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5 minutes ago, Smellis745 said:

Yes, you just set a box of (dozen size) golf balls about 3-4” from the ball, with the ball centered in the box opposite the camera.  Record a slow motion, face on swing video and upload it through their portal and wait.  They say response time is 1-3 business days, but most of us had our response within 1 day, unless you did it over the weekend. It helps if you trim the video down just because of the upload speed.

Thank you for the tips, I'm going to give this a try this week! Enjoy the testing

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UPDATE as to my Chipping Test (from last Saturday, as seen on pg 6 of thread for reference.)

**As said previously, 54 degree wedge, I wanted to get a larger data sample, so performed the same chipping process greenside again today. Again trying to land the ball around a 15 yd carry mark that resulted in balls rolling out to around 20yd in total. This update now representing a total sample size of 39 chip shots for each ball (78 collectively). The larger sample size did help close the average spin gap to some degree, but still not yet allowed the Bridgestone Tour BX yet to overtake in average spin, but getting closer to "minimal" difference. I think nearly 40 with each will conclude this portion of my chipping tests.

Srixon Z-Star XV- Average spin of 7172, High of 8300, Low of 5390. Of those 39 chips, 22 of those all being in the 7400-7500 each. (*Note, all subject to strike but looking for any trends). Average carry distance measured at 15.30 yds

Bridgestone Tour BX- Average spin of 7076, High of 8700, Low of 5514. Of those 39 chips, 19 of those all being in the 7400-7500 each. (*Note, all subject to strike but looking for any trends). Average carry distance measured at 15.02 yds

40 YARD PITCH SHOTS (58 degree wedge)

*Very limited sample size here today so I'd say take these with a grain of salt, only 12 shots with each ball.

Srixon Z-Star XV- Average Carry 37.16 yards, Average spin of 7484 rpm, High of 10,005, Low of 5840. (*Note, all subject to strike but looking for any trends).

Bridgestone Tour BX- Average Carry 38.75 yards, Average spin of 7207 rpm, High of 9664, Low of 5931. (*Note, all subject to strike but looking for any trends).

 

Overall, in chipping and pitching it is in my observation difficult or impossible for me to discern one of these balls from the other. Feels and performance (and expectations). Things may change when I move on to full shots and direct numbers comparisons there........but as of playing 18 holes yesterday with the Tour BX I'd say if you told me I was still playing my Srixon XV I'd say "yup," b/c it just seemed to fall right in to where and what I would ask/expect. But thats "observational" only, I'd like to back with data

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21 hours ago, GSwag said:

Played 36 holes over 2 days with the B RXS and the ball held up really well.  At this point I can't tell the difference between this ball and the Srixon Z Star, but who knows at this point.

No difference on wedge shots into the green, say 100 yards out?


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Just now, Miboy62 said:

No difference on wedge shots into the green, say 100 yards out?

With 54 holes in, it's still very early in the evaluation, but I did hit a handful of choke down lob wedge shots from < 80 yards, and got some unwanted backspin on them.  As in, I hit them onto the front of the green, and the ball spun back into the fairway.  I was playing a provisional on one par 3 towards the end of the day today, from the drop zone, and had about 75 yards into the pin, and hit my lob wedge into what I thought was a good shot on the green, and watched the ball spin back off of the front of the green, down into the ravine never to be seen again.

But honestly, beyond these lob wedge shots, where I know I am producing serious backspin with my 58 degree Vokey wedge the rest of the overall shots all look the same to me, both in distance and launch angle, etc.  I'd say the cost is the differentiator between the Srixon Z Star and this ball, but I can typically find the Srixon for $29.99 or less, and this Bridgestone ball apparently retails for $29.99.

I'm gonna keep playing them and keep testing them, and we'll see where we are in a few weeks.

Side note on conditions.  Yesterday's round was played in overcast skies around 60 degrees with a healthy 20 mph wind and it had rained prior to the round, so it was a bit wet.  Today's round was a brisk 45 degrees with sunshine, and that same 20 mph wind.  Honestly, I can't remember the last time I played a round of golf without a 20+ mph wind blowing on me constantly.  I'm so used to wind at this point that I won't know what to do if I ever get a calm day for golf again.  I'll be shaping shots, expecting the wind to take it and there will be no wind to take it and screw me up.  🙃

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Quick trip to a 34° chipping green... didn’t make it very long, I’m guessing about 20-30mph winds. Hit a few from about 60 yards before the frost nip set in. It is looking like Bridgestone did their research, at least in the around the green department.

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Got out for 18 today and my first round with these Tour B X. I wouldn't call myself a high ball hitter, or a high spin player, but stopping these isn't looking like a problem. Greens were pretty hard today, but the ball doesn't stop much further than my pitch marks. It'll be good to get out on course that I play frequently to get a better idea of the B X overall.

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The picture above was a 50* from 109 to a slightly elevated green. I would've expected my V1x to stop maybe half of that distance, but it's not the end of the world, and actually put me closer, lol.

Ball definitely looks longer for me on drives, both well-struck and misses, but that was common for me on the 2018 model.

I still think the V1x spins and checks up more on chips, but I'll have to get in more time before I can say that with any conviction.

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Looks like all the marketing "guff" just dropped this morning in conjunction with the start of the PGA Merchandise show.........so much for blind testing 🙂

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Looks like everyone can go get their own "protos" on February 14th 🙂

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1 hour ago, Trial&Error said:

Looks like all the marketing "guff" just dropped this morning in conjunction with the start of the PGA Merchandise show.........so much for blind testing 🙂

They waited a while to get these out to us.  I'm itching to get on the course and see if the launch monitor data translates to real world performance.  I'll refrain from reading any of it so I can still keep an unbiased opinion on the course.

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Rough round for me yesterday, but I noticed a few positives with the new Tour B X. The best shot was on a par 3 with a 7i, which hit the green at around 20' from the pin and hopped and stopped at 27'. Distance-wise, it seemed to on par with the Pro V1x and previous Tour B X, and I'm hoping to get on a simulator at some point later on. I didn't have any short game shots worth talking about, and I feel like the new Tour B X feels a bit more firm off the putter, but we all know how subjective feel is. Overall durability was impressive given the erratic golf I was playing. When I get back from MD I'm planning on getting out to a short game area for more testing so I'll post some more thoughts then. 

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I started out, yesterday,  simply hitting these balls on an indoor putting surface.  Different sound and feel than the e12 I usually play. And, that is all I wanted to do.  I will start with my short game and chipping, a major need to take my game up to another level. I have usually good technique in terms of the swing, though I often have runners on the green. I can hit a fairly lovely looking "Phil lob" that will not fully bite.

So my plan is for the following:

1: Chipping and short game. With a top tracker.

2. Drives, starting with some indoor top tracker work to set some aspects in my mind.  The next time at this range, I will check irons and hybrids.

3. 2--4 full rounds (18 holes) wit notes and some video.

Then, I will rinse and repeat with an eye to show much I have adjusted to the ball and if those adjustments indicate a change of ball  for me.

If you have specific questions, suggestions, and/or criticisms, drop me a note.  I am in particular interested in those that come from older golfers.

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Good morning fellas,

If you're reading this....you know this "test" got off to a late start. Had a chance to get out for a bit last weekend to perform some of my own "non-scientific" test comparisons. First, my prototype ball was stated by Bridgestones VFIT technology (see link below). FYI - had a couple buddies submit videos and their results, like mine, were pretty spot on and impressive. regardless outcome of the prototype ball.

So......what do you guys want to know about this ball? What type of shots do you want to see? Is there a certain ball you'd like to see this compared to? I'll do my best!

Video fitting: VFit https://www.bridgestonegolf.com/en-us/find-my-ball/video-get-fit

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I've tested and played several balls over the past few years. Such as, Snell Black, Titleist Pro V1X, TM TP5, Callaway and am currently gaming the new Titleist AVX (which I love).

Initial impressions were very good with this ball. As stated by other testers, it feels "tackier" than other balls I've handled. No visible blemishes whatsoever and markings were perfect. I spent an hour or so testing the ball on the chipping green and putting green. All comparisons were made against my current ball, Titleist AVX. 

I did play 9 holes with the Tour BX against the AVS (more on this in my final review). Had an unusually windy day for NE Florida. First few drives with the Tour BX indicated that it is a very "spinney" ball, which is NOT a good thing for me, as I typically launch ball on the higher end of the spectrum and never had a problem stopping balls on greens. The Titleist AVS was a few yards longer on most driver holes...but, not by much.

Test Clubs:

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Chip Shots: (tight bermuda lies)

Ball felt very good coming off of my 54 Jaws wedge. Soft, yet powerful and in control. Personally, I don't like hard or clicky feeling balls (Srixon, Snell MTB X). I noticed very quickly that the Tour BX spun and stopped quicker than my Titleist AVX balls. Still on the fence as to whether or not this is a good thing!?! I typically like to hit pitches that run out about the same distance it flies. 

Chipping Videos: (2nd video - made 3 out of 6 chips)

Putting: (Made 4 out of 6 putts @ 20')

Putting.....well, short of putting with a Pinnacle distance vs ProV1....what's there to test? Seriously? The putter is not traveling fast enough or compressing the ball enough to truly prefer one ball over the next. For me, I want a ball that provides the sound I'm looking for, that will start on my line and not "launch" off my putter head like a rocket. With that said, the Tour BX felt very good. Softer feel and very responsive.

 

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9 hours ago, yungkory said:

Got out for 18 today and my first round with these Tour B X. I wouldn't call myself a high ball hitter, or a high spin player, but stopping these isn't looking like a problem. Greens were pretty hard today, but the ball doesn't stop much further than my pitch marks. It'll be good to get out on course that I play frequently to get a better idea of the B X overall.

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The picture above was a 50* from 109 to a slightly elevated green. I would've expected my V1x to stop maybe half of that distance, but it's not the end of the world, and actually put me closer, lol.

Ball definitely looks longer for me on drives, both well-struck and misses, but that was common for me on the 2018 model.

I still think the V1x spins and checks up more on chips, but I'll have to get in more time before I can say that with any conviction.

I need a super in depth comparison of these two balls. Pressure is on...

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Bridgestone Tour BX Prototype First Impressions

Sorry fellas - I did this a bit backasswards....but, here's Stage 1 - First Impressions

Hello everyone and thank you Bridgestone and MyGolfSpy for selecting me to test the new Tour BX golf balls.

Really loved the look and feel of this ball right out of the box. It's hard to explain, but it just looks and feels good and expensive!

I was born and raised in Tulsa, OK and moved to NE Florida in August of 2017. I live and play golf in Ponte Vedra Beach, FL, just a short drive from TPC Sawgrass. I turn 50 years old this July and will finally be eligible for the Champions Tour (just kidding…but, can qualify for some of the old man tourneys at my local club).

Picked up my first golf clubs (garage sale Ping knockoffs) at 19 years old and instantly fell in love with the game. Can’t really put a finger on why I instantly fell in love with the game, as I was the only member of my family who plays. I’ve always been drawn to a challenge, so I guess that’s it….because who really conquers this crazy game called golf? Well….Tiger and Jack!?! Maybe.

After 22 years being self employed, I’m finally at a stage of life where I get to play a couple times per week and practice a lot. Took a few years off golf dealing with and ultimately healing from a complete replacement of my right hip. Prior to the surgery, I was playing to a 7 handicap. Post surgery and 3 years later, I started my 2019 season as a 13 handicap. My current handicap is 5.8 on a tight private golf course in the middle of a marsh. Finding fairways and greens is at a premium here!

My strengths are short game and iron play. As my golfing buddies would say, “he chips and putts like a scratch golfer”. On those rare days when the golf gods are smiling down upon me and tempo is right, I can play really good golf.

Don’t know why, but I’ve always hit all my clubs fairly long and high (7 iron averages 173 yards). I need a golf ball with a penetrating flight, low spin, that is responsive and feels good.

Most of my misses occur off my Driver and gap wedges, where I have the tendency to get the club stuck behind me a bit, which results in a block or pushed ball that flies very straight but right of my target line.

If this ball can carry as long or longer than my current gamer (Titleist AVX), spins low off the driver and finds more fairways, it will definitely find it’s way into my bag!

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Today, chipping into a backyard net at about 40' away. A very nice feel off my Ping wedges (Glide 3.0, Graphite,  50º, 56º, and 60º);  felt solid and sure.  Again, sounds different, but that is  ok. As my landing area is NOT a green cut chunk of grass, I am not ready to make pronouncements on bite.  Was easy to get a nice high Phil Lob and it looked as if there was enough spin to get it done. I seemed to be quite able to play around with height with my 50º.  Can't wait to get the to the indoor top tracker on Thursday

Cover has a nice feel off of the clubs  So far, nothing I am doing has really gone beyond first look and try arenas.  Tomorrow, after work, I will do my first real specific look at sand traps and these items.

Note:  While I will do quite a bit of Top Tracker recording as part of this exercise, as a golfer, I am not sure I think a lot about numbers when I play, so you may read more from me in terms of feel, sound, and looks, and results in my score.  This is the result of playing a much softer e12 and noting the difference to me. So far, I like what I see and feel, even though my very top club speeds are lower than optimum for an RX.

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59 minutes ago, THEZIPR23 said:

I need a super in depth comparison of these two balls. Pressure is on...

Well, there's a ton of marketing data available as of this morning so... Pressure is off, LOL!

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Got out yesterday for nine holes in the SoCal sun. Perfect conditions. I love where I live!

Off the tee was tough to discern, but as one of my golfers put it, my swing was garbage. What was not garbage, however, were my shots into the green. Totally salvaged my round for me. As I noted in the previous segment, the ball just feels right coming off the club face. I was able to be very aggressive at pins, because the ball definitely checks up well. I did have a couple spin back quite a bit, but I expect that when I take a full swing with a 55* wedge. The ball is just incredibly responsive. 

I am set to play another nine tomorrow, really hoping the long game isn’t garbage so I can test out distance off the driver. 

I was disappointed to see the price will be right there next to prov1. I was hoping for a bit lower, it would make this a winner for me. The price might be enough to keep me away, though with 36 fresh balls from Bridgestone I won’t need new ones for awhile!

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2 hours ago, jddaigneault said:

Got out yesterday for nine holes in the SoCal sun. Perfect conditions. I love where I live!

Off the tee was tough to discern, but as one of my golfers put it, my swing was garbage. What was not garbage, however, were my shots into the green. Totally salvaged my round for me. As I noted in the previous segment, the ball just feels right coming off the club face. I was able to be very aggressive at pins, because the ball definitely checks up well. I did have a couple spin back quite a bit, but I expect that when I take a full swing with a 55* wedge. The ball is just incredibly responsive. 

I am set to play another nine tomorrow, really hoping the long game isn’t garbage so I can test out distance off the driver. 

I was disappointed to see the price will be right there next to prov1. I was hoping for a bit lower, it would make this a winner for me. The price might be enough to keep me away, though with 36 fresh balls from Bridgestone I won’t need new ones for awhile!

If I walk away from this test thinking that the BX is absolutely a better ball for me, I will switch, but I agree with you on the price point. I believe they could probably win the #2 spot in terms of market share with a better price, but not sure about what kind of margins they're operating on selling at $44.99. While $6/dozen isn't huge, if these were $38.99/doz it would make switching from V1x the tiebreaker if it came down to it.

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Weather pattern in Houston is rain, rain, and more rain. But tomorrow it is supposed to clear out. This will be my first shot at working with the Tour B RXS ball. It will be cart path only and the practice facilities will be closed but I'm looking forward to playing regardless. I'll give a short report after my round.

Envious of that SoCal weather this week    jddaigneault 

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Tested :bridgestone-small: Prototype Balls       Tour B RXS                Tested:image.png.8e77a45b1fe8c9cfb7c2a61386f855a5.pngBlack Cat irons 5 - PW UST Mamiya Recoil Graphite Regular +0.5" 1* upright                         

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