PXG Gen3 Irons

[FrogginBullfish]

Head on over to PXG's website to take a look at their new Gen3 line of irons.

 

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[FrogginBullfish]

Here's Tony's cover story on them.

https://mygolfspy.com/pxg-0311-gen3-iron-review/

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[FrogginBullfish]

And Chris' cover story on PXG's new line of milled and forged wedges.

https://mygolfspy.com/first-look-pxg-sugar-daddy-0311-milled-and-0311-forged-wedges/

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[bens197]

“The grumbling doesn’t matter,” says Bob Parsons, PXG’s Founder and CEO. “The grumblers, as best as I can tell, for the most part, aren’t our customers.” If you’re still grumbling, PXG isn’t for you.

 

I loved that. He knows his market and his audience and I truly believe there is a segment in the market for his product.

 

He’s doing something right, I would love to be able to give his clubs a shot.

 

 

 

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[FrogginBullfish]

Agreed. As much as others want to grumble about how much their clubs cost, PXG is doing something different and they're not worried about, nor should they be, what people who'd never buy their clubs think.

What I'm finding fascinating is the process they're going through with these irons. Five separate molds per iron forging, CNC milled back, robotic polishing and the new weld process. And that's not to mention the two different polymer inserts which they can't inject into the cavity.

I'd love to bag a set of these.

“The grumbling doesn’t matter,” says Bob Parsons, PXG’s Founder and CEO. “The grumblers, as best as I can tell, for the most part, aren’t our customers.” If you’re still grumbling, PXG isn’t for you.
 
I loved that. He knows his market and his audience and I truly believe there is a segment in the market for his product.
 
He’s doing something right, I would love to be able to give his clubs a shot.
 
 
 
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[edingc]

Price aside, these look awesome. Some very cool technology in those heads. 

[FrogginBullfish]

Ugh, here we go again.

"You have to be absolutely off your rocker to pay $3000 for a 7pc set of irons when you can get virtually the same thing for about $800. If the name on the club is more important than the technology within, then maybe you should consider using the other $2200 to see a shrink. "

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[bens197]

Ugh, here we go again. 

 

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"You have to be absolutely off your rocker to pay $3000 for a 7pc set of irons when you can get virtually the same thing for about $800. If the name on the club is more important than the technology within, then maybe you should consider using the other $2200 to see a shrink. "

 

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Good business plan...berate others to differentiate yourself as an emerging brand

 

Today, their Twitter feed will be on damage control mode.

[FrogginBullfish]

It won't. He does this every time PXG releases new clubs and then pretends it's not about them. I've called him out about it multiple times and he keeps doing it pretending like he's not referring to PXG, when everybody knows that is exactly who he means.

 
Good business plan...berate others to differentiate yourself as an emerging brand
 
Today, their Twitter feed will be on damage control mode.

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[Golfspy_CG2]

1 hour ago, FrogginBullfish said:

It won't. He does this every time PXG releases new clubs and then pretends it's not about them. I've called him out about it multiple times and he keeps doing it pretending like he's not referring to PXG, when everybody knows that is exactly who he means.

 

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If there was such a category for OEM Trolls, he'd be the poster child. 

[TR1PTIK]

New Level made sure I’d never be a customer!

[TR1PTIK]

It’s not that I’m a PXG devotee or anything, but when a brand tries to shame consumers it’s just a bad look. Besides that, there’s no way the two clubs compare - certainly not from a manufacturing viewpoint.

[JonMUSC08]

Though i will prolly never own PXG bc im not rich haha... I am intrigued with their business model and approach. But also find them kinda crazy for making $3000 irons.

Interesting article from MGS though. The XP provide lower spin but more distance/carry for a club that is nearly identical to the P. Maybe the work-ability is much greater on the P's

I'd love to try these one day.

[Quigleyd]

I thought PXG was going out of business.... 

 

@new level golf. C'mon guys don't be like that!! There is no need. 

[PMookie]

I’ll say this: my fitting in Florida last year really opened my eyes to PXG clubs. The fitter was awesome, a former college player at OK St, and what we came-up with was legit from a performance standpoint. Significantly better numbers in consistency than my Ping i210. The irons and driver really performed for me. I couldn’t afford the irons, but the driver I could. That fitting showed me I needed to look for better irons than what I had!


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[RickyBobby_PR]

9 hours ago, JonMUSC08 said:

Though i will prolly never own PXG bc im not rich haha... I am intrigued with their business model and approach. But also find them kinda crazy for making $3000 irons.

Interesting article from MGS though. The XP provide lower spin but more distance/carry for a club that is nearly identical to the P. Maybe the work-ability is much greater on the P's

I'd love to try these one day.

When it costs ~$240k for the molds to make an entire set x3 sets in left handed and another 3 in right handed the costs to sell are going to be high. Several other high end boutique brands fall into similar price range. 

[FrogginBullfish]

Based on Tony's piece, the mold costs for each of the new iron sets in the PXG range is something like half a million per iron.

Each of the 3 irons in the range offer up to 9 irons. With 5 molds per iron, at upwards of $10k a mold, that's $450,000 minimum in mold costs.

Now obviously they're using the molds more than once but it's also fairly obvious that when a company is putting at least a half million into just shaping one line in their new range of product, that product is going to be expensive.

And that doesn't even cover the costs to make the DualCOR materials and the other steps in the manufacturing process, but if old reports from the 2017 P790s and Gen1 PXGs hold any water, it cost TM $14 to make a batch of SpeedFoam, where PXG spent $100 to make a batch of the TPE they used. I'd hazard the DualCOR materials cost more than double that of the TPE.

PXG can obviously make clubs at a much cheaper price range, but that's not the point of what they're doing as a company. Bob Parsons got Brad Schweigert and Mike Nicolette to leave Ping with the promise they could make clubs with no financial limitations. They're doing exactly that.

It's like arguing that Pagani, or other high-end car manufacturers who handbuild, can make their cars cheaper and at a faster rate with an assembly line. Well, obviously, but that's not the point.

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