YaBish86 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Look there is a ton of confusing information out there about pured shafts and if it actually matters. If it did i would think that every tour player would have it done. I’ve seen claims of yardage increases and various other claims are there any truths to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Been some discussion in this before. Some say yes. some say no. Some say it used to work when shafts were not manufactured as well and had spines. Only way to tell would be to take club and pure it and capture numbers. Then turn the shaft into various orientations and capture more numbers. That approach might give an answer for that shaft line, but not necessarily for and other shaft line or manufacturer. TR1PTIK 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 ... To add to what cnosil said, I used to spine align my steel iron shafts. I had Dynamic Gold shafts that had such obvious spines they were hard to roll on a cement floor. But production has gotten sooooo much better. Kim Braley and Nippon set the bar very high so everyone else had to step up their game. I play graphite in my irons and most are over 99% round. But I did just install some Nippon 105's in my P790's and for the heck of it, I checked their spines and basically could not find any. I would probably still check the spines of any steel shafts I installed but I would never pay for SST Puring. Ymmv ... cnosil 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 I did have my graphite iron shafts pured for my current set of irons that I ordered. Since I don't have before and after data to compare, I can't comment if it was worth the $$ or not. Here's what I do know....I don't have any doubts niggling in the back of my mind that maybe if I'd only done this....blah blah. In any case, I'm hitting my irons very consistently and any faults with the results lay solely on me and my swing. My hybrids, wedges, and woods are not pured (Driver was). I hit the hybrids pretty straight. Driver's another story, but again, that's more me than anything else. Bottom line: I don't really know one way or the other. THEZIPR23, TR1PTIK and cnosil 3 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: L.A.B. DF 2.1 -- BGT Stability shaft Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Take it for what you want but I’ve had two people from different shaft companies say it isn’t necessary chisag 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 When I was still playing a Nike Vapor Pro driver, I purchased a different shaft and had it "pured". The club worked well, but not having anything to go off of, I don't know if it was worth the money. When I switched to my Ping G25, I purchased that same shaft without puring to try in the new head. It doesn't seem to be a good match for me at all. The shaft feels okay, but it launches the ball with too little spin and it drops out of the air. Maybe there's a difference because of the shaft's alignment, but more than likely the difference comes from the vastly different driver head. I'm still holding onto the shaft to try when I get my club head speed up where I want it, but currently the stock shaft works just fine for me. I do have to agree with what @CarlH said though. If you want absolute peace of mind that your clubs are spec'd out as well as they possibly could be, then it isn't going to hurt anything (except your checkbook) to do it. Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 ... Fwiw, I also used to Flo my driver shafts and was amazed at how badly some stock shafts wobbled while premium after market shafts stayed more in a straight line. Seemed pretty obvious to me there was an advantage to Floing driver shafts. But I played a round with the VP of Engineering that designed the NV as well as many other shafts and they used to align their shafts at the factory. But high speed photography showed that every single shaft, regardless of orientation produced a perfectly straight line on the first pass. Aldila stopped orienting shafts as they thought it was a wast of time. Cheaper shafts of poorer quality began to wobble quickly but of course we only swing our driver once. So Floing only exposes the quality of the shaft, not it's potential to stay on line when swinging it. ... And obviously this also meant the shafts that flowed much better were more consistent from shaft to shaft while the ones that wobbled were all over the place. This is the main reason premium shafts are very similar and when you buy a new 3 wood to match your driver you can feel pretty sure performance will be the same, where you could get 2 radically different performing shafts going the cheap route. cnosil 1 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Qi10 5 wood ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Diamana LTD 65r DHy #4 ... Steelfiber 780Hy Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli/ Maxfli Tour/TP5x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 5 hours ago, TR1PTIK said: Maybe there's a difference because of the shaft's alignment, but more than likely the difference comes from the vastly different driver head. Head trumps any/most shafts. Puring is a bit of a placebo for some. Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaBish86 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Did you ever flo iron steel shafts. My modus 120 had a lot of oscillation in them when i did 1 of my irons. I have my driver pured right now have two hybrids that i am scared to do anything with because i hit them great 1 of my irons i have pured and i haven’t picked up yardage but can tell it loads different......switching out of the modus and going to a dynamic gold black gold frequency matched tour iron shaft and was thinking of either pureing or spine align at minimum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said: Head trumps any/most shafts. Puring is a bit of a placebo for some. I don't disagree. Just making the statement for the purpose of this discussion. My experience with multiple Ping driver heads is that they are lower spin for me. Edited September 25, 2019 by TR1PTIK Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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