silver) has great potential to look really good. I have had a few people ask me about the irons in my bag, but only barely more than normal (one or two times in the last few months). Sound & Feel (8 out of 10 points) I really like the sound and feel of these irons. They sound somewhat more muted than the Cobra irons, and definitely feel softer. The best comparison/explanation I can say is this: on most GI irons, or SGI irons, I have had very small amounts of feel. Pretty much they feel like almost nothing if you have a good ball strike, and a little harsher feeling on mis-hits. With the Black Cats, I believe the feel is exceptional, close to the amount of feedback offered in my Adams Idea Pro Black CB1 Forged irons. A perfectly struck ball still has a bit of feeling to it, you can feel the face flex, it’s very satisfying. But a bad ball strike doesn’t feel too harsh, but you can really tell if it’s a toe/heel, fat/thin shot – which is great. Basic Characteristics (16 out of 20 points) Accuracy: These irons are incredibly consistent. Miss hits on the toe, heel, fat or thin all travel a reasonably similar distance. The spin of these irons is interesting – as I mentioned in stage 1. They don’t spin back at all, rather hit the green, and end up within a few feet of the divot (depending how you struck the ball – draw/fade). Distance: Probably the worst attribute of the Black Cats. I have lost about a half a club of distance with each iron. Before I received the Lynx irons, my swing had improved drastically, I used to hit my 7 iron 145 yards, I was hitting it closer to 155. As soon as I received the Black Cats, that distance dropped again to right about 145 yards. The only “positive” to this goes back to the spin of these, the ball just stops wherever it lands on the green, so they are very predictable. These irons have a high trajectory, there’s no question about it. I’d say slightly higher than the Cobra F8. I’m impressed with the workability for the Black Cats, especially for how forgiving they are. I have hit hooks and slices (on purpose) to get out of bad spots with these. This comes much easier than with the Cobra F8 irons (except for the F8 gap wedge – which has way less “GI technology”). On-Course Performance (25 out of 30 points) This is where these irons shine. That should be all that matters right? I have shot consistently under 90 more with these irons than any other time in my illustrious golfing career. I also shot my all time best 81 with these irons. Once I got used to the slight distance loss, and dialed in the spin characteristics, they are a very accurate iron. My biggest gripe with the on-course performance is the 6 iron. For some odd reason, after 20 ish rounds with these irons, I only just recently was able to hit the 6 iron with any confidence, consistency, or success. I do not have this issue with the 5 iron or any others in the set, which makes it a little more curious. I am very confident hitting these irons under pressure, it there’s money on the line between buddies, or an island green on a par 3 – I have never been more confident in where the ball will land. Again, I really wish these Cats had some more distance in them. I’m sure as my swing progresses, and I get better, I’ll be able to get some more distance out of them, but as of now – it’s not there, and I have to rely more on my woods and hybrids from long distance. What I’d love to see coming up on any future iterations on the Black Cat: A little bit of loft-jacking. I’m not talking crazy amounts like the new TA irons, or some Callaway models, but something a little bit stronger would go a long way. Obviously, if you’ve read this far, you know I am not a fan of the looks of the iron. More subtlety would be awesome, no knock off ping “eye, no bedazzled silver, and a higher quality black finish would be phenomenal. Miscellaneous (2 out of 10 points) A few things about these irons that don’t fit anywhere else: The packaging was really cheap and awful looking (well documented by others here). The grooves feel really really shallow, which may be why they don’t seem to spin too much. But also may be why they are more forgiving (less spin in general). But the biggest thing is they didn’t include the Gap Wedge I requested. This isn’t a huge deal because… they are “free” clubs. But we were all under the impression that we could outfit the set how we saw fit. I know some testers here were adamant about “logo down” on everything, or had extreme specifics on how they wanted their irons customized. Their site advertises the gap wedge as available, if we asked for it, why not send one? I kept my F8 GW in my bag for the duration of this test, and that is really the only thing holding me back from 100% switching to the Lynx irons – I play with it so well, it’s allowing some questions to seep into my mind about maybe the Cobra’s are really great too. Play it or Trade it? (19 out of 20 points) These irons will be in my bag moving forward. I am proving that by using them for my tournament on Monday. They have proven that I play my best with these clubs in my bag, with my best and most consistent scores ever coming directly from these Black Cats! I think they are very fairly priced, but will likely be overlooked due to the distance problem that I (and I’m sure others) have – which will be destroyed on a launch monitor battle. And I’m sure I’m not the only one who thinks they do not look very nice. I really like these, and they will stay with me for the time being. The gap wedge issue may be a blessing in disguise, so I can consider one of the new awesome looking wedges coming out, the new Ping Glide, CBX, Jaws, and the rumors of the Kirkland weges! Conclusion I really like these irons. They are incredibly consistent, feel great, and instill confidence. They are the ugliest iron I’ve had (or used), and do not go as far as I’d like them to. But overall the consistency really makes them worth the price of admission, the only way they get kicked out is if I can find an iron that matches the consistency and accuracy of the Black Cats, while giving me some more distance. Final Score: 79 (the only real negatives are looks, distance, and miscellaneous) Edited September 15, 2019 by JimNantzsToast russtopherb, knightsofnii, daviddvm and 2 others 5 Quote Tommy Armour 845 10.5* Rogue 3W King F7 5W Sub70 939 3H Lynx Black Cat // King F8 5i-GW Tour-S 54*/12* Adams Tom Watson 58*/8* Tommy Armour 303 Milled Habanero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kardboard.kid Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Stage 1 Placeholder Hello My Golf Spy enthusiasts! This is by far the best place for all things golf on the planet. This is not just because I was chosen to test a “New” set of irons. For those who do not know me…. “Hi I’m Tim and I am a Golf addict”. On the forum I’m known as kardboard.kid, or KK. As of late I have been pretty busy. Work, I am upgrading my design lab, including the install of a new CAD table. Son #1, and fiancé moved into a new place a couple weekends ago, my Daughter in Australia was engaged and their wedding will be next year. (For any father with a young daughter out there…. Start saving half your paycheck now, so you can afford the wedding!) I have 2, one here in the states and one back in Australia a couple months after the first. Son #2 finished his Military duties as a Marine, and will be moving back into our area with his soon to be fiancé this fall. I play golf whenever I can, and I have been a sub for one of our customers leagues, this year having been almost every Thursday. I am not a young man, and my swing (self-taught) is what I know. This last spring, I was fitted for clubs, and those have performed wonderfully for me. My average 18-hole round will be between 95 – 105, with my best round being a 93. My goal this year was to bring that down to an average of 85 – 95. I am not there yet, but Hey, this is golf, and then next round could be it. I live in Central Ohio, and as a result we can get out for soggy golf in April, and usually still have an opportunity for a round end of October. I would say that I have been taking playing golf seriously now for About 15 years, mostly a way for me to spend time with my children. They all like and play golf. My wife on the other hand, puts up with my golf because she loves me, not golf. Her words about me, “obsessed, genuinely in love with, and always striving to improve” I will add a video of my golf swing, although I realized after I watched the video the matt where the ball is placed sits higher than my feet. I usually just hit off the grass, but wanted a clean look for the swing. The result I was a bit choked on the swing. It is close enough to my normal swing that I decided to leave it as is. With my current fit irons, my ball path is high left to right in motion and my 7 iron on average carries 145yds. I always miss to the right, unless I am consciously try to move the ball to the left and close the club face too much. Then all bets are off and the surprise game shows up. I really cannot put into words the reason I am so taken by the game, but I am truly in love with it. So the clubs arrived on my door step in a very beat white box with the Lynx logo on it. I was sure they were all bent like horse shoes, but to my joy all was there and in great shape. Lynx a few years back was a club trusted on the PGA tour, and well known. With all the new startups, it appears Lynx felt it time to bring it’s name and clubs back into the game. Apparently there are not many places that provide the forging needed for clubs, as all the clubs I received had a “Made in China” sticker on them. I have to say that did put me off a bit at first. Mostly because this is a company from the UK, not China. The initial feel of the club was heavy. Compared to the cavity backs I currently play, and the KBS Steel shaft felt strong. Even though they are regular flex, to me after my graphite shafts, felt stiff. The Black Cats look amazing in the black finish and even at address have a nice line. The foam fill head is for better ball control on miss hits. That is something that will be a big plus for me on these. I had also given my fitting information to Lynx so these clubs should be fit for me. Edited July 30, 2019 by kardboard.kid Added some pictures and video GolfSpy_BNG, azstu324, Nunfa0 and 14 others 17 Quote F7+ w/Fujikura Pro XLR8 Graphite Shaft 3-I MPF H-Series3B2M graphite Shaft w/Winn Dri-Tac grip mid STi Irons 5-SW KURO KAGE 70IR Flex-R Lamkin Grips King F6 Hybrid Matrix Red Tie HQ4 Graphite Shaft Forged FGT 60* wedge KURO KAGE 70R SS cross Comfort grip O-Putter 1W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kardboard.kid Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Stage 2 Placeholder Welcome back MGS family for part two of the Lynx Black Cat review. This is a great honor that was afforded me and I hope that this review will do it justice. I would like to reach out and offer my sincere thanks to Lynx, and MGS for this opportunity. As a designer, I know it is not always easy or comfortable when handing a design off for review and critique. So, with that said, let’s get this party started! As you have been made aware Lynx is once more working back onto the golf scene with several new club designs. With excitement I accepted the challenge of reviewing the Black Cat Irons. From the beginning it became clear that Lynx was new, and that there were parts of the ordering process and supply process that they had not yet worked through. This however was offset by the great response given by the personnel at Lynx in addressing different needs and questions. There was even a written response to how our clubs were shipped and arrived to us. That to me puts them in a world class setting. Due to the limited options provided however; (to us the testers), namely the type of shaft and the grip options, I decided to put a twist on the club testing and subsequent review. This past spring, I was fitted with clubs and after playing them a few months was convinced I could break 90, and consistently play in the 80’s by end of summer. When the opportunity of reviewing new irons was offered to me, I decided to put my fit clubs away for the duration of testing. While the clubs I received were built to my fitting requirements, as far as lie angle and length of shaft, the actual shaft was not. So, I decided to do the review as though I had gone to a Sporting Goods store and purchased the clubs off the shelf. My reason? Based on my research, 80 -90% of recreational golfers play clubs that are not fit to them. To me that says 80-90% of golfers buy “off the rack”. For that very large group that feels the need to purchase the “Mall Store” approach, This review is for you. I will try to break my review down to simple terms and descriptions, since this review may inspire or deter you from looking into Lynx golf. Lets quickly review the key areas I will be addressing; Looks, 2. Sound and Feel, 3. Basic Characteristics, 4. On Course performance, 5. Other, 6. Play or Trade, and Conclusion Looks Let me say that these clubs are very flashy. The black finish with colored insert cause people to turn their heads. There were many on the course that I played with that ask about the clubs and even some that wanted to swing them or even hit with them. That is a very important component for the recreational golfer. You want to look the part, even if your score card doesn’t back you up. The club at address does look thick. The insert has color options, but for out testing purpose the clubs were fitted with the same color insert. At address the club looks more like a blade than a cavity back, so you don’t feel your swinging Thor’s Hammer. 9 points out of 10 Sound and Feel The club sound when striking the golf ball is a solid sound. There isn’t any ting, or snap, or empty can sound. I tried to get a good recording of the sound, but my phone was not having any of that. In my video on stage one you can here the clean sound. I don’t think there was ever a different sound no matter where on the face the ball hit. I also noticed that there was no area on the face where the impact was less. By that I mean mishits either side of the club still felt like down the middle strong. That will surely give the golfer confidence in their swing. I found I was also more comfortable with my swing. The down side would be the weight of the head. Even though it may look thinner than the usual cavity back club, it has a definite weight to it. For me that was a problem, combined with the shaft I found my shots did not match my swing. I’ll get into that later on. 5 points out of 10 Basic Characteristics To start, the direction your club hits the ball is the direction the ball will travel. These clubs are built to also have a higher than normal trajectory. What I found was my swing and the clubs did not work well. I am a winter weather sport player from my childhood, so my hockey swing, with wrist action is a constant issue. For those looking to buy a box set online and then go out and play you will be frustrated. My normal shot shape is a left to right easy motion. If I set up shooting the left side of the fairway I can generally put it center of my destination, being next shot into the green or the green. I was very comfortable and confident with that swing. These clubs do not react the same. Partly because the face is so forgiving, and partly because the shaft was different than what I was used to. I started from square one, and spent hours hitting into my practice net in my back yard. For me, and my schedule this was the best option. The down side is I do not currently own a launch monitor, so I do not have imperical data to share. After awhile I was able to find the right swing, and started shaping shots. Unfortunately the other component being the heavy head and high trajectory, I found my shots to be inconsistent. Again for the average golfer with no set swing, and direction for fitting, each shot could become an adventure in itself. The biggest positive on these clubs performance is the distance. Myself, or anyone that hit these clubs found an additional 10 -15 yds carry. The other thing I really want to recognize is the ball reaction off the face. When I started using the clubs on the course, I found I would slip back into my favorite swing. I’d set up hitting left planning on bring the ball back to the right. What happened was the ball shot off left and straight as an arrow continued left. If I tried to aim right and bring the ball back to the left it went right, straight as an arrow. This is a great feature to someone who has one swing, straight up and straight down like a pendulum. There was also as the rounds grew, noticeable wearing and marks on the clubs. This year was especially wet so I was splashing more than hitting hard dry ground. The marks were a surprise for sure. I will add some pictures for you to see. Also clubs bounce a bit in the bag on the cart, and there were some notable chips on the clubs as well. For ball spin, I never noticed the ball stopping quickly, no matter where I hit from or which club I used. More so it was the height of the shot that caused the ball to stop. I left some pretty deep ball marks on the greens, and fairways. Due to the struggles with the clubs, I did not see an improvement with my golf score, and because I wanted to keep the “off the Shelf” review consistent I forced myself not to look into changing shafts, or grips, or anything else. I used the same ball the entire time, well the same ball manufacturer. Callaway Diablo. That took a major variance out of the equation and review. The pressure of no confidence in my club, or swing really caused me to struggle at times. I know I had the right club, distance, and shot shape, but rarely found all three happening at the same time. 10 points out of 20 Miscellaneous I will address this portion as though I was a consumer ordering product on line. Please keep in mind that since this is a review for MGS the OEM basically gave away their product. The packaging when received was a white box with the Lynx logo printed on the center of one panel. As is typical of shipments through the parcel process the box was beat pretty good, and the once clean white box was marked and scuffed. Personally I feel the cost for White verses Kraft box could be spent elsewhere. The product inside was not damaged, and the inner packing proved appropriate. I would have chosen blue inserts, and graphite shafts, and other grips than offered. As stated in the beginning Lynx has been very proactive in response to issues and their overall embarresment of how the package looked when delivered. 9 points out of 10 Play or Trade I have conversed with my son on this. He was a single digit handicap till work took all his time. He said he would love to take the clubs and play them for at least the rest of this year, and then both he and I can talk. I feel that the clubs fell short of what I was looking and hoping for in the current set up. Depending on how they perform for him, they may end up in his bag. I will be putting my Maltby irons back into my bag. I have also decided in the off season to consider going with Irons only next year. I will meet with the club fitters this winter to look at a 1 iron to replace my driver and adding a 3 and 4 iron. I will keep everyone updated regarding these activities. 12 point out of 20 Conclusion Lynx has the potential for breaking into the Cavity Back sector with the Black Cat Irons. The reaction of the golf ball off the club face is very forgiving, providing for a very wide sweet spot. Lynx as a company has gone out of there way to answer concerns and even apologize over issues. The clubs generally added 15 yards carry to every shot, which could be a great asset for those who are of average ability. From the initial opening of the box to see these stylish Black Cats, to the first full swing, the feel was heavy, solid and lengthy. For me with the current set up I was unable to fully appreciate the clubs or their potential, mainly because the ball comes off the face and goes in the direction hit. Shot shape was something I really never was able to pull off. After my son plays them for a bit I will look into have the shaft, grip, changed and very lie angle. These are not gone, or out of the question yet. Just not what I would choose in current configuration. Final score 45 points out of 70 russtopherb, MattF, StrokerAce and 1 other 4 Quote F7+ w/Fujikura Pro XLR8 Graphite Shaft 3-I MPF H-Series3B2M graphite Shaft w/Winn Dri-Tac grip mid STi Irons 5-SW KURO KAGE 70IR Flex-R Lamkin Grips King F6 Hybrid Matrix Red Tie HQ4 Graphite Shaft Forged FGT 60* wedge KURO KAGE 70R SS cross Comfort grip O-Putter 1W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daviddvm Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 LYNX BLACK CAT IRONS Stage 1 Hello, my name is David. I live with my wife and daughter in Houston, TX. I am a veterinarian and accustomed to working with cats, so it is an honor to have been chosen as a tester of the Lynx Black Cat Irons. Growing up in Oklahoma, my Dad gave me a set of Walter Hagen Blades, persimmon woods, and a Gary Player Black Knight Putter. In junior high, I started playing with neighborhood friends. We had no idea what we were doing, but we had fun. (Our favorite part of a round of golf was a root beer float at the turn.) During college, I worked summers on a golf course so I could play. Starting out as a veterinarian, it was difficult for me to find time to play golf. For the last 10 years, I have not had to work as much which has allowed me to play weekly games of golf. I have become more passionate about the game. Last summer, our family was fortunate enough to visit the Monterey Peninsula. I played both Pebble Beach and Spyglass. (I was in heaven but did not have enough money to stay!) Currently my handicap is 15, but my Arccos Caddie after playing 16 rounds list my handicap as 13. I had a swing evaluation last winter at GolfTech. Watching the video allowed me to understand the improper mechanics in my swing as well as many proper mechanics. I have been working very hard to correct the improper mechanics. My ball flight has always been a fade to a slice. Implementing the teachings of Danny Maude and Clay Ballard (TopSpeedGolf) my ball flight currently is much straighter. Occasionally, I hit a slight draw, but my main miss is generally to the right. My tempo is smooth with a more effortless swing. I typically hit a 7 iron 150 yds. The first set of irons that I was fitted for was a set of Ping i3 Blades with Cushin Z Z65 shaft plus 0.5” and a 1* upright. My current clubs are Titleist 716 AP1 with KuroKage stiff graphite shafts plus 0.5” and a 1* upright. The specs I gave for my order of the Lynx Black Cat Irons were plus 0.5” and 1* upright, but I intentionally went with a regular graphite shaft to keep the weight of the overall club as light as possible. One of the things that I learned from my experience of winning the D7 Wilson Driver in the SpyStaffSlam 2019 Masters was that this shaft and driver combination was lighter than my current driver (so I have changed to a lighter shaft on my TS2 Driver). Lighter is more beneficial with a slow tempo swing that I am trying to encourage. I ordered oversized grips because I have large hands. https://youtu.be/o1O6qHUWayE The Black Cat irons ($650 in steel, $720 in graphite) are a hollow design that use a variable thickness face to improve ball speed consistency from on-center to off-center hits. Each head is filled with a polymer to support a thin face of just 2.0 millimeters. The standard set is six clubs, 5-iron through pitching wedge. In order to compare the new clubs to my current player improvement clubs, I plan on using the new clubs every time I play/practice until the evaluation is over. I will be evaluating their forgiveness, length, and accuracy to see if they get to stay in my bag. Through Arccos Caddie tracking and tour analytics, I will see if my play/statics with my irons are improving with the new clubs. knightsofnii, kardboard.kid, fixyurdivot and 12 others 15 Quote SpeedZone Pars and Stripes 9.5* Driver 14gm weight in back, VENTUS Blue 6-R set to +1* draw. 14.5* Fairway, 18.5* Fairway, 22.5* Fairway. All with Tensei CK Blue R set to +1* draw. 816H1 27* Hybrid w/ Diamana Blue Board 70 HY Stiff Shaft SpeedZoneONE 5 + 6 KBS Tour 80 R SpeedZoneONE 7, 8, 9 KBS Tour 90 R SpeedZoneONE P, G, S KBS Wedge King Black ONE 60* VO8* True Temper Dynamic Gold Black Lamkin Crossline Cord Connect Black Mid-size plus 2 wraps Special Select Newport 2 34" Matador grip -ProV1x Align XL All in a Masters Staff Bag or SpeedZone stand bag #COBRACONNECT CHALLENGE 4 The ONLY One Length Contestant! Tested Prototype Balls Tour B RXS Tested:Black Cat irons 5 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Graphite Regular +0.5" 1* upright BirdieBall Outdoor Putting Green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviddvm Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Stage 2 Placeholder Black Cat Irons Official MGS Forum Review By Daviddvm Sept. 14, 2019 Started playing the Black Cat irons 5-PW exclusively July 18, 2019 which has included several range sessions and 10 full rounds including one single round handicap tournament which I finished second in my flight. Prior to testing, I was playing with Titleist AP1, 5-PW for 14 rounds tracked by Arccos Caddie. I have played this iron set for 3 years. I started tracking and analyzing my game utilizing Arccos Caddie in April 2019. Comparing my approach stats for 14 rounds with AP1’s vs Black Cats (10 rounds) gives me data to draw conclusions. Looks: 8 out of 10 points The black finish on the club head with the white grooves that really stand out, I find very appealing! The graphics on the back with the glittery green and silver effect is not particularly appealing to me, but it does draw your attention because it is different from most clubs. The club shape is a little thick, but consistent with the look of player improvement irons. At address, I really like the look of the club. Sound & Feel: 9 out of 10 points The sound of these clubs when struck well is very pleasing and is only a slightly softer sound when hit a little off center. I would compare the sound to opening a bottle of champagne! I find that very pleasing! With the oversized grips, lightweight graphite shafts, and foam filled hollow club head, these irons have an excellent feel in my hands. Even on slightly off-center hits, the club is very stable at contact and the springboard effort of these irons is evident on most shots with little loss of distance. Basic Characteristics: 18 out of 20 points Accuracy with these irons is no problem. They are very straight, even on off center strikes. The distances are consistent with my AP1 clubs, even though the lofts are weaker. Trajectory is very high. These are the most forgiving clubs I have ever played. The Black Cat irons are workable when needing to play a low shot or punch is not problem. Turning the ball left or right is a little difficult, but that is not one of my strong suits. I work to try and hit straight shots most of the time and these clubs are very good for that. On Course Performance: 27 out of 30 points The transition from my AP1’s to the Black Cat irons was seamless. I played my first round with them cold turkey on July 18, 2019 and shot one of my best rounds of the summer. Two days later, I played in a tournament and finished second in my handicap flight. The straight high trajectory of these club really gave me confidence in their performance from day one. Plus, the forgiving nature of these clubs on off center hits is a great benefit. I absolutely love the 8 iron. I now try to lay up between 130-140 yards so I can swing a nice smooth 8 iron. Black Cat club usage last 10 rounds. Greens in regulation with Black Cat irons. I used the PW for most of my shots close to the green, anything 110 yards and shorter, unless in a bunker or needing to play a lob shot. In playing the PW, I feel it is a little difficult to get the spin I need to stop the ball on any shots with less than a full swing. The grooves on these clubs are shallow, and I would be intrigued to play a next generation model with deeper grooves. The ball really seems to jump off these clubs, and I love the dark club head with white grooves. My handicap overall has dropped from 14 to 12. More importantly to this evaluation, my approach handicap dropped from 17.2 to 14.9. Below are stats from 14 rounds with Titleist 716 AP1 . Below are stats from 10 rounds with Lynx Black Cats . Increased GIR, tighter dispersion, and little loss of yardage on off center hits have been the key elements to improved scoring. This is a 5 iron 168 yard par 3. Miscellaneous: 7 out of 10 points Like most of our testers, my clubs arrived after a lengthy wait in a beaten-up cardboard box with plastic wrap, brown paper, and very little protection. However, the clubs were in good shape and came to my specifications. The Lynx golf website Europe leaves a little to be desired, but they have recently launched the Lynx USA website. This old company with new owners and new leadership are back in the US market. It maybe an uphill battle for them, but I’m a fan, and I will be rooting for them. Play It or Trade It: 20 out of 20 points The Black Cat irons are player improvement clubs for Mid–High handicap players. The price for 5-PW is $699.00 with graphite shafts or $639.00 with steel shafts. These clubs are well worth the price. My Arccos Caddie tracking stats have proven to me that these irons help me play better golf. I have 3 more tournaments including the year end Club Championship, and the Black Cats will be in my bag! Conclusion: Lynx Golf is coming back to the US market. The Black Cat irons are a player improvement iron. I have found these irons to be high launching, very straight, and very forgiving. Playing these irons has improved my approach statistics being tracked by Arccos Caddie. I will continue to play these Black Cats for the rest of this season. Mid to High handicap players should consider these clubs when looking for a new set, as they are now available in the US market. Final Score: 89 out of 100 points Many thanks for this honor and opportunity provided by Lynx Golf and MSG. I have had a great time! This is my home for Golf! lynxgolfusa.com for more information. sirchunksalot, russtopherb, azstu324 and 2 others 5 Quote SpeedZone Pars and Stripes 9.5* Driver 14gm weight in back, VENTUS Blue 6-R set to +1* draw. 14.5* Fairway, 18.5* Fairway, 22.5* Fairway. 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Popular Post Jmikecpa Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 Stage One – Prowler VT by Jmikecpa First off, a big thank you to Lynx and to MGS for allowing me the opportunity to test these irons out and give my thoughts. This is my second time reviewing an iron from a company that is trying to get back into the golf equipment spotlight having previously tested and reviewed the Hogan Ft. Worth 15s when they were launched a few years back. So a little about me and my game. I am a 42 year-old married father of three children and we currently reside on Long Island with our Great Dane. I am fortunate in that all three of my children play golf and my wife does not (just kidding if she reads this). We belong to a private club on the South Shore of Long Island that has golf for me and a beach club for my wife so it is best of both worlds. My wife is very supportive of my golf habit and has given up on trying to talk me out of new clubs when I find something I want. Hence the amount of putters that are sitting in my golf room these days. My game these days has a lot of ups and downs or more accurately a lack of consistency. I don’t practice nearly enough and when I have time to devote to golf I would prefer to play over time on the range or putting green. I have been scratch or better for pretty much my entire adult life (currently playing off a 0.4 index) and played a lot of tournament golf in my 20’s and early 30’s. My game these days is contingent on how well I can drive the ball and if I can make a few putts. I still can move it pretty good for being over 40 and my driver swing speed is still 116 mph to 118 mph. I have always been a consistent ball striker with an above average short game, but putting comes and goes for me. I don’t three jack a lot of greens but have a propensity to miss putts that I should make. I can still create a lot of lag for an old man. My current WITB (all of which I have been fit for) Driver: Titleist TS3 9.5* HZRDUS Yellow 75g 6.5 Fairway: Titleist TS2 15* Diamana Blueboard 83x Hybrid: Titleist 818 H2 19* Tensei CK Pro White 90x Irons: Titleist 716 TMB 4 – PW TTDG S300 AMT Wedges: Titleist SM7 50* (F) TTDG S300 Callaway MD4 54* (S) & 58* (X) KBS $ Taper 120 Putter: Scotty Cameron Select Squareback 34” Ball: 2019 Titleist ProV1 The driver and three wood are new for this year after a failed go with the Epic Flash Sub Zero. The rest of my bag was a holdover from last year and the year before. I have found a setup that works right now and doing my best not to change it up. I have been with the exact setup above for a few months now which has to be some sort of a record for me. When I was selected to test these irons I was very intrigued because I played Lynx irons back in the early 90’s when the company was one of the equipment leaders. Reading the story of how the currently company has evolved left me really wanting to see if the current offerings live up to what I remember from the older Lynx clubs I played in my youth. The iron set that I received was the Lynx Prowler VT 3 – PW in the gun metal finish with lie specs to match my current gamers and the shafts are KBS Tour 90 S. Not the best fitting shaft for me but will give them a good go none the less and heck maybe I may find something that works that is a bit outside the box for me. My first impression of the irons when they arrived is that they were just absolutely stunning to look at. Well that was after hoping they survived the trip in the poor packing material and box that looked like it was drug behind the truck for a few miles. Note to Lynx that they really need to work on the packaging and shipping boxes, small touch that goes a long way. The other cool thing was the head weights listed on the irons, well on most of the irons. All the irons in my set had weights on them with the exception of the six iron. Was a cool touch but not sure why all but one iron. The gunmetal finish in a bladed looking club with minimal offset is something that is right up my alley. Considering that I played blades most of my life the new crop of hollow muscle back irons are just what the doctor ordered for me. I still love the look of a blade but with my lack of practice I really need a little bit of help. The interesting part of these irons are that the face is forged while the body is cast. Best I can tell this is one of the few, if not the only, iron in this category that has this type of construction. I have been a huge fan of hollow body irons for years. My gamers are the first iteration of the TMBs from Titleist and I reviewed and gamed the Ft. Worth 15 Hi irons for several years. For guys like me that grew up playing blades that need some help these really check a lot of boxes. For my testing and review I will put these up against my gamers to see if they can kick them out of the bag. I would like to say that I will just be throwing them in the bag and giving them a go straight away but with the club championship starting next week that will not be the case. The Lynx irons will get a methodical testing to make sure that I can hit the stock shots that are my go to shots these days and that I am able to flight the ball the way that I want to. I also plan to give them a go in the longer irons against some of the driving irons that I have collected over the last few years to see how they may function as a long iron replacement. Hoping to give you guys some perspective on how I test clubs and what I try and do to get the most out of my gear. A little sneak peek of the testing... 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Jmikecpa Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Lynx Prowler VT – Official MGS Forum Review by Jmikecpa Intro Again, I would like to give say thank you to Lynx and MGS for giving me the opportunity to test the Prowler VT irons. When these arrived, all I could think looking down at these were that finally a set of irons that were made for a guy like me. There was little doubt on first site that these would not go right into the bag, but during testing I found some real reasons that these just may not make the cut and also a lot that I really liked about them. For my testing the bulk of the time was spent on the course with either the Prowler VT irons in my bag as the gamers or sharing some time with the beloved Titleist 716 TMBs to try and get a side by side comparison under playing conditions. I also hit the 3 and 4 irons up against a few other utility irons that I had around the house to see if there was a niche for the long irons to slot into possibly a mixed set. Looks (10 out of 10 points) In a word….stunning. I went with the gunmetal finish just for something different and these are a shape that I can get on board with. My gamers for the bulk of the last few years have been a full set of Titleist TMBs and these are shaped essentially the same with a little more squared off toe and from the eye test a little less offset. To me these have the look of a classic blade but I just know that there is a little help there when you need it. Had I been able to choose over I would have gone with the more traditional finish as the gunmetal is just not going to hold up very well over time. That being said these are just a sexy looking club with very understated graphics that just say pure class. Sound & Feel (8 out of 10 points) Feel is a very subjective area and for the Prowler VT I quite enjoyed the feel of the irons. Well struck shots are just a pure feel with a sound a bit on the clicky side, but nothing that even remotely bothered me one bit. On mishits the sound is a bit high pitched compared to a flushed shot but again nothing that really bothered me or surprised me one bit. Overall these had the sound and feel that I would expect from an iron in this class. Not as muted at my TMBs but not nearly as loud as the Ping G700s. Basic Characteristics (16 out of 20 points) Over the course of testing these irons I spent a lot of time on the range working with them; actually a lot more range time than I am normally used to. My first impression on the range was that these were just flat out long and actually almost a club longer than what I was currently playing which was at times a good feature but mostly something that I was not looking for. Across the set these are just about a degree stronger than my TMBs, which is surely not enough to gain that much distance. This leads into my main issue with these irons and that was the shafts. If I were going for a fitting I am not sure that KBS Tour 90s shafts would ever be my first choice. In full disclosure I played these exact shafts in a set of Apex Pros for a little over a year with a lot of success and even made my first ace with this setup. However; that was several years ago when I was battling injuries that mainly affected how hard I could go after an iron as well as angle of attack. My swing has a lot of speed but as you can see from the video still fairly smooth with a smooth transition. The choice of shafts in these irons led to a lot of what I did not like about the clubs. https://youtu.be/nQNWbxG17VA The shafts caused a few other issues for me in terms of peak height and control. The peak height for a 7 iron was on average about 8 yards (yes, 8 yards) higher than my TMBs and on average around 12 yards higher than my Epic Pros. As I play the majority of my golf on the south shore of Long Island in the wind this was no bueno. As much as I tried these were just not capable of keeping the ball down which was my fear with a high launch head with a light shaft. Just not a combo that I would be able to play day in and day out at my club although the 205 yard downwind 8 iron is a great trick shot to have in the bag. From a control perspective this combo was challenging. I felt that the normal ¾ and touch shots that I like to hit on the course were just not possible. Dialing in the flight and the yardage that I am used to was just at most times a fruitless exercise on the range and something that I felt that I needed to do on the course so more on that later. Surprisingly the dispersion with this combo was quite good. I have gone from primarily playing a draw most of my life to a nice baby cut the last two seasons. I was able to replicate my normal shot shape over and over with the Prowler VTs and turn it over when I need that shot. My fear was that I would have issues with turning the ball over too much when I was trying to really go after one and that was not the case. For the most part the shafts held up to some really hard takes at the ball. Now onto the really good with the Prowler VT irons and that is forgiveness. In full disclosure I am a scratch to a plus player and generally an above average ball striker so I am giving my perspective on forgiveness as it relates to my game. Shots that are a groove too low lose next to no distance and the same with shots a little bit high on the face. Toe strikes lose close to half a club which is what I would expect and the only real penal area on the irons is low heel. I purposely hit shots all over the face to see what results I would get and these exceeded my expectations see as these do not have some of the same features as the TMBs or i500s with tungsten and such. To go off script a little bit I would like to give some perspective on the long irons; specifically the three and the four iron. If you have read some of my reviews in the past I have indicated that long irons have historically not been my friend and for years I carried nothing less than I five iron and at least two hybrids. That all changed when the Adams DHY was released and then the Tour Edge Exotics CBH Pro which led to a 712u from Titleist and so on and so forth. Over the last five or so years I have had a 2 iron in the bag and at least carried a 4 iron as my stock set up. Currently I have an X Forged UT 21* with and ADDI 95s tipped and inch and half an inch long in the bag that I play as a 3.5 iron. With all the issues that I had above with the full set the shafts and the flight with the long irons was great and exactly what I would be looking for; high launch and mid spin in the top end of the bag. Very versatile off the tee and the fairway and really nice when going for a par 5 in two or into a long par 4. No issues with holding the green and the shot shape and trajectory were not only consistent but repeatable. These really fit the mold of something like the TMB as opposed to other “utility irons” as they just blend with the set. Compared to the X Forged UT or even the 712u these give me more of the feeling that I am hitting an iron from the set as opposed to an iron that is meant to compliment the set. For me the long irons were the shining stars of the set and I would not change one thing in the 3 and 4 irons. From top to bottom Lynx Prowler VT, Titleist TMB, Titleist 712u, Callaway X Proto 18* Just to note, from a range perspective these performed exactly as designed and I cannot take too many points away just because they were not exactly for me. Overall these irons performed as advertised. On-Course Performance (14 out of 30 points) This is the area that is the most difficult to write for me because I just could not get along with these irons on the course. These were either in my bag as my gamers or in the bag hitting shots compared to my gamers and at the end of the day I just could not get consistent results. I will say that there were some great shots hit with these irons, but at the end of the day I could not trust hitting just about any shot with the Prowler VT irons under pressure. As on the range the Prowler VTs produced iron shots that launched high and flew for what seemed like forever. On the course a stock 7 iron was carrying on average 183 yards as compared to 174 yards with my Titleist TMBs. Not a huge deal when there was no wind but into the wind I was having to hit a 5 iron into what would have been a one club wind with my gamers. This constant math not only led to some poor swings but also some poor results on well executed shots. During my first round with the irons on the course I needed a par on 18 to shoot even par for the day. #18 is a 437 yard par 4 with water short of the green and the pin back middle. Nice drive in the fairway leaving me 159 yards into a one club wind. Pulled and 8 iron and flushed it ten yards over the back of the green that I did not get up and down for par. Just for fun I went back out about 20 minutes later and hit the shot with a 9 iron and dumped two flushed 9 irons in the water short. There was close to 30 yards difference in the irons and that was just not a great start. In one shot on one hole this sums up my experience with these irons. I was just never sure how far they were going to go and at my level of playing consistency is key for iron play. What I will say about these irons is that on days where I am not trying to figure out the wind they are just a blast to play. I went out around 10 times with my son on weekend afternoons and played irons only rounds off of his tees and on calm days these performed great. My low round was -2 paying the course at around 6,000 yards and my high was a 77 in the wind. Rather than beat a dead horse these irons set up as they are were just not going to work for me on the course. That being said there was a lot that was good about these and I have a plan for the offseason. Miscellaneous (4 out of 10 points) Some random thoughts…. · I am darn glad that Lynx is back and really hope that they succeed in a tough industry. · The shaft line just needs to be expanded in stock offerings. One steel shaft offering is just not going to cut it. · Update Google for the new website. · As was already addressed but as a reminder, packaging needs to be reviewed. Play it or Trade it? (16 out of 20 points) To get to the point, neither. With winter quickly approaching I am going to take these back to the drawing board over the offseason. There is a lot of really good about these irons, but just can’t get over the fact that they are not set up for my game. I hit a lot of really good shots with these but also some really poor and at the end of the day I can’t have indecision in the back of my head over every iron shot. With that said here is the plan. I am going to do a rebuild on the irons to get them to something that should reasonably work for me. As I keep saying there is just too much good and too much to like about these irons to just cut bait with them over the stock shaft. I think keeping the 3 and 4 iron the same is a good move and then looking at something a touch heavier and lower launching in the rest of the set should get the job done. Stay tuned as I am hoping to do a thread on the build once I get the itch to golf when there is some snow on the ground. Conclusion Well at the end of the day these were not for me……as currently configured. With some tweaks these could be a real winner for my game. I like the direction that Lynx is going and really like having them back in the equipment game. I really look forward to watching the company grow and thrive as they continue to develop. They have the right ideas in terms of price point, quality components as stock offerings and a good vision. With that said there is still a long way to go. There should be at least one or two stock steel shaft offerings (would have loved to hit these with the Tour V) and possibly more than two grip choices. Overall there was a lot to like about these irons and hence my commitment to make them mine over the winter. Stay tuned! Five iron for a kick in eagle Final Score: 68 out of 100 (subject to revision based on a rebuild) josmi15, JohnSmalls, downlowkey and 4 others 7 Quote WITB 2024 Qi10 LS 9* HZRDUS RDX Smoke Blue 60g 6.5 M5 15* Evenflow Black 75g 6.5 Sim Ti 22* HZRDUS Red 75g 6.5 Sim2 Rescue 22* Diamana Thump 100x X Forged CB 5 - PW MMT 105 TX Jaws Raw 50*, 54* & 58* TTDG "OG" Spinner Toulon Madison BGT Fire 34.75" Z Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JudgeSmails Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) A HUGE thank you to MGS and Lynx for letting me in on this testing opportunity. Most of you know me as JudgeSmails, but my real name is Scott. I’ve been an active member on the forums for several years and have a done a few product tests in the past. I have lived in NorthEast Indiana my entire life, been married for 20 years and have 3 wonderful daughters (16/13/11). I took up golf after highschool, a little over 20 years ago, and have been in LOVE with the game ever since. In the last 5-6 years, I’ve gotten much more serious about improving and getting better every time I go out. I love that it’s a game you don’t have to be young and athletic, to be competitive in. You can be better at 40 than you were at 30. Current Handicap is about a 9. I don’t keep it officially or use it for any competitions, just for my own purpose to see how I’m improving. My swing tempo, I think is pretty quick, especially with the irons (video below) From 150, I’m pulling either the 9i or 8i….it’s a little between clubs for me. I’m probably grabbing the 9, because I’m much better at taking a hard cut than taking something off (usually ends up fat) Ball flight wise, I try to hit the ball nice and high with my irons. As far as left or right, I’m just trying to hit it straight, I don’t have a usual miss, it could be a little left or right on any given shot. Game Strengths: My iron play, especially 7i down, has always been the strenght of my game. Give me 150 in, and I’m pretty decent. I think I just naturally have always hit down on the ball, the way you are supposed to. If I have a big miss with an iron, it’s probably catching one fat Game Weakness: PUTTING...It has been a real struggle over the past year or so. I’m probably ok at lag putting, it’s the ones you are SUPPOSED to make that I struggle with. Some days I absolutely CANNOT make a 5 foot straight putt. It has really frustrated me, but I’m working on it. CURRENT IRONS Mizuno JPX900 Hot Metal I was fit for these, with Nippon Modus Pro Stiff 2*up I went to our local shop and tried out about 4 different sets of irons. It Came down to these and the Srixon 585. I liked them both the same, but the Mizzy’s were cheaper and my shafts were no charge upgrade. I am testing the LYNX Prowler VT set When I think of Lynx, I think of the Black Cat line. When I started playing golf 2 decades or so ago, I wanted a set of Black Cat’s so damn bad, but just couldn’t afford them. That being said, I actually opted for the Prowler VT. It’s a bit more of a ‘players’ iron than what I’m used to, but I wanted to give them a shot. My set makeup is 3-PW, KBS Tour 90 Stiff (KBS Tour was the only shaft option available). I ordered them 2* upright. I was pretty excited to open the box when they came. I will say, they are a very good looking iron. Very sleek and classy, not too busy on the design, but the Lynx logo is prominently displayed. A few things I noticed; There was nothing in the box stating that they were 2*upright as ordered, I will have to take their word for it on that one, I don’t personally have a way of checking them. Also, about ½ the set had plastic on the heads and the other ½ didn’t. Not sure why this is, they were no doubt all new, but only some of them had the plastic wrapper on them. Also, 7i has a small hole drilled in the side, like where some of the manufacturers are injecting or whatever, this is the only one in the set that had that. Beyond that, they are a very good looking iron, definitely have a thinner sole than my Mizzy’s, as would be expected from more of a players iron. It’s hard to find a lot of information on these irons. Lynx is based in the UK and doesn’t have the presence in the US like they used to. They are trying to make a comeback, and it’s welcome from me, the more competition the better for the average golfer. *(as I’m writing this, I was going to pull up some of the marketing info to see what Lynx says about the technology in these irons, but their website is down, for what it’s worth). I hope you all will stick with me for Stage 2….I’m really looking forward to getting these on the range and seeing if I can make something made for the better player, work for my game. I will also be comparing them side by side with my precious Mizzy Hot Metals…..Can LYNX make a comeback into the golf equipment industry in the US and kick my Mizzy’s out of the bag??? STAY TUNED FOR STAGE 2 Edited July 29, 2019 by JudgeSmails edingc, sirchunksalot, Nunfa0 and 12 others 15 Quote Driver: TR20 10.5* Hybrids: Epic SuperHybrid 3 18* Epic 4h 23* Irons: JPX900 Hot Metal 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 52* 56* 60* Putter: EV8 Ball: Tour BXS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeSmails Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) STAGE 2 Lynx Prowler VT Irons – Official MGS Forum Review by JudgeSmails Thank you to Lynx and MyGolfSpy for letting me put these irons through the ringer. I had a great time testing, as I always do checking out new equipment. 20 years ago when I started playing golf, I always wanted a set of Lynx irons, as time went by, they kind of fell off the map here in the U.S. They are trying to make a comeback and I welcome it. I’m a 9 handicapper, who considers my iron play the strength of my game. Get me within 150yds and I’m pretty decent (I think). Check out my Stage1 if you want to read up more about my game and golf history, I don’t want to get too repetitive here. My testing was done in 3 phases. An initial range session, a Trackman session and finally being used in play. On to the REVIEW Looks (10 out of 10 points) I like the simple, clean, classic look of these irons. The finish I chose is very shiny in the sun, but there is no glare at address. The Lynx logo is prominently displayed, I think they have a very cool logo, so I was happy to see it on these irons. They definitely have a classic blade look to them, but looking at address, gives you a little confidence that there may be some forgiveness there. Honestly, I’m not sure what could be improved upon here, they look great, and my score represents that. Sound & Feel (7 out of 10 points) Sound wise, the Lynx have a much more “clicky” sound than I’m used to. It’s not a bad sound but I can definitely tell the difference between them and the duller “thud” of my Mizuno Hot Metals. The video below should give you a pretty good idea, I got as close as I could to try and capture it. Feel wise, for me, comes down to 3 words; YOU WILL KNOW. When you hit a good one, YOU WILL KNOW, when you hit a bad one, YOU WILL KNOW. Immediately I could tell whether I hit the sweet spot or not swinging the Lynx Prowler VT’s. When you pure it, it’s a really great feeling. But when you don’t, you will be able to feel it in your hands/forearms. I will give them a decent score here for the feeling of a well struck shot, but take some points off for the slight mishits. Basic Characteristics (14 out of 20 points) RANGE: I was pretty excited when I peeled the plastic off and took these babies out to the range for the first time. I started out hitting the 7 iron. Again, as I mentioned in the feel, the good ones were good, the off center strikes were bad, some of them REAL bad. Had a little trouble getting them up in the air at first, but after a while got more comfortable. I switched to the PW, and had much better success with it. I was able to hit them high and straight, the mis hits were bad, but not as punishing as the 7 iron. I went through the rest of the irons, switching back and forth with similar results. The higher numbers I had much more trouble with, but had pretty good results w/ the lower numbers. I did get a 3 iron with this set, my Mizuno set actually stops at the 5 iron. So I spent some time trying to hit the almighty STINGER with it on the range, using it like a driving iron. Oddly enough, I had some pretty good success doing that, consider how I struggled with a few of the lower lofted irons. I was hitting a fairly consistent low draw from teeing the ball up just above the grass, and putting it a touch back in my stance. TRACKMAN: Here is a pic of the data from my Trackman testing. To avoid wearing myself out, I only compared my current 7iron & PW to the Lynx VT equivalent on the trackman. I also spent a little time w/ the 3 iron at the end. I’m also showing the Spec (including loft) comparison from the 2 sets in the first picture for reference. First off, on the results. EVERYTHING I hit, the Trackman was showing offline to the right. I must have not been setup in the correct spot, or aiming wrong. I am not generally that far offline, especially with a PW. These were not slices, the ball started in that direction. So I will not put a huge emphasis on those numbers, although it does show the Lynx as being further to the right, again, something was up there. The PW comparison is pretty close, had the Lynx at just a yard longer. Take out that terrible first shot w/ the Mizuno, and I imagine they are almost identical. A good showing for sure. The 7i was a little different story, although only 1* stronger, I was getting about 15 yards more distance. I believe this is mainly due to the forgiveness on the off center strikes the Mizuno provides, as opposed to the off center hits w/ the Lynx. To be fair, my first 7i w/ the Lynx was TERRIBLE, as you can see in the graph. If you take that out, the Lynx avg carry would come in at 151, only 7 yards behind the Hot Metals. With both the 7i and the PW, the Lynx was significantly further right offline, but again, everything was going right. The 3iron was as I expected, from my results at the range. Some good ones I’d love to have on a tight par 4, and some mishits that I’d like to forget. (I did remove one shot from the averages on the 3i that was a complete shank, my fault, not the clubs) On-Course Performance (15 out of 30 points) I was able to get several rounds in, using the Lynx Prowler VT irons alongside my Mizunos. Hitting extra balls with the same club in each set. A 7i approach w/ the Lynx, then the same with the Mizuno. I found the results to be pretty similar to the numbers you see above. With the shorter irons, I didn’t see much difference in performance. Maybe not as well on target, but that’s part of getting used to a new set. The biggest difference was with the longer irons. Usually coming up a little shorter, even on the good strikes, of where the Mizzy’s landed, and usually right of target. The bad strikes again, were punished much more severely. It became more evident, that as much as I think I’m a decent ball striker, I still have a lot of room for improvement. That being said, I did hit some beauties with these irons, and when you do hit that sweet spot, you are rewarded. At this point, though, on the course, my shots were longer and more on target w/ the Hot Metals. Miscellaneous (9 out of 10 points) For Misc, I will touch on customer service. Even though these irons were coming from overseas, they got them to us in a timely manner, and exactly as ordered. Also, a couple of us found an odd bored hole in the side of the 7 iron only, customer service jumped in w/ the GolfSpy staff and explained what was going on, and sent a replacement 7 iron (although mine still had the same exact hole, not sure why they didn’t check that). I don’t think it’s anything wrong with the iron, just odd it’s the only one that has it. Also, the fact that they joined the forum and jumped in this thread says a lot about them. That they care about the people using their clubs and want to be involved. I would like to see Lynx put up more shaft options (even as upgrades) than the single KBS shaft. Being able to use the same shaft as in my current set (that I was fit for), could have possibly helped. Play it or Trade it? (10 out of 20 points) TRADE. Don’t take that the wrong way, these are fine irons, but they are not for me. In the hands of a better better ball-striker, these could be fantastic weapons. I am not ready for a players iron, I still need that forgiveness of something in-between SGI and Players. My current irons fit that bill and will stay in the bag. I do love the look, and the feel when you catch one is great, I just couldn’t catch enough of them. I’m going to give it 10 points here though, because much of the fall back of these irons are due to the man swinging them, not the clubheads themselves. The 3 Iron I will probably keep around, if I can get more consistent with that, it will be a real asset on short/tight par 4's. Conclusion These are good players irons, but just not for me. I might be beyond needing Super Game Improvement irons, but I still need forgiveness. That would be where these lack. To be fair, they are probably not meant for me, and in hindsight, I would have been a better fit to test the Black Cats. But I have done my best to put these through the ringer. If you guys have any questions, don’t hesitate to ask. Thanks for reading. Final Score: 65/100 Edited September 12, 2019 by JudgeSmails JohnSmalls, GolfSpy_BNG, fixyurdivot and 6 others 9 Quote Driver: TR20 10.5* Hybrids: Epic SuperHybrid 3 18* Epic 4h 23* Irons: JPX900 Hot Metal 5-GW Wedges: CBX2 52* 56* 60* Putter: EV8 Ball: Tour BXS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GolfSpy_BNG Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 Stage 1 First off I would like to thank MyGolfSpy and Lynx Golf for the opportunity to review the Prowler VT irons. This is my first review for MGS so any and all advice/suggestions are extremely welcome. Let's dive right into the personal stuff shall we! My real name is Mark Kramer. I am a 38 year old HVAC Technician. I spent just about every Tuesday and Thursday last year doing night school to work toward getting my license. I have been married to my beautiful wife for just shy of 4 years. She understands that my one track mind is almost always on golf, whether it is playing, reading, buying, selling, or watching golf on t.v. So much so that our anniversary is the day after my birthday so I won't forget it! I have a 17 year old daughter that will be graduating from high school this coming school year. She is one of the most amazing artists I know and I couldn't be more proud of her! My wife and I live in Wesley. A small town in north central Iowa. While the golf season isn't the longest in the world. I do have 6 golf courses within 30 minutes of my house. I first started golfing in high school when I was 17. This was right around the "Tiger Boom". I decided I didn't want to run track my junior year but definitely wanted to stay busy so golf was an experiment. I never thought it would escalate to this kind of addiction. I have come to really enjoy buying and selling as well as the club making side of golf as much as playing. Until this year I was lucky to get out 2-3 times a month. Now I try to get out at least once a weekend, sometimes twice. I have even taken 2 vacation days just to golf, which until now would have been unheard of for me. My current handicap is 8.3 according to The Grint. My main goal this year is to shoot par over 9 holes and would have already accomplished it had I not finished bogey, bogey, bogey a couple weeks ago. I don't really practice much since if I have the time I would rather be playing. My swing is no where near conventional. I tend to have an arched back and bend over too far. This is probably the main reason for fighting an OTT swing. While I have started to embrace the fade, I would still love to hit a draw consistently. My big miss with the driver is a push slice but with the irons it is a fat chunk or a shank straight right. I tend to think of my short irons and wedges as by far the best part of my game. Putting has been better this year. I really struggle with my 4-7 irons. Like others I received the clubs in a beat up white box with Lynx on it. Upon opening the box I was greeted with beautiful, undamaged 4-PW Prowler VT gunmetal irons. I was pleased to see that each iron had the head weight on it. This was completely unexpected but a nice touch. They are shafted with KBS Tour 90 stiff shafts and come with Lamkin Crossline grips. At address they look amazing and provide very limited glare. I took the irons in to my local golf shop to have the lofts and lies check. I was surprised to hear the results from them to say the least. My order was 4-PW standard loft and lie but -1/4" in length. I measured the length at -1/2" but that could simply be a difference in how they were measured. The standard specs per the website are in one column and what I got are in the other. Standard Received Loft/Lie Loft/Lie 4-iron 22*/60* 23*/62* 5-iron 25*/61* 25*/63* 6-iron 28*/62* 29*/64* 7-iron 32*/62.5* 33*/63* 8-iron 36*/63* 37*/64* 9-iron 40*/64* 40*/64* PW 45*/64* 44*/64.5* I was going to have the shop adjust the lofts and lies back to what was ordered but while doing the loft on the 4-iron, the guy said that as hard as it was to adjust he didn't recommend doing the others. He advised with the gunmetal finish and the chance of breakage it may not be the best idea. I agreed as I didn't want to have a partial set simply because of a couple degrees of lie. I did manage to get the 4-iron to the standard 22* loft for better gaps at the top end. So is the Cat Back? I, along with my fellow testers have begun a 6 week journey to find out. While the first set of real irons I bought were Lynx Parallax irons, I have never thought about Lynx as a company since then. Can these Hollow Bodied Players Distance Irons hang with the big boys? Can they provide consistent distances without hot spots? These are just a few of the questions that need answers. Let's find out together shall we! GolfSpy Barbajo, Shankster, azstu324 and 16 others 18 1 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Stage 2 Intro First off I would like to thank Lynx and MyGolfSpy for allowing me the privilege of testing these beautiful irons. When everyone says that testing is a lot of work, they aren't blowing smoke. While this review was a lot of work, it was also a whole lot of fun. The review added a new wrinkle to my rounds and I have never enjoyed them more, even my back to back career worst rounds! My review process consisted of comparing the VT's to my Adams A Tour irons, a round with just irons (no woods or putter), and finally picking different yardages on course and firing away. Looks 10/10 I would like to start by saying that out of the box these were absolutely beautiful. The gunmetal finish provides zero glare in the sun. They are hollow body players irons in a compact head. I love the look of a blade iron but don't quite have the game for them. The back of the iron is very subdued and features the Lynx cat logo, Lynx in big enough lettering to know what they are without being obnoxious, and the initials VT. I am not sure there is a better looking iron to my eyes. Sound and Feel 8/10 The Prowler VT's have a slightly louder click sound to them than I am use to. This is by no means a turnoff and definitely something you forget about after a couple swings. The gunmetal finish may be some of the reason for that but without hitting the other finish it is merely speculation. They get harsher feeling as you stray from the center of the face and you will feel it in your hands when you do. Basic Characteristics 15/20 When I applied for this review my biggest concern with my A Tours were consistency. Every now and again I would get that "where did that come from shot". Nothing worse than having 120 in and blasting a PW 30 yards over the green and into trouble. For me to play my best I need to know if I put a good swing on the ball, it will go the correct distance. On the range/course I found the VT's to be very consistent when struck near the center where they feature a noticeable spring effect and high launch. I did however see a big difference in distance when struck outside of the center. On Course Performance 18/30 This is where everything matters for me. Good looks, sound, and feel are great but if they don't perform on the course then what good are they. Earlier I mentioned a high launch. On the course I found this to be good and bad. On days when there was no wind, the VT's flew high and stopped on a dime. It is always nice to know you can fire at pins without worrying about rolling off the green. That is the good, but now the bad. When there was anything close to a normal 1/2 to 1 club wind, the VT's were more like 2-3 clubs short. There were days that I had a hard time hitting a 5-iron my 9-iron distance. Even out of the middle. I have a feeling that the shaft may play a big part in that as the Tour 90 is probably not the best fit for me. I believe my score reflects this but would like to try a different shaft to know for sure. Miscellaneous 6/10 I think Lynx hit a homerun with the Prowler VT's. My only gripes would be shaft selection as well as hitting the costumers specs. As I mentioned in my stage one my specs were off from standard. The box also showed up in pretty beat up shape. Nothing was damaged and Lynx responded with a letter letting us know it was unacceptable. Lynx showed they really care about their product and customers helped the score here. One other thing to note is how quickly the white paint comes out of the grooves as well as brush marks showing up on the bottom. It gives the irons a look of being used more than they have been. Some will hate this, others won't care. I am somewhere in the middle. Play it or Trade it 10/20 This is a difficult one for me. Right now with the irons that were sent to me for review, the answer is TRADE IT! Now I have been talking about reshafting these but I don't currently have a .370 shaft to do so. A reshaft may be exactly what moves the VT's from TRADE IT to PLAY IT! Conclusion LYNX IS DEFINITELY BACK! The Prowler VT's are a gorgeous iron and will compete with any out there. I truly believe with a proper fitting shaft they may make the bag. If you guys have any question feel free to ask away. This was my first review for MGS so any feedback is always welcome. Total Score 67/100 Thanks for reading and thanks again to Lynx and MyGolfSpy. It has been a pleasure and an honor. MattF, fixyurdivot, StrokerAce and 2 others 5 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post azstu324 Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) PROWLER VT Never ever start a review without first giving credit where credit’s due.. A very sincere thank you to both MGS and Lynx Golf for allowing the 8 of us to take part in what could possibly be considered an historical resurgence in golf. Anybody reading this has to have some level of interest, knowledge, nostalgia, recollection, or whatever you wanna call it regarding Lynx golf clubs. When Lynx was in its prime circa early 90’s, I was a teenager. Needless to say, golf to me in my teenage years was just a game unfortunately. Even in my oblivious innocence, I still knew about Lynx Golf. Me and my game in a nutshell.. except I’m allergic to nuts.. So maybe me in a taco shell.. MMMmmm tacos I’ve been playing this game since about the age of 12. I’m completely self-taught with only the help of the University of YouTube. I’ve got a nearly savant-like obsession with all things golf. Before I got married and started a family, my attention was divided between multiple extreme sports and semi-dangerous hobbies like dirt bike racing, snowboarding, and Muay Thai (Thai Kickboxing). I’ve pretty much packed all of those things up and golf is what keeps me sane.. well sort of. If you happen to watch any YouTube instructionals, Mark Crossfield, Rick Shiels, Me and My Golf, and Chris Ryan are my personal instructors in my living room after 8 pm when the kiddos are out cold. Most days I’ll shoot mid to low 80’s on most of my par 72 home courses. I live in Chandler, AZ (PHX area) where it’s not uncommon to have a good 10 home courses in regular circulation. Just recently, I’ve been able to break through a barrier that I’ve been stuck at for a couple of years and shoot into the high 70’s. I don’t have an established handicap but I’m thinking that maybe late 2019 I’ll start holding myself to a higher standard and register. I would say that my typical ball flight is pretty high but with distance. I’ve got a decent understanding of ball compression and hip-core-shoulder rotation. @Golfspy_CG2 can attest that I’ve got no problem getting the ball up in the air. I’m not really horrible at any particular golf skill.. but I’m not particularly great at any of them either. I’m definitely not content with my game and probably never will be. It’s just how I am. My typical miss is a left pull with both my driver and irons. If I have to say that I have a strength, it would probably be my wedge play from about 120 yds on in. Additionally, I do feel that when my driver’s firing, I’m pretty OK there too. My irons are seldomly hot or cold.. they’re usually about lukewarm. I think that maintaining consistency is my biggest area for improvement. I’ve been told that my swing tempo is rather smooth. I might be what some golf commentators would call “sneaky long”. By the video, you wouldn’t think that my avg. driver swing speed is around 112 mph. All that aside, my biggest objective this year is to improve in consistency and control. My go-to club for 145-150 yds is my 9i @ a traditional 42*. I’ll pretty much golf with whoever can go. I’m a pretty easy going fella that just likes good company. For years, my dad’s probably been my most consistent golf buddy but over the past year he’s had some physical limitations rear their ugly heads. He’s recently however undergone a very successful hip replacement surgery. Tomorrow (7/27/19) in fact will mark the first golf outing in about a year for us and I’m about as excited as anyone could be to see my pops get back on the course. We’re only playing 9 holes at an exec but it’s a huge step in the right direction and I’m jazzed about it. WIMB Driver: Cobra F8+ with / UST Proforce V2 Black Cobra Amp 4 wood / UST Elements Chrome UDI: Dynacraft 18* / UST Proforce V2 Irons 4 - GW: Maltby DBM / Nippon N.S. Pro 950GH (S) Honma 48* Wedge Wedges: Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 56*, 60* Putter: Cleveland HB #11 / Superstroke Flatso 3.0 Current Irons My whole life, I’ve been somewhat of a non-traditional traditionalist.. wait.. what?? I like classic, clean, and simple things.. but I also like to wander off the beaten path to get to where I’m going. I play a set of irons designed by a guy named Ralph Maltby (no relation to Roger Maltbie). You’ll find me blubbering about how much I love the clubs all over MGS. The club model is called the DBM which is a nod to the actual process of pigmenting the steel black. It’s a very clean and basic looking cavity back soft-forged club. I would say that it falls on the “better player’s” side of the fence but doesn’t limit itself to just single digit shooters. I feel that I can play the club well even with my abundance of inconsistencies. As you can see, the heel to toe profile is maybe just a tad longer than the VT but with a much slimmer top line. The graphite black pigment is actually implanted into the steel and wears very well. Family I’m married to a wonderful woman (Amber) who only does her best to try and understand this sickness that so many of us share in this underworld of golf. We just turned over 9 years of marriage in June. We have 2 little ones. Kaylen is almost 7. She accompanies me to executive courses and enjoys putting. She hasn’t picked up the game completely yet but by her own request, we’ll be getting her started in the junior league this year. My little guy Logan is not quite 2. He’s definitely my dude. He somehow has an acute understanding that daddy’s golf clubs may as well be his younger sibling and my 3rd child. Whenever the clubs are out, he can’t help but try to snatch one, and in the event that he gets ahold of one, take cover!. I look forward to the day when I can get both of my kids out on the golf course. My wife Amber looks forward to that day as well. Enough about me I was chosen to review the Lynx Prowler VT. This has been a rather interesting group to be a part of up to this point. The interesting part is that we’re reviewing sets of clubs that come from a company that hasn’t really been a presence in golf for quite some time. Research material has been slim to almost non-existent to say the least. The only opinions that any of us can have up to this point is based on what we see in the few pictures available on the web. The Lynx web site has been about 50% functional and the amount of detailed marketing on these clubs has been.. well let’s just say scarce. From my understanding, Lynx’s intent over the next couple of years is to creep slowly back into the industry and eventually settle themselves back amongst the giants in due time. This is why this particular opportunity to me is so interesting and unique. As a testing group, we’re not just simply reviewing another version of a club that already existed from a familiar company that has an established presence. Were reviewing clubs that have no predecessors and from essentially a brand new company. Sure, past Lynx models have shared the same names (Black Cat/Prowler), but this is still new territory for Lynx with these particular tech-infused designs, and in a space that that they haven’t been a part of for so long. Will their claimed technical features be ahead, on par, or behind what today’s OEM’s are doing? it’s presumed that these reviews should have some very important and influential eyes tuning in. Delivery/Unboxing Unlike my counterparts, I was lucky to have the box show up relatively unscathed. The packaging left a bit to be desired. Being that the sticks were shipped from across the pond, I might have expected some foam separation or something just a bit more robust as I've seen in so many other reviews. Instead, the clubs were simply protected with crumpled up packing paper. The individual heads were shrink-wrapped in plastic so there didn't really appear to be any issues with shipping wear. Looks The Prowler VT’s define “classic” appearance. As you can see, they are clean, simplistic, and just everything that hundreds of years of golf history and present-day tech can put into 1 single club. The heel to toe profile is actually a tad more compact than I was expecting and I absolutely love that! Top line is a bit thicker than what I’m used to but with the compact profile, it doesn’t put me off in the slightest. Offset is next to nothing and uniform throughout the set (another plus). 8-PW are a little more rounded in shape which does make the clubs look slightly bigger but not out of place with the rest of the set. 3-7 are just perfect in every way. Tech & Stuff The Lynx VT is a hollow design similar to the Ping i5 and Titleist T-MB. As the name suggests, the face is a “Variable Thickness” construction. Both the leading edge and top sections of the face are thicker than the center to help add extra support on off-center hits and for better positioning of MOI (moment of intertia) therefore adding an extra element of forgiveness. The club is a 2-piece construction with what is rumored to be a 1020 soft forged face combined with a cast body. As you can see in the pictures, the face also has a bit of texture. It will be interesting to see how that texture interacts with the ball. From the tech specs that I could find, the lofts are about 3* stronger than what I’m used to playing so distance and gapping will definitely be talking points. The clubs come standard with some nice KBS Tour 90 Shafts. In waiting for the clubs to arrive, I had a chance to demo the shaft in a Titleist T-MB. The shaft itself feels very smooth and seemed to be very consistent. Height was maybe even a bit more than I’m used to but time will tell how these clubs perform with this shaft. Testing Objective I’m really not interested getting any more distance out of these clubs. My hopes throughout this testing are that I’ll be able to improve my consistency by possibly slowing things down just a little. If I’m able to maintain my current distance per club while finding the center of the face more often, I’ll be a very happy man. Ultimately the questions to be answered through this entire segment will be: Is the Cat really back? Is it ready to be a fierce predator again? Or is it merely a domesticated house cat with only bits and pieces of its original DNA? Teaser At this point we’ve had the clubs for about a week. Would anybody guess that most or each of us at minimum have had the clubs to the range and/or played a round or 2.. Bet your boots we have.. There’s something special to be said for the top end of the set.. Edited July 28, 2019 by azstu324 JohnSmalls, downlowkey, daviddvm and 15 others 17 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Lynx Prowler VT – Official MGS Forum Review by Stuart Marler (AZstu324) “Hello, Again, Hello”. Yes.. I just quoted a Neil Diamond to begin my stage 2 review. When you really think about it though, not a bad segue into a discussion of such an emotional, drama-laden fling? (wait.. did I just give something away?) When we were picked to be a part of this testing partnership with Lynx and MGS, I think that I speak for most when I say that I knew this was going to be something very special. In my stage 1, my parting comment/question was “is the cat really back?” I feel very strongly that I was able to conclude a definitive answer to that question… As far as testing mediums, I really tried to mix things up. Golf in general is a sport that relies on the senses as much as technological advancement. Launch monitor data is crucial but so is getting out on the grass. Looks (10 out of 10 points) In the world of muscleback player-style clubs, there really isn’t a better looking club on the market IMO. To re-quote myself from my stage 1 review “The Prowler VT’s define “classic” appearance. As you can see, they are clean, simplistic, and just everything that hundreds of years of golf history and present-day tech can put into 1 single club.” This opinion hasn’t budged an inch. Starting with the top line: 3-7 is simply no nonsense. Fairly straight with very little top line curve. 8-PW shows more curvature at the top but nothing out of sorts from the rest of the set. Some sets from other OEM’s tend to get a tad spoony toward the shorter clubs. Toe: The toe has a moderate curve without being too rounded. Face: Around the impact zone is actually slightly textured. I really think this plays a part in the spin #’s. I’m not sure if the grooves are cast or milled. They look cast to me but I’m no expert in this category and there is still very little information provided on the Lynx site. Leading Edge: A very slight curve is present to help with some turf interaction but appears pretty square at address. Bottom: Thinner bottom edge that very much resembles a bladed club profile. Heel to Toe: As you can see, the heel to toe is pretty compact even for its category. Initially I was able to compare the VT to a couple of its class competitors (Ping i500 and Titleist T-MB) and feel that the overall profile was the more compact of the 3. Although a hair smaller, intimidation factor is minimal. Graphics and Aesthetics: This is where Lynx put the cherry on top. The graphics as you can see are extremely minimal with just the cat logo in the upper toe, the brand and the model. What I love is that there doesn’t appear to be any extra unnecessary paint fill or excessive lines or graphics. Just the club number and that’s it. On the chrome models, it just appears as if the graphics are laser-etched or milled and that’s it. Another part that I love is that the clubs aren’t just shiny chrome. They’re a brushed look, almost as if you can see the grains of steel running through the clubs. Player appeal: I will definitely say that there was no shortage of player appeal. The clubs stick out but not in a bad way at all. It’s been fun to see the double and then triple takes from people as they first notice how attractive the clubs are and then you know they’re going to look to see which major OEM makes them.. then they realize they’re Lynx clubs, and then you see them go into “buffering mode” with the rotating hourglass in their heads as the “does not compute” message pops up.. and then the conversation begins. Wear and Tear: So far, there doesn’t appear to be any more wear than would be expected. There’s some bag chatter marks but nothing excessive or unexpected. I don’t cover the heads and I pretty much just keep my clubs in my trunk at all times so I’d say they’re wearing just fine considering. If you look closely at the bottoms, there are some turf/soil scratch lines but they’re not very noticeable as the finish blends with the scratches. Sound & Feel (5 ot of 10 points) This category is probably going to be the hardest to judge. While the feel is going to get a high grade, the sound will definitely drag the curve down. Lets start with the not-so-good: The sound in general isn’t completely horrible. 3 through about 5 iron sound fantastic with a very powerful crack and an addictive feel to accompany the sound. 6 and 7 sound fine but with a slight ting introduced and the feel is equal to the aforementioned so really no issues there. When you get to the shorter clubs is where the cacophony is unleashed. It’s almost like you have a choir of clubs singing in perfect harmony only to be accompanied by a bag of broken glass as the instrumental. The sound becomes so piercing that you forget how good they feel. The biggest downside to me is that there is such a dramatic range of acoustics from 3i to PW and this to me is a rather sizeable con. Lynx, if I could give one golden nugget of an improvement to HEAVILY consider with the Prowler VT’s it would be to add some sort of sound dampening polymer (similar to the Black Cats) or possibly even consider a single piece for the upper end of the set (8 – PW). Let’s change the tune a little: Feel; When struck purely these feel AMAZING! Lets be very clear about something. They don’t feel as soft as a single piece forged club does but it’s a completely different feeling. With the hollow head design, you’re getting more of a trampoline effect. The ball literally springs of the face like it’s being blasted out of a cannon. When you’re in a good swing groove, it’s a rather addictive feeling that just makes you giggle with each hit. The one negative about the feel is that when struck more toward the toe (my miss), the feel can become pretty harsh and the sound definitely lets the world know that you messed up. That’s not such a bad thing though because it definitely lets you know that you mis-struck and need to make some adjustments. Basic Characteristics (14 out of 20 points) Initial Premise: Before the testing began, I had stated that I wanted to use the stronger lofts to a different advantage rather than being able to tell people that I can hit a 7 iron 200 yds. My overall objective was to see if I could slow my swing speed down (yes deliberately) and improve my disbursement and overall consistency while keeping my original yardage. Well I’ll say this right away, it didn’t quite turn out how I’d hoped. Slowing down an established tempo and swing speed to attempt to meet a specific yardage is very difficult. Swing speed and tempo need to be organic and natural to each person with a full commitment to swing through and compress the ball. When you’re trying to manipulate the swing to meet a specific number, it then just becomes unnatural and disconnected. Ultimately in order to have to most controlled and consistent disbursement and distance, I needed to be fully committed in my swing. All things being equal calling it an extra club or however you choose to look at it, the problem that I ran into was that with a fully committed 45* extremely hot-faced PW shot, I was seeing around 145 – 150 yds of carry v.s. my current forged 46* CB PW that might max out at 135 yds. Well my Gap wedge (50*) distance is around 125, 52* around 115, 56* @ 105, and 60* at 100. See the problem? With the VT’s, there is a sizeable gap of roughly 25 yds between my PW and GW. This often left me with ¾ PW shots that just weren’t nearly as accurate as a full shot could be. KBS Tour 90 Shaft: This is topic that I know at least some might be interested in. When we were in the pre-build stage of the process, we were initially given the option of a KBS Tour 90 and Tour V. I immediately took to my home away from home (PGATSS) and put together what I thought would be the closest thing to the Prowler VT (Titleist T-MB) with both shaft options to compare the differences and determine which one would work best for me. I had decided that the Tour V best suited my swing. Later we were informed that the Tour V option was not going to be made available to us. No biggie, just a communication misstep. I was however a bit bummed because the Tour 90 for me was just higher flying and spinning than I preferred. Gift Horse scenario right? So I just had to quickly get over it and move on. I quickly found out shortly after receiving the clubs that I was missing absolutely nothing with the tour 90’s. Paired with the VT heads, the flight is mid-penetrating without the ballooning that I was seeing with the T-MB. The shaft loads and releases beautifully and feels very smooth and is something that I can play the entire round without any concerns of fatigue. There are absolutely no “what-if’s” running around in my had regarding the KBS Tour V. When you get to the distance irons 3 - 5 you really see something special with the ball flight. It’s just a mid-low blistering missile that almost has you thinking twice a bout using driver off the tee on par 4’s. In fact, I’ve started using the 3 iron more off the tee almost regularly when the hole is less than 350 yds out. I mentioned earlier that when struck off the toe, the sound and feeling is less than desirable. Well to accompany that is the dramatic loss of distance. I did notice that a toe strike would result in a distance loss of 15 – 20 yds.. OUCH. One would think that this is normal for most player’s type clubs right? But when a major selling point is a variable face thickness to help reduce the damage on off-center hits, this can become a bit frustrating, especially after you’ve just shelled out $800 for clubs that you hoped would give you a hug after a mishit and tell you everything’s gonna be OK.. and not a kick in the biscuits. The clubs are completely workable for those shapers out there. As you can see from the video, I was able to manipulate a series of shots. I’m not the most consistent and accurate shaper of the ball but I know how when needed and the VT’s work beautifully. On-Course Performance (20 out of 30 points) On the course is where I would say the irons shine the most.. and I’m glad for that. Theses clubs really are made for play and not just show. I mentioned that I pretty much sent the Maltbys to summer camp so the VT’s could get all of the attention that they deserved. An initial concern with a new set of clubs will always be about transition time and getting used to the new sticks. I’ve been playing a club with a similar profile so there were no issues getting used to the size. I actually prefer the profile a little better over my Maltbys. The thicker top line helps add a pinch of confidence and the weighting is just right so you get a good sense of where the club head is at all times. As I mentioned previously, toe strikes seem to be more punishing than other clubs in the category. Not sure about the heel end of the club as I don’t have a tendency to hit toward the heel. I played a good 10 rounds with the VT’s and had probably 15 launch monitor sessions and while I will say that I was really making some good improvements with my Maltby DBM’s before being chosen as a test candidate, I didn’t take any significant steps backward with the VT’s. These seemed to plug and play pretty easily into my game. If anything, going through the testing process has allowed me to make some much-needed swing adjustments. Do I believe that the clubs themselves have helped me improve? Unfortunately no they have not. STRENGTHS · Looks · Distance · Feel · Inspire confidence at address · Workability · Consistency when struck well · Retail price for set is moderate compared to competitors · Fairly soft casting allows for loft/lie adjustment · Wear and Tear so far seems moderate and what would be expected WEAKNESSES · Sound with higher irons · Sound variations · Drastic loss of distance on mishits · Limited in customization options with shafts or grips. · Lack of available detailed specs · Not sure about living up to the claim of being a “Player’s Iron with forgiveness” Miscellaneous (5 out of 10 points) For this category I would probably add Lynx Golf as a company. Currently they are working to improve their presence as a major OEM. This test is testimony that they’re working to move in the right direction by putting their product into the hands of enthusiastic consumers like us. Noteworthy accomplishments · Full club lineup to fit most levels of golf · Some groundbreaking tech that could make waves (Switch Face Driver) · Excellent customer service experience: · Environmental awareness proactivity Areas for Improvement · Color schemes are a tad outdated on some models · Unclear Vision: They claim to be ready to compete with major OEM’s but still appear to be a boutique company. It appears that quite a few things need to happen before they can make this claim. · Website: It has been communicated that the website is going to be improved but that hasn’t happened so its hard to know. · Lack of detail regarding club tech and specs. · Quality Control: When I received my clubs, the first thing that I did was have the lofts and lies checked. I had ordered everything to be built at ½* upright from Lynx’s stated lies. To my and my club tech’s disappointment, we found that nearly every club was off from what was ordered. Some clubs were off by as much as 3 full degrees in either loft or lie and.. some both. Additionally, I was one of the 2 who ordered the chrome set. I also received what we were explained was a prototype 7 iron for the next batch that had an off-center rubber plug punched into the toe. Additionally I received a 5 iron that sounded like a baby rattle. Apparently the hole in the toe of the 7 iron was put there to avoid having pieces of casting debris get stuck in the heads therefore eliminating the rattle like that in my 5 iron. While the customer service was outstanding in sending out a quick replacement, I received 2 clubs with holes in the toe and rubber plugs when we were initially told that we shouldn't have received those clubs. · Open foundry models: The forged Tour and CB are clearly open foundry models and not original Lynx Designs. That really isn’t a problem as the irons are nice looking and undoubtedly perform well but this isn’t something that major OEM’s would do therefore adding to the confusion as to the direction of the company. Play it or Trade it? (12 out of 20 points) So recently I posted a teaser letting the group know that I just received my gamers (Maltby DBM’s) back from my father last week. I hadn’t picked them up for nearly 2 months. I took them to the range for the reunion session and I was just in love all over again. I realized that while this short-lived fling with the Prowler VT’s was fun and exciting, that my DBM’s are really where my heart lies. The extra level of feel, sound, playability, consistency, looks, etc are just what I’ve been missing for that past 2 months. I took them to my favorite exec course yesterday (Rolling Hills) and in AZ dust storm conditions shot a 64 which is just 2 over par for the course. As a result of fostering my clubs during the testing period, my father demanded that I have him an identical set made through the Golfworks. Short story long.. Unfortunately I won’t be gaming the VT’s. The 3 iron however will be staying in the bag and added to the list of "cold dead hands" clubs. Conclusion Is the cat back? Without a doubt. With what we’ve witnessed from Lynx golf up to this point, I feel confident that these reviews will be read by decision-makers and seriously considered. My prediction is that in the next 5 years we’ll be seeing the “Cat” on few tour bags and a club lineup offered at major retailers that will be a formidable competitor to the big brands. Final Score: 66/100 Edited September 16, 2019 by azstu324 MDGolfHacker, edingc, fixyurdivot and 6 others 9 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimNantzsToast Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Stage 1 is up! Link StrokerAce 1 Quote Tommy Armour 845 10.5* Rogue 3W King F7 5W Sub70 939 3H Lynx Black Cat // King F8 5i-GW Tour-S 54*/12* Adams Tom Watson 58*/8* Tommy Armour 303 Milled Habanero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, JimNantzsToast said: Stage 1 is up! Link Nice work! JimNantzsToast 1 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, TM Sim2 19*, Cobra F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Cleveland HB Soft #1 w/UST Ball- Maxfli Tour X/Wilson Triad Buggy- Clicgear 4.0 Bag- Callaway Org 14/Fairway C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kardboard.kid Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Stage #1 is up. sirchunksalot, Nunfa0, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote F7+ w/Fujikura Pro XLR8 Graphite Shaft 3-I MPF H-Series3B2M graphite Shaft w/Winn Dri-Tac grip mid STi Irons 5-SW KURO KAGE 70IR Flex-R Lamkin Grips King F6 Hybrid Matrix Red Tie HQ4 Graphite Shaft Forged FGT 60* wedge KURO KAGE 70R SS cross Comfort grip O-Putter 1W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Stage 1 is up! Golfspy_CG2 and sirchunksalot 2 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightsofnii Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Stage 1 up! Knightsofnii's Lynx Black Cat Irons Review: Stage 1 Golfspy_CG2 1 Quote RADspeed 10.5, Motore X F3 R Bio Cell 3/4w, Project X PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. Aldila RIP 70 R; King Utility 4i, UST Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap S 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), Project X LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 I played in a 4-man today and hit a Prowler VT 7-iron 158 yds to 7 feet. Left the birdie putt 2 feet short but won the closet to the pin. I’m not sure we made a putt over 8 feet all day but still managed a respectable 6 under. The more I play with these irons the more I like them. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Shankster, sirchunksalot, goaliewales14 and 2 others 5 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russtopherb Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Good Stage 1's so far fellas! The condition of those boxes had me cringing though... yikes! sirchunksalot, GolfSpy_BNG and Golfspy_CG2 3 Quote In my carry bag: ST-X 10.5* Kai'li Blue R Flex ST-Z 15* Kai/li Blue R Flex ST-Z 4h Linq Blue R Flex Launcher 5h Launcher CBX 6i-PW CBX 54* & 58* Huntington Beach #10 e12 Contact CURRENTLY TESTING - Mizuno Long Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Good Stage 1's so far fellas! The condition of those boxes had me cringing though... yikes!Thanks Russ. You weren't the only one who cringed when seeing the condition of the box. My wife actually called me right after they were delivered saying that the box was in really bad shape. Luckily steel shafts are pretty resilient. Sent from my Moto Z3 Play using MyGolfSpy mobile app sirchunksalot, russtopherb and Golfspy_CG2 3 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightsofnii Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, blackngold_blood said: ...but still managed a respectable 6 under. The more I play with these irons the more I like them. A what??? Jesus, nice going!! GolfSpy_BNG and sirchunksalot 2 Quote RADspeed 10.5, Motore X F3 R Bio Cell 3/4w, Project X PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. Aldila RIP 70 R; King Utility 4i, UST Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap S 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), Project X LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightsofnii Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 This was a shot from left rough with a 6i. And here you can see my typical toeward bias. Golfspy_CG2, Nunfa0, kardboard.kid and 2 others 5 Quote RADspeed 10.5, Motore X F3 R Bio Cell 3/4w, Project X PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. Aldila RIP 70 R; King Utility 4i, UST Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap S 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), Project X LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightsofnii Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Even if it's a 4man scramble, -6 is really good!! GolfSpy_BNG 1 Quote RADspeed 10.5, Motore X F3 R Bio Cell 3/4w, Project X PXV 6.0s; AMP 3h 19deg Aldila RIP R. Bio Cell 4h 22.5deg PXV R. Aldila RIP 70 R; King Utility 4i, UST Recoil 780 ES SmacWrap S 2021/22 T200 5-7, T100 8-P (bent 1deg strong), Project X LZ 5.5 CBX-2 50/11 ATV 56/16deg Impact No.3 Align putter Caddie for tracking. Pro V1X balls Previous forum tests: 2019: Golf Pride Tour Velvet Plus 4 grips, Lynx Black Cat 5-PW. 2020: LX5 Watch. 2021: Impact #3 Align putter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BNG Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Even if it's a 4man scramble, -6 is really good!!Yeah we played alright. I ended up leaving before all the teams were done but I believe -8 won it. I managed to leave 2 birdie putts short by a total of 4” but with the group I played with I was happy with the outcome. If you would have offered me -3 or -4 before we started, I would have taken it and ran. I will say the Prowler VT’s performance wasn’t lacking in any way whatsoever. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy sirchunksalot and knightsofnii 2 Quote What is in my Sun Mountain C-130 bag or Jones MyGolfSpy bag Driver: Dark speed LS 8* set to -1.5* with an Attas Daaas 4x shaft @ 45” Fairway: F85 3 wood with a XPhplexx Agera X @ 42.5” F85 5 wood with a UST Elements Chrome 7F5 @ 41.5" Driving Iron: Rapture 2-Iron Irons: SMS Pros 4-PW with Steelfiber I95s Wedges: SMS 50* T grind with Steelfiber i110s Glide 4.0 46* zz wedge shaft Glide 4.0 E grind 54* zz wedge shaft Putters: Mezz.1 34” 69* lie EV5.1 black 33.5” 69* lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azstu324 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Stage 1 complete! Oh you wanna click me.... Edited July 28, 2019 by azstu324 Nunfa0 1 Quote PXG 0311 Gen 5 9°/ Fujikura MotoreX F1 6X F6 3 Wood 14* / Kuro Kage Silver 65X F8 6 wood 20* / Fujikura MotoreX F3 6S RADSpeed Hybrid 24* TS1 4-GW / FCM Precision 6.5 Rifle TSW Wedge - 56/12 EAS 1.0 / Grip master 2.0 MAXFLI Tour CG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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