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I am a 58-year-old beginner golfer. For the holidays, my wife is buying me a new set of irons (!!!) and I am trying to chose between the Cobra Oversize 4-PW/GW set and Bombtech 3.0 iron set (4-PW). Does anyone have any experience with these sets? Are they good for adult beginners? Their price points right now on sale are low and comparable, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, and happy holidays!

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Stay clear of EVERYTHING Bombtech. 

The owner of the company is a snake oil salesman 

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If you’re a beginner and you’re not sure if you’ll stay with golf, I’d recommend you buy used clubs - you can get the same quality for much less $ or much better quality versus new for the same $. If you get decide you like golf, you will probably want to upgrade either way - you won’t be satisfied with the new Cobra or Bombtechs in the long run either. The used club market is always flooded with trade-ins. You can buy almost any club in any condition online if you want, huge selection. If you don’t want to use online stores, you won’t have as much to choose from but just go to your nearest Golt Galaxy or PGA Superstore to see what’s available. Some are beat up (pass on those) but some are in (very) good condition. Best of luck.

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40 minutes ago, MrShowbiz999 said:

I am a 58-year-old beginner golfer. For the holidays, my wife is buying me a new set of irons (!!!) and I am trying to chose between the Cobra Oversize 4-PW/GW set and Bombtech 3.0 iron set (4-PW). Does anyone have any experience with these sets? Are they good for adult beginners? Their price points right now on sale are low and comparable, so any help would be appreciated.

Thanks, and happy holidays!

Not sure your level of golf skill but go to a golf fitter; not Dicks Sports or a big box store. Edwin Watts or PGA superstore, Golf Galaxy, or a local fitter will provide you with the best info for your skill set. Some golf fitters charge for a fitting, others dont. Usually they dont if you end up buying from them. Custom fitting is NOT ONLY for great players, it just matches your swing to the appropriate clubs and angles.

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13 minutes ago, JonMUSC08 said:

Not sure your level of golf skill but go to a golf fitter; not Dicks Sports or a big box store. Edwin Watts or PGA superstore, Golf Galaxy, or a local fitter will provide you with the best info for your skill set. Some golf fitters charge for a fitting, others dont. Usually they dont if you end up buying from them. Custom fitting is NOT ONLY for great players, it just matches your swing to the appropriate clubs and angles.

The OP said “I am a 58-year-old beginner golfer.“ Nothing wrong with a free fitting, but it’s a waste of money for most beginners to pay for a fitting unless maybe they have WTF measurements like a 5’2” or less or 6’4” or more person. Fitting is great, but it’s not the silver bullet many make it out to be. Lessons, course management and practice will do more than the best fitting for 90% of players. Standard clubs are workable for 90% of us, especially beginners. When your swing is dialed in, or at least repeatable, then a good fitting is a logical next step.

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4 minutes ago, Middler said:

The OP said he’s a beginner. Nothing wrong with a free fitting, but it’s a waste of money for most beginners to pay for a fitting unless maybe they have WTF measurements like a 5’2” or less or 6’4” or more person. Fitting is great, but it’s not the silver bullet many make it out to be. Lessons, course management and practice will do more than fitting for 90% of players. Standard clubs are workable for 90% of us, especially beginners...

Right, i wouldn't necessarily PAY for a fitting right now but a fitter will know much more than your gold department big box associate on what will help. A fitter will have you try a few different clubs, ask questions, and can possibly try different free option shafts to help.

If its your fist set of clubs, finding some with large soles on the bottom will help get the ball airborne and offer much more forgiveness. Find a MAX forgiveness club.

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The other golf internet forums are buzzing about the Callaway Epic Forged iron, a domestic club priced like the JDM stuff on Tour Spec.  Lofts are super strong in relation to the club number stampings, perhaps, but not in relation to the lengths. The 18º 4-iron is as long as a driving iron.  Lie angle / length correlations are about 1º flatter than most, much like Mizunos.  The gaps spread to five degrees in the shorter irons and the wedges. Cosmetics are more subdued than on most GI irons.

I have to say, I haven't read a single negative review. A guy who wouldn't part with his Ping Eye 2s for thirty years shelled out three grand for a set of irons once he tried them.

It could be all hype, but I'm getting the vibe that these things are the real deal.  The people raving include some serious players.

Who knows what about them?

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Thanks, all, for your input. I currently have a very old set of Ping Eye 2's that are pretty difficult for me to hit. What I've read about the Cobra OS is that they are very forgiving, and for the price it's pretty hard to beat . . . unless they are not worth anything at all.

I have been taking golf lessons on and off for the last year from a local club pro that is helping me to learn the game, in addition to my boys airing me out now and then. I spend a lot of time on a grass driving range trying to practice what I am learning. A for-cost fitting at a pro place for me is overkill, as I am looking at sets that will cost me low $00's to get me going when Spring comes around (I live in NJ.) I certainly do not need a set of irons that will cost me $000's right now (or maybe ever). This is a frustrating game, but it is something I am committed to learning so that I can get good enough to go out for a round with my sons and hold my own (they actually play!)

Given all this . . . thoughts? And again, thanks for all your valued input.

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Sounds like you are looking for Super-game improvement irons. My Golf Spy recommends the Cobra F-Max Superlite and the Tour Edge HL3

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The Cobras arent bad.  You should also consider the Tommy Armour Atomics.  I believe they are marked down to around $250 now, which is a crazy deal.

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2 hours ago, MrShowbiz999 said:

Thanks, all, for your input. I currently have a very old set of Ping Eye 2's that are pretty difficult for me to hit. What I've read about the Cobra OS is that they are very forgiving, and for the price it's pretty hard to beat . . . unless they are not worth anything at all.

I have been taking golf lessons on and off for the last year from a local club pro that is helping me to learn the game, in addition to my boys airing me out now and then. I spend a lot of time on a grass driving range trying to practice what I am learning. A for-cost fitting at a pro place for me is overkill, as I am looking at sets that will cost me low $00's to get me going when Spring comes around (I live in NJ.) I certainly do not need a set of irons that will cost me $000's right now (or maybe ever). This is a frustrating game, but it is something I am committed to learning so that I can get good enough to go out for a round with my sons and hold my own (they actually play!)

Given all this . . . thoughts? And again, thanks for all your valued input.

All the more reason to buy good used, but I gather you just want new. As others have said, super game improvement may be a good place to start.

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There are many good options for you to choose from.  Last model years can often be had at significant discounts so long as you fit standard shaft length and lie.  PING G400's sound like they would be a good match and they are being offered at roughly 40% discount from original MSRP.

https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/ping-g400-black-dot-irons-steel-17pngmg400stl4wxxirn/17pngmg400stl4wxxirn

The Wilson D7's got great reviews and are a good value. https://www.carlsgolfland.com/wilson-d7-irons

I would definitely get a basic fitting done that checks your static/physical dimensions and strike plate test to establish lie.  Good luck!

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If your looking at cobra , I just tried the new t rail hybrid/iron combo and liked them so much I got fitted and bought them . I have played the ping g700’s last 2 seasons and was just not “feeling it” can’t explain what it is but the cobras felt awesome with heaps of forgiveness. Seen a couple other posts on the new Cleveland launchers and also Wilson launch pad. Lots of new tech out this year for us hackers. The best advice I ever got was from these forms and it was to absolutely get fit for your clubs, get something that is set up for you and your swing.

 

 

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The Cobras arent bad.  You should also consider the Tommy Armour Atomics.  I believe they are marked down to around $250 now, which is a crazy deal.
If you're looking to get the best bang for your buck, I'm going to second this notion. The Atomics are easy to launch, go a long way, and are just fun to hit.

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On 12/30/2019 at 3:37 PM, ZenGolfer said:

The Cobras arent bad.  You should also consider the Tommy Armour Atomics.  I believe they are marked down to around $250 now, which is a crazy deal.

Great suggestion here on the TA's.  Budget friendly for a quality set of irons. 

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If I can purchase the Cobra's and the TA's for the exact same price, is there a preference from the crowd? $250.00 is a good number for me, given all the post-XMAS discounts going around. And I am thinking the Atomic MAX as they seem to have more forgiveness.

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12 hours ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

Great suggestion here on the TA's.  Budget friendly for a quality set of irons. 

I like mine now that Ive gotten a feel for distance on them.

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There are many good options for you to choose from.  Last model years can often be had at significant discounts so long as you fit standard shaft length and lie.  PING G400's sound like they would be a good match and they are being offered at roughly 40% discount from original MSRP.
https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p/ping-g400-black-dot-irons-steel-17pngmg400stl4wxxirn/17pngmg400stl4wxxirn
The Wilson D7's got great reviews and are a good value. https://www.carlsgolfland.com/wilson-d7-irons
I would definitely get a basic fitting done that checks your static/physical dimensions and strike plate test to establish lie.  Good luck!

ABSOLUTELY. Are you upright or flat? Standard length or other? Don’t think that the fitter will try to change your swing. Get clubs that fit the swing you have now (“Swing YOUR swing”, Arnie said...) and then when you improve, get better clubs better fit to your better swing.


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