SkyTrak Bag Mapping - What would you do?

[Wedgie]

I’ve been doing a ton of things with my new SkyTrak launch monitor and found it to be pretty spot on in relation to what I’d expect out on the course. Today I decided to do my first bag mapping and the results didn’t really surprise me.

 

My question is what would you do to fill the gaps? Before you answer I did not hit driver. The 2 hybrid and driver are the same club, I just didn’t know how to relabel them. The 2 hybrid in the chart is a Cleveland Halo 2 hybrid in regular flex, the driver in the chart is a Cleveland Halo 2 hybrid in stiff flex. Both should go but how would you fix the gapping issues you see?

 

 

 

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[PMookie]

I’ve been doing a ton of things with my new SkyTrak launch monitor and found it to be pretty spot on in relation to what I’d expect out on the course. Today I decided to do my first bag mapping and the results didn’t really surprise me.
 
My question is what would you do to fill the gaps? Before you answer I did not hit driver. The 2 hybrid and driver are the same club, I just didn’t know how to relabel them. The 2 hybrid in the chart is a Cleveland Halo 2 hybrid in regular flex, the driver in the chart is a Cleveland Halo 2 hybrid in stiff flex. Both should go but how would you fix the gapping issues you see?
 

 
 
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I can’t tell what the gaps are, what you want them to be, and, therefore how far off they are, but it could be as simple as bending lofts if the distances aren’t too bad.


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[GolfSpy BOS]

Looks like you get bunched up at the long end of the bag. You can probably drop one of those I’m place of an extra wedge (60) or change out the wedges and do something like a 50-54-58.

It really doesn’t look bad though, I’d just rather have more options for wedge shots than an extra long game club.

For some of the spacing in the irons you could do the test again and if they’re still off you could check the lofts.

I’ve been wanting to do my own gap analysis. Thought about bringing my clubs to work to use the simulator there, nice to know that’s a feature for sky track!


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[pozzit]

I think you need to staighthen your 8 a degree and resolve the the top end since it is bunched up just keep 3 hybrid and 5 wood that opens some space for clubs and once you add driver and putter you will be at 12 clubs so you could add some woods between driver and 3 hybrid. You also have the chance to put a 60* in if you care to learn to hit one (my 2020 goal). That's my inexperienced opinion.

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[Wedgie]

Looks like you get bunched up at the long end of the bag. You can probably drop one of those I’m place of an extra wedge (60) or change out the wedges and do something like a 50-54-58.

It really doesn’t look bad though, I’d just rather have more options for wedge shots than an extra long game club.

For some of the spacing in the irons you could do the test again and if they’re still off you could check the lofts.

I’ve been wanting to do my own gap analysis. Thought about bringing my clubs to work to use the simulator there, nice to know that’s a feature for sky track!


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Thanks for the input. I’m thinking add a 60 degree wedge and a 3 wood. I average about 230 off the tee so I’d like to get a club I can hit at least 200 yards which with roll I can get out of the 3 hybrid but I don’t know if I need 200 carry which I’m not sure I can get.

The mapping is really cool and I do think I’ll double check them in the next couple of days to see if they are close to the same.


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[Wedgie]

I think you need to staighthen your 8 a degree and resolve the the top end since it is bunched up just keep 3 hybrid and 5 wood that opens some space for clubs and once you add driver and putter you will be at 12 clubs so you could add some woods between driver and 3 hybrid. You also have the chance to put a 60* in if you care to learn to hit one (my 2020 goal). That's my inexperienced opinion.

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I game the hollow body Cleveland Launchers and nobody will bend them because they’re too fat. But yeah, the 8 iron could stand to be strengthened a bit.


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[THEZIPR23]

Take two weeks off and then quit?

 

I don't see any glaring issues. The 8 could be a touch stronger but that could but just not hitting it solid at the time also, it really only is 2-3 yards off. I would drop 4 iron or 2 hybrid and add a 3w. If you're not comfortable with 60 then you could even add 5w if you dropped both. Just not sure where that would fall as it might be too close to 3 hybrid. Overall the gaping is pretty good. 

[TR1PTIK]

Not much correction needed aside from the top-end of the bag which you're already aware of. I'd definitely recommend getting the lofts checked for the one or two gaps that are larger than you'd ideally want.

I did a full bag analysis back in 2017 with a professional fitter using TrackMan. Other than a sizable gap between my 46-degree PW and my 52-degree (at the time) GW all of my gapping issues were directly related to iron loft. All we did was bend the irons back to OEM spec and everything was good again! I even went to see him at the beginning of this season to verify my gaps were still good and check the Bridgestone Tour B XW-1 wedges I got for testing. Two years and everything was still spot on!!! 

[edingc]

I haven't hit the Launcher irons, but how is the launch of the 4 iron versus the hybrids? Do they both launch high and stop softly? If so, looks like you could dump the four iron and one of the hybrids, add a wood of some sort (not sure on the hybrid lofts but maybe a 16-17 degree 4W?) and add an additional wedge with a different loft/grind option than what you already have? All depends on the course you're playing, I suppose. 

 

[JonMUSC08]

i bet the difference between your 7 and 8 is 4deg. All others are set to 3deg difference between clubs.

[Popeye64]

What software are you using on Skytrack to map the bag. I have access to a Skytrack but have never seen that option.

 

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[Wedgie]

What software are you using on Skytrack to map the bag. I have access to a Skytrack but have never seen that option.
 
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It is SkyTrak software. It is an upgrade from the free software you get with the system. I think it is called play and improve and the up charge is $99. You can track it down at www.skygolf.com.


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[Popeye64]

As for your bag I would make the PW a degree stronger and make that 8 iron stronger as well. That seems to be almost 2° off.
How long of a sample size was that. Could be an anomaly if it wasnt big enough. If that is data over a few sessions that I would definitely work in stronger lofts on those two.
I know you said you checked lofts at the beginning of the season but I'm sure you played a lot since then. As for the top of your bag you can definitely cull out a few clubs to create gaps and simplify the top end as well.

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[J.B. TexasEx]

As for your bag I would make the PW a degree stronger and make that 8 iron stronger as well. That seems to be almost 2° off.
How long of a sample size was that. Could be an anomaly if it wasnt big enough. If that is data over a few sessions that I would definitely work in stronger lofts on those two.
I know you said you checked lofts at the beginning of the season but I'm sure you played a lot since then. As for the top of your bag you can definitely cull out a few clubs to create gaps and simplify the top end as well.

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How many yards per degree can a 90 mph swinger expect to gain with an 8-iron? I'm curious about this calculation. Has anyone done the math on this for MGS?

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[Popeye64]

How many yards per degree can a 90 mph swinger expect to gain with an 8-iron? I'm curious about this calculation. Has anyone done the math on this for MGS?

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There are so many variables to that question. I'm sure there is some sort of equation somewhere.
You could do some of your own testing with changing swing speed and see what kinds of yardage increases you are getting with your own swing.
I would assume that the AOA would have to be constant to figure any sort of equation. Just thinking of all the variables make my head hurt.

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[J.B. TexasEx]

Just now, Popeye64 said:

There are so many variables to that question. I'm sure there is some sort of equation somewhere.
You could do some of your own testing with changing swing speed and see what kinds of yardage increases you are getting with your own swing.
I would assume that the AOA would have to be constant to figure any sort of equation. Just thinking of all the variables make my head hurt.

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Lol...agreed.

Too many variables to consider here and it'll take somebody a helluva lot smarter than me to figure it out. All I know is OEM's lofts have gotten progressively stronger since I first started playing. PW has gone from 48-degrees to 44 in some iron sets.

[Popeye64]

Lol...agreed.
Too many variables to consider here and it'll take somebody a helluva lot smarter than me to figure it out. All I know is OEM's lofts have gotten progressively stronger since I first started playing. PW has gone from 48-degrees to 44 in some iron sets.

But those stronger lofts are with irons that launch higher and spin less. They basically have made a ton of Super Game Improvement changes into the irons. So with the higher launch and less spin the angle of descent is higher and balls can stop.
My personal irons are conventional loft up to the 7 iron. Then I carry another 7 iron in modern design with the stronger lofts. 7,6,5 of the modern irons have much closer gapping in degrees in those higher numbers. A lot of the newer irons have 5° gaps in the shorter irons. So now my gapping in my short irons is nice and tight. My own version of a mixed set.
Sorry to thread jack.

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