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I picked up a Sub70 699 utility and am very happy with it. I love the feel and look. I was thinking about trading my F8's for a set of 699 irons as I can get a more tailored set for my needs without breaking the bank. Just wanted to some feedback before I make a decision.

 

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Driver- Cobra Speedzone 9° default_cobra-small.jpg.bf0039c0fa211a003217e70e184035fa.jpg

Woods- Sub70 Pro 5-Wood   08e84065c69a5a06ed8fec52d91a.jpg.08662cdc8041ba1124fe725b926a5e95.jpg  

Utility- Titleist 718 T-MB 4 Utility  default_titelist-small.jpg.d620943db19c6c6f477d78c3e6dcfb1b.jpg

Irons- Sub70 649 MB Tour 5-PW, 699 Pro 2U  08e84065c69a5a06ed8fec52d91a.jpg.08662cdc8041ba1124fe725b926a5e95.jpg

Wedges- Cleveland Zipcore RTX 52°,56°, 60°  default_cleveland-small.jpg.0615c53919b7f92c3524630e353b33bb.jpg

Putter- Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2 default_cameron-small.gif.dd99234f0267bb38c40c23053034a445.gif

Ball- Titleist ProV1x default_titelist-small.jpg.d620943db19c6c6f477d78c3e6dcfb1b.jpg  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I picked up a Sub70 699 utility and am very happy with it. I love the feel and look. I was thinking about trading my F8's for a set of 699 irons as I can get a more tailored set for my needs without breaking the bank. Just wanted to some feedback before I make a decision.
 
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Call Sub70 and have demos sent to you. I’ve done it twice, and it’s well worth it!!!


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Driver: :cobra-small: King F9 Speedback/:callaway-small:Epic Max LS, Xphlexxx Busa 2 Liquid, XX stiff, 45”

Fwy:  :callaway-small: Epic Speed 4w, MMT 80X

Hybrid: :callaway-small: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105X

Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4-10, :Nippon: Modus 130 stiff, +1”

Wedges: :edel-golf-1: SMS 50D/54V/58D:Nippon:Modus 130 stiff, +1”

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New irons will not give you a magic cure and make you shoot even par every round (unless you already do) or fix a 30 yard slice.   The reason for newer irons is to potentially get more forgiveness and better ball flight;  the improvement will depend on how well your current irons fit you.     I have hit all the Sub 70 iron models (and most of their other clubs) and they are a high quality club that is equal to the big name OEM models you will find in stores.  Sub70 offers great value especially with the available shaft options.  

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :callaway-small: 54-10S   :cleveland-small: 588  58-12
Putter:  :seemore-small: mFGP2

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I know that a new set won't magically cure anything and that's not what I'm looking for. I bought my current set second hand as I was looking for something different. I can't shell the money for a properly fit big name brand and after discussing with Jason at Sub70 I can get what I'm looking.

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Driver- Cobra Speedzone 9° default_cobra-small.jpg.bf0039c0fa211a003217e70e184035fa.jpg

Woods- Sub70 Pro 5-Wood   08e84065c69a5a06ed8fec52d91a.jpg.08662cdc8041ba1124fe725b926a5e95.jpg  

Utility- Titleist 718 T-MB 4 Utility  default_titelist-small.jpg.d620943db19c6c6f477d78c3e6dcfb1b.jpg

Irons- Sub70 649 MB Tour 5-PW, 699 Pro 2U  08e84065c69a5a06ed8fec52d91a.jpg.08662cdc8041ba1124fe725b926a5e95.jpg

Wedges- Cleveland Zipcore RTX 52°,56°, 60°  default_cleveland-small.jpg.0615c53919b7f92c3524630e353b33bb.jpg

Putter- Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2 default_cameron-small.gif.dd99234f0267bb38c40c23053034a445.gif

Ball- Titleist ProV1x default_titelist-small.jpg.d620943db19c6c6f477d78c3e6dcfb1b.jpg  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Jtom2012 said:

I know that a new set won't magically cure anything and that's not what I'm looking for. I bought my current set second hand as I was looking for something different. I can't shell the money for a properly fit big name brand and after discussing with Jason at Sub70 I can get what I'm looking.

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If that is the case,  then Sub70 clubs are a great fit.  From what I have heard Jason does a great job getting people equipment that will work for them,  

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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :callaway-small: 54-10S   :cleveland-small: 588  58-12
Putter:  :seemore-small: mFGP2

Backups:  :bobby-grace-1: 6330, :taylormade-small:TM-180, :odyssey-small: Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787

 

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I got some sub 70 wedges a year or so ago and guess what? They’re still in my bag... and I was a Vokey guy forever

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:callaway-small: MavriK Sub Zero 9* on EvenFlow RipTide 6.0 50g

:cobra-small: Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S

:cobra-small: F8 5/6 wood on Aldila NxT GEN MLT R

:Hogan: Combo iron set -8,9,per Icon 5,6,7 PtxPro 4-UiHi on Recoil 780 ES f4 Stiff shafts (best clubs ever)

:benhogan-small: Equalizer 50°, 54°, 60° wedges on Recoil 780 f4

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I bought from Sub 70 and I am happy with my purchase and Jason was great to work with. If you live close enough go in and they will fit you which I was able to do. I have an open slot in my bag and I’m kind of curious about that 699 utility. I’m just looking for something I can hit about 200 off the tee that won’t hook as much as my hybrid will do. Can you post what you like about the 699.  I’m not going to be able demo one until early next year so I wouldn’t mind hearing your thoughts.

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D- Tour Edge EXS 220

3w- Adams Tight Lies 2 16

Hybrid- Cobra F8 19 degree 

Utility- Sub 70 699 U  21 degree

Irons- Sub 70 739 5-PW

Wedges- Tour Edge CB Pro 50,54,58

Putter- Cleveland Huntington Beach soft # 11

Ball- Titleist Tour Soft

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I'm with @chisag and @cnosil on this one.  If your current irons are a terrible fit, there might be some good gains with a properly fit set.  If your main issues are with the indian and not the arrow, then Sub70 looks like a great option to have some fun with some new irons without breaking the bank.  If you fit well into some of the stock shafts, they are a steal.  Even with some of their more expensive shaft upgrades you are looking at prices below a new set of Hogans and practically half of a similar set of big brand OEMs.

Oh my stars....the 699 Pros are on the website...I might be getting in some serious trouble in 2020...

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:adams-small: Adams XTD Ti 18 deg 3Hy

:benhogan-small: Ben Hogan PTx 22-46 

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699 pro’s.?   I didn’t seem to find those... what are they?

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:callaway-small: MavriK Sub Zero 9* on EvenFlow RipTide 6.0 50g

:cobra-small: Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S

:cobra-small: F8 5/6 wood on Aldila NxT GEN MLT R

:Hogan: Combo iron set -8,9,per Icon 5,6,7 PtxPro 4-UiHi on Recoil 780 ES f4 Stiff shafts (best clubs ever)

:benhogan-small: Equalizer 50°, 54°, 60° wedges on Recoil 780 f4

:edel-golf-1: E.A.S. #4   (“Fang” or “Adele”)
 

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699 pro’s.?   I didn’t seem to find those... what are they?


https://www.golfsub70.com/sub-70-699-pro-irons.html


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Driver:  :ping-small: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven
Fairway: :titelist-small: TS3 15* set  to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke
Hybrids:  :titelist-small: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
                :titelist-small: 915H  21*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
               :titelist-small: 915H 24*  w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype
Irons:      :honma:TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite
Wedge:  :callaway-small: 54-10S   :cleveland-small: 588  58-12
Putter:  :seemore-small: mFGP2

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On ‎11‎/‎30‎/‎2019 at 9:50 AM, Jtom2012 said:

I know that a new set won't magically cure anything and that's not what I'm looking for. I bought my current set second hand as I was looking for something different. I can't shell the money for a properly fit big name brand and after discussing with Jason at Sub70 I can get what I'm looking.

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I'd think you would have something to gain just from being properly fit.  If you love the clubs you might also be tempted to practice more frequently!

I have made big mistakes in the past by changing equipment for change sake and even when I got the stuff for free.  It doesn't sound like you're doing that though.  Go for it and enjoy the new sticks next July when Spring comes to Michigan. 🙂

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Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

Edison Wedges 54 and 59 KBS Tour Graphite 80's

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Tour Exotics 3 wood is in the bag because we are allowed 14 clubs.  It's a great club for pulling balls out of the water or from bushes - you never want to put your hand into anything in Florida unless you are absolutely certain that it's safe.  There are rare wind conditions when I might hit it off the tee on a few holes that I play.  

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4 hours ago, cnosil said:

Thanks cnosil-

very interesting- closer to the i500 it seems? Or p790 because it’s filled?

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:callaway-small: MavriK Sub Zero 9* on EvenFlow RipTide 6.0 50g

:cobra-small: Speedzone 3-wood on Tensi blue S

:cobra-small: F8 5/6 wood on Aldila NxT GEN MLT R

:Hogan: Combo iron set -8,9,per Icon 5,6,7 PtxPro 4-UiHi on Recoil 780 ES f4 Stiff shafts (best clubs ever)

:benhogan-small: Equalizer 50°, 54°, 60° wedges on Recoil 780 f4

:edel-golf-1: E.A.S. #4   (“Fang” or “Adele”)
 

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Ordered a set of the 699's. Should be getting them next week!

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Driver- Cobra Speedzone 9° default_cobra-small.jpg.bf0039c0fa211a003217e70e184035fa.jpg

Woods- Sub70 Pro 5-Wood   08e84065c69a5a06ed8fec52d91a.jpg.08662cdc8041ba1124fe725b926a5e95.jpg  

Utility- Titleist 718 T-MB 4 Utility  default_titelist-small.jpg.d620943db19c6c6f477d78c3e6dcfb1b.jpg

Irons- Sub70 649 MB Tour 5-PW, 699 Pro 2U  08e84065c69a5a06ed8fec52d91a.jpg.08662cdc8041ba1124fe725b926a5e95.jpg

Wedges- Cleveland Zipcore RTX 52°,56°, 60°  default_cleveland-small.jpg.0615c53919b7f92c3524630e353b33bb.jpg

Putter- Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2 default_cameron-small.gif.dd99234f0267bb38c40c23053034a445.gif

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new clubs make a difference if there is a large enough gap in the years you buy them. under 5 years, probably not much of a gain. The real difference is getting  CUSTOM FIT. Irons will change just like drivers. There are countless #'s of shafts that can make 'bad' clubs into great ones. Look up the best golfer fitter you can in a 100mile radius and go to them. Then have them gap the clubs too.

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  • 3 wood: :taylormade-small:  M4 with 60g Atmos red stiff shaft
  • 4-gw irons:  :mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal w/ X-stiff KBS 130gr shafts (soft stepped)
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11 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

new clubs make a difference if there is a large enough gap in the years you buy them. under 5 years, probably not much of a gain. The real difference is getting  CUSTOM FIT. Irons will change just like drivers. There are countless #'s of shafts that can make 'bad' clubs into great ones. Look up the best golfer fitter you can in a 100mile radius and go to them. Then have them gap the clubs too.

 

It made a difference for me, but my irons were ten years old.  They were custom fit by a very good fitter, but technology really does advance in ten years.  I have the F8s, and they're good clubs, but if you weren't fit for them then your F8s are likely not right for you.  Good luck with the 699s and let us know how they are.  Those things are dead sexy, and the 699 pros are making me weak in the knees.

 

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Driver - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Wood (16*) - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Hybrid (19*) - :taylormade-small: RBZ
4i - PW - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )
GW - LW - :cobra-small: F8 - N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour105 ( S )
Putter - :ping-small: Craz-e
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does Sub 70 make LH clubs?? I didn't see any.

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  • 3 wood: :taylormade-small:  M4 with 60g Atmos red stiff shaft
  • 4-gw irons:  :mizuno-small: JPX 921 Hot Metal w/ X-stiff KBS 130gr shafts (soft stepped)
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As a former Titleist PT / DCI 962 player with far two much time on my hands, I often think about what gear would suit me now were I still on the links. 

Looking with interest through all of the published specs, another Titleist iron caught my eye--the new T300.  

Yes, the club number stampings on the sole are ludicrous.  The number / loft correlations are at least two clubs strong.  But that's only stamping, and that's simply the fact of life today anyway. Not a catastrophic problem.

Looking more closely at the T300 specs, I notice that they're different in other ways as well, particular in loft gap increments.  It didn't take much looking to quickly notice that just a few minor and routine tweaks could make the T300 an extremely playable set for seniors.

Take a look if this stuff interests you:

 

 

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On 12/6/2019 at 3:16 PM, Bossfan said:

I bought from Sub 70 and I am happy with my purchase and Jason was great to work with. If you live close enough go in and they will fit you which I was able to do. I have an open slot in my bag and I’m kind of curious about that 699 utility. I’m just looking for something I can hit about 200 off the tee that won’t hook as much as my hybrid will do. Can you post what you like about the 699.  I’m not going to be able demo one until early next year so I wouldn’t mind hearing your thoughts.

Hybrids must be built for slicers because I haven't found one yet that I don't hook into left field damn near every time!

I'm considering a bag set-up with a 4-wood and a "fairway finding" utility iron instead of carrying both a 5 and 3-wood. I'd want my 4-wood to be able to hit and hold a green from 220+ on reachable Par 5s. 

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Driver: :srixon-small: z565 10.5*, Miyazaki Kaula Mizu 6 S-Flex
Fairways:  :callaway-small: X-Hot 15* & 18*, Project X PXv R-Flex
Irons: :benhogan-small:Apex Plus, 4-PW, Apex S4-Flex
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CG10; 50*, 54*, 58*, Dynamic Gold W-flex 

Putter: :odyssey-small: White Hot Pro Blade #2
Grips: Golf Pride MCC-Plus 4 & Lamkin UTx
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10 hours ago, J.B. TexasEx said:

Hybrids must be built for slicers because I haven't found one yet that I don't hook into left field damn near every time!

I feel you here.  But I just happened to find an old 17* Titleist 585 on the Goodwill auction site for $10, and it doesn't hook that much.  I realize this thing is about the same age as my youngest kid (12 years old), but I really like it.  Does Titleist have a reputation for making hybrids that aren't hook machines?

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Driver - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Wood (16*) - :cobra-small: F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S )
3 Hybrid (19*) - :taylormade-small: RBZ
4i - PW - :wilson_staff_small: D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S )
GW - LW - :cobra-small: F8 - N.S. Pro Modus3 Tour105 ( S )
Putter - :ping-small: Craz-e
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