StrokerAce 10,474 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: with the CPO sale going, thinking of getting a similar shaft than what i game but 1" shorter. This thread has me thinking this would help me as well as adding some weight to get the force higher on the golf ball. My first driver fitting they put me in a 44/44.5 inch shaft and the results have bore themselves out. more fairways with little to no loss of distance and consistently hitting the middle of the face. the last was most important to me. As long as I can continue to hit the middle then I can make adjustments, but if I am all across the face then I'm in trouble. I realized this when I recently bought a 45.5" club and my center-face contact went back down. When I think of how short an inch really is I am amazed how much difference it can make. Good luck! 1 1 Quote G410 LST | King F7 | 818 H2 | Srixon Z785 | ZipCore | Newport 3 Link to post
rbsiedsc 971 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, GolfSpy Stroker said: My first driver fitting they put me in a 44/44.5 inch shaft and the results have bore themselves out. more fairways with little to no loss of distance and consistently hitting the middle of the face. the last was most important to me. As long as I can continue to hit the middle then I can make adjustments, but if I am all across the face then I'm in trouble. I realized this when I recently bought a 45.5" club and my center-face contact went back down. When I think of how short an inch really is I am amazed how much difference it can make. Good luck! My biggest question is, what do I need to get in terms of weights to up the SW since I will lose some shortening it? I think it would be ~6 grams needed, plus what ever more i need to add a little more mass. I would also presume I would need to change the weight equally in the back and front or i would get some major trajectory issues 1 Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with XStiff Pro 2.0 TS7 at 44.5" 3W: Epic Flash SZ with HZRDUS Yellow 6.5 UPRT or DI: PXG 0311X HZRDUS Smoke Black S 2.5* upright 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: PXG 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34" Ball: MTB-X Link to post
StrokerAce 10,474 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, rbsiedsc said: My biggest question is, what do I need to get in terms of weights to up the SW since I will lose some shortening it? I think it would be ~6 grams needed, plus what ever more i need to add a little more mass. I would also presume I would need to change the weight equally in the back and front or i would get some major trajectory issues yes; you cannot simply cut an inch off a shaft. when I got my last driver I went from an 11g weight to 14g. my cobra I went from 12g to 16g. definitely something to consider. Quote G410 LST | King F7 | 818 H2 | Srixon Z785 | ZipCore | Newport 3 Link to post
dlow206 5,085 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I have been thinking about lengths of all clubs lately. Have never felt comfortable with any length irons. And fitting for length has always seemed like one of the hardest areas to fit, given that i have never been to a fitter with a shorter length shafts, and i don't feel like choking down is necessarily equivalent to the feel of a shower club. Just for context, I am short 5'5", but have a wrist to floor of 30.5" which is about the wrist to floor of the average person that is 5'2". Ping recommends and Wishon recommend 0.5" shorter than standard length, some others recommend 1" shorter, and I did an online fitting with a local company with a proprietary "dimensional" fitting algorithm and it recommended a 36" 6 iron, which is really short. 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post
cnosil 14,594 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, GolfSpy Stroker said: yes; you cannot simply cut an inch off a shaft. when I got my last driver I went from an 11g weight to 14g. my cobra I went from 12g to 16g. definitely something to consider. I think it is something you have to experiment with. I cut an inch and a 1/4 off mine with no weight adjustment and haven't had any negative results. 3 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post
B.Boston 8,473 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I have been thinking about lengths of all clubs lately. Have never felt comfortable with any length irons. And fitting for length has always seemed like one of the hardest areas to fit, given that i have never been to a fitter with a shorter length shafts, and i don't feel like choking down is necessarily equivalent to the feel of a shower club. Just for context, I am short 5'5", but have a wrist to floor of 30.5" which is about the wrist to floor of the average person that is 5'2". Ping recommends and Wishon recommend 0.5" shorter than standard length, some others recommend 1" shorter, and I did an online fitting with a local company with a proprietary "dimensional" fitting algorithm and it recommended a 36" 6 iron, which is really short. I’m 5’4.5 and play -1/2 and 2 flat on my irons. I actually went to -3/4 on the wedges since I have a set GW and 52 which were the same length. I think my WTF is about 31.5-32.The -1/2 length feels great for me, but my prior set was std length and I didn’t notice that much of a difference. I am hitting the center more often now. For length I would take a look at your strike tendency. Lots of heel? Maybe go -1/2. All over the face? Try shorter. Pretty good strikes? It’s probably a good length. Then you just need to make sure you lie angles are good. Of course, a different shaft could also help promote different strike patterns too, so that’s part of it. I think the best answer for us shorter guys is to go get fit. You can always bring up club length with your fitter and see what they suggest. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote #COBRACONNECT CHALLENGE 4 ALUMNUS Speedzone Driver 10.5 - Ventus Blue 6X Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S Speedzone 4-Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S KING Forged Tec 5-GW - PX LZ 6.5 KING MIM Black 52.12 Classic, 56.10 Versatile, 60.04 Widelow - Nippon Modus 125 Wedge ER2B Pro V1x vs MTB-X vs Tour B X NX9 HD Slope #cuetheduckboats Link to post
dlow206 5,085 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, B.Boston said: I’m 5’4.5 and play -1/2 and 2 flat on my irons. I actually went to -3/4 on the wedges since I have a set GW and 52 which were the same length. I think my WTF is about 31.5-32. The -1/2 length feels great for me, but my prior set was std length and I didn’t notice that much of a difference. I am hitting the center more often now. For length I would take a look at your strike tendency. Lots of heel? Maybe go -1/2. All over the face? Try shorter. Pretty good strikes? It’s probably a good length. Then you just need to make sure you lie angles are good. Of course, a different shaft could also help promote different strike patterns too, so that’s part of it. I think the best answer for us shorter guys is to go get fit. You can always bring up club length with your fitter and see what they suggest. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Part of my issue is I never feel super comfortable at setup. The club shaft feels very horizontal to me if that makes sense. With it that horizontal feeling, it makes me want to make a flat backswing. That is a 9 iron 0.5" short in the picture. 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post
rbsiedsc 971 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Part of my issue is I never feel super comfortable at setup. The club shaft feels very horizontal to me if that makes sense. With it that horizontal feeling, it makes me want to make a flat backswing. That is a 9 iron 0.5" short in the picture. I know this is about shaft length for driver and I am not a fitter or a golf pro, but have you tried widening your stance a 1/2" and then drop your had a little lower? Might give you a better feeling at setup. Again, maybe this is out of line for me, so apologies. Edited November 23, 2020 by rbsiedsc Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with XStiff Pro 2.0 TS7 at 44.5" 3W: Epic Flash SZ with HZRDUS Yellow 6.5 UPRT or DI: PXG 0311X HZRDUS Smoke Black S 2.5* upright 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: PXG 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34" Ball: MTB-X Link to post
cnosil 14,594 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Part of my issue is I never feel super comfortable at setup. The club shaft feels very horizontal to me if that makes sense. With it that horizontal feeling, it makes me want to make a flat backswing. That is a 9 iron 0.5" short in the picture. Where does the grip line run in your hands? Both left and right. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post
dlow206 5,085 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, cnosil said: Where does the grip line run in your hands? Both left and right. Sorry, didn't understand the question exactly. Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post
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Chip Strokes 2,302 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 35 minutes ago, dlow206 said: Part of my issue is I never feel super comfortable at setup. The club shaft feels very horizontal to me if that makes sense. With it that horizontal feeling, it makes me want to make a flat backswing. That is a 9 iron 0.5" short in the picture. looks about right to me, but if it’s uncomfortable that’s a different story Quote Link to post
Lacassem 7,984 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, dlow206 said: Part of my issue is I never feel super comfortable at setup. The club shaft feels very horizontal to me if that makes sense. With it that horizontal feeling, it makes me want to make a flat backswing. That is a 9 iron 0.5" short in the picture. I see the problem. Flip flops. jk i do not have much to add to shaft length conversation I just go with feel and lether rip! I should probably shorten it up though because I took my first swings in a few weeks with my sons clubs and had my best posture and stayed down on the ball 1 3 Quote Follow my overall Vegan transition here Check out my reviews G710 Irons Lacassem official review FlexTech is filled with all this shiny metal and tracked by : TS2 9.5 - Project X HZRDUS Green SIM 3W - Project X HZRDUS Green 2H VST - Super Idea S Matrix Kujoh S-Flex 2019 P790 4-PW - Project X 6.5 LZ 52, 56, 60 SM7 - Nippon Modus 125 O-Works 1W PROV1X #19 Bushnell Tour V3 Jolt Thank you to all those that have served/are serving and God Bless America Link to post
cnosil 14,594 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, dlow206 said: Sorry, didn't understand the question exactly. Hard to tell with the red line but it looks like the grip is placed along the lifeline of your hands and not the fingers. Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post
dlow206 5,085 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, cnosil said: Hard to tell with the red line but it looks like the grip is placed along the lifeline of your hands and not the fingers. Yeah, hard to see. Its in the fingers, something i have been working on closely with my instructor the past week. 1 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post
B.Boston 8,473 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 hours ago, dlow206 said: Part of my issue is I never feel super comfortable at setup. The club shaft feels very horizontal to me if that makes sense. With it that horizontal feeling, it makes me want to make a flat backswing. That is a 9 iron 0.5" short in the picture. I’ll try to find the video, but I used to be super flat like Rickie on the left here: It took me a winter of slow motion swings and some sketchy rounds but now I’m closer to the Rickie on the right, but probably still a little flat. for me I had to really feel like I was reaching back to start the downswing so I didn’t tug it inside. 2 Quote #COBRACONNECT CHALLENGE 4 ALUMNUS Speedzone Driver 10.5 - Ventus Blue 6X Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S Speedzone 4-Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S KING Forged Tec 5-GW - PX LZ 6.5 KING MIM Black 52.12 Classic, 56.10 Versatile, 60.04 Widelow - Nippon Modus 125 Wedge ER2B Pro V1x vs MTB-X vs Tour B X NX9 HD Slope #cuetheduckboats Link to post
Golfspy_CG2 25,102 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 15 hours ago, dlow206 said: Part of my issue is I never feel super comfortable at setup. The club shaft feels very horizontal to me if that makes sense. With it that horizontal feeling, it makes me want to make a flat backswing. That is a 9 iron 0.5" short in the picture. On another note, have you ever caught one straight over the net into your neighbors yard I'm sure the net is much closer than it appears and it's probably impossible to do that, but it was my first takeaway looking at the picture That and oh where did you find that bright red shaft...LOL 2 Quote TSi2 Kuro Kage 50g R Flex TSi2 16.5 FW with GD AD IZ 6 Shaft G410 FW 7 Alta CB R flex G410 Hybrid 26 degree Alta CB R Flex T100S/T200 Combo 5-7 T100S 8-P T200 TT Black Oynx R Flex SM7 54.08 F 58.12 K Heppler Tomcast ProV1X Play number 12 Link to post
cnosil 14,594 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 On another note, have you ever caught one straight over the net into your neighbors yard That is probably the biggest reason I don’t have a backyard net. I am terrified I would hit on past the net and into someone’s house. 2 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* set to 16.5* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 816H1 19* set at 18* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 588 54-14, 58-12 Putter: Ten S Backups: 6330, ER2.2, Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to post
dlow206 5,085 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said: On another note, have you ever caught one straight over the net into your neighbors yard I'm sure the net is much closer than it appears and it's probably impossible to do that, but it was my first takeaway looking at the picture That and oh where did you find that bright red shaft...LOL LOL on the bright red shaft. Prior to this summer, there was a severe slope in my backyard. So the net was probably two feet below where it is now. Back then, i definitely hit a few over the fence. With the backyard more level, have not hit one over the fence. Also, switched to using limited flight foam balls as well to reduce the chance. Also, what looks like a house over the fence is actually a rarely used barn, so nothing really to damage if i hit one over. 2 Quote Follow my golf journey to break into the 80s Current tester for the Titleist TSi Driver Spring 2020 MGS Tester for the Fujikura Motore X Shaft Updated 12/27/2020 Driver: TSi 2 - Graphite Design AD-XC 6S Hybrids: SIM Max 3H, 4H - Matrix Ozik 85S Irons: ZX5 5 - PW - Nippon Modus 120 S Wedges: CBX 2 54, CBX Full Face 58 - KBS Hi-Rev S Putter: ER2 Link to post
rbsiedsc 971 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Commencing driver length test soon. Pulled the trigger this morning. 3 Quote Driver: Epic Flash SZ with XStiff Pro 2.0 TS7 at 44.5" 3W: Epic Flash SZ with HZRDUS Yellow 6.5 UPRT or DI: PXG 0311X HZRDUS Smoke Black S 2.5* upright 3H: 939X UST proforce V2 black F3 hybrid soft stepped XStiff UPRT setting 4-AW: PXG 0211 with KBS Tour Stiff 2.5* up 1/4" long Unofficial Review Wedges Zipcore Tour Rack 54/full and 58/mid (review here) (Backup 54*,60*: S Tour KBS Tour Stiff 3* up) Putter: Toulon Las Vegas Stroke Lab 34" Ball: MTB-X Link to post
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