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CLEVELAND FRONTLINE PUTTER REVIEW

Follow along as five MGS members put the Cleveland Frontline Putter technology to work and see if it helps their putting game.

Frontline Putters Elevado

 

The Five testers are:

@txgolfjunkie              Review Link

@romeopapazulu       Review Link

@DaveP043                Review Link

@ChasingScratch        Review Link

@RexS                          Review Link

 

 

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Hey fellow spies! ChasingScratch here with another review. I’m excited to share my findings with you so you can decide if the new Cleveland Frontline putters are something you should consider for your bag.

 

Right out the gate, I’ll admit I have some skepticism. I really like the look and feel of my custom fit Ping Sigma2 Tyne 4 putter. It is a mallet with toe hang. As such, I decided to get the Frontline model that was the most similar to this putter so I went with the Elevado.

 

I’ve played one round with it so far, and putted indoors on my putting mat numerous times.

 

Just to get your interest peaked, here are images of my front and back nine scores for the maiden voyage with the Elevado:

 

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Those birdie putts were from:

 

1) 19ft

2) 2ft (20ft eagle putt missed so a tap in)

3) 19ft

4) 18ft

5) 5ft

6) 13ft

 

I rarely make anything outside of 7ft, so this was VERY encouraging start with this putter.

 

You will see two 3-putts on the card. One was from 50ft on a putt with lots of different breaks in it. The other was from 20 feet that I completely miss-read and I left 10ft for the comeback putt.

 

I play again on Saturday at a recently renovated course (I’ve never played there before). We’ll see if the hot streak continues!

 

 

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Definitely interested in following along with this review thread. I purchased a Frontline Elevado slant neck from Cleveland immediately on release. I love the look of this line; the all black is very, very sharp. The feel is quite different from the previous generation of Cleveland putters: much firmer.

But so far, I'm struggling a bit with mine. I replace the stock grip with a Flat Cat, and that may have been a mistake. I think the stock grip has some significant heft to it, and the Flat Cat Slim I put on is pretty light. I don't have a swingweight scale, but my guess is that I've adjusted it several points heavier toward the head.

(Obviously, replacing the grip isn't a review of the putter itself.)

Anyway, should be a fun thread to follow!

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Definitely interested in following along with this review thread. I purchased a Frontline Elevado slant neck from Cleveland immediately on release. I love the look of this line; the all black is very, very sharp. The feel is quite different from the previous generation of Cleveland putters: much firmer.
But so far, I'm struggling a bit with mine. I replace the stock grip with a Flat Cat, and that may have been a mistake. I think the stock grip has some significant heft to it, and the Flat Cat Slim I put on is pretty light. I don't have a swingweight scale, but my guess is that I've adjusted it several points heavier toward the head.
(Obviously, replacing the grip isn't a review of the putter itself.)
Anyway, should be a fun thread to follow!


I got the slant neck as well. I love the black and red combo. It matches my irons and driver to a tee. I have New Decade Multi-compound red/black grips. My iron shafts are the black PVD finish KBS $-taper 130 shafts and I’ve got red ferrules and the shaft labels are red. My driver shaft is the HZRDS smoke, so it’s all blacked out as well.

I agree that the feel of the Elevado is very different. The milled face is way clickier than my Ping Sigma 2 insert. I can’t say that I prefer the click of the Cleveland at all over the Ping. I also feel like you can definitely tell if you miss it off the center a bit. Almost feels the opposite of what you’d expect, given the claims of tightening dispersion when you miss the middle.


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I play again on Saturday at a recently renovated course (I’ve never played there before). We’ll see if the hot streak continues!
 
 
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That’s quite a steak indeed!


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That’s quite a steak indeed!


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It was epic!! I’ve never had that many birdies in a row before. And I think six birdies in one round is also an all-time high for me. The Elevado is starting off on a high note!


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Also very interested in following along and hearing all the testers' reactions and on-course experiences!

When I saw the blog review on these, it definitely piqued my interest as I'd tested a Cleveland putter in the recent past and really liked what was their "True Feel" face (but ultimately ended up with an EvnRoll).

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Also very interested in following along and hearing all the testers' reactions and on-course experiences!
When I saw the blog review on these, it definitely piqued my interest as I'd tested a Cleveland putter in the recent past and really liked what was their "True Feel" face (but ultimately ended up with an EvnRoll).


I’ve had two other Cleveland putters before:

1) Cleveland Classic #1
2) Cleveland Smart Square (face-balanced and counter weighted)

I wasn’t too impressed with either of those, so this Cleveland Elevado has some making up to do.


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10 hours ago, GolfSpy MPR said:

Definitely interested in following along with this review thread. I purchased a Frontline Elevado slant neck from Cleveland immediately on release. I love the look of this line; the all black is very, very sharp. The feel is quite different from the previous generation of Cleveland putters: much firmer.

But so far, I'm struggling a bit with mine. I replace the stock grip with a Flat Cat, and that may have been a mistake. I think the stock grip has some significant heft to it, and the Flat Cat Slim I put on is pretty light. I don't have a swingweight scale, but my guess is that I've adjusted it several points heavier toward the head.

(Obviously, replacing the grip isn't a review of the putter itself.)

Anyway, should be a fun thread to follow!

I am no expert club builder, but I think a light grip might not be the best fit on this. I have the slant neck elevado as well, and it is the heaviest putter I've wielded in a while. If the stock grip is a heavier grip, a light grip might really throw the balance off. 

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I am no expert club builder, but I think a light grip might not be the best fit on this. I have the slant neck elevado as well, and it is the heaviest putter I've wielded in a while. If the stock grip is a heavier grip, a light grip might really throw the balance off. 


As far as stock grips go, I really like the Lamkin grip it comes with. There is almost a molded part on the underside for the hands that you can feel. Hard to explain really.


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My first round with this was pretty average. I didn't get many strokes with it before we started, so I was going in blind. My iron/approach didn't do me any favors and I didn't leave myself many putts short enough that I was super disappointed with a two putt. 

The 370g head doesn't sound heavier than many others out there, but it feels heavy. Maybe not a high swing weight, but heavy, balanced and stable. Length and lie also feel like a better fit than my  Cameron.

One dumb thing I did in my first round is I reverted to using a line on the ball for alignment. I have already determined that I putt worse doing that. I had a few putts that went end over end right on my line that just missed. So I hit them well, just can't line it up right with that method. 

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Whelp, the honeymoon birdie-fest of my first round with the Cleveland Frontline Elevado putter came to a crashing train wreck of a halt today. In my second round, I had a whopping 6 three putts and a total of 40 putts on the day. Talk about a complete 180 Batman!?!?

 

I had three putts that very easily could have dropped. One lipped out so slowly it was a wonder it didn’t fall. Two others were down hill putts that stopped 1” or less from going in.

 

I still made quite a few from the 10’-15’ range and 7 feet and in is almost lights out. I didn’t hit many balls inside of 20 feet today, and the lag putts were from 50+ feet quite often.

 

Overall, a very discouraging round of putting today.

 

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I checked the total weight of the Frontline Elevado and it is 597g.  For comparison, my Cameron 5.5M is 557g.  I will have to get the swingweights checked out, but this is one solid stick.

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I like the grip so far.  It is longer than my two most recent grips, so there is some wiggle room if you like a little more or less of the pistol shape in your upper hand. Here it is next to the stock grip on my Cameron.  It's not much longer than this, but the Golf Pride Tour Sensr is 1.5" shorter and feels pretty small compared to the Lamkin.

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The texture has a good grip to it.  Or does the grip have a good texture? 

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The whole top of the grip is flat.  I would rate this as a medium to medium-large grip.  The upper flat section doesn't seem as wide as the Ping PP60 grip, which feels very awkward to me.  Lamkin has this grip listed at 120g.  If you want to swap this out, I recommend to pay attention to the weight of the new grip.  An EVNROLL Gravity grip is also 120g.  Hmmmmm. 🤤

The face is completely new compared to my 2135 Satin Elevado.  The Satin Elevado has a face that I can use if I lose my meat tenderizer.  I had a few issues with that putter that I will get to during this testing, but one was the face.  There was so much material machined off of the sweet spot that this was a very soft feeling face.  I ended up switching to a harder feeling ball to firm up the feel.

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Nice grass stain on the face!  Who else has to clean their spouses clubs for them?  Did I just throw myself under the bus there?

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The Frontline has much less material taken out.  This results in a face that is much firmer.  For me, this is a big win.  YMMV.  I had some friends take some strokes with this, and some preferred the meat tenderizer feel.

I am trying to get putting sessions in each day and am keeping score.  There have been some interesting finds in that testing already.  I will have to do this in many small doses, as I have the back of a 90 year old man.  A few times already I have hit that wall where what I assume is my back just tells me to take a hike and I have no chance of putting a decent stroke on the ball.  I will have to cut myself off before this happens to keep the results honest.  I have also found that it is easier to go from the Cameron to the Frontline than vice versa.  Length/lie may be a better fit on the Frontline. 

I was able to take this out on the course for the second time this afternoon.  Weather could not have been better.  I also got to try out the Arccos sensors for the first time.  I ended up with 38 putts on the day en route to an 82.  I could not get the speed down at all.  We got the feeling that this course is pretty much shut down for the season, but are still allowing people to play.  Bathrooms were closed, ball washers were all down, and it looks like they were painting brown spots green to keep things looking...nice?  I have spent a good amount of time on the BirdieBall green (medium stimp: 10-11).  This course must have been playing at a 7.  And we rushed out to be able to get all 18 in before dark, so I didn't get any warmups beforehand.

My consolation is that Arccos rated me as a 7.2 putting handicap.  I wasn't too happy with my chipping, and Arccos confirmed that by giving me an F+ for a chipping handicap.  I had a few 5-6 footers that I managed to miss, but like last time, I hit them where I was aiming.  There were some phantom breaks or force fields around some of the cups and the ball would just take a hard left or right just before the cup.  With them playing so slow and me having such a hard time putting a 3W swing on the ball, getting the line read right (not a strong point of mine in the first place) was just too much to ask.  But I really appreciate Arccos giving me a green participation ribbon for putting while letting me know that if I can't get the ball within 30ft of the hole, those birdies will continue to escape me.

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While this weather holds up I am going to get out again somewhere that hasn't given up on 2019 already.  I really want to know if it was really that slow today, or if I am setting myself up for failure practicing on a green that is a fair amount faster than anything I am going to be playing on.

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My Elevado with the Lamkin Sink Fit grip is topping out at a total weight of 596g.

My Evnroll ER6 with the Gravity grip is registering at 609g. 

Both are 370g heads. Both have 120g grips. Both are 35" in length. 

Yet if I didn't know any of this beforehand, I'd bet a lot of money I don't have that the Elevado was heavier than the ER6. The Cleveland just feels a lot heavier in your hand and I'm guessing it's related to all the weight being at the front of the putter vs the rear like in the Evnroll. 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but a heavier putter is "generally" better for stability on short range putts at the expense of long range touch.  

I have a touch drill I am trying indoors.  I need to get a putt at least 3 feet, then try to pass each putt with the next one and squeeze in as many as I can before hitting the end of the mat.  So I think my range is 3-11ish feet.  Come up short and I'm out.  I'll send some scores later, but so far I haven't noticed a big difference between the Frontline and my Futura.  Is this range long enough to really tell the difference?

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