FrogginBullfish 710 #1 Posted August 2, 2019 So the Most Wanted Hybrid results for 2019 came out today. True to form, performance is king after all, the most wanted hybrid is the now replaced Titleist 818H1. Start looking for those discounts fellow spies lol. Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MattF 7,104 #2 Posted August 2, 2019 I'm surprised the CBX119 didn't make it higher on the list. Quote In the bag: M5 Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 Fairway: Sub 70 939X 15° Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 CBX 119 19° hybrid Project X Even Flow Blue 6.0 KE4 Tour HDI 4 21°, 23° and 25° UST Mamiya Recoil 680 F4 Tour B JGR 4-GW UST Mamiya Recoil 680 F4 Smartsole S Tracy Bag: Alpha Convoy 514 Balls: MTB-X Cart: CaddyLite ONE Ver. 8 God Bless America, God save the Queen, God defend New Zealand and thank Christ for Australia! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Webz59 83 #3 Posted August 2, 2019 My Cobra F9 hybrids are extremely accurate, forgiving, and have a great feel. Like them better than my Titleist hybridsSent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltenator 174 #4 Posted August 7, 2019 I changed from Titleist to TM M6 hybrids this year, and I love them. I think golf equipment is way too subjective to state what's best for everyone. Quote C130 USA bag Driver - 0811XF - Tensei Ck Orange - 65 G Stiff 3 Wood - M6 - Tensei CK Orange - 65 G Stiff 19* & 22* Hybrids - M6 - Tensei CK Orange - 82 G Stiff Irons & Wedges- 0211 5-PW, GW, SW, LW 45*. 50*, 54*, 60* - True Temper Elevate Tour 117 G Stiff All wrapped in Standard Gray/Red Dri-Tacs Putter - - Mustang - 33" - 5.0 FATSO Ball - TP5 Tracked with V2 I'm a righty from Mechanicsville, VA (Richmond Area) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 9,881 #5 Posted August 7, 2019 I changed from Titleist to TM M6 hybrids this year, and I love them. I think golf equipment is way too subjective to state what's best for everyone.Hit enough clubs/shafts and look at the numbers you will see that it is less subjective and more objective. People fit into categories and you can map out what will work best for a particular player. This is how fittings work; whether it is looking at numbers on a launch monitor and changing things based on personal experience/knowledge or using tools like the mizuno shaft optimizer. You will also find that people respond differently to the looks of a club and the looks will influence your swing. 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* with UST Proforce V2 Fairway: TS3 15* set w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: 765 6-AW with KBS Tour shafts Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: 6330, ER2.2, Ten S Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maltenator 174 #6 Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, cnosil said: Hit enough clubs/shafts and look at the numbers you will see that it is less subjective and more objective. People fit into categories and you can map out what will work best for a particular player. This is how fittings work; whether it is looking at numbers on a launch monitor and changing things based on personal experience/knowledge or using tools like the mizuno shaft optimizer. You will also find that people respond differently to the looks of a club and the looks will influence your swing. I agree 100% with this, I meant subjective as in feel similar to taste of food. There are too many variants, and opinions with subjectivity. What one may like in feel or in taste another would not. 1 Quote C130 USA bag Driver - 0811XF - Tensei Ck Orange - 65 G Stiff 3 Wood - M6 - Tensei CK Orange - 65 G Stiff 19* & 22* Hybrids - M6 - Tensei CK Orange - 82 G Stiff Irons & Wedges- 0211 5-PW, GW, SW, LW 45*. 50*, 54*, 60* - True Temper Elevate Tour 117 G Stiff All wrapped in Standard Gray/Red Dri-Tacs Putter - - Mustang - 33" - 5.0 FATSO Ball - TP5 Tracked with V2 I'm a righty from Mechanicsville, VA (Richmond Area) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jlukes 11,731 #7 Posted August 7, 2019 My Titleist 818 H2 has been in my bag the longest out of all my clubs. Absolutely love it 2 Quote In my BR-D4 Stand Bag G410 Plus Ping 9* VA Nemesys 65FIVE G410 LST 14.5* VA Vylyn 75FIVE 818 H2 20* Tour AD DI 85X JPX 919 Tour 4-PW Oban CT 115 X(-) Vokey SM7 49 F - 54 S - 59 D M Craft II Tour B X SuperSpeed Forum Tester Initial Driver Speed on Provided Monitor: 109 MPH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jfoz89 18 #8 Posted August 27, 2019 I've been playing Mizuno CLK 19 degree and have recently decided to put the 22 degree in the bag taking out my 4 iron. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jddaigneault 277 #9 Posted August 29, 2019 I’m curious why the GAPR never appear in any reviews for most wanted. Do they just not fit in a category, or is the opinion just that they’re awful clubs? I’m not the biggest hybrid fan, as I miss left with them a lot. I need something for the long end of the bag that is solid out of the rough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogginBullfish 710 #10 Posted August 29, 2019 TaylorMade, along with Callaway, Scotty Cameron and Ben Hogan, declined to participate in Most Wanted testing so MGS had to purchase clubs from each category to test.They chose to test the M6 as its the only new hybrid in TM's lineup. The GAPR Hi could be considered a hybrid but it's more of a hybrid/utility iron combo than a true hybrid. The Mid and Lo are pretty well straight up utility irons comparable to Titleist's U500 and U510.I think TM kind of missed the mark with the GAPR line. They're not a big seller, I don't think, and apart from being in some bags at the 2018 Open Championship, there's not been much tour use. Most guys have stuck with the P790 UDI in that region of the bag. I’m curious why the GAPR never appear in any reviews for most wanted. Do they just not fit in a category, or is the opinion just that they’re awful clubs? I’m not the biggest hybrid fan, as I miss left with them a lot. I need something for the long end of the bag that is solid out of the rough. Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogginBullfish 710 #11 Posted August 29, 2019 I would suggest testing some hybrids that have flat settings on the adjustable hosel. Ping G410 would be a good one to give a try. I’m curious why the GAPR never appear in any reviews for most wanted. Do they just not fit in a category, or is the opinion just that they’re awful clubs? I’m not the biggest hybrid fan, as I miss left with them a lot. I need something for the long end of the bag that is solid out of the rough. Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 9,881 #12 Posted August 29, 2019 I’m curious why the GAPR never appear in any reviews for most wanted. Do they just not fit in a category, or is the opinion just that they’re awful clubs? I’m not the biggest hybrid fan, as I miss left with them a lot. I need something for the long end of the bag that is solid out of the rough. GAPR clubs are considered utility irons and are part of that most wanted testing group. Testing should be wrapping up, I finished a week or so with utility resting, so results should be a few weeks out. 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* with UST Proforce V2 Fairway: TS3 15* set w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: 765 6-AW with KBS Tour shafts Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: 6330, ER2.2, Ten S Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shankster 20,907 #13 Posted August 29, 2019 GAPR clubs are considered utility irons and are part of that most wanted testing group. Testing should be wrapping up, I finished a week or so with utility resting, so results should be a few weeks out. Nice! Can’t wait to see how this one goes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnosil 9,881 #14 Posted August 29, 2019 Nice! Can’t wait to see how this one goes. For me: I hate utility irons. I am really inconsistent with them and struggle to get enough spin. Would need to really work on technique to put one in the bag. In my opinion, utility irons are for players with mid to high swing speeds. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* with UST Proforce V2 Fairway: TS3 15* set w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: 765 6-AW with KBS Tour shafts Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: 6330, ER2.2, Ten S Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jddaigneault 277 #15 Posted August 30, 2019 20 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said: I would suggest testing some hybrids that have flat settings on the adjustable hosel. Ping G410 would be a good one to give a try. Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app I’ve hit the g410, it feels amazing but misses left a lot. I have a very fast swing speed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jddaigneault 277 #16 Posted August 30, 2019 12 hours ago, cnosil said: GAPR clubs are considered utility irons and are part of that most wanted testing group. Testing should be wrapping up, I finished a week or so with utility resting, so results should be a few weeks out. Looking forward to seeing the results. I just miss hybrids left too often, and need a better option out of the rough on par 5s. Besides, you know, the fairway. Wouldn’t that be nice... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogginBullfish 710 #17 Posted August 30, 2019 Fast swing speed doesn't have much to do with it going left. Something else is causing that. A lot of hybrids are more upright which tends to make them go left for a lot of players. It's why I suggested the G410 as it's one of the few hybrids out there that has the ability to flatten the lie angle through the adjustable hosel which should mitigate the left shot, if dynamic lie is the root cause of those left shots. I’ve hit the g410, it feels amazing but misses left a lot. I have a very fast swing speed. Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jddaigneault 277 #18 Posted August 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, FrogginBullfish said: Fast swing speed doesn't have much to do with it going left. Something else is causing that. A lot of hybrids are more upright which tends to make them go left for a lot of players. It's why I suggested the G410 as it's one of the few hybrids out there that has the ability to flatten the lie angle through the adjustable hosel which should mitigate the left shot, if dynamic lie is the root cause of those left shots. Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Interesting. A lot of the research I’ve done has hybrids tending to miss left with higher swing speeds. I’ve messed with loft and lie, still left with incredible consistency. I have to try and slice the ball to hit it straight. Never have that problem with woods or irons. Which drives me insane because the ball feels fantastic coming off the face of the g410s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogginBullfish 710 #19 Posted August 30, 2019 Not sure the cause then. You'd have to analyze your club data to really understand what's causing it with your swing. Have you been testing on a launch monitor? Interesting. A lot of the research I’ve done has hybrids tending to miss left with higher swing speeds. I’ve messed with loft and lie, still left with incredible consistency. I have to try and slice the ball to hit it straight. Never have that problem with woods or irons. Which drives me insane because the ball feels fantastic coming off the face of the g410s. Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jddaigneault 277 #20 Posted August 30, 2019 16 hours ago, FrogginBullfish said: Not sure the cause then. You'd have to analyze your club data to really understand what's causing it with your swing. Have you been testing on a launch monitor? Sent from my Pixel 2 using MyGolfSpy mobile app Yeah, the only cause could be my angle of attack tends to be slightly steep. Not sure if that would make a huge difference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
