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I think he may do alright on the Champions Tour so there's a little hope for the future. 

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At this point I'm not to sure Tiger will play competitive again

 

 

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I think he may do alright on the Champions Tour so there's a little hope for the future.

I think he has too much pride to play on the champions tour. Especially if he still can't win.

 

 

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I think he has too much pride to play on the champions tour. Especially if he still can't win.

 

 

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I want for it to so bad be option 3 but i think it will be like an option 2.5. Make cuts get a win here and there but probably nothing huge. Ill just be happy to see him back in action whenever that is.

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Initially, I'm just glad that he is still alive and did not end up like Elvis or Michael Jackson.   What's with these doctors that provide the type of prescriptions that could form such a drug cocktail.   

 

As far as his future golf, he's had several back operations, sometimes the slightest back injury can last for a lifetime and limit activity.   What has he not accomplished other than more majors than Jack.   If I were he, with the wealth he has obtained, I would just enjoy the fruits of my past efforts and not risk more pain and injury.

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Miss the days when Tiger ruled and Nike was trying to figure out the equipment business.  But Tiger's major days are over.  If he can ever fully recover and compete again, I think he will make the cut for most tournaments he enters.  However I don't see  him contending for wins.  With his exceptional attention to detail and personal drive, I believe he could/would make an incredible coach. 

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Miss the days when Tiger ruled and Nike was trying to figure out the equipment business. But Tiger's major days are over. If he can ever fully recover and compete again, I think he will make the cut for most tournaments he enters. However I don't see him contending for wins. With his exceptional attention to detail and personal drive, I believe he could/would make an incredible coach.

I'll never forget the urban legend I heard about him. Back when Nike was first getting into the equipment game, they said Tiger's equipment and balls were actually inferior to the other tour players. AND HE STILL DOMINATED!

 

That was the old debate back then, how good could he have been if he used Titleist or TM instead?

 

 

 

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IMHO, It was not his equipment that got him where he was, but rather his belief in his own invincibility.  That confidence, that nobody could touch him, nobody could beat him, and that he was head and shoulders above the field was his most powerful weapon.  Even look at or talk with tour players at the time- they were intimidated by his presence.  Coupled with his tremendous talent, work ethic and desire to win, made Tiger an amazing athlete to watch.

 

After his "fall" from the pedestal, he lost that confidence -he knew (even if he didn't acknowledge it) that he was no longer invincible.  That intangible is gone forever.  Given the additional trouble he has had with physical issues (knee, back, etc), now that the mental "advantage" he had is gone, I don't think he will ever be able to compete at the same level again.

 

Golf is a mental game- What was it that Bobby Jones said, "Competitive golf is played primarily on a 5 1/2 inch course - between the ears"  and without that advantage, without that belief in oneself, you are already one step behind.

 

When I am hitting the ball well, I am confident that I know exactly where the ball is going - and it usually does.  When I am unsure, the tentative nature of my mind can cause a tentative swing with disastrous results.  And nobody is carrying my bag on Sunday except me, so...  Why do you think there are so many sports psychologists around today?

 

I loved to watch Tiger play- I loved that confidence and that ability coupled to make a complete player- without both, however, it is not the same, and that is truly unfortunate.

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IMHO, It was not his equipment that got him where he was, but rather his belief in his own invincibility.  That confidence, that nobody could touch him, nobody could beat him, and that he was head and shoulders above the field was his most powerful weapon.  Even look at or talk with tour players at the time- they were intimidated by his presence.  Coupled with his tremendous talent, work ethic and desire to win, made Tiger an amazing athlete to watch.

 

After his "fall" from the pedestal, he lost that confidence -he knew (even if he didn't acknowledge it) that he was no longer invincible.  That intangible is gone forever.  Given the additional trouble he has had with physical issues (knee, back, etc), now that the mental "advantage" he had is gone, I don't think he will ever be able to compete at the same level again.

 

Golf is a mental game- What was it that Bobby Jones said, "Competitive golf is played primarily on a 5 1/2 inch course - between the ears"  and without that advantage, without that belief in oneself, you are already one step behind.

 

When I am hitting the ball well, I am confident that I know exactly where the ball is going - and it usually does.  When I am unsure, the tentative nature of my mind can cause a tentative swing with disastrous results.  And nobody is carrying my bag on Sunday except me, so...  Why do you think there are so many sports psychologists around today?

 

I loved to watch Tiger play- I loved that confidence and that ability coupled to make a complete player- without both, however, it is not the same, and that is truly unfortunate.

There are a lot of players today that are just as good as Tiger was in his early days. They grew up watching and idolizing Tiger's play.  I agree that the intimidation factor was huge in his ability to close out tournaments.  That's gone now.  He doesn't intimidate anyone.  No one today is going to dominate like he did, because no one is intimidating.  Anybody can win at any time, as demonstrated by the number of first-time winners this year and 3 of 4 first time major winners.  

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I'd really like to see him do well, but my gut says he won't.  Should be interesting to see when he actually plays in the first tournament.  If history is any indicator, it may be a long time coming until "he's ready" not just physically cleared to play.  I think once he finally does get back in the game, he won't do too well to begin with and that will crush him.  Probably, if he'd stick it out, he could get back to form where he could be competitive.  I don't think he will though ... I suspect he'll have another "injury" and have to withdrawal from competition, which will be a shame.

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I say he win's the first tournament he enters.... Which will be the local qualifier for the putt putt championship of South East Florida 😁

 

On the tour, makes a few cuts warming up back into competitive play then wins a tournament within the first year. No majors until year 2 back on tour.

 

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I say he win's the first tournament he enters.... Which will be the local qualifier for the putt putt championship of South East Florida

 

On the tour, makes a few cuts warming up back into competitive play then wins a tournament within the first year. No majors until year 2 back on tour.

 

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Honestly I feel like the game has moved on from Tiger.  Would it be good for golf if he came back and won, yes.  Do I see this happening?  No. 

 

A lot of comments on here how people want him to come back.  Golf is a game of honor and respect.  Both of which Tiger does not stand for.  I am sure there are others on Tour that do the exact same thing as Tiger, but it makes it hard to root for those people.

 

He won his last major in 2008.  We have kids that are 9 years old and really have never seen what Tiger is.  Those kids are all rooting for the likes of Justin, Jordan, DJ and Ricky. 

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Honestly I feel like the game has moved on from Tiger. Would it be good for golf if he came back and won, yes. Do I see this happening? No.

 

A lot of comments on here how people want him to come back. Golf is a game of honor and respect. Both of which Tiger does not stand for. I am sure there are others on Tour that do the exact same thing as Tiger, but it makes it hard to root for those people.

 

He won his last major in 2008. We have kids that are 9 years old and really have never seen what Tiger is. Those kids are all rooting for the likes of Justin, Jordan, DJ and Ricky.

I agree. Plus there are so many great young players out there I think he'll have a tough time.

 

 

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Tiger is done....I don't think he ever wins on tour again

 

 

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Give him 1 maybe 2 wins. 0 majors.

But I could be wrong and he goes on a tear to get on Ryder team.

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Is it when or if... he returns?

Several times the hype has been put out there already.

And for my 2 cents Tiger is just that in golf now; Hype. Selling, click bait, and the rest is what it or he has become.

Even during the Pres Cup he had to have his woman in toe and on your screen.

And while his grateness cannot be denied his other life situatuions cannot be either and now it is all part of the show. Just as Phil has to fill your screen with his diminished abilities so will Tiger, maybe. If he wins that would be great for him and golf. Im all for it while to this day and probably ever more it will the tiger show running in the back ground if not front and center like now.

And truthfully I couldnt care less. He is what he is and was what he was.

JT is the phenom that might just rival them all while winning majors will be the test of time as always, and untill someone surpasses Tiger it will be this endless show about this myth of a golfer. If tiger were to dispell the myth that golf ruined his knee and the rest he might have some cred with those who know but the fact that his weekend warrior fixation with real seals did him in is never broached is just more of the myth you are sold, and the truth that was and is left out. To be taught to hit a ball from the crib is what the truly greats will be made of from now on and those that were are nothing like you or me or joe hacker in the first place. It is all part of the big "show" and tiger is all about that.

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Is it when or if... he returns?

Several times the hype has been put out there already.

And for my 2 cents Tiger is just that in golf now; Hype. Selling, click bait, and the rest is what it or he has become.

Even during the Pres Cup he had to have his woman in toe and on your screen.

And while his grateness cannot be denied his other life situatuions cannot be either and now it is all part of the show. Just as Phil has to fill your screen with his diminished abilities so will Tiger, maybe. If he wins that would be great for him and golf. Im all for it while to this day and probably ever more it will the tiger show running in the back ground if not front and center like now.

And truthfully I couldnt care less. He is what he is and was what he was.

JT is the phenom that might just rival them all while winning majors will be the test of time as always, and untill someone surpasses Tiger it will be this endless show about this myth of a golfer. If tiger were to dispell the myth that golf ruined his knee and the rest he might have some cred with those who know but the fact that his weekend warrior fixation with real seals did him in is never broached is just more of the myth you are sold, and the truth that was and is left out. To be taught to hit a ball from the crib is what the truly greats will be made of from now on and those that were are nothing like you or me or joe hacker in the first place. It is all part of the big "show" and tiger is all about that.

But did you see the video of him hitting stingers? He's ready to win the Masters man!

 

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PS. I love how this is a 7 year old topic but is still relevant each and every year. If you look back, OP posted the question in 2010. Much has changed since then with Tiger but much has stayed the same as well.

 

 

 

 

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While he will continue to blame various physical issues, the reason why he will never be great again is all  the mental baggage he carries around.  He has done a great deal of damage to his legacy which he knows cannot be undone!

 

I find him kind of a sad, pathetic character a this point, particularly from a 'could-have-been-a-role-model' point of view!.. -_-

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But did you see the video of him hitting stingers? He's ready to win the Masters man!

 

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PS. I love how this is a 7 year old topic but is still relevant each and every year. If you look back, OP posted the question in 2010. Much has changed since then with Tiger but much has stayed the same as well.

 

 

 

 

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He can't win the Masters hitting only stingers.  The only way that he will contend again is if he can play 3 tournaments in a row, hitting shots at full speed... pain free.  Unless his swing has changed enough to take stress off his body, I don't see that happening.

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You haven't ever made it until you have this level of hate. You guys hold people who tee the ball up to an unfairly high standard. Golf isn't a game of integrity and respect when we don't let girls win because they're girls, John Daly STILL has pizza pants, and guys on IG are hitting each other with golf carts -- it's just a game. The guy cheated on his wife and is addicted to pain meds, the narrative isn't new and I'm sure it has happened to other golfers, or even members of your family. The media just likes to see people fall from the top because it's a longer way down.

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I don't see him ever winning again.   I think it would be good for the game, good for TV, good for sponsors, but I don't see it happening.   And if Tiger can't win, I don't see him making token  appearances just for the money.   

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If Tiger is able to walk and play without pain, I expect him to play in Dubai IF they are willing to pay $2M appearance money.  I'm not sure they would do that. 

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I'm not sure Tiger could hang with Barnhard Langer on the Champions Tour much less Justin Thomas and the rest of the young guns on the regular tour......

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