perseveringgolfer Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Taking the SIM Max out for a demo round this Saturday, pro absolutely loved it 2 days ago, he missed zero fairways, he said he didnt get more distance just better dispersion, nicer sound and higher confidence- he shot -4 fozcycle, yungkory and heribertomaya 2 1 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 hours ago, perseveringgolfer said: Taking the SIM Max out for a demo round this Saturday, pro absolutely loved it 2 days ago, he missed zero fairways, he said he didnt get more distance just better dispersion, nicer sound and higher confidence- he shot -4 I'm trying to demo one sometime soon as well. Hesitant because the stock playing length is 45.75 and I'm already missing fairways with something not quite as long. Wondering if they have weights to bring the swingweight back up when ordered to play at 45" -- does anyone know? That's one of the coolest things about the tour length Cobra drivers IMO, they include the heavier weights when you chop an inch off. Might go try and demo a SpeedZone on the course even though it's not my preferred feel off the face, I could learn to like it if the performance is there! fozcycle 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 7 hours ago, yungkory said: I'm trying to demo one sometime soon as well. Hesitant because the stock playing length is 45.75 and I'm already missing fairways with something not quite as long. Wondering if they have weights to bring the swingweight back up when ordered to play at 45" -- does anyone know? That's one of the coolest things about the tour length Cobra drivers IMO, they include the heavier weights when you chop an inch off. Might go try and demo a SpeedZone on the course even though it's not my preferred feel off the face, I could learn to like it if the performance is there! Taylormade will adjust the weight screw for shorter than stock. Like most companies though if you order a specific swingweight they will try to get it but won’t guarantee it will be spot on fozcycle 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smellis745 Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 10 hours ago, yungkory said: I'm trying to demo one sometime soon as well. Hesitant because the stock playing length is 45.75 and I'm already missing fairways with something not quite as long. Wondering if they have weights to bring the swingweight back up when ordered to play at 45" -- does anyone know? That's one of the coolest things about the tour length Cobra drivers IMO, they include the heavier weights when you chop an inch off. Might go try and demo a SpeedZone on the course even though it's not my preferred feel off the face, I could learn to like it if the performance is there! Once you have it cut and know how much weight is needed, add some hot melt or lead tape it. With the boat rudder, I say that jokingly because I actually love the look of the SIM, you could just put some tape along the sides. Play it until you find what you like and then add the melt. Or, just wait til TM releases weights. Then again, weights used in the M3/M5 may fit it just fine. fozcycle 1 Quote PXG 0811X Gen 4 7.5* - Graphite Design Tour AD-HD 7 TX TaylorMade M6 15* - PX HZRDUS Green 80 TX Titleist 913 Fd 18* - MCA KuroKage XMS 90 X /// OR /// Callaway XForged UT 20* - Aldila Rogue Black 105 TX Srixon Z745 4-P - PX LZ 7.0 Vokey SM7 49F / 53F / 58K - DG TI S400 Odyssey Black #3 34” Titleist AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Went to the shop today because I forgot a hat and my face will melt off in the sun without one. Decided to peep the new sim max and wow, I can see why Rory plays a 10.5 turned down to 8.5 — it really looks shut at address. Love the shape and I definitely want to hit one against a Speedzone outdoors. PMookie and sirchunksalot 2 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 39 drivers tested for most wanted. My general assessment is that in most cases the drivers are pretty much equal with some exceptions where the club was a total misfit for me. When looking at the couple of mph difference I will attribute that to daily swing variances. I still recommend swinging as many as possible to see what you like and what works best for you. My biggest surprise was the Honma drivers. Top drivers were ping, callaway, and TM. Cobra was not as good as described,Left me disappointed. I don’t have numbers from each driver but if I was looking ping would probably be my choice and then fit myself for the best shaft. Smellis745, GolfSpy BOS, RickyBobby_PR and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozcycle Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Still gaming the Cobra F8 and Wilson Triton......because the Triton stays in the fairway and the F8 has a fade tendency.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy HardcoreLooper 1 Quote Driver: 0311 XF 10.5* w/Project X Cypher 40 gram Senior shaft or 0811 XF 12* w/Evenflo Riptide CB Senior shaft Fairways: 0211 5W & 7W w/ Evenflo Riptide CB regular shaft and Tour Edge E521 9W w/Fubuki HD50 regular shaft Hybrid: None in bag at the moment Irons: Titleist T300 5-PW w/Fubuki MV Senior graphite shafts w/Golf Pride Tour Wedges: Edison forged 49*, 53* and 57* wedges with KB PGI Senior shafts(80 grm). Putter: 33” Evnroll ER6R or ER2 or Bellum Winmore Model 707, or Nike Method Core Drone w/Evnroll Gravity Grip Bag: Vice cart bag(Black/Lime). Ball: Snell MTB Prime X, Maxfli Tour/S/X CG, Titleist Pro V1x or Titleist TruFeel Using Shot Scope X5 and Pinned Rangefinder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Before I left Dallas this morning, I went by a local store, Dallas golf, that had the Honma rep there today. I was able to go through a quick fitting for their new driver, hitting both the 460, and the 440 cc heads. My Callaway flash subzero was showing 168 ball speed, which is consistent with what I’ve seen on trackman recently. The Honma 440 with Ventus black 70 X shaft was hitting 170 consistently, and even getting to 171. The most interesting part about that ball speed was that I was not hitting the ball consistently in the center of the face! I hit a lot of heel, toe, and high face shots, all of which held ball speed pretty darn well! I have not seen 170, 171 ball speed in a long time! Even with all of the inconsistent strike locations, the dispersion was significantly tighter than it was with my Callaway! The rep is coming to North Louisiana the last week of the month And he is going to get me out at one of the country clubs to hit the driver outside to confirm the ball flight and spin, etc. we were seeing. This driver head is legit! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro THEZIPR23, fozcycle, sirchunksalot and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Before I left Dallas this morning, I went by a local store, Dallas golf, that had the Honma rep there today. I was able to go through a quick fitting for their new driver, hitting both the 460, and the 440 cc heads. My Callaway flash subzero was showing 168 ball speed, which is consistent with what I’ve seen on trackman recently. The Honma 440 with Ventus black 70 X shaft was hitting 170 consistently, and even getting to 171. The most interesting part about that all speed was that I was not hitting the ball consistently in the center of the face! I hit a lot of heel, toe, and high face shots, all of which held ball speed pretty darn well! I have not seen 170, 171 ball speed and a long time! Even with all of the inconsistent strike locations, the dispersion was significantly tighter than it was with my Callaway! The rep is coming to North Louisiana the last week of the month And he is going to get me out at one of the country clubs to hit the driver outside to confirm the ball flight and spin, etc. we were seeing. This driver head is legit! I was really impressed with all the heads. Did you use the Vizard shaft or something else? Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: Sacks Parente MC 3 Stripe Backup Putters: Milled Collection RSX 2, mFGP2, Futura 5W, TM-180 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I was really impressed with all the heads. Did you use the Vizard shaft or something else?Ventus Black 7X, Diamana DF, and some royal blue shaft with a bunch of silver graphics. not sure what it was . Didn’t hit the Vizard at all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro sirchunksalot, cnosil and JohnSmalls 3 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbmullin Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 39 drivers tested for most wanted. My general assessment is that in most cases the drivers are pretty much equal with some exceptions where the club was a total misfit for me. When looking at the couple of mph difference I will attribute that to daily swing variances. I still recommend swinging as many as possible to see what you like and what works best for you. My biggest surprise was the Honma drivers. Top drivers were ping, callaway, and TM. Cobra was not as good as described,Left me disappointed. I don’t have numbers from each driver but if I was looking ping would probably be my choice and then fit myself for the best shaft. I tried both cobra drivers tonight and I was not impressed by either of them. Callaway mavrik max was amazing, out did my g410 plus right off the shelf with out and tweaking. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy cnosil and GolfSpy BOS 2 Quote DRIVER - Ping G425 SFT Driver Tensei AV 55 Orange Reg Flex Woods - Ping G425 7 wood Tensei AV 65 Orange Reg Flex Irons - Cobra Rad Speed 1 Length UST Recoil 780 Smacwrap Graphite Reg Flex WEDGES- Callaway jaws 52/56/60 PUTTER- Taylormade FCG spider putter 34" BALL- Pro V1x or Tp5X -- trying to figure this one out. Footjoy Tour S golf shoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 I got to take like 5 swings with the Speedzone (smoke stiff, not yellow smoke), SIM (smoke green) and Mavrik (riptide)And they all felt pretty good. Overall best feel was the speedzone, but the rubber tee they had was obnoxiously high and I was not putting great swings on them. I will say that there was evidence of people hitting that infinity face all over and I think it was a good move for cobra considering all the paint chips I saw on F9 demo clubs. The Mavrik shape looked really good and compact to me. And the SIM looked really good as well. I’m looking forward to spending some time with them and seeing what works best, but it was in ice to make a few swings. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbmullin Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I got to take like 5 swings with the Speedzone (smoke stiff, not yellow smoke), SIM (smoke green) and Mavrik (riptide) And they all felt pretty good. Overall best feel was the speedzone, but the rubber tee they had was obnoxiously high and I was not putting great swings on them. I will say that there was evidence of people hitting that infinity face all over and I think it was a good move for cobra considering all the paint chips I saw on F9 demo clubs. The Mavrik shape looked really good and compact to me. And the SIM looked really good as well. I’m looking forward to spending some time with them and seeing what works best, but it was in ice to make a few swings. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkJust got home from a fitting for the mavrik to see if last night was an anomaly.. it’s was not. Mavrik max with riptide 50 reg shaft for me was the best feel and performance I’ve had in years. Tried the speed zone in same shafts and set up and the mavrik max was a monster.. both myself and the fitter were amazed at the difference. Anyone that doesn’t believe in fittings is really missing out. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy GolfSpy BOS and Golfspy_CG2 2 Quote DRIVER - Ping G425 SFT Driver Tensei AV 55 Orange Reg Flex Woods - Ping G425 7 wood Tensei AV 65 Orange Reg Flex Irons - Cobra Rad Speed 1 Length UST Recoil 780 Smacwrap Graphite Reg Flex WEDGES- Callaway jaws 52/56/60 PUTTER- Taylormade FCG spider putter 34" BALL- Pro V1x or Tp5X -- trying to figure this one out. Footjoy Tour S golf shoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just got home from a fitting for the mavrik to see if last night was an anomaly.. it’s was not. Mavrik max with riptide 50 reg shaft for me was the best feel and performance I’ve had in years. Tried the speed zone in same shafts and set up and the mavrik max was a monster.. both myself and the fitter were amazed at the difference. Anyone that doesn’t believe in fittings is really missing out. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpyAwesome! I did not get to swing any of the Max/extreme models this time, but I certainly will. I reallly liked the riptide, which doesn’t surprise me since they billed it as a. Evenflow black with the feel of the blue, which I was debating over which I liked better haha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreLooper Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 On 1/2/2020 at 7:02 PM, Tarheelvolvo said: While looks are one thing, I've always prescribed to the "function is fashion" ideology. So if I can hit it longer and straighter with a pink driver that has rabbit ears coming out the back, then so be it. Looking forward to trying out all the new and current models as I desperately need a new driver. Can't wait to see you mash it with something a litttle more recent. Jay and Matt at Mulligan's/Bogeys are waiting for you cnosil and Tarheelvolvo 2 Quote What's in the bag: Driver - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Wood (13.5*) - 980F 4 Wood (18*) - F8 - Aldila NV Blue 60 ( S ) 3 Hybrid (19*) - RBZ 4i - PW - D7 Forged - Recoil 760 ( S ) 52* - CBX 58* - CBX Full Face 2 Putter - Craz-e Bag - 2.5 (Blue) Ball - AVX Instagram - @hardcorelooper Twitter - @meovino Facebook - mike.eovino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Demo'd a SIM today, outdoor range on GCquad. Unfortunately hitting range balls but at least there was something to show me numbers. Swing was trash, but my bad shots weren't as bad with a SIM Max. Also, it's kinda gross that they are calling that stock "ventus" a ventus, but the shaft itself feels pretty good to me, and performed well. I'm kinda meh on OEM fittings but we don't have much options on our little rock in the ocean. Hopefully this is my last club-ho adventure before I go to Truespec in October. GolfSpy BOS, PMookie and RickyBobby_PR 3 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 56 minutes ago, yungkory said: Demo'd a SIM today, outdoor range on GCquad. Unfortunately hitting range balls but at least there was something to show me numbers. Swing was trash, but my bad shots weren't as bad with a SIM Max. Also, it's kinda gross that they are calling that stock "ventus" a ventus, but the shaft itself feels pretty good to me, and performed well. I'm kinda meh on OEM fittings but we don't have much options on our little rock in the ocean. Hopefully this is my last club-ho adventure before I go to Truespec in October. I saw Fujikura comment on another forum about the ventus and that it was a joint venture that they worked with TM to design a shaft that would fit a wide variety of golfers and referenced the specs could be found on the TM site. When googling about the shaft prior to seeing that one of the hits came from a different forum that fujikura sold the ventus name to TM. Dont want to take this thread down the made for debate as there is a thread about this specific shaft already but figured since you commented on how it felt and performed I would chime in with what I found in my research on it yungkory 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, yungkory said: Demo'd a SIM today, outdoor range on GCquad. Unfortunately hitting range balls but at least there was something to show me numbers. Swing was trash, but my bad shots weren't as bad with a SIM Max. Also, it's kinda gross that they are calling that stock "ventus" a ventus, but the shaft itself feels pretty good to me, and performed well. I'm kinda meh on OEM fittings but we don't have much options on our little rock in the ocean. Hopefully this is my last club-ho adventure before I go to Truespec in October. Do you have any of your numbers with this compared to your gamer? Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 I saw Fujikura comment on another forum about the ventus and that it was a joint venture that they worked with TM to design a shaft that would fit a wide variety of golfers and referenced the specs could be found on the TM site. When googling about the shaft prior to seeing that one of the hits came from a different forum that fujikura sold the ventus name to TM. Dont want to take this thread down the made for debate as there is a thread about this specific shaft already but figured since you commented on how it felt and performed I would chime in with what I found in my research on it I couldn’t find the Taylormade version of the Ventus on fujikura’s site, but in the Taylormade custom options it seems they’re calling the original Ventus “Ventus with Velocore”Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: I saw Fujikura comment on another forum about the ventus and that it was a joint venture that they worked with TM to design a shaft that would fit a wide variety of golfers and referenced the specs could be found on the TM site. When googling about the shaft prior to seeing that one of the hits came from a different forum that fujikura sold the ventus name to TM. Dont want to take this thread down the made for debate as there is a thread about this specific shaft already but figured since you commented on how it felt and performed I would chime in with what I found in my research on it Yeah, I had my opinions about that "stock" ventus when it first came out, but as some other forum members pointed out, only folks like us who frequent sites like these would even know or care. I thought it was just TM trying to pull a fast one on people, but looking deeper they're not really pushing the ventus as anything more than their other offerings. I still don't like it, but I'm less butthurt I guess. Just now, RickyBobby_PR said: Do you have any of your numbers with this compared to your gamer? The numbers with my gamer were laughable, as I said my swing was pretty horrible to begin the fitting. Everything was just diving out of the sky, and it was a struggle. Swing path was back to 8* right -- getting stuck and flippy is my biggest flaw. I met the TM rep previously through a friend so he was helping me out and got my path on a more acceptable level and everything improved numbers wise. I should've hit the Flash again once I was warmed up a little more and swinging better, but I'd rather have equipment that performs better when I'm off, than when I'm firing on all cylinders. I'm just looking for something different behind the ball at this point, lost all confidence in Flash sadly. RickyBobby_PR 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, B.Boston said: I couldn’t find the Taylormade version of the Ventus on fujikura’s site, but in the Taylormade custom options it seems they’re calling the original Ventus “Ventus with Velocore” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to try the actual ventus after hitting this one today. The "made for" version honestly feels really good. GolfSpy BOS 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to try the actual ventus after hitting this one today. The "made for" version honestly feels really good.Purely speculation... but I would HOPE that the feel should be similar, but will be much more stable overall. That might be the only way I’m OK with them using the name. Sort of like how the CK white and CK pro white felt similar to me, but the pro was much more stable in the tip. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungkory Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, B.Boston said: Purely speculation... but I would HOPE that the feel should be similar, but will be much more stable overall. That might be the only way I’m OK with them using the name. Sort of like how the CK white and CK pro white felt similar to me, but the pro was much more stable in the tip. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm going to see if I can track one down used and maybe save a little bit and experiment with it. I wanted to try shorter length but all of the rep's shafts were playing at TM stock 45.75 which IMO is way too long. Trying to hit these fairways man!! GolfSpy BOS 1 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max LS Tensei AV Blue S 3w/5w: TSi2 Tensei AV Raw Blue S 4h: CLK 22* Hybrid Tensei CK Pro Blue 80HY S Irons 5-PW: 223 Steelfiber PR 95 S Wedges: RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 50, 54, 58 Steelfiber PR 105 Putter: LAB Link.1 Ball: Z-Star Diamond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy BOS Posted February 16, 2020 Author Share Posted February 16, 2020 I'm going to see if I can track one down used and maybe save a little bit and experiment with it. I wanted to try shorter length but all of the rep's shafts were playing at TM stock 45.75 which IMO is way too long. Trying to hit these fairways man!!Yikes! All of the shafts at True Spec we’re set to be 45 inches.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk yungkory 1 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S SMS Pro 4-PW - Steelfiber i110S | MG3 Raw Black 50.09, 54.11, 58.11 - DG TI S200 ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Jones Trouper R | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 57 minutes ago, B.Boston said: I couldn’t find the Taylormade version of the Ventus on fujikura’s site, but in the Taylormade custom options it seems they’re calling the original Ventus “Ventus with Velocore” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk As I mentioned in my post you have to go to the Taylormade site to see the specs. While it’s a fujikura made shaft the shaft belongs to Taylormade. If you customize a driver on the site and choose ventus blue or red (non velocore) you will get the specs 49 minutes ago, B.Boston said: Purely speculation... but I would HOPE that the feel should be similar, but will be much more stable overall. That might be the only way I’m OK with them using the name. Sort of like how the CK white and CK pro white felt similar to me, but the pro was much more stable in the tip. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It’s going to probably feel different since the shafts ate completely different. Only thing in common is the name. It uses different material and different overall design. GolfSpy BOS 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 In seeing Phil hitting less than a 1/3 of fairways, and yesterday, Rory hit just 5/14 fairways, are these driver heads REALLY more forgiving than the previous models? Wouldn’t we be seeing more fairways hit each subsequent year with the improvements? The TXG videos showed that Speedzone, SIM, and Mavrik had some advantages in dispersion and consistency vs the previous model. Curious as to when that will be noticeable on Tour.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro JohnSmalls 1 Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 5 hours ago, PMookie said: In seeing Phil hitting less than a 1/3 of fairways, and yesterday, Rory hit just 5/14 fairways, are these driver heads REALLY more forgiving than the previous models? Wouldn’t we be seeing more fairways hit each subsequent year with the improvements? The TXG videos showed that Speedzone, SIM, and Mavrik had some advantages in dispersion and consistency vs the previous model. Curious as to when that will be noticeable on Tour. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Forgiveness doesn’t equate to more fairways. Forgiveness reduces the dispersion while keeping speed as close to on center hits. These guys don’t miss the sweet spot too often but at their speeds the misses are going to be a little more penalizing than a slower swing. A missed sweet spot with a face to path that’s just off will be a fairway missed regardless of head The tour avg fairways hit is in the mid to upper 70% for the most accurate. Rory for the last several years is in the 60% range Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Forgiveness doesn’t equate to more fairways. Forgiveness reduces the dispersion while keeping speed as close to on center hits. These guys don’t miss the sweet spot too often but at their speeds the misses are going to be a little more penalizing than a slower swing. A missed sweet spot with a face to path that’s just off will be a fairway missed regardless of head The tour avg fairways hit is in the mid to upper 70% for the most accurate. Rory for the last several years is in the 60% range “Reduces dispersion.” Exactly. Thank you for confirming my point!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 hours ago, PMookie said: “Reduces dispersion.” Exactly. Thank you for confirming my point!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro There are many factors that go into fairways hit. A bounce left or right sb they could be in the fairway. Some drives regardless of driver head won’t come back. These players hit those more often than people think. At their speed and consistency the dispersion on a mishit isn’t going to move as much as an amateur. The line they choose can impact if they get the fairway or not. DJ drive one long thru the fairway Lastly these guys are trying to hit is as far as they can and can hit greens from the rough with a shorter irons. Rory is usually mid 60s% of GIR which is about your avg. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 There are many factors that go into fairways hit. A bounce left or right sb they could be in the fairway. Some drives regardless of driver head won’t come back. These players hit those more often than people think. At their speed and consistency the dispersion on a mishit isn’t going to move as much as an amateur. The line they choose can impact if they get the fairway or not. DJ drive one long thru the fairway Lastly these guys are trying to hit is as far as they can and can hit greens from the rough with a shorter irons. Rory is usually mid 60s% of GIR which is about your avg. It’s interesting, sometimes, to see your post and think that you really might believe you’re the sole source for the information you present... The “hit it longer, so therefore less fairways hit” mention was done in Golf Digest a few years back, even with imagery, showing how the further one hits it, the better the chances to hit “through a fairway”, or go further offline. Yep. Millions of us read this story. What is interesting is that you said exactly what I said, dispersion should be reduced, yet you come back almost going away from that.Here’s the deal: DJ, Rory, Zach Johnson for that matter, all should be benefitting from the new tech in heads that helps reduce dispersion. If dispersion is reduced, more fairways should be hit. Period. We should be seeing an uptick, because let’s face it, these dudes know their targets. They know exactly how far they can hit driver. They choose the line off the tee with this in-mind. A more forgiving head, decreasing dispersion, should keep the ball on that line they chose more often, and, therefore, hit more fairways.We’re not seeing it.What could REALLY be the reason this isn’t the case for them is that a LOT of times, the heads they play are different than ours, SO, it’s possible that their “hot melt”, weighting, set-up, less “twist-face”, etc, are the culprit.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Driver: Ping G430 Max 9*, Ping Tour 70X Fairway: Ping G425 15*, Ping Tour 70X Hybrid: Ping G425 22*, Ping Tour 80X Irons: Ping i230 4-GW, TT DG X100 Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 Ball: Titleist 2023 AVX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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