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One of the things I love about this forum is how the moderators challenge us, as testers, to do things in these reviews to really put the products to the test. I was thinking back over the Cobra Connect Challenge thread and decided to do a four club challenge today. I only played nine holes since it's nearly 100 degrees and really humid. This is something I would never, ever do in a million years of I was just regularly playing, so thanks to both the moderators and CC Challenge competitors for the inspiration.

The clubs:20190913_134040-01.jpeg

I went with the 4, 7, AW, and putter for this round. I figured the 4 iron would be good off the tee, the 7 iron would take care of the mid range shots and the par threes, and the AW for everything else. I had to really think about the par threes, one is playing 130 and the other was playing 160. I figured I would have to ease up on the first one and knew I would have a chip on the second. Also, knowing the roll out with the wedges, I thought the most lofted of the Atomics was probably my best bet.

It all started out so good, I hit the fairway on the first hole. I then bladed the wedge on the second shot and ended up pin high to the right. I then hit a great chip shot to 3 feet and made the putt for par. 20190913_134702-01.jpeg

The second hole I hit the 7 iron 122 and right, chipped up to 6 feet, where I promptly two putted. Then the wheels feel off.

Blocked my drive on the third, which became a theme for the round, hit a tree and was left with a shot off a hard lie that I put into another tree. Hit a knockdown to get back into the fairway, then hit a wedge shot 45 feet past the hole. Needless to say that led to one of two three putts for the day. Screenshot_20190913-180337.jpeg

Hole four was more of the same. Block, knockdown, wedge, wedge, three putt. So much for the good start, I'm now 7 over through 4.

I bogeyed the fifth hole and made par on the sixth after hitting another AW to 4 feet.

The next two holes are the par fives, and were really what I was worried about before the round. I ended up with a double on the seventh after hitting a tree with both my drive and a wedge after pulling a 7 iron. I finished that hole with a double.

On the eighth, I bladed the 4 iron that travelled a whopping 51 yards, blocked the second into a tree (again), hit another 4 iron that went between two trees (miracle). I then hit a 7 iron that landed in the creek and got lucky that the water was down and still had a shot from the creek bed. Hit a hot chip over the green. That left me with a downhill chip that I managed to get to 8 feet and a two putt. Triple.

My drive on the final hole again went right, into a pond. I then hit a good 4 iron 163 to the left of the green, flubbed a chip and had to hit another. My second stopped 10 feet past the hole and I two putted. Triple.

I ended the round hitting 3 fairways, no greens, and had 18 putts. My final score was 52. As bad as I was hitting the ball, I'm actually surprised it was that good. The wedge was my best performer today, leaving me 10 feet or less 5 times. I didn't always convert, but the opportunity was there. There's no denying it's hot on chip shots and you have to be gentle with it. Think hitting a running chip with an 8 iron.

I did find that you can open the face a bit, at least sitting on top of high grass.



It wasn't the best of rounds, but I'm still pleased with how well I played considering how bad my swing was. Did I regret it? No, it was pretty fun.

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Great idea @sirchunksalot!  I loved the challenges in CCC3 too!  Unfortunately my golf time has gotten cut in about 1/4 these past few weeks so I’ve had to be a lot more targeted on my testing for the D7s. Hoping to get 36 or 54 on this weekend. It will be the first full rounds of the past month and I can’t wait!  

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Great idea [mention=80128]sirchunksalot[/mention]!  I loved the challenges in CCC3 too!  Unfortunately my golf time has gotten cut in about 1/4 these past few weeks so I’ve had to be a lot more targeted on my testing for the D7s. Hoping to get 36 or 54 on this weekend. It will be the first full rounds of the past month and I can’t wait!  
I hope you enjoy your rounds this weekend! You all have been doing a great job over in the D7 thread and I am looking forward to hearing how it goes for you.

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44 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

I hope you enjoy your rounds this weekend! You all have been doing a great job over in the D7 thread and I am looking forward to hearing how it goes for you.

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Really appreciate it the kind words. I’m hoping to get some great data this weekend. You guys set a pretty high standard in this thread so I’m hoping I can do you justice in the D7 review. Keep up the great work! 

35 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

 @JohnSmallssorry, I forgot to ask, how's the Arccos and F9 driver working for you? I know you said you'll do a review for the driver later, but how are your initial impressions?

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Just wrote a marathon but don’t want to threadjack, so I’ll post it in the CCC3 thread and tag you

 

 

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4 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

One of the things I love about this forum is how the moderators challenge us, as testers, to do things in these reviews to really put the products to the test. I was thinking back over the Cobra Connect Challenge thread and decided to do a four club challenge today. I only played nine holes since it's nearly 100 degrees and really humid. This is something I would never, ever do in a million years of I was just regularly playing, so thanks to both the moderators and CC Challenge competitors for the inspiration.

The clubs:20190913_134040-01.jpeg

I went with the 4, 7, AW, and putter for this round. I figured the 4 iron would be good off the tee, the 7 iron would take care of the mid range shots and the par threes, and the AW for everything else. I had to really think about the par threes, one is playing 130 and the other was playing 160. I figured I would have to ease up on the first one and knew I would have a chip on the second. Also, knowing the roll out with the wedges, I thought the most lofted of the Atomics was probably my best bet.

It all started out so good, I hit the fairway on the first hole. I then bladed the wedge on the second shot and ended up pin high to the right. I then hit a great chip shot to 3 feet and made the putt for par. 20190913_134702-01.jpeg

The second hole I hit the 7 iron 122 and right, chipped up to 6 feet, where I promptly two putted. Then the wheels feel off.

Blocked my drive on the third, which became a theme for the round, hit a tree and was left with a shot off a hard lie that I put into another tree. Hit a knockdown to get back into the fairway, then hit a wedge shot 45 feet past the hole. Needless to say that led to one of two three putts for the day. Screenshot_20190913-180337.jpeg

Hole four was more of the same. Block, knockdown, wedge, wedge, three putt. So much for the good start, I'm now 7 over through 4.

I bogeyed the fifth hole and made par on the sixth after hitting another AW to 4 feet.

The next two holes are the par fives, and were really what I was worried about before the round. I ended up with a double on the seventh after hitting a tree with both my drive and a wedge after pulling a 7 iron. I finished that hole with a double.

On the eighth, I bladed the 4 iron that travelled a whopping 51 yards, blocked the second into a tree (again), hit another 4 iron that went between two trees (miracle). I then hit a 7 iron that landed in the creek and got lucky that the water was down and still had a shot from the creek bed. Hit a hot chip over the green. That left me with a downhill chip that I managed to get to 8 feet and a two putt. Triple.

My drive on the final hole again went right, into a pond. I then hit a good 4 iron 163 to the left of the green, flubbed a chip and had to hit another. My second stopped 10 feet past the hole and I two putted. Triple.

I ended the round hitting 3 fairways, no greens, and had 18 putts. My final score was 52. As bad as I was hitting the ball, I'm actually surprised it was that good. The wedge was my best performer today, leaving me 10 feet or less 5 times. I didn't always convert, but the opportunity was there. There's no denying it's hot on chip shots and you have to be gentle with it. Think hitting a running chip with an 8 iron.

I did find that you can open the face a bit, at least sitting on top of high grass.
 

 


It wasn't the best of rounds, but I'm still pleased with how well I played considering how bad my swing was. Did I regret it? No, it was pretty fun.

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Minimalist golf!!! see, who needs full sets any longer? with the advancements in technology, you only need 4 clubs now!!  the pros have been saying for years, you cant make a course too long and for us amateurs, do we really need 14 clubs and wedge sets with 4 different wedges?  great post. keep it going

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On 9/12/2019 at 7:28 AM, Tsecor said:

IMO, i think with the stronger lofted clubs, you will find it tough to get a ball to check up no matter what brand you use. I agree with everything you said, but i think if you try the prov1x, you might get some good results.  This ball is low spinning off the driver but one of the highest spinning balls with a 7 iron thru wedge.  I used it this summer and its an amazing all around ball.

Ive got a couple Vice Pro+, which is similar to the Pro V1x.  Im going to try those today and see how they do.

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13 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

One of the things I love about this forum is how the moderators challenge us, as testers, to do things in these reviews to really put the products to the test. I was thinking back over the Cobra Connect Challenge thread and decided to do a four club challenge today. I only played nine holes since it's nearly 100 degrees and really humid. This is something I would never, ever do in a million years of I was just regularly playing, so thanks to both the moderators and CC Challenge competitors for the inspiration.

The clubs:20190913_134040-01.jpeg

I went with the 4, 7, AW, and putter for this round. I figured the 4 iron would be good off the tee, the 7 iron would take care of the mid range shots and the par threes, and the AW for everything else. I had to really think about the par threes, one is playing 130 and the other was playing 160. I figured I would have to ease up on the first one and knew I would have a chip on the second. Also, knowing the roll out with the wedges, I thought the most lofted of the Atomics was probably my best bet.

It all started out so good, I hit the fairway on the first hole. I then bladed the wedge on the second shot and ended up pin high to the right. I then hit a great chip shot to 3 feet and made the putt for par. 20190913_134702-01.jpeg

The second hole I hit the 7 iron 122 and right, chipped up to 6 feet, where I promptly two putted. Then the wheels feel off.

Blocked my drive on the third, which became a theme for the round, hit a tree and was left with a shot off a hard lie that I put into another tree. Hit a knockdown to get back into the fairway, then hit a wedge shot 45 feet past the hole. Needless to say that led to one of two three putts for the day. Screenshot_20190913-180337.jpeg

Hole four was more of the same. Block, knockdown, wedge, wedge, three putt. So much for the good start, I'm now 7 over through 4.

I bogeyed the fifth hole and made par on the sixth after hitting another AW to 4 feet.

The next two holes are the par fives, and were really what I was worried about before the round. I ended up with a double on the seventh after hitting a tree with both my drive and a wedge after pulling a 7 iron. I finished that hole with a double.

On the eighth, I bladed the 4 iron that travelled a whopping 51 yards, blocked the second into a tree (again), hit another 4 iron that went between two trees (miracle). I then hit a 7 iron that landed in the creek and got lucky that the water was down and still had a shot from the creek bed. Hit a hot chip over the green. That left me with a downhill chip that I managed to get to 8 feet and a two putt. Triple.

My drive on the final hole again went right, into a pond. I then hit a good 4 iron 163 to the left of the green, flubbed a chip and had to hit another. My second stopped 10 feet past the hole and I two putted. Triple.

I ended the round hitting 3 fairways, no greens, and had 18 putts. My final score was 52. As bad as I was hitting the ball, I'm actually surprised it was that good. The wedge was my best performer today, leaving me 10 feet or less 5 times. I didn't always convert, but the opportunity was there. There's no denying it's hot on chip shots and you have to be gentle with it. Think hitting a running chip with an 8 iron.

I did find that you can open the face a bit, at least sitting on top of high grass.
 

 


It wasn't the best of rounds, but I'm still pleased with how well I played considering how bad my swing was. Did I regret it? No, it was pretty fun.

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I only play with a 5, 7 and 9 and honestly dont miss the rest of the iron set.  The 5-iron hits it 180, 7-iron hits it 160 and the 9-iron hits it 130.  The only real problem I have with this setup is shots that are between 120 and 90 yards because the only wedge I carry is a 54 degree.  Im thinking about trying opening up the face on the 9-iron and aiming a little left on those shots.

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1 hour ago, ZenGolfer said:

Ive got a couple Vice Pro+, which is similar to the Pro V1x.  Im going to try those today and see how they do.

Just keep in mind the vice pros are typically built on old “technology”. Some say the balls are cheap because the tech is 4-5 yrs old.  Probably not enough for us to really notice but i was shocked at how good the prov1x was. Probably the ball i noticed the most.  Im not a high spin wedge player where i draw the ball back like uts on a fishing line but these do the trick for me. They check up nicely in all situations

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1 hour ago, ZenGolfer said:

I only play with a 5, 7 and 9 and honestly dont miss the rest of the iron set.  The 5-iron hits it 180, 7-iron hits it 160 and the 9-iron hits it 130.  The only real problem I have with this setup is shots that are between 120 and 90 yards because the only wedge I carry is a 54 degree.  Im thinking about trying opening up the face on the 9-iron and aiming a little left on those shots.

Change that wedge out to a 50.  Or even a 46 to close the gap.  U can still use a 50 out of the bunker if needed

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Just keep in mind the vice pros are typically built on old “technology”. Some say the balls are cheap because the tech is 4-5 yrs old.  Probably not enough for us to really notice but i was shocked at how good the prov1x was. Probably the ball i noticed the most.  Im not a high spin wedge player where i draw the ball back like uts on a fishing line but these do the trick for me. They check up nicely in all situations
I'm probably not good enough to notice the difference anyways. Lol. IMO, the balls are cheaper because Vice has so much less overhead than Titleist does. Just think how much Titleist spends on marketing and tour presence.

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Change that wedge out to a 50.  Or even a 46 to close the gap.  U can still use a 50 out of the bunker if needed
I may try the AW from the Atomic set today and see how that works. My only concern with that would be having the ability to hit little greenside shots. With the 54, I can open or close the face to adjust the loft. I'm not sure that I could open the face enough with the AW to hit a flop. It's worth a shot though and it's a question of which has more utility: a reliable 100 yard shot or a greenside flop/chunk shot.

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I was thinking recently about how I feel about these irons overall. I do like them for the most part. They're forgiving, easy to hit and long.
I dont love them though. They lack control and a accuracy. I feel like I can get the ball out there but never know quite where its going to go. If I were hitting to an island green, I wouldn't feel confident at all.
Putting the old DCI 981s in the bag for a couple rounds really opened my eyes to think and how much I dislike left jacking.
I'm now thinking about a half set of Cobra CB/MBs. I love my DCIs but the grooves aren't legal and the Cobras have similar specs.
I'm not giving up on the TAs quite yet but if they were a woman, I'd probably be thinking of a nice way to tell her, "I'm just not that into you."

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On 9/12/2019 at 7:28 AM, Tsecor said:

IMO, i think with the stronger lofted clubs, you will find it tough to get a ball to check up no matter what brand you use. I agree with everything you said, but i think if you try the prov1x, you might get some good results.  This ball is low spinning off the driver but one of the highest spinning balls with a 7 iron thru wedge.  I used it this summer and its an amazing all around ball.

This!!  I using  the VX with the G700’s a low spin club according to some reviews.   But i gentslly can stop the 7 within 2 or 3 feet from the pitch mark and habe spun the 9 and wedge back. 

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I only play with a 5, 7 and 9 and honestly dont miss the rest of the iron set.  The 5-iron hits it 180, 7-iron hits it 160 and the 9-iron hits it 130.  The only real problem I have with this setup is shots that are between 120 and 90 yards because the only wedge I carry is a 54 degree.  Im thinking about trying opening up the face on the 9-iron and aiming a little left on those shots.
You're definitely right about having to aim left, the shots I videoed were all aimed at the flag and went right with the open face. I thought about trying a flop, but I was honestly scared to, at least on the practice green. I might try it one day on the range where I don't have to worry about skulling into the next county.

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12 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

You're definitely right about having to aim left, the shots I videoed were all aimed at the flag and went right with the open face. I thought about trying a flop, but I was honestly scared to, at least on the practice green. I might try it one day on the range where I don't have to worry about skulling into the next county.

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When you hit with an open face, you have to aim the face where you want the ball to go, aim your body to the left and make sure that you swing along your foot line instead of aiming to the target.  Its something that takes practice but eventually you will learn to trust it.

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Ok, so I played 9 holes yesterday with a mixture of Vice Pros and Pro+ and it made a big difference.  I found that even on shots where I would either hit it a little thin or would just hit it a bit too hard, the spin would save me.

I found that even on short shots around the green, the ball would take 1 hop and stop dead.  This was true especially with the Pro+.  Those things spin like crazy.

It was so much more confidence inspiring to be able to just hit to a certain yardage and have the ball stop within a few feet of the pitch mark.

IMO, with these newer, hotter faced, stronger lofted irons, you almost need to use a urethane covered ball just to get the darned thing to stop.  Otherwise, you have to aim for the front of the green and hope that the ball stops but a lot of holes either dont give you that option (bunkers, water or elevated greens that prevent you from playing a running shot) or it punished you by making it almost impossible to get the ball to stop near the flag because you then have to consider slope and speed of the green.

Just playing these spinnier balls probably saved me 8 strokes off what my score normally is on this course.

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I played in a scramble yesterday at a very nice country club in Bedford NY.  Greens were US OPEN fast and the fairways were perfect. The 2nd cut of rough was ankle deep as well. Even the first cut of rough was enough to see your ball set down a bit.

So, i brought two sets of clubs with me and experimented a bit.  As ive posted over and over again, the Atomics are hot and fly a country mile. BUT hitting these out of the rough is very very difficult. I had mixed results yesterday. Was great off the tee with these irons and off the middle of the fairway, but once you are in any "junk" its hard FOR ME (Maybe not for others), to get any serious results with the fat soles. My CB's were much more effective cutting through the rough.   I will say, on the long par 3's, I was able to hit the 5I 210 yards and stop the ball within 10 feet. These irons fly high and it helps stop the ball. while my partners were hitting 3 woods into the greens, I was puling a 5I and they were amazed.

I have confirmed over and over again, V2 should be a blended set to appeal to a wider range of players.  I have hit close to 1500 balls and played 10 rounds with these, so my earlier conclusions still remain.  A better ball striker may have a different take on this, but for me, i struggle out of any type of rough.  The vokey wedge I use saved me a lot of strokes over the Atomic wedges from greenside rough and any rough up to ~ 80 yards out.   From the fairway, I'm hitting the Atomic wedges 135 -145 and stopping them no problem.

These long irons can compete with the TM 790's or the Titleist U series. I think there is an opportunity to jump into this niche market and make an impact going up against the "big boys"

 

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@Tsecor If you have issues hitting them out of the rough due to the sole design, I think that's a concern about the clubs themselves. The golfers these clubs are aimed at are probably going to find themselves in the junk far more often than someone who plays AP2s. Sounds like the next version of these (if there is one) could use some sole redesign to help out on that front. 

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24 minutes ago, russtopherb said:

@Tsecor If you have issues hitting them out of the rough due to the sole design, I think that's a concern about the clubs themselves. The golfers these clubs are aimed at are probably going to find themselves in the junk far more often than someone who plays AP2s. Sounds like the next version of these (if there is one) could use some sole redesign to help out on that front. 

I am not a designer, so I am not sure about that, but i have documented my concerns about the size of the soles in certain situations. From the fairway, not one issue. FOR ME, from the rough, i cannot get it through the thick stuff with any efficiency.  I am just a guy who has played for years and have experience as to what works for me only.....and i need a club that can cut through the rough with a thin sole.  That was my only concern with these. The rest is a no brainer for anyone looking for a hot club that bombs down the fairway or is great off the tee in place of a hybrid. The price is so great on these, i am just nitpicking at an area of my game that surely needs to be improved. I put it on me as a guy who needs improvement as a ball striker, not the club.  I'm just saying these would work better for me if they were a blended set.

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