edingc 8,398 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I recently purchased a set of Maltby PTMs on eBay that came with Recoil 660 graphite shafts. I am planning to put C-Taper Lites in these instead, so I need to remove the shafts. I brought the clubs to my local shop to have the lies adjusted, and was going to have them pull the shafts also, but for the price ($12/shaft), I figured I'd buy a puller and give it a go myself. (Any excuse to buy more tools! ). I know I can just pull the shafts without a puller if I trash them, but these are nice shafts. Tested myself with the 7 iron tonight. Removed the ferrule, mounted the puller in my vise and applied heat to the hosel for about 20 seconds with a butane pencil torch. Everything worked great with the puller and the 20 seconds of heat was enough to break the epoxy loose. But after I pulled and cleaned the head, I noticed that a small part of the shaft tip appears to be "smushed." For those more experienced clubmakers out there, I assume this shaft is ruined? If so, is this the result of too much heat? I removed the old epoxy from the tip and it still fits to the bottom of the hosel bore just fine. I still got a good deal on the whole set, so if I trashed one shaft, oh well. Learning experience, I suppose. Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 9.5 (Last Updated March 13, 2021) Driver: Callaway Mavrik (9°), 45.75", Dumina AutoFlex SF505X | Unofficial AutoFlex Review 17° Hybrid: Callaway Super Hybrid, 41.5", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 18.5° Driving Iron: Cobra KING Utility (2016 Model), 39.5", Mitsubishi MMT Utility 105 TX 21° Hybrid: Callaway Epic Flash, 40", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 4-AW: Sub70 699 (4-6)/699 Pro (7-AW) Combo Set, 1° Flat, 37" 7 Iron, Mitsubishi MMT Taper 105 TX | Build Thread 54°, 58°: Cobra KING MIM Black, 1° Flat, 35.5", 35.25", Mitsubishi MMT Wedge 105 TX | #CobraConnect Review Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Lamkin Sonar Tour Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Arccos | #CobraConnect Review Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: CaddyTek Caddylite EZ V8 | Unofficial Review WITB? | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to post Share on other sites
FiveGs 75 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 20 seconds is not too much heat. I have a feeling that these were pulled incorrectly from another set of irons before being installed in the ones you purchased.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 2 Quote “I should of yelled Two!” Driver: PXG 0811x Gen 2 / Tour AD TP6s 3W: PXG 0341x Gen 1 / Tour AD TP6s 3DI: Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi / Pro Modus 3 120 Stiff 4-PW: Mizuno MP-20 MMC / KBS $Taper 120 Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM7 52-08 F, 56-10 S, 60-12 D Putter: Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2 Custom Shop Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Sun Mountain C-130 Cart: Clicgear 4.0 Link to post Share on other sites
edingc 8,398 Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 10 hours ago, FiveGs said: 20 seconds is not too much heat. I have a feeling that these were pulled incorrectly from another set of irons before being installed in the ones you purchased. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro The build quality on the set was not great, ferrules not installed properly, tool marks on ferrules, etc., so that may be the case. Thanks. We'll see how the other six look when they come out. 2 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 9.5 (Last Updated March 13, 2021) Driver: Callaway Mavrik (9°), 45.75", Dumina AutoFlex SF505X | Unofficial AutoFlex Review 17° Hybrid: Callaway Super Hybrid, 41.5", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 18.5° Driving Iron: Cobra KING Utility (2016 Model), 39.5", Mitsubishi MMT Utility 105 TX 21° Hybrid: Callaway Epic Flash, 40", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 4-AW: Sub70 699 (4-6)/699 Pro (7-AW) Combo Set, 1° Flat, 37" 7 Iron, Mitsubishi MMT Taper 105 TX | Build Thread 54°, 58°: Cobra KING MIM Black, 1° Flat, 35.5", 35.25", Mitsubishi MMT Wedge 105 TX | #CobraConnect Review Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Lamkin Sonar Tour Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Arccos | #CobraConnect Review Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: CaddyTek Caddylite EZ V8 | Unofficial Review WITB? | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to post Share on other sites
10shot 107 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 No issue, glue in a lead stem from a swing weight, rock on (just for support) . Graphite, heat gun works best IMO 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
edingc 8,398 Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 56 minutes ago, 10shot said: No issue, glue in a lead stem from a swing weight, rock on (just for support) . Graphite, heat gun works best IMO Thanks! The graphite didn't de-laminate so I thought it might be OK. I've been reading a bunch of torch vs. heat gun debates around different forums and understand there are people on both sides of that argument. I have both at my disposal, I just preferred the precision of the micro torch. I'll have to try both ways. Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 9.5 (Last Updated March 13, 2021) Driver: Callaway Mavrik (9°), 45.75", Dumina AutoFlex SF505X | Unofficial AutoFlex Review 17° Hybrid: Callaway Super Hybrid, 41.5", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 18.5° Driving Iron: Cobra KING Utility (2016 Model), 39.5", Mitsubishi MMT Utility 105 TX 21° Hybrid: Callaway Epic Flash, 40", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 4-AW: Sub70 699 (4-6)/699 Pro (7-AW) Combo Set, 1° Flat, 37" 7 Iron, Mitsubishi MMT Taper 105 TX | Build Thread 54°, 58°: Cobra KING MIM Black, 1° Flat, 35.5", 35.25", Mitsubishi MMT Wedge 105 TX | #CobraConnect Review Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Lamkin Sonar Tour Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Arccos | #CobraConnect Review Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: CaddyTek Caddylite EZ V8 | Unofficial Review WITB? | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to post Share on other sites
McGolf 289 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 20 seconds may have not been enough. It appears there might be some of the shaft still in the hosel. I would recommend 15- 20 sec on three different sides. then pull it. and I'm on team butane and micro torch. 2 Quote Driver - 44.5" 5.0 flex 10.5 deg ACCRA tour Z GP MCC4+ 1 deg closed Irons - 5-pw, GW stnd length 5.0 flex same grip 1 deg flat. Type low medium offset cavity back, no diggers Wedges - 56 and 60 tour grind wedge spinner and mcc4+ grip 2 flat 10 and 8 in bounce Putter - 33" 3 deg loft 70 lie, lrg slight line slightly toe hang Ball - truvis Carried in a Sun Mountain C-130 USA bag - BE PROUD. HC - LH but 85 is a good number, playing in Ohio. Link to post Share on other sites
FiveGs 75 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 20 seconds may have not been enough. It appears there might be some of the shaft still in the hosel. I would recommend 15- 20 sec on three different sides. then pull it. and I'm on team butane and micro torch.I totally agree. You want to apply a good amount of heat in a small amount of time to avoid transferring heat to the components around the hosel, like the shaft etc.. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 1 Quote “I should of yelled Two!” Driver: PXG 0811x Gen 2 / Tour AD TP6s 3W: PXG 0341x Gen 1 / Tour AD TP6s 3DI: Mizuno MP-18 MMC Fli-Hi / Pro Modus 3 120 Stiff 4-PW: Mizuno MP-20 MMC / KBS $Taper 120 Stiff Wedges: Vokey SM7 52-08 F, 56-10 S, 60-12 D Putter: Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2 Custom Shop Ball: Pro V1 Bag: Sun Mountain C-130 Cart: Clicgear 4.0 Link to post Share on other sites
edingc 8,398 Posted November 4, 2019 Author Share Posted November 4, 2019 Thanks, everyone. I pulled the rest of the shafts this weekend and about half of them had the same result. I do think these may have been pulled improperly at one point in their lifetime. @McGolf On the rest of them, a few 15-20 second bursts spread around the hosel worked like a charm. Thanks! 2 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 9.5 (Last Updated March 13, 2021) Driver: Callaway Mavrik (9°), 45.75", Dumina AutoFlex SF505X | Unofficial AutoFlex Review 17° Hybrid: Callaway Super Hybrid, 41.5", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 18.5° Driving Iron: Cobra KING Utility (2016 Model), 39.5", Mitsubishi MMT Utility 105 TX 21° Hybrid: Callaway Epic Flash, 40", Mitsubishi MMT Hybrid 80 TX 4-AW: Sub70 699 (4-6)/699 Pro (7-AW) Combo Set, 1° Flat, 37" 7 Iron, Mitsubishi MMT Taper 105 TX | Build Thread 54°, 58°: Cobra KING MIM Black, 1° Flat, 35.5", 35.25", Mitsubishi MMT Wedge 105 TX | #CobraConnect Review Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Lamkin Sonar Tour Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Arccos | #CobraConnect Review Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: CaddyTek Caddylite EZ V8 | Unofficial Review WITB? | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to post Share on other sites
edteergolf 312 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 They weren't pulled improperly. They were either over-prepped at installation or have been installed into multiple sets with too much prep after each pull. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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