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13 hours ago, Shankster said:

I personally can’t wait for the Rory vs Brooks Ryder Cup when they are Captains.

That’d be show business.

Happy that BK didn't win...he comes off as an egotistical a...

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12 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

Happy that BK didn't win...he comes off as an egotistical a...

On one hand, I agree.  He's probably not somebody I would choose to spend time around.  On the other hand, I love the fact that his egotism allows him to get after other players.  Bryson isn't somebody I would choose to spend time around either.  And guys like him need to be called out for their garbage. 

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12 minutes ago, sixcat said:

On one hand, I agree.  He's probably not somebody I would choose to spend time around.  On the other hand, I love the fact that his egotism allows him to get after other players.  Bryson isn't somebody I would choose to spend time around either.  And guys like him need to be called out for their garbage. 

Pretty sure if I was offered the chance to play a Pro-Am with him I'd decline.... he probably doesn't say a word to the am he's paired with....he seems to have a "holier than thou" attitude. Bryson is just quirky.

But...it was a good season...not as much drama as in the past.  

Good to see the new schedule change doesn't conflict with the football season.  When that starts I don't even think about watching the PGA....it's boring enough as it is.

Rory was supposed to get his career slam this year but fell short... great player and when he drives accurately and putts well, forget about it.  Happy to hear him with a little dig of Brooks in the interview about how he wanted payback for Memphis.

Hopefully he can get his Masters next year.

Chalk one up for the fit golfers... they look like athletes and played like athletes.  Glad to see that.

Turning the corner.....LET'S GO PATRIOTS !!

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The other sports focus on money. We hear about contract holdouts, free agency, and not reporting to camp because they don’t make enough. Other sports are “salaries” and they have a contract that dictates what they will be paid for a period of time. Golf is more of an “hourly” job and you are never guaranteed to get money. How many golfers get a TV show to announce their signings like Lebron. The money factor with golf is really only discussed when talking about the FedEx cup so it has been a topic over the past few weeks.



See there I was ignorant to that because I don’t watch those sports. Good to know.

Still think it takes away from the game though.
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49 minutes ago, cnosil said:

 


The other sports focus on money. We hear about contract holdouts, free agency, and not reporting to camp because they don’t make enough. Other sports are “salaries” and they have a contract that dictates what they will be paid for a period of time. Golf is more of an “hourly” job and you are never guaranteed to get money. How many golfers get a TV show to announce their signings like Lebron. The money factor with golf is really only discussed when talking about the FedEx cup so it has been a topic over the past few weeks.
 

 

Nailed it. Employees that are part of a union with collective bargaining agreements compared to individual contractors who get paid only when they work and meet the minimum requirements for the weeks task aka make the cut. Unlike the paid endorsement deals for athletes of team sports that add to their either fully guaranteed contracts like baseball or partially guaranteed like football, golfers use them to offset their income

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I think Brooks is largely misunderstood, misquoted, or taken out of context. He's a straight shooter and he keeps things simple. You can see it in his press conferences. It's not that other players don't think along similar lines, they just don't say it out loud. I'd be happy to spend the day with someone like Brooks because when the day is over, you'd know exactly where you sit with him.

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13 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

Turning the corner.....LET'S GO PATRIOTS !!

Oh lord!  You lost me there!

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1 minute ago, sixcat said:

Oh lord!  You lost me there!

Guessing you must be a Redskins fan since you're in VA...and in that case, you have my sympathies. 

Dan Snyder is slowly destroying a once great franchise.

But...don't mean to derail the topic.

 

BEST thing about the playoffs this year - VERY BEST THING is that the format isn't the main topic of discussion.... man that would have been terrible.  

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1 minute ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

Guessing you must be a Redskins fan since you're in VA...and in that case, you have my sympathies. 

Dan Snyder is slowly destroying a once great franchise.

Living in southwest Virginia means you're really not a part of Virginia at all......sadly!  Richmond believes the the part of Virginia west of Blacksburg and Virginia Tech belongs to someone else.  I live 340 miles from FedEx Field and 112 miles from Bank of America Stadium.  The folks in southwest Virginia identify more with North Carolina and Tennessee, depending on how far west in SWVA you go.

With that said, Dan Snyder may be the worst owner in professional sports.  I don't have a "favorite" NFL team.  I grew up feeling isolated from major sports teams because we were so far removed from them.  The Carolina Panthers didn't exist yet and the Titans were still in Houston.  Which means the Atlanta teams were closest to us.

It's always fascinated me that the western most point of Virginia is further west than Detroit!  Oddly shaped state with very different demographics the further east you travel.

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5 minutes ago, sixcat said:

Living in southwest Virginia means you're really not a part of Virginia at all......sadly!  Richmond believes the the part of Virginia west of Blacksburg and Virginia Tech belongs to someone else.  I live 340 miles from FedEx Field and 112 miles from Bank of America Stadium.  The folks in southwest Virginia identify more with North Carolina and Tennessee, depending on how far west in SWVA you go.

With that said, Dan Snyder may be the worst owner in professional sports.  I don't have a "favorite" NFL team.  I grew up feeling isolated from major sports teams because we were so far removed from them.  The Carolina Panthers didn't exist yet and the Titans were still in Houston.  Which means the Atlanta teams were closest to us.

It's always fascinated me that the western most point of Virginia is further west than Detroit!  Oddly shaped state with very different demographics the further east you travel.

Yeah... I grew up outside of Eugene OR and the only pro sports team in the state is the Trailblazers....I get what you're saying.

I became a fan of what was on the television most Sundays in my area - The 49ers.... but not a die hard; Since I moved to the Boston area 20 y/ago I jumped on the Pats bandwagon.

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3 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

Yeah... I grew up outside of Eugene OR and the only pro sports team in the state is the Trailblazers....I get what you're saying.

I became a fan of what was on the television most Sundays in my area - The 49ers.... but not a die hard; Since I moved to the Boston area 20 y/ago I jumped on the Pats bandwagon.

I have gone to a few Panthers and Hornets games through the years but haven't jumped on the bandwagon.  I tend to like players and they change teams so often, it's hard to build an allegiance. 

My brother has lived in the Charlotte area for nearly 20 years and he hasn't jumped on the bandwagon either.  

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59 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said:

Guessing you must be a Redskins fan since you're in VA...and in that case, you have my sympathies. 

Dan Snyder is slowly destroying a once great franchise.

But...don't mean to derail the topic.

 

BEST thing about the playoffs this year - VERY BEST THING is that the format isn't the main topic of discussion.... man that would have been terrible.  

Saw somewhere yesterday that he would have won the event and cup under the old format.

im sure if someone who was near the bottom at the start played well and fell a little short of a mediocre JT there would have been discussion about the format 

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40 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Saw somewhere yesterday that he would have won the event and cup under the old format.

im sure if someone who was near the bottom at the start played well and fell a little short of a mediocre JT there would have been discussion about the format 

In my mind, had JT pulled it off, it would have been like a wildcard team winning the Super Bowl - play well enough over the "regular" season to get in, and get hot when it matters. With that same analogy, I don't think he deserved the two stroke head start he received as his season long play was not that good.

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17 minutes ago, MaxEntropy said:

In my mind, had JT pulled it off, it would have been like a wildcard team winning the Super Bowl - play well enough over the "regular" season to get in, and get hot when it matters. With that same analogy, I don't think he deserved the two stroke head start he received as his season long play was not that good.

Considering he missed time due to injury and player several events with the injury before stepping away his season was pretty good. He deserved what he earned which was the top spot going into the championship.

Golfers for the most part don’t just luck into anything. They make get some breaks but in this era with the depth of field things are earned more than given 

he had a bunch of top 10s early, struggled a little before and after the masters then played well from The Open thru the playoffs.

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I like that, but what about September through January?

I don’t like football that much.

That’s where the “World Tour” should go. But I guess everyone needs a break, all sports have an off season.


Another thing I’d like to see them tone back is the thing. I watched 2 hours and all I heard was bonus, money, cash, cars.... that is setting a terrible example for the up and comers (kids).

What other sport is money talked about so much? Yes they are paid large sums of money to play basketball, football, baseball etc. but they don’t focus on that.

Yes it is cool that they win 15 mil. But it takes away from the golf I think.


They do that because it's the ONLY thing that adds drama to it. It's the only reason theses guys are nervous. To be clear - I totally agree - but that is the whole thing with the FedEx Cup.


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Considering he missed time due to injury and player several events with the injury before stepping away his season was pretty good. He deserved what he earned which was the top spot going into the championship.
Golfers for the most part don’t just luck into anything. They make get some breaks but in this era with the depth of field things are earned more than given 
he had a bunch of top 10s early, struggled a little before and after the masters then played well from The Open thru the playoffs.


We may complain about things but they know the way it works before the season starts. He did play well down the stretch and earned earned what he earned.

Rory had a great start and end to the season - he was the best player in all the Fed Ex tournaments. Brooks won the majors portion so he was POY while Rory won the Fed Ex cup - I think that was reasonable. They got what they earned by their play.

It’s not a bad rhythm. This week we get the Korn Ferry finals which will be very exciting as guys get their cards for next year. The following week we get to see the newbies try out their chops and meet them throughout the fall season if we want to watch - there’s still pretty good golf going on for those of us who wish to watch it.


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The playoff events shouldn't be worth so many points... Majors should be worth more points.

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5 hours ago, Kenny B said:

The playoff events shouldn't be worth so many points... Majors should be worth more points.

The majors are worth more points than other events and other wgc as well. The playoffs are an elimination event so those who earned their spot now have the change to be rewarded more for their play against the top guys for the season.

the playoffs on other sports are more important than the regular season.

if the tour wants to improve the fields during the year then don’t count the playoffs as events that qualify under the 25 event rule if one chooses not to play an event they haven’t played i 4 years or for those that did make that choice the playoffs don’t count towards the minimum a player needs to maintain their card

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7 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

The majors are worth more points than other events and other wgc as well. The playoffs are an elimination event so those who earned their spot now have the change to be rewarded more for their play against the top guys for the season.

the playoffs on other sports are more important than the regular season.

if the tour wants to improve the fields during the year then don’t count the playoffs as events that qualify under the 25 event rule if one chooses not to play an event they haven’t played i 4 years or for those that did make that choice the playoffs don’t count towards the minimum a player needs to maintain their card

The issue really is that we and the PGA Tour are imposing the way other sports work on Golf.  For Golf it has been about the Majors since Bobby Jones made it about the Majors and Jack Nicklaus' ratified Jones' record by talking so much about it.  Since then it has been about the Majors.  

There's little doubt that the Player's Championship boasts a tougher field than the Majors and it is played on a top course that everyone agrees favors no one.  But it can't crack those four and probably never will.  Honestly the Golf Playoffs are nothing more than a glorified skins game.  None of the tournaments has any sort of history behind it - Did Ben Hogan ever win the Northern Trust? 

Like it or not history matters in Golf - That is very unlikely to change given that those who love the game love its history.  We are going to gravitate towards the majors as markers for a successful season.  My guess would be that Rory would trade the 15 millions dollars for one of the majors this past year in a heartbeat.  He'd probably trade every penny that he earned this season and last for a Masters (he'd make more than that later anyway.) 

The best thing about the Playoffs is they keep the better players around later into the season. 

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