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I suspect you've already seen Bryson's announcement that he wanted to bulk up in two months. According to him, he's right on schedule:

That's huge weight gain.

Alright, start with the easy jokes: this at least puts him in the same weight class as Brooks when they throw down over BD's slow play, etc.

But what's your prediction on the effect of this on his game? I'm intrigued. I'm certainly no expert, but looking at his full swing, it doesn't seem to me that he generates his power on the basis of limber fluidity. For that reason, I don't think this will hurt his full swing play at all. I have no expectations as to what effect it might have on his short game touch, but I lean toward the position that working out will make him a muscle-bound hulk with hands of stone is a myth that can be debunked.

Ultimately, the only stat that matters is scoring. So here's the question: will yoked up BD's scoring average from last season (70.177, 20th on Tour) go up or down this season?

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I’ve been closely following BAD’s off season program and pondered some of the same questions.

Considering the combo of his background and the single plane/length system, I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s working a theory where (increased lever mass = more stable delivery through the entire impact collision). And because he employs such little wrist action in his short game, I think a “mass = stability” theory may hold even more promise on the delicate shots (ie - green-side rough), where you cannot rely on speed to fend off torsional force. 

I’m also curious to learn more about the neuro side of his program. Which from my limited understanding, is aimed at maintaining twitch speed availability.

It’s easy to draw comparisons between Bryson and Johnny Miller... amateur pedigree, meteoric early professional career trajectory and subsequent massive lean gain goals. The latter arguably ruined Miller’s career and I’m very interesting to see how it affects different segments of Bryson’s game this season.

So to answer your question re: scoring average (total guess here) - not much change season long but significantly higher early season with charging late season improvements.

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I think overall it will be good for him. The part that worries me a little bit is the speed in which he has added the weight. That is usually a precursor to injury. I am sure he has the best people and fully researched it however that is my thought. My guess is scoring average stays very similar. 

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That much weight in a short period of time is water and food weight and more body fat than muscle.

as for the effects in his swing I think his one plane approach won’t be as impacted as someone not using ones plane. The body won’t need to adjust the swing as much as it would for someone else changing their body composition in either direction.

im curious how much this has to do the new shafts he will be playing from la golf. I believe they are even more of a big boy shaft than his current x7

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Muscle is heavier than fat. Thought the thread heading was about a tubby Bryson, glad to see its about a fitter one.

I had a PT for 6 months (before I got Married) and put on weight but looked slimmer and healthier- muscle.

The good thing about marriage is you can stop looking after yourself and eat anything you want..............😂

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He said in the comments that the weight gain was over the course of a year. 

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I don't think we'll see any kind of significant degradation of his game beyond what was mentioned by @downlowkey. If anything, I think the decision to add some muscle will simply allow Bryson to prolong his career as the extra mass and focus on twitch muscle fibers should allow him to swing a bit easier - though he could use it as an excuse to try and hit the ball further. 

As pointed out by @03trdblack, the additional weight was packed on over the course of the year so it most certainly isn't fat and water weight, and the visuals back that up. Even if he did pack on the muscle in a shorter span it's difficult to say where the gains would be coming from without knowing actual numbers or seeing more detailed photos (Bryson with his shirt off - I'll pass). Everyone puts on weight differently, and much like weight loss - where an overweight person can often lose weight faster and more easily than someone of a "normal" weight - weight gain can sometimes be achieved more easily by someone with a lower muscle mass. 

The thing I think I'm most surprised by is his target goal of 230lbs. Bryson is all of 2" taller than me according to Google and a lean 220lbs seems plenty big. Quite frankly, I wouldn't be looking to go much further than maybe 205lbs personally. I think we'll probably see him roll it back from 230lbs at some point to something that's more sustainable.

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Per the linked document he put on the weight over a matter of weeks. That is going to be more water weight and fat than muscle. He is curling 25lbs pretty easily and that’s not going to be any type of overload needed to build muscle. Maybe his goal is to add a bunch of weight/size then use that as a foundation to build muscle and get a little leaner off.

https://www.golf.com/news/2019/10/24/bryson-dechambeau-gaining-muscle-weight-quickly/

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I struggle to see how getting "more fit" would negatively impact one's game any worse than getting "less fit"

BD has always been very deliberate and "scientific" (some of it may be made up) in his approach to the game of golf. As long as he is still able to cash checks, then this body transformation worked for him.

I am not a big BD fan, but I appreciate that he approaches the game from a different perspective and succeeds with it.

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1 hour ago, palvord said:

I struggle to see how getting "more fit" would negatively impact one's game any worse than getting "less fit"

BD has always been very deliberate and "scientific" (some of it may be made up) in his approach to the game of golf. As long as he is still able to cash checks, then this body transformation worked for him.

I am not a big BD fan, but I appreciate that he approaches the game from a different perspective and succeeds with it.

Nothing wrong with getting fit but one has to be cognizant of the changes in ones physique and the effects it can have on the swing. Bigger guys that lose a lot of weight turn differently and the club moves differently since it doesn’t have to work around a bigger mass and it causes issues with timing and path. The same for those who had size it changes how the club moves and how the body moves.

 

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In answer to the question... dunno.  That's quite a bit of weight gain and I should think it would affect swing mechanics to some degree. In the case of pro's, this may not be as problematic because they are still practicing daily (likely) and can make adjustments in parallel. In watching the video clip I will say that, based on his facial expressions and apparent discomfort, he needs to be careful not to tear something up.  Shoulders and their mechanical innards aren't exactly the best designed joint on our anatomy.

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3 hours ago, fixyurdivot said:

In answer to the question... dunno.  That's quite a bit of weight gain and I should think it would affect swing mechanics to some degree. In the case of pro's, this may not be as problematic because they are still practicing daily (likely) and can make adjustments in parallel. In watching the video clip I will say that, based on his facial expressions and apparent discomfort, he needs to be careful not to tear something up.  Shoulders and their mechanical innards aren't exactly the best designed joint on our anatomy.

I have a feeling he is posting those pics in a manner to make you think he’s doing serious weight on the tricep extension but more than likely it’s not a lot of weight just making it look that way

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Those videos and pics also don't show where in his set he was.

Bryson talked about how he is attacking his strength training regime in an interview a few weeks back.

He's working out in a very specific fashion with specific exercises so that he doesn't hurt himself or cause any long-term damage while he trains as near as possible the tipping point so he's getting the maximum result.

As with anything Bryson, this is not a prototypical fitness plan.

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I honestly don’t see a difference. Maybe once he stands next to someone else I’ll get a better view. But I’m that video above he looks the exact same to me at least. 

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13 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

Dude likes to ramble off things that feed into his scientist persona. 

Or maybe he's done some research and is working with professionals who know what they're doing better than any of us. There's a lot more science to packing on weight than what you appear to suggest. He could be (and most likely is) using a combination of methods to properly target and fatigue his muscles based on the specifics of his personal goals.

If you know anything, you can see in the video that he is doing an isolation movement with some pretty strict form which very often requires less weight. It's also possible he could be working on a hypertrophy set which is a common method employed by body builders to pack on muscle mass as it breaks down the muscle fibers beyond that of your "normal" weight lifting. Of course, he'd have to be mixing in some sort of heavy core lifts or other explosive movements (box jumps for instance) to target twitch muscle fibers, and work on recruiting multiple muscle groups simultaneously - something very important and relevant to the golf swing.

I wouldn't call myself an expert on anything, but my best friend is a body builder and I have some past experience from my younger days as well so I have done quite a bit of research to know that you can't lump what Bryson is doing into one box or another - same as Tiger, same as Rory, etc., etc..

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2 hours ago, TR1PTIK said:

Or maybe he's done some research and is working with professionals who know what they're doing better than any of us. There's a lot more science to packing on weight than what you appear to suggest. He could be (and most likely is) using a combination of methods to properly target and fatigue his muscles based on the specifics of his personal goals.

If you know anything, you can see in the video that he is doing an isolation movement with some pretty strict form which very often requires less weight. It's also possible he could be working on a hypertrophy set which is a common method employed by body builders to pack on muscle mass as it breaks down the muscle fibers beyond that of your "normal" weight lifting. Of course, he'd have to be mixing in some sort of heavy core lifts or other explosive movements (box jumps for instance) to target twitch muscle fibers, and work on recruiting multiple muscle groups simultaneously - something very important and relevant to the golf swing.

I wouldn't call myself an expert on anything, but my best friend is a body builder and I have some past experience from my younger days as well so I have done quite a bit of research to know that you can't lump what Bryson is doing into one box or another - same as Tiger, same as Rory, etc., etc..

I’m familiar with weight training and hypertrophy sets and the big lifts and have worked with several coaches of which some were/are bodybuilders and others who are strictly powerlifters. I also talk to several people who compete in both disciplines and follow several people on Instagram that have PhD in various disciplines around physical therapy, nutrition, strength training and some who are actual medical doctors. 
 

what he said in that post has never been said by anyone I know.  And the facial expression he is making while doing tricep extensions is not one anyone makes when using light weights. 

40 minutes ago, FrogginBullfish said:

Bryson is working directly with Greg Roskopf. Here's his website.

https://muscleactivation.com/team/greg-roskopf/

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Bryson likes to sound smart. He could have easily taken something his coach said and made it sound way more complicated and smart to fool people who follow him. Bryson is known for trolling.

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Decided to go they the comments in that post. Bryson says he wants to get stronger wrists. The 3 pics he posted aren’t doing anything to help that. He says he wants to be functionally strong but yet he isn’t doing deadlifts and neither bicep curls or tricep extensions will help with functional strength although tricep extensions will have a better carry over into being able to press more weight and in another goal he stated to be like a gymnast.  He talks about getting stronger thru full range of motion which any trainer or athlete would agree is necessary but again the lifts he is showing other than dips aren’t doing anything for his goal.

as for adding muscle a newbie lifter under the right nutrition and strength training could had 10-20 lbs in the first year and after that muscle gain slows to 7-8lbs a year and lower as time progresses for natural lifters

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