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On 8/16/2019 at 8:59 AM, perseveringgolfer said:

I liked the Z star XV but found it too firm and clicky on putts, maybe the ordinary Z star might compare well with chromesoft.

 

... I have always loved the Z Star. The XV should be a better ball for me but like you, I found them too hard and clicky. It checks all your boxes. Thankfully I tried the 2019 XV and it is much softer feeling than previous versions. So I took advantage of the Golfdiscount Srixon XV sale of 6 balls for $9.99 so $19.98 a dozen. (Thanks to GS-CG2 for the heads up) Free shipping in the US for orders over $99 so I picked up 10 dozen for $199. Not sure what the shipping is to you but it might be worth a look:


https://www.golfdiscount.com/srixon-z-star-xv-6-performance-pack-golf-balls-6-balls

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Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 14.5* ... Atmos TS Blue 7s
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Tensei Pro Orange 80 hy s-flex
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
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Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33.5"
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... I'll bet when you go purse shopping it is a multi day affair. Too shiny, too much leather, not enough patent leather, too soft, too hard, too much color, not enough color, too many beads, not enou

The Chrome Soft X sounds and feels god awful

Soft = Slow, and I cannot bring myself to hit another Callaway ball until they fix their quality control issues.  And this is a real shame, as I used to really like the Callaway iX and the Spalding ur

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I have played the Chrome soft or X for the previous 2 seasons prior to the ball test, and I don’t have any issues using this ball. I do see a lot of bias when it comes to Callaway though. Some folks don’t like the company, and will always give a bad review of anything from Cally. I would suggest buying 1 sleeve of the Chrome soft and Chrome soft x and try it for yourself. Then you decide if it is a ball you like. Based on the ball test I switched to the Bridgestone BXS. While this is a very good ball, I am having a very hard time controlling it from the tee. It is the same issue with the titleist balls, they have to much spin off of the driver. I am in the process of switching back to the yellow and black Truvis ball that seems to work for me. I say try any ball you want and find the one that works best for you. 

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I think you should try the Zstar and, if you haven´t tried the new XV...Just do it. 

14 hours ago, chisag said:

Thankfully I tried the 2019 XV and it is much softer feeling than previous versions.

I´m absolutely with you.

 

 

But the only way to get your Ball... buy various sleeves (XV, Zstar, Prov1/x, TP5/x, Bridgstones...)

 

About feel: I thought, i will never use a firm balll.. After the MGS Test, i give them a long test, tried  a lot of balls. And say you what: i will never go back to a softer ball. 

For me, i have better accuracy from irons to the putter... the feel is unusual, but after a few rounds i love it. 

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1 hour ago, Monaco said:

I think you should try the Zstar and, if you haven´t tried the new XV...Just do it. 

But the only way to get your Ball... buy various sleeves (XV, Zstar, Prov1/x, TP5/x, Bridgstones...)

 

 

As per the OP I have, hence why I want to change.

Tried all the ones above apart from ordinary Z star as they are hard to get here so have to buy a dozen online and that could be a waste of money as the dozen Z star XV's have proved to be.

Driver     Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs)  
4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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5 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said:

As per the OP I have, hence why I want to change.

Tried all the ones above apart from ordinary Z star as they are hard to get here so have to buy a dozen online and that could be a waste of money as the dozen Z star XV's have proved to be.

 

... Well if you think the 2019 Srixon XV is too hard and clicky I am afraid a soft ball is your only option. I think the Z Star is a little softer than the XV but not by a wide margin so you are probably better off with one of the super soft options. 

Driver:   Cobra Speedzone Xtreme 9* ... Tensei Orange 60s
Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 14.5* ... Atmos TS Blue 7s
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Tensei Pro Orange 80 hy s-flex
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
                 SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Steelfiber 110 s-flex 4 iron shaft
Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33.5"
Ball:  TaylorMade TP5

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15 hours ago, Kor.A.Door said:

I have played the Chrome soft or X for the previous 2 seasons prior to the ball test, and I don’t have any issues using this ball. I do see a lot of bias when it comes to Callaway though. Some folks don’t like the company, and will always give a bad review of anything from Cally. I would suggest buying 1 sleeve of the Chrome soft and Chrome soft x and try it for yourself. Then you decide if it is a ball you like. Based on the ball test I switched to the Bridgestone BXS. While this is a very good ball, I am having a very hard time controlling it from the tee. It is the same issue with the titleist balls, they have to much spin off of the driver. I am in the process of switching back to the yellow and black Truvis ball that seems to work for me. I say try any ball you want and find the one that works best for you. 

The pro bias for Callaway is a lot stronger than the anti bias. Most of those against the brand are that way based on experience with their gear or the aesthetics (or lack of depending on how you look at things). Others don’t like the brand because of their over the top marketing.

Every version of the CS and CSX have underperformed for me. The cf16 apex line were inconsistent in distances. 

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Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

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1 hour ago, chisag said:

 

... Well if you think the 2019 Srixon XV is too hard and clicky I am afraid a *soft* ball is your only option. I think the Z Star is a little softer than the XV but not by a wide margin so you are probably better off with one of the super soft options

*softer*

no, tried them and they are like marshmallows, the XV isn't hard, it's just clicky. I think the Z star should/could tick the boxes

Driver     Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs)  
4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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16 minutes ago, perseveringgolfer said:

no, tried them and they are like marshmallows, the XV isn't hard, it's just clicky. I think the Z star should/could tick the boxes

For the vast majority of golfers clicky=hard

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Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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8 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

For the vast majority of golfers clicky=hard

ok its clicky and 'feels' hard. The prov1 and Prov1x dont feel hard or clicky, but they look old and off white very quickly into the round.

Driver     Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs)  
4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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1 minute ago, perseveringgolfer said:

ok its clicky and 'feels' hard. The prov1 and Prov1x dont feel hard or clicky, but they look old and off white very quickly into the round.

 

... I'll bet when you go purse shopping it is a multi day affair. Too shiny, too much leather, not enough patent leather, too soft, too hard, too much color, not enough color, too many beads, not enough beads ... Hopefully you find a purse big enough to hold all the balls you don't like. 😉

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Driver:   Cobra Speedzone Xtreme 9* ... Tensei Orange 60s
Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 14.5* ... Atmos TS Blue 7s
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Tensei Pro Orange 80 hy s-flex
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
                 SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Steelfiber 110 s-flex 4 iron shaft
Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33.5"
Ball:  TaylorMade TP5

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1 hour ago, perseveringgolfer said:

ok its clicky and 'feels' hard. The prov1 and Prov1x dont feel hard or clicky, but they look old and off white very quickly into the round.

The ProV feels like a marshmallow, and the V1x sounds like a rock, and both of them impart way too much spin.  It’s all in the perception of who is using it. 

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1 hour ago, chisag said:

 

... I'll bet when you go purse shopping it is a multi day affair. Too shiny, too much leather, not enough patent leather, too soft, too hard, too much color, not enough color, too many beads, not enough beads ... Hopefully you find a purse big enough to hold all the balls you don't like. 😉

if I can't you could always give me one of yours, maybe your old makeup purse

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Driver     Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs)  
4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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45 minutes ago, Kor.A.Door said:

The ProV feels like a marshmallow, and the V1x sounds like a rock, and both of them impart way too much spin.  It’s all in the perception of who is using it. 

agreed- never heard anyone say a Prov is like a marshmallow. What ball do you play?

Driver     Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs)  
4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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no, tried them and they are like marshmallows, the XV isn't hard, it's just clicky. I think the Z star should/could tick the boxes


Z Star is like a cream puff compared to the XV.



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5 minutes ago, perseveringgolfer said:

if I can't you could always give me one of yours, maybe your old makeup purse

... LOL, I have a make up case, big difference. 

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Driver:   Cobra Speedzone Xtreme 9* ... Tensei Orange 60s
Fw wood: Cobra Speedzone 14.5* ... Atmos TS Blue 7s
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Tensei Pro Orange 80 hy s-flex
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
                 SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Steelfiber 110 s-flex 4 iron shaft
Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33.5"
Ball:  TaylorMade TP5

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On 8/17/2019 at 12:23 PM, HardcoreLooper said:

Soft = Slow, and I cannot bring myself to hit another Callaway ball until they fix their quality control issues.  And this is a real shame, as I used to really like the Callaway iX and the Spalding urethane balls that came before Callaway bought Spalding's golf division (like the old Strata).

I agree, I played the Chromesoft X all of last year and liked it.  I thought the feel was good as well as spin.  That being said, once the ball report came out AND the quality control issues (again thanks Mygolfspy for turning the industry upside down), I will not play Chromesoft anymore.  I switched over to the Bridgestone Tour BX and have found the ball for me!  It has a firmer feel but goes a mile!

   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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no, tried them and they are like marshmallows, the XV isn't hard, it's just clicky. I think the Z star should/could tick the boxes


I would think the Z Star should tick all the boxes as well and as for price - Z Star's can definitely be had for less money than Pro V's. As Chisag already mentioned you can get really good deals on the Srixon's. I just got 5 dozen for $100 - hard to beat $20 per dozen. Both the Z Star and XV are really great balls with the "feel" being one of the major differences. I prefer the XV and honestly find it ideal for my game but if I wanted softer - the Z Star would be my pick.


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Just bought a dozen 6th generation Z stars (lots of earlier ones on ebay). You can get 3 dozen for 2 dozen price just now so works out at $31 a dozen.

Looks like my Prov1's will be used for bounce games and shag bag!

Driver     Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs)  
4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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On 8/18/2019 at 1:06 PM, chisag said:

 

... I have always loved the Z Star. The XV should be a better ball for me but like you, I found them too hard and clicky. It checks all your boxes. Thankfully I tried the 2019 XV and it is much softer feeling than previous versions. So I took advantage of the Golfdiscount Srixon XV sale of 6 balls for $9.99 so $19.98 a dozen. (Thanks to GS-CG2 for the heads up) Free shipping in the US for orders over $99 so I picked up 10 dozen for $199. Not sure what the shipping is to you but it might be worth a look:


https://www.golfdiscount.com/srixon-z-star-xv-6-performance-pack-golf-balls-6-balls

Shout you for finding this deal. Just got 12 Srixon Zstar balls and 6 Zstar xv to try. I am wondering which ones will perform better for me as I have an avg ss of about 120mph for the driver. I really want to like the zstar due to greenside spin is greater than xv but I dont want to give up 10 yards in doing so. Anyways, extremely excited to give these balls a try.

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Driver: :taylormade-small:Taylormade M2 8.5 w/ Xstiff Aldila RIP Beta shaft

2 Iron: :taylormade-small:Talormade P790 UDI 17 degree w/ Hazardus Xstiff driver shaft

4-PW: :taylormade-small:Taylormade PSI iron w/ KBS C-taper stiff iron shafts

52 degree: :cleveland-small:Cleveland RTX 3

56 degree: :callaway-small:Callaway Mac Daddy 4

60 degree-::taylormade-small:Taylormade milled grind

Putter: :cameron-small:Scotty Cameron Dual Balance X5

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Had to use the XV today (as the Z stars havent arrived yet), greens are soft and I expected spin back, ball stopped and came back a few inches on the green, great most of the time but I was attacking pins today and it was fun, but I would of liked some 'cash back' spin to get nearer. You cant really go wrong with either ball I think.

Driver     Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs)  
4 Wood   Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+  :callaway-small: Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex

Hybrid     Titleist 910H 19*    :titelist-small:   Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S'

Irons         Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW   :mizuno-small:  N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S'

Wedges    Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54*  :callaway-small:   KBS Tour in 'R'

Putter        'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5"

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