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The good driver swing was nonexistent today. It didn't show up until the last hole.

Iron swing started to come around today. Made a small change to how I grip the club. My grip tends to get too strong and then I start to miss low and left. However, the grip starts to feel weird if I have a neutral grip. So what I did was start my setup with the face open, grip the club with my normal strong grip, and then proceeded to square the face behind the ball to complete my setup. It helped a lot.

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Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Reflecting overall, things are coming a long in my game. I started to see some breakthroughs in most aspects of my game and see glimpses of good golf mixed in with bad golf. In normal times, I would see an instructor in person to work through my current issues. However, with Covid ongoing, it has made it trickier to see an instructor in-person, at least in my area. Also hurting me is that my club's practice area is only open for warmups prior to a round (25 min max), so I haven't had a chance to practice much.

Once my backyard renovation is done, going to put back up my backyard net and do a few online lessons.

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Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Played with a couple of legitimate single digit handicappers yesterday and it was very encouraging for me. I learned that I could keep up with them off the tee. One of the biggest differences between their game and my game is I have too many chunked shots, sometimes a few in a row. I probably waste at least 5 and up to 10 shots a round on chunked shots. I will have a shot 100 yards out, perfect lie in the fairway, and I will find a way to chunk it. The second area is that their pitch/chip game is much cleaner than me. I find ways to screw up short chip shots, bunker shots, etc. 

When it comes to short game, I have the demonstrated the ability to hit good shots, its just the consistency missing. Yesterday, I felt when I try to make too "mechanical" of a swing/stroke, it usually resulted in a poor result. On 18, when I was dead tired, had a 40 yard pitch left, was too tired to be mechanical and just made a natural smooth feeling pitch swing and almost holed it, was within 2 feet. Where was that all day?

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Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Many areas of my game are showing promise. A couple of areas that need a lot of work:

  • Bunker play is currently atrocious. That is all i have to say about that
  • Ball above the feet lies give me a lot of problems. Almost guaranteed bad shot
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Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Another random thought that I had. I feel like I am the most underachieving golfer that shoots in the low 100s. Once I can get more consistency in a few areas of my game, I believe my scores will drop significantly, at least into the 90s regularly. Blow up holes are killing me these days and its usually not because of more game management. Sometimes its bunkers, sometimes its various lies on hills. And then sometimes bad shots come in streaks, like hitting two balls in a row in the water.

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Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Cleaned up the two way miss (for the most part). When my right hand starts getting too strong I start hitting either way right or pull/snap hook left. With a more neutral right hand, my miss mostly becomes block right, but is more manageable. 

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Now that I have cleaned up some setup fundamentals, I need to work on making sure the face gets squared up. I know to square it up, I need to get some flex in the left wrist. I am going to experiment with a little bit of wrist bow during the backswing. In my mind, this will reduce the amount of timing required to square the face. Let's see if this works, it may not.

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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Made one of the most important discoveries yesterday that is the biggest difference between me being a fairway sniper and hitting almost every fairway and me being a wildman and losing three balls off the tee on one hole. 

During yesterday's round, on the front 9 my driver off the tee was uncontrollable, push right, pull left, etc. I thought I was overswinging, so I tried to slow down the swing, that didn't help too much. Tried changing somethings with setup, etc. that didn't help either.

On hole 12, I decided to slow down my transition a bit. Be more patient at the top and feel like I am pausing at the top (it's not really a pause, it just feels like it). That was the difference maker and that was the swing I remember. From there, driver was point and shoot and a fairway finder. That small power fade that I remember.

Somewhere a long the line in the last month, in the attempt to hit the ball farther, I started getting quicker in transition, and that made me wild off the tee. I actually hit the ball farther with the slower transition, for one because I make better contact, and two, I am not actually swinging slower, just being more patient. I am really glad that I figured this one out.

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Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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13 hours ago, dlow206 said:

I am really glad that I figured this one out.

Uh oh!  Now you've done it.  I hope the golf gods didn't hear that.  🤣

Hope the fix works!!

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10 hours ago, Kenny B said:

Uh oh!  Now you've done it.  I hope the golf gods didn't hear that.  🤣

Hope the fix works!!

Thanks. Although it is a change, in my mind I don't think about it as a change. It's more of going back to my normal, natural tempo.

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Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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On 8/11/2020 at 11:44 AM, dlow206 said:

Now that I have cleaned up some setup fundamentals, I need to work on making sure the face gets squared up. I know to square it up, I need to get some flex in the left wrist. I am going to experiment with a little bit of wrist bow during the backswing. In my mind, this will reduce the amount of timing required to square the face. Let's see if this works, it may not.

This is something I need to work on. I was playing yesterday when a guy joined me on the fifth hole and we got to talking. He had just taken a lesson and was working on this exact thing. He was hitting iron shots that were like laser beams, starting out low before rising to their apex and just flying so pretty I was almost drooling. My iron shots just seem to rainbow and fly in am upside down u. 

Keep at it! You'll be shooting lower scores before long!

 

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On 8/13/2020 at 8:58 PM, Kenny B said:

Uh oh!  Now you've done it.  I hope the golf gods didn't hear that.  🤣

Hope the fix works!!

 

On 8/14/2020 at 7:48 AM, dlow206 said:

Thanks. Although it is a change, in my mind I don't think about it as a change. It's more of going back to my normal, natural tempo.

So in today's round, with driver I focused on tempo again, and it definitely helped. I can still hit a bad shot of course, but it wasn't like the unpredictable wildness that I was facing previously when I was getting too quick.

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Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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On 8/14/2020 at 4:32 PM, sirchunksalot said:

This is something I need to work on. I was playing yesterday when a guy joined me on the fifth hole and we got to talking. He had just taken a lesson and was working on this exact thing. He was hitting iron shots that were like laser beams, starting out low before rising to their apex and just flying so pretty I was almost drooling. My iron shots just seem to rainbow and fly in am upside down u. 

Keep at it! You'll be shooting lower scores before long!

 

I scratched that bowing of the wrist thought already LOL. I have a new thought with irons. I need to feel like before left arm parallel, the toe of the club is going straight up. That toe up feel led to really good ball striking today. Minimal fat shots, solid iron shots with much higher trajectory. I was a low ball hitter so I need some height and spin.

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Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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On 3/4/2020 at 4:59 PM, dlow206 said:

One thing I continue to struggle with that I need to work on is grip and wrist angles. What I learned today is that you can have a strong grip with an open face near impact. That never dawned on me as being possible. I believe this explains the snap hooks I have with my driver, that the face is coming down open and then a sudden move right before impact to close the face. What I am going to work on is neutral grip, flat left wrist at the top, and then a small amount of left wrist flexion to start the downswing. 

@dlow206 Saw this in your signature and I am reading through it to get my thoughts for you.... Take a look at DJ or Rahm both play 10.5 drivers with strong grips but play cuts off the tee box...... After I am done reading through I will post in this for you


Driver:taylormade-small: SIM 10.5, Graphite Design Tour AD-XC 6X 

Woods:cobra-small: SpeedZone 14.5, Graphite Design Tour AD-XC 7X

Hybrid: :ping-small: G410 4H, Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White 90X

UDI:titelist-small: U500 2i, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 95X

Irons:titelist-small: T-100 3-PW, Nippon Modus 120 X

Wedges: :ping-small: Glide Forged, DG TI S400, 52/56/60

Putter:  :EVNROLL: ER1.2 W/BGT Stability Shaft

Ball:  :titelist-small: ProV1X-Optic Yellow

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33 minutes ago, Manimal26 said:

@dlow206 Saw this in your signature and I am reading through it to get my thoughts for you.... Take a look at DJ or Rahm both play 10.5 drivers with strong grips but play cuts off the tee box...... After I am done reading through I will post in this for you

I was able to recently clean-up my drives. Two things I cleaned up specifically, not letting the right hand get too strong, and then make sure I maintain my natural tempo. When I get too quick in transition, things just go haywire.


Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s

Current MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft

Fujikura and Nippon fan. Connoisseur of grips.

Updated 7/14/2020
Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

Current Putter Collection:EVNROLL: ER10 Outback,  :bettinardi-small: 2017 Studio Stock 3, :cameron-small: La Costa 1st 500, :scotty-small: Squareback 1 (2008)
 

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@dlow206 Here are somethings I have picked out from the various pages that gave me insight along with the videos you had posted... Please again take this with a grain of salt since I have never seen you swing in person... I will attempt to address your concerns and please let me know if you have any thoughts questions feedback etc.

  1. "Broke 100 today, shot 99 from the blue tees"
    • This is the first thing that stood out to me. Playing to a 21.5 HDCP use that to your advantage and play the correct tee's for your HDCP at whatever course you are at. If you are improving off the tee a closer shot to the green will improve you GIR dramatically and help lower your scores. If anyone gives you crap wager them some money on stroke play with your HDCP's playing in and if they take that bet they are a sucker. Of course it depends on how many tee boxes etc. To help tell what Tee's you could be playing you just take the distance you hit your 5 iron and multiply it by 36 (constant strikes) for example 5i 200 yards carry X 36 = 7200 yards.... also factor in those 36 how many chunks duffs etc... Saw you mentioned 5-10 so we can take 8 of those going around 120... (28 solid strikes X 190) + (8 bad strikes X 120) = 5320 + 960 = 6280... Then use your HDCP and play the close if you are in between.
    • As you improve move back, or when you are shorter learn to hit other clubs off the tee for better positions etc...
  2. "I remembered that during my lesson with Monte, one of the things we talked about at the end was that my grip was too strong. So i decided to try to weaken my grip a bit. It felt strange, especially with how the wrist position felt at the top of the swing, but that straightened out my shots""Made a small change to how I grip the club. My grip tends to get too strong and then I start to miss low and left. However, the grip starts to feel weird if I have a neutral grip. So what I did was start my setup with the face open, grip the club with my normal strong grip, and then proceeded to square the face behind the ball to complete my setup. It helped a lot."
    • I made your comment large because nothing is more uncomfortable than a grip change... However even as you try to alter your grip there are still some things in it I noticed that are holding you back... Proper grip sets up everything for the most part... even in a further video this is something I still notice... 
    • .425673053_DLOWAfterlesson4thumb.jpg.9339f464789f6b23b8bc676a8167004c.jpg1420184571_DLOWAfterlesson8grip.jpg.c825a767e19db5ea377f1b739e15046a.jpg
    • I found this video throughout the thread and was able to highlight something that could be the source of the chunks. That is your right thumb location. Below take a look at the Goat and his grip at address. Hopefully this will make some sense after you see this next photo.
    • .1425683247_DLOWAfterlesson9improvedimpactTigergrip.jpg.4efb3cf715ce22333fa596bc073000cf.jpg1130819041_DLOWAfterlesson9improvedimpactTigergrip3456.jpg.2bd2ac4b10d156a3885e87ae3d7b192d.jpg
    • If you notice his right thumb is off to the side. I could not find a picture down the line that was good enough so I took one of myself to help illustrate. The right index finger no different than a trigger finger on a gun. Depending on how you push/pull move it etc greatly alters the gun shot and a golf shot is not that different. However a gun is designed to get your thumb moving to the side and a golf club is not. When your thumb is on top the golf shaft and you apply pressure with it the club head shoots down into the ground and the result is a chunk. Also having right thumbs pressure prevents the club from properly releasing which can trap the ball. This makes some sense since you mentioned you can not get the height you need sometimes. The trap/stinger shot is very useful, but getting the right decent into a green is much more important. 
  3. "I made it to the range yesterday and was out there for almost two hours. I typically warm up with short pitch shots before getting into full swings. When I was hitting short pitch shots, I was pulling the ball left. I had been having this problem lately, and just couldn't figure out why. I'm not making that bad of a swing that the ball should be pulled on a short pitch. Anyway, continued on to full swings, still struggled with left pulls, but able to manipulate my swing a bit to somewhat straighten out my shots. At this point, I felt like there was just too much swing manipulation going on."
    • You are right with the manipulation. That causes more problems than it will fix. Some of that can be fixed with how you address the ball and this is something I noticed in most of your video clips.... See the pictures below...
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    • In these you have improved your posture tremendously, but look at Tiger and how easy his hands are resting and at impact they have risen. if you look at your shaft line and his, yours goes up through your shoulders and his goes through his waist. By starting with such high hands you need to compensate with your grip and because you understand golf and are an athlete you can make those but you tend to over exert and chunk or if you do not apply enough pressure you top/hit it thin... Hand should be free falling this will allow your back swing to also progress much more naturally.
  4. "I thought I was over-swinging, so I tried to slow down the swing, that didn't help too much. Tried changing somethings with setup, etc. that didn't help either. On hole 12, I decided to slow down my transition a bit. Be more patient at the top and feel like I am pausing at the top (it's not really a pause, it just feels like it). That was the difference maker and that was the swing I remember. From there, driver was point and shoot and a fairway finder. That small power fade that I remember. Somewhere a long the line in the last month, in the attempt to hit the ball farther, I started getting quicker in transition, and that made me wild off the tee. I actually hit the ball farther with the slower transition, for one because I make better contact, and two, I am not actually swinging slower, just being more patient. I am really glad that I figured this one out"
    • I am putting this in here because it highlights a few things. You have a desire to improve! You are analyzing your swing along with practice and looking to others for help. These thoughts again please take with a grain of salt... The course is to be enjoyed played, but we are not tour pros. So do not get caught up to much analyzing in a round. Make a note and take it to the range. In the next photo it will highlight something I see a bit...
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    • The goal is to start and address the ball like Tiger and then end in the perfect impact position. However I am guiltily of this and sometimes I just want the baby and not the labor pains. A golf swing is a process and focusing on the things you have been are very important, but it all starts with your grip and works from there... After that is the take away....
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    • In an early video I saw a lot of arm rolling and becoming disconnected. The second photo shows a decent take away which will allow you transition into a better back swing.
    • My overall thoughts are that you are 100% improving and that's because you are putting in the effort... like anything the foundation is crucial...
      • Work on the grip to get it like Tiger.... Great book is swing the club head (hyper link to amzn) it will address positions grips feels, and every time I read it I gain something new
      • After you get the grip work on things in steps and focus your energy towards that... Takeaway leads into back swing.... back swing into transition... transition into the down swing... down swing into that Y shaped impact... and impact into the release...

 

I hope this helps, and please let me know if you have any questions or any feedback...

 

 

 

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Driver:taylormade-small: SIM 10.5, Graphite Design Tour AD-XC 6X 

Woods:cobra-small: SpeedZone 14.5, Graphite Design Tour AD-XC 7X

Hybrid: :ping-small: G410 4H, Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White 90X

UDI:titelist-small: U500 2i, Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 95X

Irons:titelist-small: T-100 3-PW, Nippon Modus 120 X

Wedges: :ping-small: Glide Forged, DG TI S400, 52/56/60

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24 minutes ago, Manimal26 said:

@dlow206 Here are somethings I have picked out from the various pages that gave me insight along with the videos you had posted... Please again take this with a grain of salt since I have never seen you swing in person... I will attempt to address your concerns and please let me know if you have any thoughts questions feedback etc.

  1. "Broke 100 today, shot 99 from the blue tees"
    • This is the first thing that stood out to me. Playing to a 21.5 HDCP use that to your advantage and play the correct tee's for your HDCP at whatever course you are at. If you are improving off the tee a closer shot to the green will improve you GIR dramatically and help lower your scores. If anyone gives you crap wager them some money on stroke play with your HDCP's playing in and if they take that bet they are a sucker. Of course it depends on how many tee boxes etc. To help tell what Tee's you could be playing you just take the distance you hit your 5 iron and multiply it by 36 (constant strikes) for example 5i 200 yards carry X 36 = 7200 yards.... also factor in those 36 how many chunks duffs etc... Saw you mentioned 5-10 so we can take 8 of those going around 120... (28 solid strikes X 190) + (8 bad strikes X 120) = 5320 + 960 = 6280... Then use your HDCP and play the close if you are in between.
    • As you improve move back, or when you are shorter learn to hit other clubs off the tee for better positions etc...
  2. "I remembered that during my lesson with Monte, one of the things we talked about at the end was that my grip was too strong. So i decided to try to weaken my grip a bit. It felt strange, especially with how the wrist position felt at the top of the swing, but that straightened out my shots""Made a small change to how I grip the club. My grip tends to get too strong and then I start to miss low and left. However, the grip starts to feel weird if I have a neutral grip. So what I did was start my setup with the face open, grip the club with my normal strong grip, and then proceeded to square the face behind the ball to complete my setup. It helped a lot."
    • I made your comment large because nothing is more uncomfortable than a grip change... However even as you try to alter your grip there are still some things in it I noticed that are holding you back... Proper grip sets up everything for the most part... even in a further video this is something I still notice... 
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    • I found this video throughout the thread and was able to highlight something that could be the source of the chunks. That is your right thumb location. Below take a look at the Goat and his grip at address. Hopefully this will make some sense after you see this next photo.
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    • If you notice his right thumb is off to the side. I could not find a picture down the line that was good enough so I took one of myself to help illustrate. The right index finger no different than a trigger finger on a gun. Depending on how you push/pull move it etc greatly alters the gun shot and a golf shot is not that different. However a gun is designed to get your thumb moving to the side and a golf club is not. When your thumb is on top the golf shaft and you apply pressure with it the club head shoots down into the ground and the result is a chunk. Also having right thumbs pressure prevents the club from properly releasing which can trap the ball. This makes some sense since you mentioned you can not get the height you need sometimes. The trap/stinger shot is very useful, but getting the right decent into a green is much more important. 
  3. "I made it to the range yesterday and was out there for almost two hours. I typically warm up with short pitch shots before getting into full swings. When I was hitting short pitch shots, I was pulling the ball left. I had been having this problem lately, and just couldn't figure out why. I'm not making that bad of a swing that the ball should be pulled on a short pitch. Anyway, continued on to full swings, still struggled with left pulls, but able to manipulate my swing a bit to somewhat straighten out my shots. At this point, I felt like there was just too much swing manipulation going on."
    • You are right with the manipulation. That causes more problems than it will fix. Some of that can be fixed with how you address the ball and this is something I noticed in most of your video clips.... See the pictures below...
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    • In these you have improved your posture tremendously, but look at Tiger and how easy his hands are resting and at impact they have risen. if you look at your shaft line and his, yours goes up through your shoulders and his goes through his waist. By starting with such high hands you need to compensate with your grip and because you understand golf and are an athlete you can make those but you tend to over exert and chunk or if you do not apply enough pressure you top/hit it thin... Hand should be free falling this will allow your back swing to also progress much more naturally.
  4. "I thought I was over-swinging, so I tried to slow down the swing, that didn't help too much. Tried changing somethings with setup, etc. that didn't help either. On hole 12, I decided to slow down my transition a bit. Be more patient at the top and feel like I am pausing at the top (it's not really a pause, it just feels like it). That was the difference maker and that was the swing I remember. From there, driver was point and shoot and a fairway finder. That small power fade that I remember. Somewhere a long the line in the last month, in the attempt to hit the ball farther, I started getting quicker in transition, and that made me wild off the tee. I actually hit the ball farther with the slower transition, for one because I make better contact, and two, I am not actually swinging slower, just being more patient. I am really glad that I figured this one out"
    • I am putting this in here because it highlights a few things. You have a desire to improve! You are analyzing your swing along with practice and looking to others for help. These thoughts again please take with a grain of salt... The course is to be enjoyed played, but we are not tour pros. So do not get caught up to much analyzing in a round. Make a note and take it to the range. In the next photo it will highlight something I see a bit...
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    • The goal is to start and address the ball like Tiger and then end in the perfect impact position. However I am guiltily of this and sometimes I just want the baby and not the labor pains. A golf swing is a process and focusing on the things you have been are very important, but it all starts with your grip and works from there... After that is the take away....
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    • In an early video I saw a lot of arm rolling and becoming disconnected. The second photo shows a decent take away which will allow you transition into a better back swing.
    • My overall thoughts are that you are 100% improving and that's because you are putting in the effort... like anything the foundation is crucial...
      • Work on the grip to get it like Tiger.... Great book is swing the club head (hyper link to amzn) it will address positions grips feels, and every time I read it I gain something new
      • After you get the grip work on things in steps and focus your energy towards that... Takeaway leads into back swing.... back swing into transition... transition into the down swing... down swing into that Y shaped impact... and impact into the release...

 

I hope this helps, and please let me know if you have any questions or any feedback...

 

 

 

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Man, this is awesome, I really appreciate the analysis, you definitely didn't have to do this. All of your points make sense. 

I have always felt that there was something off with my setup, especially my grip. I have been told by instructors in the past things like "your grip is too strong", but we had never really talked about my right hand/thumb being problematic. I actually recently discovered the problematic right thumb, and fixing that has helped. It actually no longer feels weird with a more correct right thumb.

One thing you probably won't see as much because there isn't a face-on video, my head tends to move up and down a lot during the swing. I'm not talking subtlety moving up and down, I'm talking like 6 inches up and down. I've found that by focusing on keeping my head level during the swing, i hit less chunks. 

 Regarding tee selection, my home course is pretty short, its about 6400 yards from the blues, 6000 from the whites. Sometimes I play worse from the white tees actually, just because it puts in play hazards and bunkers that I am safe from when playing from the blues.

Again, appreciate this, this was really great analysis.

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Overall, ball striking is starting to come around. For driver, for me, its all about tempo. If I start to get too quick, then I start to spray the ball. If i take what feels like a pause at the top, usually end up with a good strike.

Irons, when I am on, I am throwing darts out there onto the green. Mixed in there though, sometimes things go really haywire. I had a bad hole today where I pulled a 9 iron so far left it went OB (actually a hazard) that I am not sure how that could happen. I was in a great lie in the fairway. What I feel that happens when I make a good swing is that my head stays level throughout the swing instead of moving up and down. When I make a bad swing, I feel that i'm dipping down in transition and likely getting steep and then hit the ball fat or manipulate the club in someway that causes some poor result. Overall though, ball striking with irons improving immensely. 

Short game is still a little rough. Lag putting needs work, bunker play needs work. Pitching is ok, but not great. Still blade a few every now and then.

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Driver:taylormade-small:SIM Max 10.5 - Fujikura Ventus Red 5S Velocore (the real one)
Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
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Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

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Based on where I am at right now, I think it makes sense for me to focus on putting. That is probably the area where I can drop the most strokes. I signed up for a series of three online putting lessons with Marcus Potter. Will report back on how that goes.

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Hybrids:taylormade-small: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S
Irons:callaway-small:Mavrik Max 5 - AW - Nippon Neo 950GH S
Wedges: :cleveland-small: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - Nippon Modus 105 Wedge flex
Putter:  :scotty-small: Squareback 1 - Sense Grips S1 - Stability Shaft

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18 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Based on where I am at right now, I think it makes sense for me to focus on putting. That is probably the area where I can drop the most strokes. I signed up for a series of three online putting lessons with Marcus Potter. Will report back on how that goes.

How many GIR and total putts do your average? 


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