LeftyHawk Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Tsecor said: yes, but 25 yards? WOW With the older RX I was consistent at about 220 on my tee shots. With the new RX I was consistently around 245. I had to varify that with the guys I was with because quite frankly I couldn't believe it. The other thing was I was straighter off the tee also. I can't wait until I can get a couple of dozen of the new RX. Chris Quote Far and Sure...... GBB Epic 11* GBB Epic 7W (Heavenwood) : G410 4 thru GW MD3 54*,60* Huntington Beach Soft #4 Tour B RX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Carl Spackler Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 I just bought a dozen B XS to test, my usual ball is the Pro V1x. So far I've only had time to play nine and spend some time at a short game practice area, but initial impressions, at least for me specifically, is it is quite similar to what I already use. B XS is noticeably softer feeling and sounding, especially off the putter. Pro V1x may have just a touch more bite from 30-40 yards, but I may have to revisit this when the greens aren't dormant. Full shots appear to be quite similar in terms of ball flight, really hard to tell if any distance was gained though. Will stay tuned to the thread and the MGS testing, and continue to test on my own. GolfSpy BOS and sirchunksalot 2 Quote In my Hoofer Lite bag TSi2 driver 10° w/ Tensei AV Raw White 75 917F2 3 wood 15° w/ Diamana Blue 70 H16 hybrid 19° w/ Diamana Blue 70 MP-20 HMB irons w/ KBS $-Taper 120 wedges, 56° SM6, 52° SM6, and 47° SM7 - soon to be fitted for new ones ER2 putter Pro V1x #42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 23 hours ago, Fake Carl Spackler said: I just bought a dozen B XS to test, my usual ball is the Pro V1x. So far I've only had time to play nine and spend some time at a short game practice area, but initial impressions, at least for me specifically, is it is quite similar to what I already use. B XS is noticeably softer feeling and sounding, especially off the putter. Pro V1x may have just a touch more bite from 30-40 yards, but I may have to revisit this when the greens aren't dormant. Full shots appear to be quite similar in terms of ball flight, really hard to tell if any distance was gained though. Will stay tuned to the thread and the MGS testing, and continue to test on my own. You should test the BX vs the PV1X.....they are more similar Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hckymeyer Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 1/21/2020 at 9:19 AM, jlukes said: Anxious to try the X and XS. The online ball fitting tool bounces me between the two depending on very slight adjustments I make on certain parameters. I am concerned about getting TOO much spin with the XS. I'm in the same boat, right on the bubble between the two depending how I'm swinging that day. I had an interaction via Twitter with Bridgestone and the only question they asked was if I preferred a softer or firmer feel. I said firmer and they recommended the X. Now I'm just debating if I go all in or start with a dozen and try them. Really hoping they have some sort of promo for the spring. I could go for a buy 3 get 1 deal like Titleist does every year. Quote Driver: SLDR w/ Fujikura Ventus Black 3w: '16 M2 hl w/ Diamana D+ 82 5w: Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Yellow Hybrid: 22 deg. Launcher HB w/ HZRDUS Black Irons: 5i - gap Launcher CBX w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Wedges: 54 CBX & 58 Zipcore w/ Nippon Modus 3 125 Putter: Red 7s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, hckymeyer said: I'm in the same boat, right on the bubble between the two depending how I'm swinging that day. I had an interaction via Twitter with Bridgestone and the only question they asked was if I preferred a softer or firmer feel. I said firmer and they recommended the X. Now I'm just debating if I go all in or start with a dozen and try them. Really hoping they have some sort of promo for the spring. I could go for a buy 3 get 1 deal like Titleist does every year. I decided on the X. After seeing the TXG video on the two it confirmed that the balls perform the same off the irons and wedges, yet X, because it is firmer, its faster off the driver. Their testing confirmed what I was seeing. XS feels better, but doesn't perform any different around the greens for a me. So I went with the X hckymeyer, RickyBobby_PR and GolfSpy BOS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 Id really like to see a breakdown of the new BXS and TP5. The Reactive shell sounds ALOT like the TP5 HFH shell...... PMookie 1 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, Tsecor said: Id really like to see a breakdown of the new BXS and TP5. The Reactive shell sounds ALOT like the TP5 HFH shell...... The best breakdown is individual testing on the course. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 17 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said: The best breakdown is individual testing on the course. im talking about the ball itself, its components...not on course testing Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tsecor said: im talking about the ball itself, its components...not on course testing Why though? All you are going to get is a bunch of marketing terms. Compression, mantles, cores, fast, soft, reactiv, aerodynamic. Etc. All that matters is how a ball performs for you. RickyBobby_PR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tsecor said: im talking about the ball itself, its components...not on course testing Couldn’t you get that from the manufacturers website? Not sure mgs is going to have much more than what’s put out by the brand on their packaging or website Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, jlukes said: Why though? All you are going to get is a bunch of marketing terms. Compression, mantles, cores, fast, soft, reactiv, aerodynamic. Etc. All that matters is how a ball performs for you. why ? Im interested in the tech as well as performance Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tsecor said: why ? Im interested in the tech as well as performance It's all on their websites. RickyBobby_PR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Couldn’t you get that from the manufacturers website? Not sure mgs is going to have much more than what’s put out by the brand on their packaging or website MGS has lots of great insight as to what goes into the tech components of many items. Covey and Co. are masters at breaking things down. Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, jlukes said: It's all on their websites. i understand their own tech is on their websites...thats not what im curious about....but lets move on. this is just useless banter. Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Tsecor said: MGS has lots of great insight as to what goes into the tech components of many items. Covey and Co. are masters at breaking things down. What are they going to tell you that you won’t be able to determine on the course. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Tsecor said: i understand their own tech is on their websites...thats not what im curious about....but lets move on. this is just useless banter. Balls are very different than clubs. Club tech is a lot about material thickness, shape and weight placement. Ball tech is more proprietary material driven, so companies would not be willing to share what exactly is in their core that makes it do what it does. With Bridgestone, we get a "Reactiv" Urethane. With Srixon, we get a "SpinSkin" coating. These companies are going to reveal the actual composition of the technology. If you want to learn about the generic composition of golf balls, it is all over the internet: https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/web/2017/06/s-inside-golf-balls-chemistry.html Quote These days, a golf ball is typically made of a butadiene rubber center surrounded by one or more rubber mantles and topped off with a tough skin. These outer layers are made from blends of high-performance ethylene copolymers known as ionomeric resins, which harden through ionic crosslinking between negatively charged acid groups and positively charged metal salts, such as zinc and sodium salts. This design is favored because the resulting balls have a hard core with an outside that is compressible, or soft, according to the website of DuPont, which has been high on the leader board for golf ball technology for more than 50 years. DuPont’s technology, for example, is being used by Nike under the brand name Speedlock RZN. Other rubber and polymer producers are also collaborating with golf ball manufacturers to make a ball that really flies. Japanese golf ball maker Kasco has been using polymer producer Lanxess’s neodymium polybutadiene rubber in the core of its balls. This material efficiently converts impact energy into kinetic energy and thus enhances flying distance, Lanxess’s website claims. Perhaps the most quintessential part of a golf ball is its pitted coating, which affects how the ball rolls and how it feels when it is hit by a golfer’s club. Dimples also reduce a ball’s drag as it flies through the air. Manufacturers alter the size and number of dimples to adjust performance. PPG, among others, has produced coatings for golf balls. The company has been producing a range of proprietary coating formulations, including scratch-resistant ones made from polyurethane, for companies such as the Titleist balls producer Acushnet for more than a decade. TR1PTIK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: What are they going to tell you that you won’t be able to determine on the course. lol. thank you. some would disagree Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share Posted February 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, jlukes said: Balls are very different than clubs. Club tech is a lot about material thickness, shape and weight placement. Ball tech is more proprietary material driven, so companies would not be willing to share what exactly is in their core that makes it do what it does. With Bridgestone, we get a "Reactiv" Urethane. With Srixon, we get a "SpinSkin" coating. These companies are going to reveal the actual composition of the technology. If you want to learn about the generic composition of golf balls, it is all over the internet: https://cen.acs.org/articles/95/web/2017/06/s-inside-golf-balls-chemistry.html Thank you very much. I appreciate you sending this. I have looked at the generic makeup before and i am definitely interested in the details of these covers... which i probably cant find myself as I am not in the industry. I think with the relationships MGS has, they can probably find out a lot more than I can. When I read about Bridgestones new cover i said to myself " i have read this before" and sure enough, I found that the TP5 line has marketed this in their 2019 lineup.....as Srixon does im sure, but im unfamiliar with their ball marketing. I wonder if HFM and REACTIV are the same but just called two different things......for some reason that has peaked my curiosity PMookie 1 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Koster Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Anyone know if Bridgestone runs the buy 3 dozen get 1 free campaign that Tmade, Srixon, Titleist typically run? And if so anyone know if they run it about the same time as these other manufacturers? Thanks heribertomaya 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted March 4, 2020 Author Share Posted March 4, 2020 Srixon's is great....buy 2 get 1 free.....comes out to just over $2 / ball. The other sales are ~ .60-.70 more per ball during the sales. if bridgestone ran a buy 2 get 1 sale, id be all over it..... heribertomaya 1 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heribertomaya Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Tsecor said: Srixon's is great....buy 2 get 1 free.....comes out to just over $2 / ball. The other sales are ~ .60-.70 more per ball during the sales. if bridgestone ran a buy 2 get 1 sale, id be all over it..... I agree, Bridgestone is the one everyone is salivating about (for the 2 for 3 deal). Srixon are sub-par balls (in my case at least, much shorter than most urethane balls, etc) Quote SIM Driver 9* | Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 70g Epic Flash Sub-Zero 3 Wood | Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 70g MP-20s SEL | Project X LZ 6.0 Jaws MD5 - 50 Degrees | Dynamic Gold S200 RTX 4 56.10 | 60.9 | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 Special Select 2020 - Newport 2 Tour Bx 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 13 hours ago, heribertomaya said: I agree, Bridgestone is the one everyone is salivating about (for the 2 for 3 deal). Srixon are sub-par balls (in my case at least, much shorter than most urethane balls, etc) I dont agree with the srixon being sub par.....maybe you didnt like it but the company and ball is very good. One of the few balls a consumer can buy that is the exact ball used on tour JohnSmalls and Badback 2 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalejbrass Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Tsecor said: I dont agree with the srixon being sub par.....maybe you didnt like it but the company and ball is very good. One of the few balls a consumer can buy that is the exact ball used on tour I'll concur with Tsecor. I've been playing and really liking the Titleist AVX. I was also one of the Bridgestone Ball testers and tested the Tour B X (which I didn't like because it's so hard). Picked up a box of the Srixon Q Star Tour balls last week and played it against the AVX and the Tour BX. The Srixon feels great and just as long or longer (for me) than the Tour BX. I like it so much that I went back for 2 more boxes of Srixon's 2 for 1 deal. JohnSmalls 1 Quote TSR2 - Ventus Red, 6X TSR2 3W - Ventus Red, 7X TSR2 5W - Ventus Red TR, 8X JPX 223 Tour PW-7i/JPX 223 Forged 6i-4i - Nippon Modus 130X MG3 - 50, 54, 58* - Nippon Modus 130X Scotty Cameron Circle T Futura X5 Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heribertomaya Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) people get their feelings all touched-up whenever someone doesnt like "their" brand. SMH. If you aren't the owner/CEO of the brand, why would you care what anyone says about your favorite product. Hard to understand. If I had to reply back each time defending my love for Mizuno, I would be dead by now........ Edited March 6, 2020 by heribertomaya Quote SIM Driver 9* | Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 70g Epic Flash Sub-Zero 3 Wood | Project X Hzrdus Smoke Black 70g MP-20s SEL | Project X LZ 6.0 Jaws MD5 - 50 Degrees | Dynamic Gold S200 RTX 4 56.10 | 60.9 | Dynamic Gold Tour Issue S400 Special Select 2020 - Newport 2 Tour Bx 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trial&Error Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 hours ago, heribertomaya said: people get their feeling all touched whenever doesnt like "their" brand. SMH. If you aren't the owner/CEO of the brand, why would you care what anyone says about your favorite product. Hard to understand. If I had to reply back each time defending my love for Mizuno, I would be dead by now........ I did not quite gather that from the input they gave. Miboy62 and JohnSmalls 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 23 hours ago, heribertomaya said: I agree, Bridgestone is the one everyone is salivating about (for the 2 for 3 deal). Srixon are sub-par balls (in my case at least, much shorter than most urethane balls, etc) That statement is fundamentally untrue. The Zstar XV is one of the longest tour balls made. And their quality is up there with bridgestone and Titleist JohnSmalls, Miboy62, heribertomaya and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 5:54 PM, jlukes said: That statement is fundamentally untrue. The Zstar XV is one of the longest tour balls made. And their quality is up there with bridgestone and Titleist #facts the srixon ball is top notch. heribertomaya and Miboy62 1 1 Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 Yesterday i played a round in what i would call "aggressive wind" conditions. I played the 2020 BXS for half the round and the 2018 BX for the other half. what i noticed were the following 1- the BXS ballooned for me quite a bit on well struck hybrid shots. One fell ~30-yards short of the target. 2- The BXS flew long and felt great in "normal" conditions. 3- the 2018 BX flew much better against the wind. I estimated a 20 yard difference. 4- The 2018 BX felt very hard on even the slightest mishit (low groove hits) 5- Both were very similar around the green. but the greens were extremely hard due to lack of rain and brown surfaces (not and green grass in the northeast just yet) In very calm conditions, i could play either ball but the balloon balls were a major issue for me with my long hybrid shots into the wind Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyBobby_PR Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tsecor said: Yesterday i played a round in what i would call "aggressive wind" conditions. I played the 2020 BXS for half the round and the 2018 BX for the other half. what i noticed were the following 1- the BXS ballooned for me quite a bit on well struck hybrid shots. One fell ~30-yards short of the target. 2- The BXS flew long and felt great in "normal" conditions. 3- the 2018 BX flew much better against the wind. I estimated a 20 yard difference. 4- The 2018 BX felt very hard on even the slightest mishit (low groove hits) 5- Both were very similar around the green. but the greens were extremely hard due to lack of rain and brown surfaces (not and green grass in the northeast just yet) In very calm conditions, i could play either ball but the balloon balls were a major issue for me with my long hybrid shots into the wind Wouldn’t a better comparison be to use the 2018 against the 2020 version of the same ball? You are comparing two different balls from different releases. Quote Driver: PXG 0811 X+ Proto w/UST Helium 5F4 Wood: TaylorMade M5 5W w/Accra TZ5 +1/2”, TaylorMade Sim 3W w/Aldila rogue white Hybrid: PXG Gen2 22* w/AD hybrid Irons: PXG Gen3 0311T w/Nippon modus 120 Wedges: TaylorMade MG2 50*, Tiger grind 56/60 Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1 Ball: Titleist Prov1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsecor Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, RickyBobby_PR said: Wouldn’t a better comparison be to use the 2018 against the 2020 version of the same ball? You are comparing two different balls from different releases. yes but unfortunately i did not have the 2020 BX, only the 2018. And from what most of the testing shows, the 2020 BX isnt so unique enough to make a big difference. Its just observations from my round, not hardcore robot testing or anything so take it for what its worth.....you could play in the same conditions and have totally different outcomes. Quote Golf is cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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