Mr. 82 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 https://www.golfchannel.com/news/cheater-patrick-reed-heckled-fan-during-tournament-champions-playoff Quote As Reed’s 8-foot birdie try on the third playoff hole ran past the cup, a person from the crowd could be heard shouting, “Cheater!” The scream did not happen during Reed's stroke, but Reed appeared to immediately glare at the person and muttered something that was not picked up by television microphones. So what's your take on this? Are people justified in heckling this guy unmercifully for the forseeable future, or have "fans" gone over the line? They are also discussing whether it's too late for Reed to apologize, which I'm not even sure Reed knows what that word means. I mean, we're talking about a guy who disowned his own family. Not that my opinion matters, but I think that what goes around comes around in life. Reed has a very checkered past, including playing for two colleges where as Kevin Kisner puts it, “I don’t know that they’d piss on him if he was on fire, to tell you the truth." Again, it's just my thoughts, but maybe if Reed actually owned his mistakes, and grew an ounce of humility, then maybe people would back off. But I kinda have to agree with Notah Begay in saying that the heckling and abuse or whatever you want to call it isn't going away, and that Reed has made his bed, and now he will have to sleep in it. MGoBlue100, TR1PTIK, MattF and 1 other 4 Quote G400 Driver XR 4 Fairway 16.5° Fli-Hi Utility Iron - 21° G Series 5-9 irons SM7 46°, 50°, 54° & 58° Ghost Spider S putter Nexus Laser Rangefinder Garmin Approach S20 GPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I don’t get people’s need to heckle anyone regardless of sport or action. How bad is ones self esteem they have to rag on someone to feel good about themselves or act like they got the better of the person. Also don’t get why anyone cares. Whose life is affected by either Reeds actions intentional or not or if the guy was right or wrong to heckle him? i get it that it’s a good forum and the season is still not really under way but that event is in the past and life goes on. Wish society to get back to just booing bad plays, cheering good ones and if you don’t like something avoid it. need more positivity than negativity in the world bens197, tony@CIC, MGoBlue100 and 4 others 7 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I don't like the culture at sporting events these days. Everyone seems to feel entitled to do things that could land them a brief stay in the county jail if done under different circumstances. It's getting out of hand and will eventually boil over into something absurd. Considering Kapalua is probably the tamest crowd all year with the noted exception of Augusta, I think the heckling will only get worse as the season progresses. Especially when you factor in the media attention this is getting. Can you imagine what the New York crowd at Winged Foot is going to be like? Mr. 82, JohnSmalls, MGoBlue100 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR1PTIK Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I said it in the other thread for the tournament, but my preference is that heckling would have no place in any sport. Unfortunately, the world doesn’t bow to my whims and if heckling is going to exist then I see no problem with what occurred. He yelled after the putt so it didn’t impact the stroke and as long as people are respectful enough not to make noise mid-swing then let it happen or start booting people from tournaments. Pretty cut and dry to me. Mr. 82, tony@CIC, MGoBlue100 and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: ST190 9.5* Fujikura Atmos Blue 5S Fairway Wood: ST190 15* Fujikura Atmos Blue 6S Hybrid: CLK 17* Fujikura Speeder EVO HB Irons: J40 CB (3-PW) Dynamic Gold Tour Issue X100 Wedges: Milled Grind 2 54* & 58* Dynamic Gold S200 Putter: Tri-Hot 5k Two 34" Bag: Players 5 Stand Bag Ball: Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 There is definitely a line to heckling. In golf that line is probably much closer than any of the other major sports. I'm with TR1PTIK though, if it's not mid swing and interfering with the shot then have at it. I'm also not a fan of heckling based on things a player can't control. Don't rag on someone for the way they look, swing, talk etc... But ragging on someone for cheating is free reign in my opinion. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. It's gonna take a long time before everyone moves on from this one. I really hope he plays in the Waste Management because that crowd will let him have it. silver & black, revkev, russtopherb and 3 others 6 Quote Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berg Ryman Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 16 minutes ago, hckymeyer said: I really hope he plays in the Waste Management because that crowd will let him have it. As a flip side to that argument, it's also the easiest place for him to do some image rehab. The golf bro/golf twitter guy is the quintessential person who sits in the crowd at 16. Could you imagine if he and his caddy showed up with Patrick Reed branded pails and shovels and gave them to the crowd? Everyone would be like, "he's in on the joke" and it could all go away. I thought the cheater yell was out of line personally and was done just to "get over" as a fan, much in the same way that kinda stuff happens with pro wrestling crowds. It's dumb and doesn't make you look cool, guy. Also, if you're going to do it, man up and do it as he's finishing his round in the first place, not on the third play-off hole. Mr. 82, fixyurdivot, tony@CIC and 3 others 6 Quote In a Hoofer Lite bag TSR2, 10 degrees, A1 setting, Fujikara Speeder NX Blue 50-S Stealth, 15 degrees, VA Composites Nemesys 70-S E722, 19 degrees, Oban Devotion 80-S JPX 921 Hot Metal Pro 4-P, Nippon 950GH Stiff Flex CBX Zipcore 50* (bent to *49) and RTX Zipcore Tour Rack 54* (bent to *55), DG 115 Spinner, Tour Issue Staff Model TG 60*, Dynamic Gold 120 S300 SIK Golf Flo-C Tour B-XS (2022 Model) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGoBlue100 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 As aware of cameras that these guys are (and especially PReed, LOL) it’s hard for me to believe that any player would intentionally make the mistake he made at Tiger’s event. I’m willing to take his explanation as is. There’s some history with Reed to be sure, but I wasn’t present at those instances, so it’s all hearsay to me. As to the moron who felt it necessary to yell from the grandstand: 1) At least he waited a split second until the ball was off the putter. 2) If he’s SO bold, say it to the player’s face instead of from the anonymity of the crowd. and 3) That person should never be allowed back into the Sentry (or any other PGA Tour event) ever again. #NoClass Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy tony@CIC, Kenny B and Mr. 82 3 Quote "Where'd it go?" "Right in the Lumberyard..." Gen 2 0811 XF 10.5* Graphite Design Tour AD DI-6x Gen 2 0211 15* 3W Mitsubishi Tensei Raw Blue 65-S Tour B JGR 15* Fairway UST ProForce V2 7F5 76g X-Flex (These two are gonna fight it out in early "24 to see who stays in the bag...) Tour B JGR 19* & 22* Hybrid UST ProForce V2 90g X-Flex Tour B JGR HF-2 irons (5i - PW) KBS Tour 130x CBX Wedges (50, 54, 58) TT Dynamic Gold 115 Wedge Shaft MATI Mamo Putter 33" Super Stroke Football League 3.0 Slim Hoofer Camo Stand Bag Precision Pro Nexus Rangefinder FAN! PRO Member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, hckymeyer said: There is definitely a line to heckling. In golf that line is probably much closer than any of the other major sports. I'm with TR1PTIK though, if it's not mid swing and interfering with the shot then have at it. I'm also not a fan of heckling based on things a player can't control. Don't rag on someone for the way they look, swing, talk etc... But ragging on someone for cheating is free reign in my opinion. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. It's gonna take a long time before everyone moves on from this one. I really hope he plays in the Waste Management because that crowd will let him have it. The problem is people think he should have been punished more than what the rules say his penalty was. Everyone want to be judge, jury and executioner. Mr. 82 and bens197 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 From PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan... “Golf is a game of honor and integrity, and you've heard from Patrick,” Monahan said. “I've had an opportunity to talk to Patrick at length, and I believe Patrick when he says that [he] did not intentionally improve [his] lie. And so you go back to that moment, and the conversation that he had with [rules official] Slugger [White], and the fact that a violation was applied and he agreed to it, and they signed his card and he moved on. "To me, that was the end of the matter.” And this should be the end of the matter, but it won't be as long as the media keeps it alive. Quit talking about it, and it will die. However, some in the sports industries love the villain. I heard that Reed will not be at the Waste Management Phoenix Open, opting instead to go to the Abu Dhabi HSBC with Koepka, Cantley and DeChambeau. silver & black, bens197, Mr. 82 and 3 others 5 1 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Kenny B said: From PGA Tour Commissioner Jay Monahan... “Golf is a game of honor and integrity, and you've heard from Patrick,” Monahan said. “I've had an opportunity to talk to Patrick at length, and I believe Patrick when he says that [he] did not intentionally improve [his] lie. And so you go back to that moment, and the conversation that he had with [rules official] Slugger [White], and the fact that a violation was applied and he agreed to it, and they signed his card and he moved on. "To me, that was the end of the matter.” And this should be the end of the matter, but it won't be as long as the media keeps it alive. Quit talking about it, and it will die. However, some in the sports industries love the villain. I heard that Reed will not be at the Waste Management Phoenix Open, opting instead to go to the Abu Dhabi HSBC with Koepka, Cantley and DeChambeau. Good stuff Kenny! I think the Waste Management event is the worst event on the PGA Tour... any tour for that matter. It has become the antithesis of what the game and the standard by which spectators should conduct themselves - at least from my perspective. It is no real surprise to me which players are opting not to participate. Mr. 82, tony@CIC and Kenny B 3 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 53 minutes ago, fixyurdivot said: Good stuff Kenny! I think the Waste Management event is the worst event on the PGA Tour... any tour for that matter. It has become the antithesis of what the game and the standard by which spectators should conduct themselves - at least from my perspective. It is no real surprise to me which players are opting not to participate. I like it because I can get free Marshal passes, and I played the final 4 holes in -1 once!!! Mr. 82, tony@CIC, fixyurdivot and 2 others 5 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kenny B said: I like it because I can get free Marshal passes, and I played the final 4 holes in -1 once!!! Marshalling and Waste Management seem mutually exclusive. A "quiet please" paddle akin to bringing a knife to a gunfight . Kenny B, tony@CIC, sirchunksalot and 2 others 3 2 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens197 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Tolerated behavior becomes the standard. If the Tour will continue to allow clowns to yell and scream, there is no limit to what we’ll hear. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Kenny B, sixcat, Mr. 82 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Titleist TSi3 Fujikura Speeder NX Blue 60X TaylorMade SIM2 3 wood Fujilkura Ventus Blue 7-X Titleist U505 2 Tensei 1K Black 85 X Titleist T100 4-P Nippon Modus 3 120X PING S159 50-S 55-H 59-T DG X100 Vokey SM8 50, SM9 54 & 60 Nippon Modus 3 120s L.A.B. MEZZ Max Broom Accra 47" 79.5* Srixon Z-Star XV Currently testing the 2024 PING S159 wedges… https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/63483-testers-announced-ping-s159-wedges/ Was testing, still loving the 2023 Titleist T100 Irons 4-P https://forum.mygolfspy.com/topic/60456-titleist-t-series-irons-2023-forum-review/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickp Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I don’t get people’s need to heckle anyone regardless of sport or action. How bad is ones self esteem they have to rag on someone to feel good about themselves or act like they got the better of the person. Also don’t get why anyone cares. Whose life is affected by either Reeds actions intentional or not or if the guy was right or wrong to heckle him? i get it that it’s a good forum and the season is still not really under way but that event is in the past and life goes on. Wish society to get back to just booing bad plays, cheering good ones and if you don’t like something avoid it. need more positivity than negativity in the worldHave to agree with you on this. I went to a Sports events today cheer my Team, not bash the opposition.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy fixyurdivot and Mr. 82 2 Quote Rick Left Hand, Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior 5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr 5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2 Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2 Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56* Putter; Waaay too many to list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB13 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) I’m with @GSwag here. Like most of you have said, nobody BUT Reed would get this reception after what happened at the Hero. And why is that? Well, because he has a reputation. If it happened to someone with a clean past, we could chalk it up to a honest mistake and move on. But since Reed is a notorious cheater, he deserves to have the moniker follow him around for a while. I also don’t mind him being called out for being a cheater. If you cheat, you need to be prepared for the consequences. I think people should be allowed to voice their opinion on someone whether or not those opinions are positive. The only thing I have a problem with is that we continue to drag Reed’s family matters into this. It should in no way affect our opinions of him as a golfer. While I agree the optics of his family aren’t great, I know firsthand how much things can get twisted. I personally don’t have a relationship with my father, and if y’all were to only hear from him, you’d receive a completely inaccurate portrait of him and me. He was an abuser, emotionally and otherwise, but if you heard from him, he’d portray himself as a saint, and wonderful father. This isn’t/wasn’t the case, but you wouldn’t know that just hearing from him. So please, stop bringing personal matters into a public setting. Nothing good comes of it, and we will likely never have the full story. Edited January 8, 2020 by GB13 sirchunksalot, TR1PTIK, bens197 and 5 others 8 Quote Wilson Staff C300 9.0* Fujikura Pro 58 stiff Callaway Rogue 3W Mitsubishi Diamana D+ LTD 80 stiff Mizuno MP-18 MMC FLI-HI 2 iron UST Mamiya Recoil 95 stiff Ping I200's 4-W Aerotech Steelfiber I110 CW stiff Ping Glide 52* and 58* stiff Bettinardi Studio Stock #38 Armlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perseveringgolfer Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Rickp said: Have to agree with you on this. I went to a Sports events today cheer my Team, not bash the opposition. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy you should come to a football match here in the UK, the organised hatred and disgusting vile abuse thrown at the opposition would make a Navy Seal blush! I took my young son to a local game a few years back, his face was in shock with what he heard.........at one point the police had to tell the guys in front of us to calm it or get removed. We left at half time! Remember Colin Montgomery used to get very badly heckled particularly in the States, all of it personal. Takes a certain type not to take it personally or not affect his game. We all want to be liked, even on here, but it only takes 1 or 2 individuals with an uncalled for throw away comment to start down a slippery slope. Usually these people are craving for attention and are narcissistic. I spent decades in psychology and these are 99.9 times out of 100 the reason. I have noticed golf crowds over here are fighting back -not literally- but will say something to anyone acting out of line in the crowd, if they challenge back then more get involved. Mr. 82, Kenny B, TR1PTIK and 2 others 5 Quote Driver Awaiting NEW Driver (after 10 yrs) 4 Wood Callaway Big Bertha Steelhead plus 4+ Callaway shaft in 'Firm' flex Hybrid Titleist 910H 19* Diamana ahina 'flower' shaft in 'S' Irons Mizuno MP18SC 4-PW N.S Pro Modus3 Tour 105 in 'S' Wedges Callaway Mack Daddy forged in black 50* and 54* KBS Tour in 'R' Putter 'YES' Tracy 11 C groove 34.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The heckling may get worse with golf betting. As to Reed,.relative to the family comments, that has nothing to do with golf, but journalists today with latch on any negative story to get peoples attention. Remember ladies and gentlemen there are always 2 sides to a story. GB13, Kenny B and josmi15 3 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, tony@CIC said: The heckling may get worse with golf betting. As to Reed,.relative to the family comments, that has nothing to do with golf, but journalists today with latch on any negative story to get peoples attention. Remember ladies and gentlemen there are always 2 sides to a story. My aunt lived next door to the Reed's in Augusta for about 7 years while PR was in college and for a few years after. All I will say is, the general public certainly only has one side of the story. Sean O'Hair was willing to tell his side of the story and gained some sympathetic press in the process. Reed has never been willing to air his dirty laundry in public so, the media (especially the Shipnuck piece) hammers the only side they have available. In my opinion, it's irresponsible journalism but that's just me. Either way, PR needs to deal with his issues with the help of professionals or he will continue to be his own worst enemy. TR1PTIK, Kenny B, josmi15 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josmi15 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The heckling may get worse with golf betting. As to Reed,.relative to the family comments, that has nothing to do with golf, but journalists today with latch on any negative story to get peoples attention. Remember ladies and gentlemen there are always 2 sides to a story. Totally agree with the two sides to every story. I personally am a fan of Reed. I don’t like what they hollered towards him. We should all just appreciate that we’re in an age of some spectacular golf. Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy fixyurdivot and tony@CIC 2 Quote Titleist 917D2 10.5 Ben Hogan GS53 3 Wood PING G425 MAX 5 Wood Cleveland UHX Launcher 3 Iron PING G30 5-PW Cleveland RTX 3.0 50/10 V-MG Cleveland RTX 3.0 54/14 V-FG Cleveland RTX 3.0 58/12 V -FG EVNROLL ER-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Every good show has a villain. Reed is falling nicely into the spot and seems to be running with it. He seems (I say seems because I do not know the guy) to have a complete crap attitude but the guy is as mentally strong as anyone ever out there. He has the game to not need to cheat, but still does. Maybe it is just that he wants to win so badly he loses his mind. If your not cheating your not trying kinda thing. He seems to make a lot of bad PR moves, and it appears he is even not liked on tour so there may be a bit of fire to the smoke. He does make things more interesting when he is near the top. You can feel the dislike for him through the TV. TR1PTIK, josmi15, fixyurdivot and 1 other 4 Quote Driver: Callaway Paradym Triple diamond 10.5 Ventus black TR 6x 3 wood ; Callaway Paradym triple diamond 15 degree, Ventus black TR 7x Apex UW 19 degree, Ventus black TR 8x Utility Iron: Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4 utility, Ventus blue HB 90X Irons: Callaway Apex MB 5-PW, KBS $ taper 130x Wedges: Callaway Jaws Raw 50, 54, 58, KBS $ taper 130x Putter: Wilson Staff TM22, hand torched, KBS cutter putter shaft, Super stroke Pistol GT 1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, josmi15 said: We should all just appreciate that we’re in an age of some spectacular golf. And spectacular golf was what Patrick provided us spectators. Brendan Chamblee stated something to the effect that Reeds final round performance at The Sentry was among the best he'd ever seen from a scrambling, grind it out perspective. I don't recall what his one putt numbers were - only that he was double digits ahead of the field. I really admire his ability to scramble... round situations I can relate too . Rickp, Kenny B, tony@CIC and 1 other 4 Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) AI-One Milled Seven T CH (Currently Under Product Test) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. 82 Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Now ESPN has decided to join this conversation. https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/28435292/patrick-reed-latest-controversy-other-things-golf-matter-right-now Quote G400 Driver XR 4 Fairway 16.5° Fli-Hi Utility Iron - 21° G Series 5-9 irons SM7 46°, 50°, 54° & 58° Ghost Spider S putter Nexus Laser Rangefinder Garmin Approach S20 GPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkev Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 And Reed has his lawyer send a cease and desist order to Chamblee - not a wise PR move at all. The best way to end the heckling is to join in and have fun with it or else ignore it. The more you try and stop it the worse it will get. I’ve stated this on numerous occasions - Unless you know the person, you don’t. I don’t root for players because I think they are great guys. If I did Mickey Mantle and Lawrence Taylor would not be two of my favorites. As for heckling I’m one who has no issue with it so long as it doesn’t interfere with a players swing. It’s always existed in other sports. If you want golf to be more popular you can’t have it both ways. Personally I no longer engage in it (and never had in golf.). I could talk some smack as a catcher though - it was always good natured and never personal. But Ive been the object of personal attacks on the field and in life - you deal with it and move on, Reed just made my naughty list for the law suit - poor move IMO. He and Justin Thomas should be a permanent pairing. :) Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy russtopherb and GB13 2 Quote Taylor Made Stealth 2 10.5 Diamana S plus 60 Aldila R flex - 42.25 inches SMT 4 wood bassara R flex, four wood head, 3 wood shaft Ping G410 7, 9 wood Alta 65 R flex Srixon ZX5 MK II 5-GW - UST recoil Dart 65 R flex India 52,56 (60 pending) UST recoil 75's R flex Evon roll ER 5 32 inches It's our offseason so auditioning candidates - looking for that right mix of low spin long, more spin around the greens - TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixcat Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I will reserve judgement on this latest fiasco for the time being. We don't know who gave the order to distribute such a letter. It's very possible, Reed's wife or in-laws did something without his knowledge. It's also possible Reed's lawyer is seeking his own 15 minutes of fame and "leaked" the information to the media. Granted, Reed's attorney is his employee. Therefore, Reed is ultimately responsible for the actions of those around him, including the lawyer, his wife and in-laws. Mitigating circumstances always change perception. I'm sure more will come out given Reed seems to be in the 24-hour golf news cycle in perpetuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 A very good read on Reed---at least IMO. A lot more in depth than some pieces that have been written. https://www.golfdigest.com/story/patrick-reed-needs-to-rethink-his-approach-because-the-bad-days-arent-going-away sixcat 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfspy_CG2 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, sixcat said: I will reserve judgement on this latest fiasco for the time being. We don't know who gave the order to distribute such a letter. It's very possible, Reed's wife or in-laws did something without his knowledge. It's also possible Reed's lawyer is seeking his own 15 minutes of fame and "leaked" the information to the media. Granted, Reed's attorney is his employee. Therefore, Reed is ultimately responsible for the actions of those around him, including the lawyer, his wife and in-laws. Mitigating circumstances always change perception. I'm sure more will come out given Reed seems to be in the 24-hour golf news cycle in perpetuity. As an addendum to my post above with the Feinstein article. It was written before the letter from the attorney obviously. But he--Feinstein--said this morning, it was a huge mistake on Reeds and the attorneys part. sixcat 1 Quote G430 Max 10K TSiR1 15.0 Aldlia Ascent 60g TSR2 18.0 PX Aldila Ascent 6og TSi1 20 Aldila Ascent Shafts R T350 5-GW SteelFiber I80 SM10 48F/54M and58K S159 48S/52S/56W/60B Select 5.5 Flowback 35" ProV1 Play number 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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