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9 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

yes but unfortunately i did not have the 2020 BX, only the 2018. And from what most of the testing shows, the 2020 BX isnt so unique enough  to make a big difference.  Its just observations from my round, not hardcore robot testing or anything so take it for what its worth.....you could play in the same conditions and have totally different outcomes. 

Agree we could have different results in the same round even if we had same swing speed.

Was trying to understand the comparison being made since it was an apples to apples comparisons between releases

Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S

Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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... It should not be hard to understand at all. You made a reckless statement of fact, not just opinion. You did follow up with a personal opinion which of course is 100% valid and had you done so ini

That statement is fundamentally untrue. The Zstar XV is one of the longest tour balls made.  And their quality is up there with bridgestone and Titleist 

I did some Trackman verification in doing the new ball test, I saw a 2.5 mph increase over the 6th gen Srixon Z Star.  With the additional spin it gave to keep the ball in the air a bit longer, I pick

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Just got my order from Golfballs.com yesterday of the new Bridgestone Tour xs.  They had their buy 3 get 1 free deal.  Can't wait to go hit them, they look sweet!

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   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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On 1/21/2020 at 7:12 AM, Smellis745 said:

I did some Trackman verification in doing the new ball test, I saw a 2.5 mph increase over the 6th gen Srixon Z Star.  With the additional spin it gave to keep the ball in the air a bit longer, I picked up an average of 17 yards carry distance.  Weather has kept me off the course for real world validation, but I'm excited to see what happens.

I’m a big fan of the Z-star, have been for a long time. Excited to give these a try. I’m a big fan of a really high spin, firm ball because the local course has all tabletop greens. Need the ball to sit down quickly even on little shots. It’s then my job to take spin off when I have too by swinging easier. 

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Stats: 5'4", Male, R-Handed, Moderate Tempo, Driver SS 106mph
 

Driver: Ping i25, S-flex PWR 65 shaft
3w/5w: Callaway X-Hot, S-flex Fubuki shafts
3i: FOURTEEN FH-1000, DG X100
4i-PW: Mizuno MP-4, DG S300
Wedges: Titleist SM7
56* Wedge: Callaway Jaws w/ 12* of bounce

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11 hours ago, zrumble said:

I’m a big fan of the Z-star, have been for a long time. Excited to give these a try. I’m a big fan of a really high spin, firm ball because the local course has all tabletop greens. Need the ball to sit down quickly even on little shots. It’s then my job to take spin off when I have too by swinging easier. 

If you haven't yet, read the member reviews here.  The XS is now in the bag over the Z Star.  Even since making that decision, I've taken the Z Star out for a round here and there just to make sure I still feel the same.  From iron and wedge performance, there's not a huge difference.  Both perform well with these shots and I have no problem spinning one back or taking spin off when needed with either ball.  Off the driver though, I see a nice increase in distance with the XS.  The XS also seems more manageable off driver in that it doesn't curve too much one way or the other as well.  That doesn't mean that I can't screw one up and send it off the planet, but the misses on average are not near as bad.

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  • TaylorMade M6 15 - PX HZRDUS Green 80 6.5 TX
  • Adams Red 18 - Matrix Altus Tour X
  • Callaway X Forged UT 19 - Aldila Rogue Black 105 TX
  • Srixon Z965 4-P - PX 6.0 LS (hs 1x) --------------- FORUM TESTING /// Sub 70 Golf 699 Pro 4-P - KBS Tour X
  • Cleveland RTX 4 52/58 Mid - DG TI S400
  • Scotty Cameron X7 Phantom 34”
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I tried both the X and XS out at a golf show here in Portland. They were saying the new tech allowed a spread on both ends of the spectrum, for the XS distance and workability were increased. I am debating a switch to the X, because I need to maintain low spin off the driver. I really want to shape my irons, though, so it's hard to switch from XS. Also have a stock of '18 XS to be played yet. 

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:titelist-small: TS4, 9.5, Project X HZRDUS Smoke Yellow 60 6.5TX
:cleveland-small: Launcher 3W, 15, Fujikara Gold X-Stiff
:callaway-small: Apex Pro 19 4-W, Dynamic Gold X100
:vokey-small: SM6 56
:vokey-small: SM7 50, 52, 60
:scotty-small: Circa 62 No. 2
:bridgestone-small: Tour B X

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7 hours ago, Smellis745 said:

If you haven't yet, read the member reviews here.  The XS is now in the bag over the Z Star.  Even since making that decision, I've taken the Z Star out for a round here and there just to make sure I still feel the same.  From iron and wedge performance, there's not a huge difference.  Both perform well with these shots and I have no problem spinning one back or taking spin off when needed with either ball.  Off the driver though, I see a nice increase in distance with the XS.  The XS also seems more manageable off driver in that it doesn't curve too much one way or the other as well.  That doesn't mean that I can't screw one up and send it off the planet, but the misses on average are not near as bad.

Awesome, thanks for the link. Once I can get my hands on the XS and hit the links, I'll post a quick review! I tend to miss with a blocked fade when I'm off a bit, and with a really spinny ball that can hang up FOREVER. Sounds like the XS might help with that as an added bonus.

Stats: 5'4", Male, R-Handed, Moderate Tempo, Driver SS 106mph
 

Driver: Ping i25, S-flex PWR 65 shaft
3w/5w: Callaway X-Hot, S-flex Fubuki shafts
3i: FOURTEEN FH-1000, DG X100
4i-PW: Mizuno MP-4, DG S300
Wedges: Titleist SM7
56* Wedge: Callaway Jaws w/ 12* of bounce

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Tried the new Tour BRX, and it was OK. What got me was that the looks of it are not the same as previous designs, the dimple in a dimple. It's no where near what it was in the B330 series, so I really can't call this a dimple in a dimple pattern. The ball performed OK, had some good spin on wedge shots, but overall a good ball. I just wish their marketing was a little better at describing the ball as it is.

:ping-small: G400 MAX  Alta CB- 55

:cobra-small: FW 15* King F-7 :Fuji: PRO-65

:ping-small: G400 Hybrid Alta CB-70

PXG 0211 5-SW Mitsubishi MMT Graphite

:titelist-small: AP1 52* SW TT XP-95

:taylormade-small: MG 58* TT DG Wedge

:bettinardi-1: BB-41

Grips- GP MCC+4

 

 

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I have played a Bridgestone ball for quite a few years.  I like the cover better, they remind me of the Nike tour ball back in the day.  I find the Tour Bx to be much more durable than every other "tour grade" ball as well.  The only other one that I find to be even close to as durable is the Taylormade TP5x.  It's amazing to me that we don't see them more, I suppose because you just don't see them very often in pro shops.  Almost every tournament I play in when balls are announced on the first tee I am the only guy with a Tour B.

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Driver: Taylormade '16 M2, Aldila NV 2KXV X

3W:  Taylormade '16 M2, Speeder 661 X

3:  Callaway X-forged UT 21*

4-P:  Callaway X-Forged, Modus 3 120 - S

Wedges:  50* - Callaway Apex Pro 19, 54* - Taylormade Milled Grind 2 black, 58* - Taylormade Milled Grind 2 black

Putter:  currently Odyssey Works V-Line Versa CB - 36"

Ball - Bridgestone Tour B X

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On 4/1/2020 at 11:39 AM, ballplayer002003 said:

Just got my order from Golfballs.com yesterday of the new Bridgestone Tour xs.  They had their buy 3 get 1 free deal.  Can't wait to go hit them, they look sweet!

Did the same, personalization was free too and not just some letters or saying on the side.  I was able to put my initials in a small emblem with different colors 🙂

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Driver: Taylormade '16 M2, Aldila NV 2KXV X

3W:  Taylormade '16 M2, Speeder 661 X

3:  Callaway X-forged UT 21*

4-P:  Callaway X-Forged, Modus 3 120 - S

Wedges:  50* - Callaway Apex Pro 19, 54* - Taylormade Milled Grind 2 black, 58* - Taylormade Milled Grind 2 black

Putter:  currently Odyssey Works V-Line Versa CB - 36"

Ball - Bridgestone Tour B X

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Having played several versions of the rx and rxs and not linking any of the balls from the previous I want to put these up against the 2019 Prov1/1x and the tp5/5x which are my go to balls. I am a fan do Bridgetone and golf and would consider them for most spots in my bag.

I wish they would offer a trial pack dozen with a sleeve of each, but once I ca get some swings in I’ll do their vfit and go from there

Driver: Titleist 917D3 9.5 with Graphite Design MAD Pro 65g S

Wood: Titleist 917F2 with UST Mamiya Helium 5F4

Hybrid: Titleist 816H1 21 with Atmos Blue 85 S

Irons: Titleist 718 AP3 4i, 718 CB 5-6, MB 7-9 with KBS $ Taper 125

Wedges: Vokey SM7 46/50/54/60 with DG s200

Putter: Scotty Caemeron Super Rat1

Ball: Titleist Prov1

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On 3/5/2020 at 2:34 PM, heribertomaya said:

people get their feelings all touched-up whenever someone doesnt like "their" brand.  SMH.   If you aren't the owner/CEO of the brand,  why would you care what anyone says about your favorite product.  Hard to understand.   If I had to reply back each time defending my love for Mizuno,  I would be dead by now........

 

... It should not be hard to understand at all. You made a reckless statement of fact, not just opinion. You did follow up with a personal opinion which of course is 100% valid and had you done so initially, I doubt you would have gotten any negative feedback. 

"Srixon are sub-par balls (in my case at least,  much shorter than most urethane balls, etc)"

... Srixon's are most definitely not sub par balls. They may not work well for you and they may be much shorter for you but as jlukes stated above, that is not true for 
others. This is really why we are on a golf forum, to share and hear others opinions but the downside is when someone states an opinion as if it is a fact.

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Driver:   TaylorMade SIM Max ... Diamana Limited 55R
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
                 SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33.5"
Ball:  TaylorMade TP5

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So, got my VFit and have some RXS coming my way. Intrigued to put them against the V1X, Z-Star, and Elixir when/if I get the chance. 

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:callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero, 15*, Kuro Kage Silver TINI Dual Core 60-S 

:cobra-small: F9 Speedback, 18.5, Hzrdus Yellow 70-S

:ping-small: G710, 4-UW, Blue Dot, Nippon Modus 105-S

:honma: TW-W4, 56*, Nippon Modus 125

:mizuno-small: T20, 61*, Nippon Modus 125

:nickent-small: Pipe

:bridgestone-small: Tour B-XS (2019)

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A friend and I split two dozen Bridgestones: one dozen tour bx and one dozen tourbxs, then we split them with each other. Made our own “demo dozen”. I’m excited to see how these balls have changed from 2018 to 2020.
What I’m looking for, if anyone has recommendations: the tour bx 2018 is perfect for me off the tee and down to about 6 iron, from 7 down though it seems like there may be a lack of spin? The symptom I’m experiencing could best be described as the ball “sailing” and I hit my shorter irons and wedges too long surprising me. Any thoughts? I am also trying the ProV1X left dash which may end up perfect, but I’m concerned they won’t be in production much longer.
Also, for Srixon being called a “subpar” ball, one just has to look at the MyGolfSpy ball test. The thing I’ve been looking for to make a ball decision is a balance of the average data for directional improvements in lowering spin off driver then increasing for 7i and wedge; but more importantly I’ve been looking at the std dev tab to measure consistency. The Srixon ZStar is the top performer in a lot of the important categories for lowest std deviations. Giving you a higher confidence interval for knowing your carry distances and offline yardages. Anyway, it’s a great ball. Std deviation is actually why I didn’t go into the Snell MTBX despite the potential to gain driver yardage with the averages hype. I did like the Snell MTB Black several years ago though. Sorry for the rant, bored during quarantine.


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Wood: Cobra Fly-Z 3 wood factory stiff shaft
Hybrid: Cobra Baffler 3-hybrid factory stiff shaft
Irons: Cobra F8 One Length 5-GW
Wedges: 52,56,60 Mizuno mp t5
Putter: Sentio Red (Medium)
Ball: Bridgestone E6 Speed, and Titleist Pro V1

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A friend and I split two dozen Bridgestones: one dozen tour bx and one dozen tourbxs, then we split them with each other. Made our own “demo dozen”. I’m excited to see how these balls have changed from 2018 to 2020.
What I’m looking for, if anyone has recommendations: the tour bx 2018 is perfect for me off the tee and down to about 6 iron, from 7 down though it seems like there may be a lack of spin? The symptom I’m experiencing could best be described as the ball “sailing” and I hit my shorter irons and wedges too long surprising me. Any thoughts? I am also trying the ProV1X left dash which may end up perfect, but I’m concerned they won’t be in production much longer.
Also, for Srixon being called a “subpar” ball, one just has to look at the MyGolfSpy ball test. The thing I’ve been looking for to make a ball decision is a balance of the average data for directional improvements in lowering spin off driver then increasing for 7i and wedge; but more importantly I’ve been looking at the std dev tab to measure consistency. The Srixon ZStar is the top performer in a lot of the important categories for lowest std deviations. Giving you a higher confidence interval for knowing your carry distances and offline yardages. Anyway, it’s a great ball. Std deviation is actually why I didn’t go into the Snell MTBX despite the potential to gain driver yardage with the averages hype. I did like the Snell MTB Black several years ago though. Sorry for the rant, bored during quarantine.


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Driver: Searching
Wood: Cobra Fly-Z 3 wood factory stiff shaft
Hybrid: Cobra Baffler 3-hybrid factory stiff shaft
Irons: Cobra F8 One Length 5-GW
Wedges: 52,56,60 Mizuno mp t5
Putter: Sentio Red (Medium)
Ball: Bridgestone E6 Speed, and Titleist Pro V1

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On 4/6/2020 at 11:25 AM, KatoGolfer said:

Did the same, personalization was free too and not just some letters or saying on the side.  I was able to put my initials in a small emblem with different colors 🙂

I did my old baseball number 00 and the alignment arrows.  Hard to beat that deal!

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   Driver:  :callaway-small: Epic Flash Sub Zero Hzdrs Smoke x flex 70g

3 Wood:  :titelist-small: 917 w/ Diamana Whiteboard stiff

5 Wood : :callaway-small: Epic Flash 18* Hzdrs Smoke stiff

4 Hybrid: :callaway-small:  Apex w/Kuro Kage stiff

     Irons:  :callaway-small: 5-7  Apex forged 19 w/ Modus 120 X

                         9-A Apex Pro 19 w/ Modus 120 X

Wedges:  :callaway-small: MD5 52&56 Jaws Dynamic Gold wedge flex

    Putter: :titelist-small: Scotty Cameron Del Mar 34"

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On 4/8/2020 at 11:07 PM, Pappyvanroyl said:

A friend and I split two dozen Bridgestones: one dozen tour bx and one dozen tourbxs, then we split them with each other. Made our own “demo dozen”. I’m excited to see how these balls have changed from 2018 to 2020.
What I’m looking for, if anyone has recommendations: the tour bx 2018 is perfect for me off the tee and down to about 6 iron, from 7 down though it seems like there may be a lack of spin? The symptom I’m experiencing could best be described as the ball “sailing” and I hit my shorter irons and wedges too long surprising me. Any thoughts?

I like that concept of dividing up, making a mixed dozen.

 

With the BX flying too far, does it create larger than ideal distance gaps in your shorter clubs, or does it make the distance gaps more consistent between clubs? When I switched from ProV1s to BX, the short iron and wedge shots did fly further than I expected, but the gaps were more consistent, meaning I just had to alter my expectations. It's totally worth doing a gapping session with a reliable launch monitor and your own balls to get consistent gapping numbers.

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:cobra-small:            Cobra F9 10.5° (Hzrdus Yellow X)

:srixon-small:                     H85 16° and 19° (Hzrdus Black 85 6.0)

:mizuno-small:                    MP20 MMC 4-PW (KBS $ Taper 120S)

:mizuno-small:                    T20 51°, 8° (KBS $ Taper 120S)

:mizuno-small:                    T20 55°, 9° (KBS $ Taper 120S)

:mizuno-small:                    T20 59°, 9° (KBS $ Taper 120S)

:yes-small:                         Tracy 33"

:bridgestone-small:      Tour BX

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... I have never had any success playing the Bridgestone RX/S series of balls because they never have enough spin around the greens, even though Bridgestone fittings always recommend this ball because of my age and swing speed around 100, not 105. Fred Couples switching to the new B-RXS makes me want to give them another shot. But I have a stock pile of TP5x/TP5's I planned on taking to Phoenix over the winter and I went thru a ton in the desert last year so stocked up this season. Between a herniated disc and then the Corona virus, I never got to Phoenix. Having 13 dozen TP's is not something to complain about but buying a dozen B-RXS would be silly because I won't get thru 1/2 of my TP's this summer in the Midwest. And even worse, I might like the B-RXS a little better. 🤪

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Driver:   TaylorMade SIM Max ... Diamana Limited 55R
Utility:   Callaway Super Hybrid 17*   ... Diamana Limited 65R
               TaylorMade DHy 19* ... Diamana Limited 65R
Irons:    4-Gw Titleist T100-S ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Wedges:  SM6 52* F Grind ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
                 SM7D & SM8M 58* ... Steelfiber 95 r-flex
Putter:  Newport 2.5 at 33.5"
Ball:  TaylorMade TP5

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X has been my dream ball.  If all these claims are true, I can’t wait to try them

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Driver: Taylormade SIM Max d 9 with graphite design tour ad xc 6s

Fairway Wood:Taylormade Sim 15 with Graphite design Tour ad iz 6s
Hybrid:  Pxg gen2 19 with hand crafted hzrdus black 85 6.0 and Adams super ls xtd 22 with Diamana s+  stiff

Irons: 5-pw Miura Mc501 with modus 120s pured

Wedges:  Callaway md2 gold 50 Dg tour issue s400 black onyx, Taylormade MG 54 with DG tour issue s400 black onyx, and Taylormade hi toe 59 with modus 120r

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Tried the new X today and put it up against Pro V, and Pro V1X. With driver, they were all about equal, with the two longest drives with V1X. Iron shots with the V1X were longer by about 3-4 yards, and equal with wedges. I didn’t see any real difference on approach shots, chips, or pitches. I like it, but saw better performance, for me, with the Titleists. Only one 9 of comparison, so this sample size isn’t significant.


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Driver: :honma: TR20 460, :Fuji: Ventus Black 70X

Fwy: :titelist-small: TS3, 15*, Veylix Rome 888 X

Hybrid: :callaway-small: X2 Hot Pro, 20*, :Fuji: Rombax 8D07HB TM27 X

Irons: :honma:TR20 Tour P 4/5, Tour V 6-10, Dynamic Gold X100

Wedges: Vega VW-06 50*/54*/58*, Dynamic Gold S400

Putter: :seemore-small: Platinum M5 HT Mallet, 36"

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I played the RXS for a couple of years and it was fine.  Then 2 years ago or so, started playing the E6 Speed, (which at the rate I was drowning them at the time) I really liked and its now been discontinued, so I am looking to get back to the B series.  I just sent my data to Bridgestone to see what they recommend.  I agree it would be nice to not have to buy a dozen just to try a couple of different balls.  I will admit that overall I have been very pleased with the Bridgestone brand.

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