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2 hours ago, Rickp said:


To your question on ball movement. First in the Testing I had to overcome the 4’ difference in Lie Angle which provided a challenge in just hitting the ball. It drive me nuts that a big mistake was made but the opposite is true. Moving Lie Angle was correct.
Overcoming that problem ball fight is getting better all the time with decent ball strikes in club face is improving.
I was never a big mover of the ball little draw occasionally and slight fade predominant flight.
The G410 for me are dead a$$ straight, 5 thru 7 slight fade and 8 thru PW baby draw.
Hitting low ball stingers easy to do, big fades-draws on demand not easy for me to do with these clubs. They like to go straight.

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I was reading about the lie angle difference - 4* is intense! I'm glad you are finding it beneficial. I would imagine getting used to the position of your hands at address and impact was a challenge. 

I appreciate the feedback in terms of the workability of the G410. I know these are primarily designed to go straight but I'm glad to hear they are easily knocked down. The right/left doesn't matter nearly as much as that to me. I enjoy working the ball - I am trying to hit a particular shot all the time but having a game improvement club that can be easily knocked down is great. How do they compare to the G400? What is better? Anything worse?

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Adams 4555 19* Matrix Ozik Altus 80 S/X 42"

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They're here!  So lets look at this timeline for a second, I was fit on Sunday afternoon and the clubs were at my door tonight when I got home from my football game.  They were built, packaged and shi

Light through yonder window breaks.... 

Looking forward to doing my fitting for these. I've only had one iron fitting and it was for a set of single length irons in February in Rhode Island the day after an 18 inch snowstorm. It w

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I was reading about the lie angle difference - 4* is intense! I'm glad you are finding it beneficial. I would imagine getting used to the position of your hands at address and impact was a challenge. 
I appreciate the feedback in terms of the workability of the G410. I know these are primarily designed to go straight but I'm glad to hear they are easily knocked down. The right/left doesn't matter nearly as much as that to me. I enjoy working the ball - I am trying to hit a particular shot all the time but having a game improvement club that can be easily knocked down is great. How do they compare to the G400? What is better? Anything worse?

Can’t say enough about Fitting and trust results.
I can’t really compare clubs due to the 4’ change. My old clubs are now changed to match the G410 so that is next on my agenda. Couldn’t do anything today with 25 mph wind with 35 mph gusts.



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Driver; Ping G410 Plus

5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead

Irons; Ping G410 5-SW & Mizno 919 Hot Metal 5-SW

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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While the discussion is on ball flight, here's an interesting tidbit that came up during my lest lesson and discussion with my coach.

I mentioned initial concerns about ball flight getting 'too high' with the GI design of these irons since I felt like I hit the ball pretty high already. We came back to that idea in the last lesson. I said I had seen a few really high ball flight shots, and then just casually remarked, 'but then again I don't know what a tour player would consider too high..'. That drew a chuckle from my coach.

My lesson this week will be outdoors, so he will get a look at the actual ball flight and we will see if we start working on bringing it down a bit.

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Fariway:   :titelist-small: 917 F2, 3-Wood Fujikura Blue 

Hybrid:   :ping-small: G410 18*

Irons:  :titelist-small: T300 4-5, T200 6-PW Nippon 880 Pro R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small:  CBX2 50*, 54*, 58*, TT Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex

Putter:  :odyssey-small:  EXO Rossie 34.5" (Tester) 

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54 minutes ago, GregB135 said:

While the discussion is on ball flight, here's an interesting tidbit that came up during my lest lesson and discussion with my coach.

I mentioned initial concerns about ball flight getting 'too high' with the GI design of these irons since I felt like I hit the ball pretty high already. We came back to that idea in the last lesson. I said I had seen a few really high ball flight shots, and then just casually remarked, 'but then again I don't know what a tour player would consider too high..'. That drew a chuckle from my coach.

My lesson this week will be outdoors, so he will get a look at the actual ball flight and we will see if we start working on bringing it down a bit.

I'm glad you said that about what tour players would consider too high.  I have a buddy that played on the old Nationwide tour and he told me that you can never hit the ball too high, as long as distance is not compromised.  

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3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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14 hours ago, golfertrb said:

Well, I've had a lot of iterations of iPhone and I've never produced anything close so perhaps you are being a bit modest 😂🤣

Great answer to all my questions and I look forward to seeing your video reviews. Couple follow-up questions: what is your standard shot? (Shape/flight) Is there a type of shot you tend to need to be able to hit that deviates from your typical shot? If so, what is it and are you finding it difficult? (In other words, if your standard shot is a high draw, do you find yourself needing to flight the ball down due to course conditions?)

That is quite impressive about the toe strike - most people I play with tend to miss on the toe due to being over-the-top from one degree or another. I really like the looks of these and I have several players I could recommend them too. Being able to flight the ball down is an absolute must here in Oklahoma so that is certainly something to consider. Thanks!

I tend to be a pretty solid iron player.  When I am playing my best I will hit a draw as much as possible.  I like to see a mid ball flight as well.  That being said, I DO have a steep swing and I know that contributes to the height I get on my iron shots.  My course, you need to hit everything, draws, fades and straight shots.  It is a pretty tight tree lined course.  There are a few holes though that are notorious at hitting dead into the wind, these are the holes I cannot get the ball to flight down on.  

Would I recommend these clubs to ANYONE that mishits their irons...ABSOLUTELY!  Off center hits are amazing with these things.  They are not too bulky yet they get the job done and allow players to hit a straight shot.  

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3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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4 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said:

I tend to be a pretty solid iron player.  When I am playing my best I will hit a draw as much as possible.  I like to see a mid ball flight as well.

As a player capable and accustomed to shaping shots, how would you assess the work-ability of the G410s? What I've seen so far is the ball does curve. When I hit a definite hook or slice, that's what the ball does. When I hit what felt like a slight draw or fade that's when the ball seems to want to resist and stay straighter.

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Fariway:   :titelist-small: 917 F2, 3-Wood Fujikura Blue 

Hybrid:   :ping-small: G410 18*

Irons:  :titelist-small: T300 4-5, T200 6-PW Nippon 880 Pro R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small:  CBX2 50*, 54*, 58*, TT Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex

Putter:  :odyssey-small:  EXO Rossie 34.5" (Tester) 

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Brutal morning but good for Testing.
Cold, 20 mph wind gusting to 25+. Main objective was how the G410 reacted and they didn’t disappoint. Into the wind able to keep ball low, with the wind clubs got ball up and ride the wind.
The more I play these clubs the better I like them.


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5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead

Irons; Ping G410 5-SW & Mizno 919 Hot Metal 5-SW

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1 hour ago, GregB135 said:

As a player capable and accustomed to shaping shots, how would you assess the work-ability of the G410s? What I've seen so far is the ball does curve. When I hit a definite hook or slice, that's what the ball does. When I hit what felt like a slight draw or fade that's when the ball seems to want to resist and stay straighter.

I found them to be harder to work then what I am used to.  Obviously a bad swing is a bad swing and the ball will fly all over the place, regardless of the club.  I found the club wants to fight me a bit when trying to shape shots.  It's not that I couldn't shape them, I just had to really try.   

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3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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Ok gang, here we go.  I am trying something a bit different.  I took my trusty cell phone with me and made videos of each section for my review.  I know some people don't want to read paragraph after paragraph.  Now, I am no YouTube star so forgive me.  I did not retake any of the videos and no animals were harmed in the making of these videos.  Hope you like them...if not, I hope you shank your next drive into the woods.  haha

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SOUND AND FEEL:

 

 

PERFORMANCE:  

 

 

 

ON COURSE PERFORMANCE:  (I call you all schmucks in this, sorry, this is just used as a general term for all of us)

 

 

Miscellaneous:  

 

 

PLAY THEM OR TRADE THEM:  

 

 

SUMMARY: 

 

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3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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18 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

Thank you!  I had a lot of fun doing this and was as shocked as anyone.  I wanted to NOT like these.  I too have the Flash Sub Zero and I hated the sound and feel of that too.  I thought the Titleist TS2 felt WAAAAY better, but when I looked at the numbers, there was no comparison.  Like I mentioned, when I am hitting these next to my Mizuno's, there is no comparison in the feel and sound department, the Mizuno's are unbeatable.  That being said, I will not, on a normal basis, hit these clubs side by side.  If they perform, why not play them no matter what my handicap says.  I have seen the bags of a lot of players, and like many of us do, we size up their clubs.  Meaning, when I see a bag full of blades, I tend to think that player has game.  I have been wrong so many times with this.  I have seen guys that are 20+ handicap with the most beautiful set of Titleist blades and they go out there and hit the ball all over the place.  They will typically say, "they just feel so good!"  Maybe so, but they don't perform for you.  I don't hit the ball in the center all the time so when I do mishit the ball I am not punished with the PING's.  This SCHMUCK likes that!!!!  haha  I can't wait to hit them when it's warmer. 

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3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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17 hours ago, ballplayer002003 said:

Ok gang, here we go.  I am trying something a bit different.  I took my trusty cell phone with me and made videos of each section for my review.  I know some people don't want to read paragraph after paragraph.  Now, I am no YouTube star so forgive me.  I did not retake any of the videos and no animals were harmed in the making of these videos.  Hope you like them...if not, I hope you shank your next drive into the woods.  haha

Great job with those videos. I really enjoyed hearing the views from a player at the lower end of the handicap range Ping says these are targeted for, (5 to 15+). As I've trended down a bit this season, I'm now just to the low side of the middle, and I'm also thinking these are probably worth keeping in the bag.

I totally agree with your opinion on the look of the wedges (W/U). A little too bulky to look at over the ball, but when the ball lands at the target yardage I get over it pretty quickly. Same with working the ball. Like we mentioned earlier in the thread, the design of the club makes the ball flight look like it is fighting against the intended curve so to get it to move it feels like you have to overdo it a little. And, if you see a really bad shot, with these, it's the result of a really bad swing.

Cheers, and again, nicely done! I'll try to catch up to you guys and get my review posted this week, maybe next.

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Fariway:   :titelist-small: 917 F2, 3-Wood Fujikura Blue 

Hybrid:   :ping-small: G410 18*

Irons:  :titelist-small: T300 4-5, T200 6-PW Nippon 880 Pro R

Wedges:  :cleveland-small:  CBX2 50*, 54*, 58*, TT Dynamic Gold Wedge Flex

Putter:  :odyssey-small:  EXO Rossie 34.5" (Tester) 

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38 minutes ago, GregB135 said:

Great job with those videos. I really enjoyed hearing the views from a player at the lower end of the handicap range Ping says these are targeted for, (5 to 15+). As I've trended down a bit this season, I'm now just to the low side of the middle, and I'm also thinking these are probably worth keeping in the bag.

I totally agree with your opinion on the look of the wedges (W/U). A little too bulky to look at over the ball, but when the ball lands at the target yardage I get over it pretty quickly. Same with working the ball. Like we mentioned earlier in the thread, the design of the club makes the ball flight look like it is fighting against the intended curve so to get it to move it feels like you have to overdo it a little. And, if you see a really bad shot, with these, it's the result of a really bad swing.

Cheers, and again, nicely done! I'll try to catch up to you guys and get my review posted this week, maybe next.

It sounds like we like and dislike the same things about these clubs.  Are these clubs the best that I've ever hit...no.  Will this be the last set of irons I ever use...no.  There is room for improvement as far as shape and sound and feel for me (almost everything you look for in an iron, ha), but the face is smoking hot!  I was able to get pretty consistent yardage with no real outliers.  I would like to see these in a more players look and feel.  Maybe that's what the Blueprint Irons are (I don't know since I have never hit them).  I will give them a more thorough chance as the weather gets warmer and if I still like them I will keep them, if I find that in the summer weather they act differently, I will donate them back to the site so another member can give them a spin.    

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5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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Great review Ballplayer. Very honest.  These seem like they would be in my wheelhouse. I am an 8 hcp and now that I am almost 60, starting to lose a little distance. I have played a lot of Ping irons in the past, and currently play GI irons, so the clunkiness doesn't bother me. In fact, I prefer it now. 

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:callaway-small: Rogue 4H, 21*
:callaway-small: Steelhead XR 5-AW / :ping-small: G410 5-UW
:titelist-small: SM8 52* / 56*
:scotty-cameron-1: Newport 2 Select, 35"
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1 minute ago, gregh729 said:

Great review Ballplayer. Very honest.  These seem like they would be in my wheelhouse. I am an 8 hcp and now that I am almost 60, starting to lose a little distance. I have played a lot of Ping irons in the past, and currently play GI irons, so the clunkiness doesn't bother me. In fact, I prefer it now. 

Thank you, I will say I think you will like these.  The face is hot and ball speed was up on these from my Mizuno's.  I would definitely try them out, they may surprise you.   

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5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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One thing I want to ask all of the reviewers:

You mentioned the clicky sound. I looked back over the past year at posts about the G410s and several people mentioned the sound and some stopped playing them because of it. 

How do the other reviewers feel about the sound?

:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero, 9*
:callaway-small: GBB Epic 15* / 18*
:callaway-small: Rogue 4H, 21*
:callaway-small: Steelhead XR 5-AW / :ping-small: G410 5-UW
:titelist-small: SM8 52* / 56*
:scotty-cameron-1: Newport 2 Select, 35"
Many other putters in the bullpen waiting for call

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One thing I want to ask all of the reviewers:

You mentioned the clicky sound. I looked back over the past year at posts about the G410s and several people mentioned the sound and some stopped playing them because of it. 

How do the other reviewers feel about the sound?

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:callaway-small: GBB Epic 15* / 18*
:callaway-small: Rogue 4H, 21*
:callaway-small: Steelhead XR 5-AW / :ping-small: G410 5-UW
:titelist-small: SM8 52* / 56*
:scotty-cameron-1: Newport 2 Select, 35"
Many other putters in the bullpen waiting for call

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1 minute ago, gregh729 said:

One thing I want to ask all of the reviewers:

You mentioned the clicky sound. I looked back over the past year at posts about the G410s and several people mentioned the sound and some stopped playing them because of it. 

How do the other reviewers feel about the sound?

Again, the sound and feel for me was like hitting two rocks together.  Not a fan, BUT sound will not keep me from playing a club(s) that performs well.  

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5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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I had a set or irons a few years ago that sounded like those cap pistols we had as a kid. Played great with them, so it didn't bother me. I think it is just the from the extreme weighting and thinner faces on GI irons now. 

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:callaway-small: GBB Epic 15* / 18*
:callaway-small: Rogue 4H, 21*
:callaway-small: Steelhead XR 5-AW / :ping-small: G410 5-UW
:titelist-small: SM8 52* / 56*
:scotty-cameron-1: Newport 2 Select, 35"
Many other putters in the bullpen waiting for call

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Ok gang, here we go.  I am trying something a bit different.  I took my trusty cell phone with me and made videos of each section for my review.  I know some people don't want to read paragraph after paragraph.  Now, I am no YouTube star so forgive me.  I did not retake any of the videos and no animals were harmed in the making of these videos.  Hope you like them...if not, I hope you shank your next drive into the woods.  haha
LOOKS:
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SOUND AND FEEL:
 
 
PERFORMANCE:  
 
 
 
ON COURSE PERFORMANCE:  (I call you all schmucks in this, sorry, this is just used as a general term for all of us)
 
 
Miscellaneous:  
 
 
PLAY THEM OR TRADE THEM:  
 
 
SUMMARY: 
 


Videos came thru but for some reason they multiplied on my phone. Going to view later on laptop.
We seem to agree on quite a bit actually more than I would think based on our age, skill level & handicap.
Good job.


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Left Hand, 

Driver; Ping G410 Plus

5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead

Irons; Ping G410 5-SW & Mizno 919 Hot Metal 5-SW

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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