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1 hour ago, B.Boston said:


That def sounds like high toe dive bombs. At least those run out a bit. Haha


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Thanks for helping to pinpoint the issue. I think I had a few things going against me today. I think the length of both shafts are a bit too long for me, going to trim them down to play at 45" since I choke up anyway. Even at 45" I will still probably choke up a bit. I also just couldn't get comfortable with not being able to tee up the ball to my preferred height, that really messed with me.

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Question for the group. If both my launch angle is too low and my backspin is too low (sometimes 1500), what exactly is going on? Where on the face am i hitting the ball?



I’d also say high possibly with a negative AoA. The issue with the tee height could have exacerbated this. But it’s only a guess - didn’t you have a ball mark on the club face of your driver? Normally trackman data includes AoA info.


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Thanks for helping to pinpoint the issue. I think I had a few things going against me today. I think the length of both shafts are a bit too long for me, going to trim them down to play at 45" since I choke up anyway. Even at 45" I will still probably choke up a bit. I also just couldn't get comfortable with not being able to tee up the ball to my preferred height, that really messed with me.

Yeah being comfortable with the tee height makes a real big difference too. I used to get to play on a sim and between the fact that it felt like a small enclosure, and the crappy tee height my average launch angle was like 7 degrees but I would go outside right then and there and hit a normal drive.

It actually took me quite some time to get my actual swing in the sim with driver/fairway wood.


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8 hours ago, dlow206 said:

Thanks for helping to pinpoint the issue. I think I had a few things going against me today. I think the length of both shafts are a bit too long for me, going to trim them down to play at 45" since I choke up anyway. Even at 45" I will still probably choke up a bit. I also just couldn't get comfortable with not being able to tee up the ball to my preferred height, that really messed with me.

I agree with you and @B.Boston Tee height alwayyyyys screwed with me. Have my standard tee outside that I use and I know where to set it every time. Get into the sim and the whole feel is different (funny how something so small could screw with you). I too have adjusted to the sim tees but with only the 3 standard tees typically the sims have it’s tough.

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6 hours ago, B.Boston said:


Yeah being comfortable with the tee height makes a real big difference too. I used to get to play on a sim and between the fact that it felt like a small enclosure, and the crappy tee height my average launch angle was like 7 degrees but I would go outside right then and there and hit a normal drive.

It actually took me quite some time to get my actual swing in the sim with driver/fairway wood.

 

6 hours ago, Lacassem said:

I agree with you and @B.Boston Tee height alwayyyyys screwed with me. Have my standard tee outside that I use and I know where to set it every time. Get into the sim and the whole feel is different (funny how something so small could screw with you). I too have adjusted to the sim tees but with only the 3 standard tees typically the sims have it’s tough.

I actually went out and bought rubber tee that you can place actual tees in a year or so ago.  Like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Holder-Practice-Driving-available/dp/B07BHWNKBL

If you use the short tees for irons, it should be at the exact height you would normally play.

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I actually went out and bought rubber tee that you can place actual tees in a year or so ago.  Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Holder-Practice-Driving-available/dp/B07BHWNKBL
If you use the short tees for irons, it should be at the exact height you would normally play.
You beat me to it. They use tees like this at PGATSS that go up and down quite a bit and the actual tee part is anchored in so it won't fly outScreenshot_20200315-112913.jpeg

the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..

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Was hitting well for a while today at my club with the driver and the Motore X, much better than on the Trackman. Was waiting for my tee time during a frost delay. As the delay went on for four hours, then everything went to hell with my swing to the point it didn't even feel right to hold a golf club. Went home without ever teeing off today. Trying to get my golf mental state back to normal.

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50 minutes ago, goaliewales14 said:

 

I actually went out and bought rubber tee that you can place actual tees in a year or so ago.  Like this one:

https://www.amazon.com/Rubber-Holder-Practice-Driving-available/dp/B07BHWNKBL

If you use the short tees for irons, it should be at the exact height you would normally play.

I also use the short tees (plastic) and they are pretty much on the ground 

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So I finally got some time to get on trackman.  My swing was not good today.   Even shots that hit the middle of the face according to Trackman, felt heely.  If you've never used Trackman before, carbon crowned drivers tend to read club head speed a little quicker than normal.  The ball speed is correct, but it can show lower smash factors than normal.  So as you can tell the swing needs a lot of work, but I liked the results overall for the first run of data! Shafts are listed in the order I hit them on the diagram.  I was leaking a little more right with the Cortex at 8 degrees, so I bumped it to 9. Fastest ball speed of the day! I deleted all but the 5 best or so with the other shafts, but the Motore seemed to have many more balls in play!

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Rtracy how are you a 9?  If I had half those numbers.......

 

Oh well I have yet to get on a launch monitor and the way things are going it may not happen - lots of places are temporarily closing including my normal resource.  Here's what I know so far - my average fairways hit have gone from just over 50 percent to nearly 75 percent.  I've shot 78,77,76 with the shaft in.  The 77 was back a half a set of tees from the ones that I normally play at my club.  I have not taken a penalty with driver in those three rounds and I have had only 1 drive into a bad spot, a pitch out fairway trap.  My handicap index has gone from 7.0 to 5.8.  My driving handicap has dropped from 15 to 10. 

So while I don't have launch monitor data I do have real golf scores and also data on the component parts going into those scores that reveal that this shaft is making a difference in my game at this point.  I'm certainly going to have ample opportunity to play golf in the coming weeks as we are shut down for two with the strong probability of more to come.  I've yet to use the driver on the range for more than a couple of swings.  That should come tomorrow. 

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28 minutes ago, revkev said:

Rtracy how are you a 9?  If I had half those numbers.......

 

Oh well I have yet to get on a launch monitor and the way things are going it may not happen - lots of places are temporarily closing including my normal resource.  Here's what I know so far - my average fairways hit have gone from just over 50 percent to nearly 75 percent.  I've shot 78,77,76 with the shaft in.  The 77 was back a half a set of tees from the ones that I normally play at my club.  I have not taken a penalty with driver in those three rounds and I have had only 1 drive into a bad spot, a pitch out fairway trap.  My handicap index has gone from 7.0 to 5.8.  My driving handicap has dropped from 15 to 10. 

So while I don't have launch monitor data I do have real golf scores and also data on the component parts going into those scores that reveal that this shaft is making a difference in my game at this point.  I'm certainly going to have ample opportunity to play golf in the coming weeks as we are shut down for two with the strong probability of more to come.  I've yet to use the driver on the range for more than a couple of swings.  That should come tomorrow. 

RevKev a lot of it is lack of playing.  For the past 6 years I worked 7 days a week from February-June and then I was working 5 days from June-August including just about every weekend.  My wife worked one of my two days off plus 2 young kids, well you get the picture 🙂  If you look at a couple of those misses they lead to penalty strokes.  I live by the motto long and wrong lol Add those penalty strokes to a 32+ putt average and it usually adds up to the high 70s-low 80s.  I can't wait to get outside and play a little more with the shaft in this driver.  If I had your consistency, I could finally win my family tournament!

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4 hours ago, Rtracymog said:

 

So I finally got some time to get on trackman.  My swing was not good today.   Even shots that hit the middle of the face according to Trackman, felt heely.  If you've never used Trackman before, carbon crowned drivers tend to read club head speed a little quicker than normal.  The ball speed is correct, but it can show lower smash factors than normal.  So as you can tell the swing needs a lot of work, but I liked the results overall for the first run of data! Shafts are listed in the order I hit them on the diagram.  I was leaking a little more right with the Cortex at 8 degrees, so I bumped it to 9. Fastest ball speed of the day! I deleted all but the 5 best or so with the other shafts, but the Motore seemed to have many more balls in play!

3 15 Trackman Averages.jpg

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Is the offline numbers on the pic in yards or feet??

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Is the offline numbers on the pic in yards or feet??

Yards. With the rogue silver I hit a few and adjusted the target because of the way the mat was aiming me so a couple of those are a little farther left in the results than in real life.


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I don't know if I will be able to get on a launch monitor again due to the coronavirus, but going to put ample time on the range and on the course with the shaft. Although my numbers on the Trackman weren't the best with the Motore X, I think my lack of comfort at that facility (the tee height issue) had a significant impact. Let's see how things go on the course, that is what matters.

I've been struggling a bit with a few things on my driver swing, so going to go back to the basics on a few items including grip and general setup. It's close, but just need to find some more consistency in my swing.

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Irons:srixon-small: ZX5 5 - PW - Accra 95 icwt S
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RevKev a lot of it is lack of playing.  For the past 6 years I worked 7 days a week from February-June and then I was working 5 days from June-August including just about every weekend.  My wife worked one of my two days off plus 2 young kids, well you get the picture [emoji846]  If you look at a couple of those misses they lead to penalty strokes.  I live by the motto long and wrong lol Add those penalty strokes to a 32+ putt average and it usually adds up to the high 70s-low 80s.  I can't wait to get outside and play a little more with the shaft in this driver.  If I had your consistency, I could finally win my family tournament!



Yeah there’s a reason why we all have handicaps - at our level you can offset a deficiency with strengths. That’s true at the very highest levels but the margins are closer.

Still very impressive numbers - I’d love to have you in a scramble.


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Wilson D7 forged 6-GW -  Mamiya recoil 460 R flex

SCOR 52,60

EVNRoll ER 5

Titleist Pro VIx optic yellow with revkev stamped on them

Currently testing Edison wedges to replace SCORS that are wearing out. Also auditions for the 14th spot in the bag.  Current possibilities are a Ping 26 degree hybrid - duplicates the 9 wood or 5 iron but would be used almost exclusively for chipping or Tour Exotics 3 wood simply because you can carry 14 clubs and I might occasionally hit it in certain unusual wind conditions once every four or five rounds. 

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Yeah there’s a reason why we all have handicaps - at our level you can offset a deficiency with strengths. That’s true at the very highest levels but the margins are closer.

Still very impressive numbers - I’d love to have you in a scramble.


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@COmedic - What happened with the F3?  I see it's up on for sale!  I might take a look at it with my 3-wood

Driver: PXG 0811 X Gen 2
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3 Utility Iron: Srixon U85
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So I took a chance and had the V2 butt trimmed by .75" and added a GP Microsuede grip which is close to the same weight as the Lamkin.

I've decided to keep the yarn in the head. The sound and feel have really grown on me. Both play at 45" and are D4 SW. This way I can change the shafts back and forth and keep the SW relatively close. The V2 plays just a little softer now due to the butt trim but it's probably a true S flex now.

I'm really tempted to order the V2 Black in XS as I feel like it could be a good competitor, and at the $60 price point could make for an interesting write up compared to the $275 premium MotoreX

As you can see, I'm really starting to find my stride with the MotoreX. I just feel like I can open up the throttle a bit more and maintain good control. The shaft feels very smooth. Almost like swing a softer flex but without the feeling of being a noodle. It's very intriguing. Almost like if you could install a LaZBoy recliner in a Porsche GT3. Ok that's probably a weird analogy but I'm going with it.



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the more I practice, the luckier I seem to get..



Jeez! I’d be gaming that shaft for the dispersion ALONE! Nice!


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