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On 10/16/2019 at 2:22 PM, Rickp said:


Couple more notes about Fitter, Scott Wood. He was gracious enough to fit me in knowing this was not going to be a sale. His explanation during the process was very thorough. The saying can’t teach old dogs new tricks is wrong, he taught me a lot.
Couple other stats; launch angle from 14’ to 18.5’ and spin from 3550 to 5700 so definite improvement.
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Rick, have you had an iron fitting before?  I had three different "lie board" evals done, by three different fitters, over an 6 month period and all confirmed the one I had in 1988 when I bought my PE2's. That's a big change from what you've been playing.

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Rick, have you had an iron fitting before?  I had three different "lie board" evals done, by three different fitters, over an 6 month period and all confirmed the one I had in 1988 when I bought my PE2's. That's a big change from what you've been playing.

Yes, I’ve had several Fittings from different people stretched out over maybe dozen + years. Most results were 2’ up one time 3’ up. This time he also came up with 2’ with the board. I could tell he didn’t like it that’s when he asked me if we could experiment which I jumped at. He marked a line on a ball and I hit with the 2’ up, line was near toe, again hit with 1’ flat mark moved towards center of face, 2’ flat mark was near center of face an felt great.
The G410 irons will be 2’ flat and the experiment begins.
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29 minutes ago, Rickp said:


Yes, I’ve had several Fittings from different people stretched out over maybe dozen + years. Most results were 2’ up one time 3’ up. This time he also came up with 2’ with the board. I could tell he didn’t like it that’s when he asked me if we could experiment which I jumped at. He marked a line on a ball and I hit with the 2’ up, line was near toe, again hit with 1’ flat mark moved towards center of face, 2’ flat mark was near center of face an felt great.
The G410 irons will be 2’ flat and the experiment begins.

Hmm, that is going to make your test case/review ever more interesting.  Your experience would have me wondering were it not for the detailed 3D graphic analysis afforded by the Foresight LM system - which validates what the lie board test results.  

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2 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

Hmm, that is going to make your test case/review ever more interesting.  Your experience would have me wondering were it not for the detailed 3D graphic analysis afforded by the Foresight LM system - which validates what the lie board test results.  

Lie boards are generally called that for a reason 😎

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Lie boards are generally called that for a reason

That’s exactly what Scott said!
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That’s exactly what Scott said!
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He's obviously a very intelligent guy 😜

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Hmm, that is going to make your test case/review ever more interesting.  Your experience would have me wondering were it not for the detailed 3D graphic analysis afforded by the Foresight LM system - which validates what the lie board test results.  

I guess we’ll know a lot more in the next few weeks, on course and the LM.
Waiting patiently for delivery


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5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead

Irons; Ping G410 5-SW & Mizno 919 Hot Metal 5-SW

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He's obviously a very intelligent guy

Of course


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I guess we’ll know a lot more in the next few weeks, on course and the LM.
Waiting patiently for delivery


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I’m looking forward to your review partner 🏌️♂️


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So I went for my fitting today!  First and foremost I would like to once again say THANK YOU MGS for allowing me the opportunity and trust to do this write up.  I would especially like say THANK YOU to Golfspy_CG2!  We met for the first time today at the fitting.  We had the perfect day for a fitting today...54 degrees and steady rain.  I was fitted into green dot irons standard length with Dynamic Gold 120 X100 shafts.  Wait till tomorrow for more. 

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37 minutes ago, ballplayer002003 said:

So I went for my fitting today!  First and foremost I would like to once again say THANK YOU MGS for allowing me the opportunity and trust to do this write up.  I would especially like say THANK YOU to Golfspy_CG2!  We met for the first time today at the fitting.  We had the perfect day for a fitting today...54 degrees and steady rain.  I was fitted into green dot irons standard length with Dynamic Gold 120 X100 shafts.  Wait till tomorrow for more. 

Great to meet you and thanks for letting me watch along with it.  I think you got a good thorough fitting from John with some solid recommemdstions.  

I won't spill any of the beans...other than Ballplayer can hit the ball.   That shaft is no joke.  

I took a swing with it just for giggles.  I was actually surprised I got decent height on it and it went straight.  Ha.  So I quit while I was ahead. 

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On 10/18/2019 at 7:08 PM, Rickp said:


Yes, I’ve had several Fittings from different people stretched out over maybe dozen + years. Most results were 2’ up one time 3’ up. This time he also came up with 2’ with the board. I could tell he didn’t like it that’s when he asked me if we could experiment which I jumped at. He marked a line on a ball and I hit with the 2’ up, line was near toe, again hit with 1’ flat mark moved towards center of face, 2’ flat mark was near center of face an felt great.
The G410 irons will be 2’ flat and the experiment begins.

My fitter did something similar when I was having trouble making good strikes based on the basic measurements. Marked the line on the ball... gave me a setup he said was 'a little off from the numbers'.. and .. balls flying right down the line like magic. We didn't use a lie board but the only time I was ever fitted on one the result was adjust to 1/2" long. My G410s will be 3/4" longer than standard. 

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I guess we’ll know a lot more in the next few weeks, on course and the LM.
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Update from Rob, the AWT shafts I was fitted into needed to be back ordered, so maybe a few days more patience in the offing 🤞

Sounds like we all had a good experience with the fittings though. For all the readers, it is something re-iterated throughout many of the forum threads, the MGS Blog, and the No Putts Given podcast. If  you want to have the best chance to find the best equipment to help you play better.... GET FIT!

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9 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Great to meet you and thanks for letting me watch along with it.  I think you got a good thorough fitting from John with some solid recommemdstions.  

I won't spill any of the beans...other than Ballplayer can hit the ball.   That shaft is no joke.  

I took a swing with it just for giggles.  I was actually surprised I got decent height on it and it went straight.  Ha.  So I quit while I was ahead. 

Thanks again for coming.  We will definitely have to get out there and play a round or two.  

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4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

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As you know, yesterday I was fitted for my PING G410's.  I met Golfspy CG_2 at Arundel Golf Park (which is right next to BWI Airport).  I have to say, at first I was a bit concerned being that it was in the mid to low 50's and had been steadily raining all day.  I called them early that morning to make sure they were open and to my surprise they were.  For me, this was about an hour and a half ride so I had to make sure.  The radar showed nothing but green on the screen for the next several hours so you can obviously see my concern.  I checked to see if they had an indoor fitting area and they did not. 

Upon entering their drive, I was greeted by a miniature golf course and I continued to think...how good can this place be?!  I went inside and was greeted by a friendly staff and a nice proshop.  I then walked outside to the hitting bays and boy was I wrong.  The hitting bays were well covered and dry (think Top Golf), with automatic ball machines in the matts.  Much to my surprise, there were people there hitting...in this weather...a lot of people!  

I then met John Miller, my fitter.  John knew his stuff.  He first measured me standing with a closed fist for my lie angle (which I am 2 degrees upright).  Next he had me swing a club with Mizuno's shaft optimizer on it.  Three swings and it was able to spit out about a dozen shafts.  The top shaft was the Dynamic Gold 120 x100 shaft.  In my head this is too much shaft for me.  I currently play a Modus 120 x shaft but that is because Modus shafts tend to be a bit weak.  I told John, I liked my Modus shaft and it WAS located on the list but it was the LAST one on the list.  

John asked me what I like to feel in the shaft and I simply told him I want it to feel like a baseball bat (hence my name Ballplayer...for baseball player).  He set me up with the one I wanted and the one he thought and long story short, I don't know what the hell I am talking about.  He was right 100%.  The Dynamic Gold shaft felt much more rigid throughout.  I couldn't feel it loading which I don't want to feel anyway. 

Now I was still launching the ball sky high!  To help combat this, John suggested that I go with the Power Spec option.  I will be the first to say, earlier on, I questioned why PING would include this option and thought it was more for ego than anything, but again...I'm not that smart.  I will just have to get used to the fact that now my gap wedge will be like my old PW and my PW will now hit like my 9 iron etc.  This should be a fun test.  I will say though the ball flew pretty straight and true.  I had a few baby fades and one or two shanks but the ball flew to the target.   One side note that John thought was interesting was that he noticed when looking at the numbers that with these clubs I tend to back the ball up once the ball lands.  Who knew?! 

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4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

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As you know, yesterday I was fitted for my PING G410's.  I met Golfspy CG_2 at Arundel Golf Park (which is right next to BWI Airport).  I have to say, at first I was a bit concerned being that it was in the mid to low 50's and had been steadily raining all day.  I called them early that morning to make sure they were open and to my surprise they were.  For me, this was about an hour and a half ride so I had to make sure.  The radar showed nothing but green on the screen for the next several hours so you can obviously see my concern.  I checked to see if they had an indoor fitting area and they did not. 
Upon entering their drive, I was greeted by a miniature golf course and I continued to think...how good can this place be?!  I went inside and was greeted by a friendly staff and a nice proshop.  I then walked outside to the hitting bays and boy was I wrong.  The hitting bays were well covered and dry (think Top Golf), with automatic ball machines in the matts.  Much to my surprise, there were people there hitting...in this weather...a lot of people!  
I then met John Miller, my fitter.  John knew his stuff.  He first measured me standing with a closed fist for my lie angle (which I am 2 degrees upright).  Next he had me swing a club with Mizuno's shaft optimizer on it.  Three swings and it was able to spit out about a dozen shafts.  The top shaft was the Dynamic Gold 120 x100 shaft.  In my head this is too much shaft for me.  I currently play a Modus 120 x shaft but that is because Modus shafts tend to be a bit weak.  I told John, I liked my Modus shaft and it WAS located on the list but it was the LAST one on the list.  
John asked me what I like to feel in the shaft and I simply told him I want it to feel like a baseball bat (hence my name Ballplayer...for baseball player).  He set me up with the one I wanted and the one he thought and long story short, I don't know what the hell I am talking about.  He was right 100%.  The Dynamic Gold shaft felt much more rigid throughout.  I couldn't feel it loading which I don't want to feel anyway. 
Now I was still launching the ball sky high!  To help combat this, John suggested that I go with the Power Spec option.  I will be the first to say, earlier on, I questioned why PING would include this option and thought it was more for ego than anything, but again...I'm not that smart.  I will just have to get used to the fact that now my gap wedge will be like my old PW and my PW will now hit like my 9 iron etc.  This should be a fun test.  I will say though the ball flew pretty straight and true.  I had a few baby fades and one or two shanks but the ball flew to the target.   One side note that John thought was interesting was that he noticed when looking at the numbers that with these clubs I tend to back the ball up once the ball lands.  Who knew?! 
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Sounds like a great fitting in a miserable day. This should be fun Bud


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5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead

Irons; Ping G410 5-SW & Mizno 919 Hot Metal 5-SW

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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Sounds like a great fitting in a miserable day. This should be fun Budemoji106.png


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It was a great fitting on such a gloomy day.  As we started rolling, I didn't even notice the gloom anymore.  It was great too, seeing so many people out at the range.

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FED X made a delivery short time ago.....IMG_0255.JPGIMG_0257.JPG


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5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead

Irons; Ping G410 5-SW & Mizno 919 Hot Metal 5-SW

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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FED X made a delivery short time ago.....IMG_0255.thumb.JPG.e3e71f35caa4aa5aa2a06264a8148edb.JPGIMG_0257.thumb.JPG.82a9b831d341263ae9af0f05c8e7f63a.JPG


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Ping 7 iron on the left current gamer 7i on the right. I can’t see any big difference.
Waiting for rain to stop B4 I stick my head outside.
Tomorrow playing a tough Exec, Wednesday playing the same 9 I played this morning so can make some quick assessments.
Gave the a Pings a close inspection and fit and finish lot good.
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Left Hand, 

Driver; Ping G410 Plus

5 Wood; Cally Steelhead 

5 Hybrid; Cally Steelhead

Irons; Ping G410 5-SW & Mizno 919 Hot Metal 5-SW

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Love it Rick!  I figured they would be in early this week.  Can't wait to hear how they do.  @ballplayer002003 I got confirmation your order is in the works and should be on your doorstep early next week! 

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Debut round is Thursday. 

Can't wait!

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