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I realized something really critical today that is especially prevalent with my driver swing. My left palm tends to come off of the grip at the top of the swing and then I regrip on the downswing. That is causing the face to open more than it should on the downswing and then from there usually comes the snap hook. 

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Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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On 5/26/2020 at 1:30 PM, dlow206 said:

I realized something really critical today that is especially prevalent with my driver swing. My left palm tends to come off of the grip at the top of the swing and then I regrip on the downswing. That is causing the face to open more than it should on the downswing and then from there usually comes the snap hook. 

If it is opening, how is it hooking? 

 

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22 minutes ago, edteergolf said:

If it is opening, how is it hooking? 

 

Last second flip right before impact to attempt to close the face, combined with an inside swing path.


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Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Already posted about it in the "How did you play" thread, but shot a 44 on the back 9 today at my home course. My driver went from a liability to a weapon, just by changing to an undersize grip and holding the club properly and more firmly in my left hand. Snap hook issue was cured, only 1 total snap hook on 18 holes. It feels good that to hit a driver well, i didn't even have to make a swing change, just needed to hold the club more firmly.

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Already posted about it in the "How did you play" thread, but shot a 44 on the back 9 today at my home course. My driver went from a liability to a weapon, just by changing to an undersize grip and holding the club properly and more firmly in my left hand. Snap hook issue was cured, only 1 total snap hook on 18 holes. It feels good that to hit a driver well, i didn't even have to make a swing change, just needed to hold the club more firmly.

Congrats on the 44!


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I officially have a handicap for the first time in my life, 23.2

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Broke 100 today, shot 99 from the blue tees. Played the round with no snap hooks off the tee, which was a big improvement. Started off the round with missing with a push fade off the tee. Only needed to make a slight adjustment of moving the ball slightly more toward my left heel, that fixed it. 

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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What helped me most with my short game was not only lots of practice but using those Flat Balls they sell at Dicks Sporting goods, really forces you to hit the ball clean,

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Fairway Wood:   :ping-small: G30 Stiff Shaft

Hybrid:   :titelist-small: TS2 19* Hzrdus Smoke Black Stiff shaft

Irons:     :titelist-small: 718 AP1 (4-PW) AMT Red Stiff Shafts 

Wedges:  :cleveland-small: RTX4 52* 56*

Putter:   :cameron-small: Scotty Cameron Golo 5

Right Handed 

Pittsburgh, PA

 

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On a side note, I have started to get addicted to the Golf WOD workout programs. It is like crossfit for golf. I do not agree with all crossfit principles, so I have made some modifications to the program, but they are a great workout. Good combination of power, strength, and conditioning. 

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Getting much closer to shooting in the 90s regularly. Had a couple of rounds recently in the high 90s. My driver game is coming together, and this Ventus Red Velocore shaft I picked up seems to be a game changer based on my one round out with it.

Need to figure out my iron game now. I used to be decent with my short irons, but its been a bit iffy lately. 100 yards out from the middle of the fairway should be one of the easiest shots possible, but I always find a way to make it hard.

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Do you have the ability to go on a launch monitor or simulator and hit 10-20 shots with each club in your bag? This is a valuable exercise to determine on average:
- carry vs roll out with each club for club selection on approaches and par 3s
- which side of your aim line does the ball land more often (and therefore where to aim on the course)
   - As someone who "fades" the ball I assumed my shot pattern would be biased to the right of where I am. But it turns out I either hit a straight pull or a pull that fades back toward center on average... So aiming to the right of target is better for my approaches. It is nearly impossible for me to hit a wedge to the right of where I aim, there is always some degree of pull. 
- side to side dispersion for each club (to know what hazards and OB are in play each hole)


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19 minutes ago, BMart519 said:

Do you have the ability to go on a launch monitor or simulator and hit 10-20 shots with each club in your bag? This is a valuable exercise to determine on average:
- carry vs roll out with each club for club selection on approaches and par 3s
- which side of your aim line does the ball land more often (and therefore where to aim on the course)
   - As someone who "fades" the ball I assumed my shot pattern would be biased to the right of where I am. But it turns out I either hit a straight pull or a pull that fades back toward center on average... So aiming to the right of target is better for my approaches. It is nearly impossible for me to hit a wedge to the right of where I aim, there is always some degree of pull. 
- side to side dispersion for each club (to know what hazards and OB are in play each hole)

Yeah, things have opened up a bit more in my area, so I can get on an outdoor Trackman with grass some time in the near future. Right now, my biggest issue is the chunked short iron. The ball thats in a really good lie in the middle of the fairway, thats when the chunky shots happen lol.

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Thanks for sharing pal, currently trying to consistently shoot in the 90s (personal best is 87) so I'll be on a similar journey as you. Will be really interesting to see how you progress. Best of luck!

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My driver is starting to really come around. I'm finding the fairway on most holes off the tee unless I try to swing out of my shoes. Even when I try to swing out of my shoes, often times it works out okay, but other times I will pull it or sky it. I am also reaching parts of the course that I have never reached before.

My current problem is wasting strokes on approach shots. Often times, I will have between 115 to 130 left after my tee shot on the shorter par 4s. Should be an easy approach shot from the fairway, but then I find a way to chunk it and the ball only goes 50 yards. I believe the problem I am having right now is standing up and moving closer to the ball during the backswing, and then things just go bad from there. An instructor previously identified this issue and I can feel it happening again. I had some drills to work on for this, but I struggle implementing it in my swing. Going to experiment a bit with changing my setup posture to stand a bit more upright like George Gankas teaches. I have always felt more comfortable standing upright with little knee bend, but instructors have taught me to bend more.


Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Just a general observation of where my golf game is at right now based on my opinion:

  • Driver: Hitting the ball like a low to mid-handicapper, just need to stop trying to swing stupidly hard on some holes
  • Irons: Many shots, I look like someone who has never played golf before. Way too many wasted shots on super fat shots. Would probably decrease my average score by 10 shots if I could have any sort of consistency. 
  • Pitching/Chipping: There is hope. Besides the occasional chunk, just need to get a better feel for distance control.
  • Putting: Sometimes it's decent, sometimes it's bad. I tend to putt better when playing with other people because I take more time since I can look at my putt while others are putting. When I play by myself, I often times rush myself
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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Upright with a little knee bend is fine. Keep more weight on the front foot. You do not need a driver swing to hit the ball 130. Pick the right club and the only focus is on making good contact, not speed. So shorten the backswing. Choke down a touch. Try an open stance to force a shorter swing and to keep the face square for longer. Solid contact and the ball will get up and go the distance. 

 

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  • Irons: :srixon-small: U85 4I AD DI 95S, Z585 5-6, Z785 7-PW, Modus 120s
  • Wedges: :ping-small:: Glide 3.0 52, Modus 120x:taylormade-small:, Hi Toe 56 & 60, Modus 120x
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35 minutes ago, scooterhd2 said:

Upright with a little knee bend is fine. Keep more weight on the front foot. You do not need a driver swing to hit the ball 130. Pick the right club and the only focus is on making good contact, not speed. So shorten the backswing. Choke down a touch. Try an open stance to force a shorter swing and to keep the face square for longer. Solid contact and the ball will get up and go the distance. 

 

Thanks. I think if I can get rid of the hips moving toward the ball during the backswing, that will help. Also, need to reign in my head movement. I know that some head movement is okay, but I at times can have way too much lateral and up/down head movement.

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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32 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

Thanks. I think if I can get rid of the hips moving toward the ball during the backswing, that will help. Also, need to reign in my head movement. I know that some head movement is okay, but I at times can have way too much lateral and up/down head movement.

Yes, trying to force movements like the right hip clearing and going toward the target can create some problems. End up having to dump or reach for the ball to make contact, Fat city.  

A really easy drill, even without a ball, is to take 3/4 swings with a pitching wedge (nothing hard, just ingraining a feel) and start the downswing by sliding your rear foot (right foot) backward. Helps to wear tennis shoes, or even just socks in the house. Think of a hockey player taking a slapshot. This forces weight to the front foot, and the right shoulder to work down toward the ball. Keeps your spine tilt and almost forces you to be on plane as it is difficult to come over the top with your right foot pulling away from you.

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  • Irons: :srixon-small: U85 4I AD DI 95S, Z585 5-6, Z785 7-PW, Modus 120s
  • Wedges: :ping-small:: Glide 3.0 52, Modus 120x:taylormade-small:, Hi Toe 56 & 60, Modus 120x
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28 minutes ago, scooterhd2 said:

Yes, trying to force movements like the right hip clearing and going toward the target can create some problems. End up having to dump or reach for the ball to make contact, Fat city.  

A really easy drill, even without a ball, is to take 3/4 swings with a pitching wedge (nothing hard, just ingraining a feel) and start the downswing by sliding your rear foot (right foot) backward. Helps to wear tennis shoes, or even just socks in the house. Think of a hockey player taking a slapshot. This forces weight to the front foot, and the right shoulder to work down toward the ball. Keeps your spine tilt and almost forces you to be on plane as it is difficult to come over the top with your right foot pulling away from you.

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Nice. Saw this same drill from Monte's Instagram. Will give it a shot.


Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Hit my irons better today, much better. I had been struggling with hitting everything fat, especially short irons. The change I made was trying to feel like my left hip was snapping back at impact. "Snapping" might not be the right word, but I had seen a tip from Mike Malaska about that feel for rotation through impact. Took much smaller divots and even hit a few thin balls. My driver off the tee has continued to be a strength, but sometimes I overthink and then put a bad swing on the ball. However, I significantly reduced OB balls off the tee. I think I lost one today.

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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