Quigleyd 811 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Kor.A.Door said: No, huge failure is putting a ball to market that is not good quality. I agree. I probably shouldn't have said anything. I just didn't think it was a big issue and they were working hard to get it right. I think they are really trying to put out a quality product. From what I am hearing it is an amazing ball and will be pretty revolutionary. As with all things revolutionary in nature. They can be difficult to get all the bugs out at first. I really think other than some initial delays this is a none issue. 2 Quote Driver: SIM 9 Motore X F1 7X tipped 1 inch Utility Iron: Cobra King Utility irons 18 degree Aldila rogue 90 X Irons: Cobra King forged CB 4-PW KBS $ Taper 130 X Wedges: Cleveland 49,52.58.64 Putter: Kronos Release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR 9,536 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Kor.A.Door said: No, huge failure is putting a ball to market that is not good quality. Im with you. It’s not a good look for Callaway but also how many golfers actually know this is going on. I’ll say only those on here and those who work in retail of some sorts. It would be much worse for them if they put it out and there were issues of any kind but a large scale issue would crush their potential sales. If they fix the issue before they are offered at retail it’s no biggie. If they hit delays for the proposed date then it starts to become an issue, but again how many golfers outside of forums, social media groups and maybe golf digest even know a new ball is due out in March 1 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door 5,843 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Quigleyd said: I agree. I probably shouldn't have said anything. I just didn't think it was a big issue and they were working hard to get it right. I think they are really trying to put out a quality product. From what I am hearing it is an amazing ball and will be pretty revolutionary. As with all things revolutionary in nature. They can be difficult to get all the bugs out at first. I really think other than some initial delays this is a none issue. I love the Chrome Soft, it is my ball of choice. I switched to Bridgestone BXS for a bit last season, but it just didn’t work. I switched back to Black and Yellow and won’t change again. I am lookin forward to trying the new CSX but the ball I am comfortable with is the CS. Quality should override deadlines. Edited February 18, 2020 by Kor.A.Door Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd 811 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, Kor.A.Door said: I love the Chrome Soft, it is my ball of choice. I switched to Bridgestone BXS for a bit last season, but it just didn’t work. I switched back to Black and Yellow and won’t change again. I am lookin forward to trying the new CSX but the ball I am comfortable with is the CS. Quality should override deadlines. Agreed, again I was not trying to bash Callaway. I am excited for this ball. Quote Driver: SIM 9 Motore X F1 7X tipped 1 inch Utility Iron: Cobra King Utility irons 18 degree Aldila rogue 90 X Irons: Cobra King forged CB 4-PW KBS $ Taper 130 X Wedges: Cleveland 49,52.58.64 Putter: Kronos Release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door 5,843 Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Quigleyd said: Agreed, again I was not trying to bash Callaway. I am excited for this ball. I can tell you are just putting information out there. Others though, can’t bash Callaway enough. 2 Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor 732 Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 15 hours ago, Quigleyd said: Agreed, again I was not trying to bash Callaway. I am excited for this ball. i used the CS 2 summers ago and it was one of the best all around balls for me. I loved it. Then i read about the issues. I wanted to use the ball again, but didnt want to spend the money on something that "may" not be a real quality product. I was excited for the new version. Since then I have tried BXS, TP5 and of course Prov.....all are fine and the TP5 is really good as is the prov1, but i played my best with the CS. Not sure why......im hoping they get it right but if any of this is true, its big. And why would a rep put that out there? makes no sense. Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR 9,536 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 A rep would put it out there for multiple reasons. Some being the person running a pro shop asked when they will be getting the new balls in and the rep tells that person about the issues and lets him know there could be a delay. The same pro shop person mentions he can’t wait to try the new ball or tells the rep he has customers looking for the new ball and asks for an update. Communication from reps to the retail accounts happens all the time and a good rep keeps his accounts up to speed on things. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door 5,843 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Tsecor said: i used the CS 2 summers ago and it was one of the best all around balls for me. I loved it. Then i read about the issues. I wanted to use the ball again, but didnt want to spend the money on something that "may" not be a real quality product. I was excited for the new version. Since then I have tried BXS, TP5 and of course Prov.....all are fine and the TP5 is really good as is the prov1, but i played my best with the CS. Not sure why......im hoping they get it right but if any of this is true, its big. And why would a rep put that out there? makes no sense. I did the same thing. I know that I hit some poor shots, no matter what ball I use. The CS performs for me, so I switched back, and haven’t had any problems. If I hit a ball 50 yards to the left, is it the ball or is it me. Or did I only really hit it 35 yards left, the ball was the other 15, either way, the ball is in he woods pretty deep. From what I am reading here it is only the CSX that is the issue, the New CS has passed the New QC process and is good to go. Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor.A.Door 5,843 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Saw the pre order for the new Chrome soft is available Quote Lefties are always in their Right Mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkittlesen 353 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 It would behove Callaway to incentivize by discount or some other means? Quote Rouge Draw 13.5 Lite Flex 913H 24 degree Diamana Lite Flex Idea Pro a12 20 degree Aldila VS Proto Regular Flex MP 100 4 - PW Stiff DGS 300 Mack Daddy 2 TG 52/10, RG 56/10 and TG 60/10 2014 Select Newport 2 33 " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkittlesen 353 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Just got this in the mail. http://www.mggolf.com/offers/call/ Quote Rouge Draw 13.5 Lite Flex 913H 24 degree Diamana Lite Flex Idea Pro a12 20 degree Aldila VS Proto Regular Flex MP 100 4 - PW Stiff DGS 300 Mack Daddy 2 TG 52/10, RG 56/10 and TG 60/10 2014 Select Newport 2 33 " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR 9,536 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Two interesting things with this release. Having a separate release for cs and another for csx. No other ball company separates their same year ball release. We know the issues with the csx that @Quigleyd talked about so why not wait til those are resolved. There’s already doubt in the consumers mind and doing a split release won’t convince the doubters and may add fuel to the fire. Second the one thing people used to justify the purchase of cs or csx was they were cheaper than titleist. That is no longer the case. So now there’s a new version coming off a bad publicity year that’s the same price as the ball that’s been #1 for a long time. 2 Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd 811 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Two interesting things with this release. Having a separate release for cs and another for csx. No other ball company separates their same year ball release. We know the issues with the csx that @Quigleyd talked about so why not wait til those are resolved. There’s already doubt in the consumers mind and doing a split release won’t convince the doubters and may add fuel to the fire. Second the one thing people used to justify the purchase of cs or csx was they were cheaper than titleist. That is no longer the case. So now there’s a new version coming off a bad publicity year that’s the same price as the ball that’s been #1 for a long time. Well, I am both glad I knew what was talking about and a little bummed by it. I am hearing a May release for the CSX. 1 Quote Driver: SIM 9 Motore X F1 7X tipped 1 inch Utility Iron: Cobra King Utility irons 18 degree Aldila rogue 90 X Irons: Cobra King forged CB 4-PW KBS $ Taper 130 X Wedges: Cleveland 49,52.58.64 Putter: Kronos Release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR 9,536 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Quigleyd said: Well, I am both glad I knew what was talking about and a little bummed by it. I am hearing a May release for the CSX. A May release will only add to the speculation and doubts about the brand. Imo not a good look coming off the ball study and finditcutit issues. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 1,433 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 We also have to realize that as much as we all want our golf supplies, the season has not yet really started for a lot of us. I think it's a good thing Callaway is holding out to get it right! They know another sub par ball will destroy their golf ball market place. Hell, just look at what MGS was able to do to them last year in the market. Callaway cannot afford that kind of bad press again. Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd 811 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, ballplayer002003 said: We also have to realize that as much as we all want our golf supplies, the season has not yet really started for a lot of us. I think it's a good thing Callaway is holding out to get it right! They know another sub par ball will destroy their golf ball market place. Hell, just look at what MGS was able to do to them last year in the market. Callaway cannot afford that kind of bad press again. Totally agree. Especially since they raised the price on the ball. $47.99 is a lot to ask for there to be a single issue. I don’t have a problem with it being delayed. I like the new BXS anyway. Quote Driver: SIM 9 Motore X F1 7X tipped 1 inch Utility Iron: Cobra King Utility irons 18 degree Aldila rogue 90 X Irons: Cobra King forged CB 4-PW KBS $ Taper 130 X Wedges: Cleveland 49,52.58.64 Putter: Kronos Release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 1,433 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Quigleyd said: Totally agree. Especially since they raised the price on the ball. $47.99 is a lot to ask for there to be a single issue. I don’t have a problem with it being delayed. I like the new BXS anyway. I played the CSX two years ago and liked the feel I got. When the MGS ball test came out, I switched over the the Bridgestone BXS. I like this ball and think I will try the new ones out soon. Actually looking forward to hitting the new BSX. I honestly feel though that Callaway knows they are under a microscope here so when the new CSX come out, they will be pretty decent...they have to be! Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor 732 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 at $48 a dzn, ill probably pass this year.... They could make a splash if they offer a by 2 get 1 free......that would go a long way after their horrible QC issues were discovered. 1 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigleyd 811 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, ballplayer002003 said: I played the CSX two years ago and liked the feel I got. When the MGS ball test came out, I switched over the the Bridgestone BXS. I like this ball and think I will try the new ones out soon. Actually looking forward to hitting the new BSX. I honestly feel though that Callaway knows they are under a microscope here so when the new CSX come out, they will be pretty decent...they have to be! I have heard it is an awesome ball. Just very difficult to produce on a mass level. 1 Quote Driver: SIM 9 Motore X F1 7X tipped 1 inch Utility Iron: Cobra King Utility irons 18 degree Aldila rogue 90 X Irons: Cobra King forged CB 4-PW KBS $ Taper 130 X Wedges: Cleveland 49,52.58.64 Putter: Kronos Release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballplayer002003 1,433 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, Tsecor said: at $48 a dzn, ill probably pass this year.... They could make a splash if they offer a by 2 get 1 free......that would go a long way after their horrible QC issues were discovered. I could see them doing some kind of big rollout like that, especially since they will be last to market. They will have to have some kind of incentive for us to switch back to them. If I buy 3-4 dozen Bridgestones now, and Callaway comes out in May with these at $48, what is the incentive I have to spend the money on them when I already have balls? I think, or I hope they realize this. 1 Quote Driver: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g 3 Wood: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff 5 Wood : Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff 4 Hybrid: Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff Irons: 5-7 Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X 9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X Wedges: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex Putter: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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