pulledabill Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Cut my driver down 1.5" to about 43 5/8" Hoping to find center of face more often and put this club back in my bag. See if this helps while I get my tee box game back in order. Tarheelvolvo 1 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFanBoi Scotty Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 Did you increase the weight of the head at all? Quote LTDx LS 9*D, HZRDUS Green HC 60g 6.0, 45" 4g + 12g weight King LTD @ 14.5* HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 42.5" King LTD @ 17.5*, HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 40.5"/ 2022 Utility Iron 2 @ 17*, Ventus Black 10x, 39.25" 2022 Utility Iron 4 OL @ 20* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" EQ1-NX OL 5i-PW Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" Cobra SBOL 48*, 52*, 56* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" C-Series DW Armlock Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Green Sheep Productions said: Did you increase the weight of the head at all? for what reason? Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, perseveringgolfer said: for what reason? Swingweight. Cutting 1.5" off a driver could reduce club swingweight by like 9 points. So if you started in the D2-D4 range, you'd be in the low-mid C range. The biggest concern would be that you would lose feeling of where the club head is in the swing at the lighter swingweight. bens197, Tarheelvolvo and seancgmartin 3 Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Green Sheep Productions said: Did you increase the weight of the head at all? I did not because I wanted to see how it felt with a lighter SW. I believe it was a D5 (forgot ro check it b4 I cut) and It ended up at C6. Played 9 tonight with it. Played 2 balls with it on 4 holes in 50 degree and dropping temp. First ball found fairway dead center but shorter than normal. My first reaction was it was way too light. Actually felt like the head flew off it was so light. 2nd ball was right side fairway and within a yard or two distance wise. As i played more I got more used to it but SW does need increased. My dispersion greatly improved but distance was noticably shorter. How much? Not sure as I have not played this club since summer. Bunkers I normally carry on #2 I fell short 10 yards. I was also tentative. By #5 and then on #9 I had it dialed pretty well and was comfortable with it. Cold and no roll is not a good indicator. I will pull the head and go to D2. Not sure why D2 though? MattF, sirchunksalot and edingc 3 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edingc Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 hours ago, pulledabill said: I will pull the head and go to D2. Not sure why D2 though? Do you have a means to adjust the weight in increments back up to D2 or so? There's certainly nothing wrong with playing a lighter swing weighted club (junior and women's clubs are often in the upper C range, I believe), it's just typically there is a trade off with head feel. Quote Unofficial WHS Handicap: 7.5 / Anti-Cap: 13.0 (Last Updated Feb. 19, 2024) Driver: Callaway Paradym TD (10.5°, -1/N), 45.75", Fujikura Motore X F1 6X | Fitting Post 3 Wood: Cobra RadSpeed Big Tour (14.5°), 43", Fujikura Motore X F1 7X 20° Hybrid: PXG 0211 (2020 Model), 40.25", Mitsubishi Tensei AV RAW White 90X 4 Utility: Cobra KING Utility (2020 Model), 38.5", Aerotech SteelFiber i110cw Stiff 5-PW: Ben Hogan PTx Pro, 37" 7 Iron, Aerotech SteelFiber i125cw Stiff | Club Champion Fitting 50°, 54°, 58°: Edel SMS, V Grind, Nippon Modus 125 Wedge| Official Review Thread Putter: L.A.B. Golf DF 2.1, 36", 68°, Black with Custom Sightlines, BGT Stability Tour, L.A.B. Press II 3° | Unofficial Review Grips: Star Sidewinder, Undersized with Custom Tape Build-Up Ball: Snell MTB-X Optic Yellow Tracked By: Shot Scope H4 Bag: Personalized 2020 Sun Mountain Sync Riding On: Bag Boy Nitron | Official Review Thread WITB? | 2022 Reviewer Edel SMS Wedges | 2021 Reviewer Maxfli Tour and Tour X Balls | 2020 Participant #CobraConnect Challenge | 2019 Reviewer Callaway Epic Flash Driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, edingc said: Do you have a means to adjust the weight in increments back up to D2 or so? There's certainly nothing wrong with playing a lighter swing weighted club (junior and women's clubs are often in the upper C range, I believe), it's just typically there is a trade off with head feel. It is way too light. I will probably dial it into my liking with lead tape before I pull the head and insert a shaft weight. MattF 1 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy MPR Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Working on an experiment with this right now. I'm going to be building up a shorter shaft for my Rogue, so I went to eBay and ordered some Chinese knock-off weight screws. (I view these as pretty low risk; if they fit and they have weight, I'm good.) I don't have a swingweight scale, but I'm planning to use something like this website to give me an approximation based on the overall weight and the balance point. Rickp, bens197 and cnosil 3 Quote TS3 9.5°, Tensei Blue CBX T3 15°, Project X HZRDUS Black Epic Super Hybrid 18°, Aerotech Steel Fiber FC HYB S C722 21°, Ventus Blue 8S CBX Iron-Wood 25°, Project X HZRDUS Black 6.0 639 CB, Aldila NV 95 Graphite, 6–PW CBX 48° T22 54° and 60° EAS 4.0, Garsen G-Pro grip TP5x and Tour Response Full WITB with pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 ... Welcome to the club fellas! I hope you guys stick with this for a good amount of time and as I am sure you know, you should be hitting the center more often. Hitting the center trumps 1.5" extra inches in shaft length every time. For every 1/4" you miss the center you lose 5-7yds, so a typical 1" toward the toe miss can lose 20-28 yds and poor directional control!!! I am a huge believer in shorter shaft length and finding the right head weight is a big part of the puzzle, so keep experimenting til you find what works best. I have found D0-D2 produces the best results for the widest range of players, but going heavier D2-D5 has also helped some. Good luck and keep us posted. NRJyzr, MattF, Rickp and 5 others 8 Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, chisag said: ... Welcome to the club fellas! I hope you guys stick with this for a good amount of time and as I am sure you know, you should be hitting the center more often. Hitting the center trumps 1.5" extra inches in shaft length every time. For every 1/4" you miss the center you lose 5-7yds, so a typical 1" toward the toe miss can lose 20-28 yds and poor directional control!!! I am a huge believer in shorter shaft length and finding the right head weight is a big part of the puzzle, so keep experimenting til you find what works best. I have found D0-D2 produces the best results for the widest range of players, but going heavier D2-D5 has also helped some. Good luck and keep us posted. Ive already seen better results. I will get the 3w out with it next time and see the distance variation between the two. Rickp 1 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the great spinks Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 12/17/2019 at 12:24 PM, chisag said: ... Welcome to the club fellas! I hope you guys stick with this for a good amount of time and as I am sure you know, you should be hitting the center more often. Hitting the center trumps 1.5" extra inches in shaft length every time. For every 1/4" you miss the center you lose 5-7yds, so a typical 1" toward the toe miss can lose 20-28 yds and poor directional control!!! I am a huge believer in shorter shaft length and finding the right head weight is a big part of the puzzle, so keep experimenting til you find what works best. I have found D0-D2 produces the best results for the widest range of players, but going heavier D2-D5 has also helped some. Good luck and keep us posted. If I was to have an inch cut off of my F9, could I just order additional heavier weights from Cobra to replace the lighter ones with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 19 minutes ago, the great spinks said: If I was to have an inch cut off of my F9, could I just order additional heavier weights from Cobra to replace the lighter ones with? ... Yup. That is what I did with mine. Quote Driver: Qi10 10.5* ... Ventus Red Velocore 5R Fairway: Aerojet 3/5 ... Kai'li Blue 60R Hybrids: 430 Hybrid 22*... Steelfiber 780Hy DHy #4 ... Diamana LTD 65r Irons: '23 T200 5-Pw ... Steelfiber i95r Wedges: Vokey 50*/54*/58* ... Steelfiber i95r Putter: Sport-60 33" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the great spinks Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, chisag said: ... Yup. That is what I did with mine. Thank you sir, you're a scholar and a gentleman. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Time to dive into this and figure out what weights should go in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted December 20, 2019 Author Share Posted December 20, 2019 Added lead tape and brought SW to D1.Hit a few tonight and certainly felt the difference. Headed back tomorrow with it at a D4 to feel that. cnosil and Rickp 2 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 Played driver on the course yesterday. Hit 69% of the fairways which is high for me especially if I was hitting the driver all the time especially since I played driver on 3 holes I don't normally play the driver. Confidence is high. Rickp, tony@CIC, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, pulledabill said: Played driver on the course yesterday. Hit 69% of the fairways which is high for me especially if I was hitting the driver all the time especially since I played driver on 3 holes I don't normally play the driver. Confidence is high. Better contact with same or more distance? Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 41 minutes ago, cnosil said: Better contact with same or more distance? Better contact with improved accuracy. Tough call on distance as it was windy and soggy so little to no roll. Average distance over say 10 drives was higher as I found the screws way more often so the mishits were minimal if any loss of distance. I will say on one hole I normally carry the bunkers. Yesterday I hit dead center between the bunkers and that would be about 10-15 yards of carry. Verdict will be out until spring or summer on overall distance. cnosil, MattF, tony@CIC and 1 other 4 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 7 hours ago, pulledabill said: Better contact with improved accuracy. Tough call on distance as it was windy and soggy so little to no roll. Average distance over say 10 drives was higher as I found the screws way more often so the mishits were minimal if any loss of distance. I will say on one hole I normally carry the bunkers. Yesterday I hit dead center between the bunkers and that would be about 10-15 yards of carry. Verdict will be out until spring or summer on overall distance. Keep thinking about triming one of my driver shaft down to see how it works. HardcoreLooper, MattF and tony@CIC 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 48 minutes ago, cnosil said: Keep thinking about triming one of my driver shaft down to see how it works. Ive never loved the shaft in it so if it ended up being a fail it wouldnt bother me. tony@CIC and MattF 2 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 Before shortening the driver why not just choke down on it to see what the results would be. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Rickp 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, tony@CIC said: Before shortening the driver why not just choke down on it to see what the results would be. Mental thing, can't remember to do it over the course of a round. tony@CIC and MattF 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 hours ago, cnosil said: Mental thing, can't remember to do it over the course of a round. in a non comp round, just put a thin elastic band on the grip an inch down the shaft- result Rickp, cnosil, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 9 hours ago, cnosil said: Mental thing, can't remember to do it over the course of a round. I wasn't thinking of playing that way - just trying it to see the effect on your drives before cutting it down.. Before the fitter got me in a shortened driver, I tried choking down on the range and recorded distance and ball flight (also used impact tape). FYI the fitter only had it cut down 1/2 inch but it made a big difference. If you really want to see someone choking down on a driver - watch Brooke Henderson - she has her hands about halfway down the driver. HardcoreLooper 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 2 hours ago, tony@CIC said: I wasn't thinking of playing that way - just trying it to see the effect on your drives before cutting it down.. Before the fitter got me in a shortened driver, I tried choking down on the range and recorded distance and ball flight (also used impact tape). FYI the fitter only had it cut down 1/2 inch but it made a big difference. If you really want to see someone choking down on a driver - watch Brooke Henderson - she has her hands about halfway down the driver. I have seen Brooke Henderson, was her walking scorer a few years ago at an LPGA event. For me, distance is almost impossible to check on the range. I know you can see things, but for me it is hard to tell actual landing spot that far out. I will try @perseveringgolfer suggestion as I didn't think of doing that and try to visit MGS and use the GC Quad. MattF 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulledabill Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 14 hours ago, tony@CIC said: Before shortening the driver why not just choke down on it to see what the results would be. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy I did that with mine especially when struggling to find a fairway with it. I will say that there is a feel difference in my opinion from the cut down version compared to the choked down version. cnosil and MattF 2 Quote DRIVER: Cobra F9 10.5 Tensei AV Blue 65g 3W- Callway XR PRO 16 stiff 5W- Alpha- Mitsubishi Diamana Redboard w/band Irons- Mizuno JPX 919 Tours with S KBS Tour shafts Hyrbid- TM 4h mid-rescue Vokey- Vokey SM5 51 degrees, SM7 Wedges 54 and 58 1/2 half 3 degrees upright Putter- Taylor Made Rossa Monza Mini Spider Ball-ProV1 and AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFanBoi Scotty Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I've grabbed an old shaft (Aldila Phenom) and cut it short, and put a tungsten counterweight in, and increased the head weight some more (Already rocking a 16g weight and a 25g in the back). Just tape at this stage. MattF 1 Quote LTDx LS 9*D, HZRDUS Green HC 60g 6.0, 45" 4g + 12g weight King LTD @ 14.5* HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 42.5" King LTD @ 17.5*, HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 40.5"/ 2022 Utility Iron 2 @ 17*, Ventus Black 10x, 39.25" 2022 Utility Iron 4 OL @ 20* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" EQ1-NX OL 5i-PW Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" Cobra SBOL 48*, 52*, 56* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" C-Series DW Armlock Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 I've grabbed an old shaft (Aldila Phenom) and cut it short, and put a tungsten counterweight in, and increased the head weight some more (Already rocking a 16g weight and a 25g in the back). Just tape at this stage. This may not be the thread for this question but......does weight affect swing speed? Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, tony@CIC said: This may not be the thread for this question but......does weight affect swing speed? Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy Yes. think of the superspeed sticks. You can swing the lighter sticks faster than the heavier sticks. But there is a tradeoff between speed and mass. If you lower the mass too much, you lose distance just like if you lower your speed. It is all that physics stuff that I don't remember Rickp, MattF, Kenny B and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: TM-180 Testing: Backups: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADFanBoi Scotty Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, cnosil said: Yes. think of the superspeed sticks. You can swing the lighter sticks faster than the heavier sticks. But there is a tradeoff between speed and mass. If you lower the mass too much, you lose distance just like if you lower your speed. It is all that physics stuff that I don't remember Two ways to view it... One is a momentum collision, where mass and velocity are as good as each other (And the low mass of the golf ball means it goes off), ie total momentum before has to be the same after. [p=mv] The other way is kinetic energy, where the velocity is more important to keep up (m vs v^2). That energy transfers to the ball. [E=0.5mv^2]. So in both you can increase mass to hit it further, but can't be at the expense of velocity, but could be more effect to work on speed instead. But then you get the odd person like me who can muscle, but not do it quickly. cnosil and MattF 2 Quote LTDx LS 9*D, HZRDUS Green HC 60g 6.0, 45" 4g + 12g weight King LTD @ 14.5* HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 42.5" King LTD @ 17.5*, HZRDUS Blue 70g 6.0, 40.5"/ 2022 Utility Iron 2 @ 17*, Ventus Black 10x, 39.25" 2022 Utility Iron 4 OL @ 20* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" EQ1-NX OL 5i-PW Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" Cobra SBOL 48*, 52*, 56* Fujikura Pro Iron 115TX 36" C-Series DW Armlock Vice Pro Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Green Sheep Productions said: Two ways to view it... One is a momentum collision, where mass and velocity are as good as each other (And the low mass of the golf ball means it goes off), ie total momentum before has to be the same after. [p=mv] The other way is kinetic energy, where the velocity is more important to keep up (m vs v^2). That energy transfers to the ball. [E=0.5mv^2]. Thank - that's as clear as mud . Seriously though I think I get it. Rickp 1 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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