Nippon Modus players, question for you guys

[RickyBobby_PR]

8 minutes ago, bens197 said:

 

I am going to say its incomparable.  Based upon what I've read throughout this forum, WRX as well as my own personal experience of playing over 32 years.  The characteristics of this particular 120 shaft are so unique that I couldn't suggest anything alike.

 Soft feel, higher launch, low spin, lighter weight is almost a unicorn of design.  This one has no Pepsi to its Coke.  

Overall I agree with you and the modus are in a separate class form most shafts. Based on fitting data the launch and spin may or may not be higher launch or lower spin.

In my pxg fitting for Gen 2 iron release I used the modus120, dg s300, Px 6.0 and kbs $ taper. My spin was within a couple hundred rpm with all of them. Launch was within 2* and peak height within 3-5’

The reason I say dg105 is that the 115, 120 and 300 shafts are nowhere near the modus. 

 

[RollingGreens]

30 minutes ago, bens197 said:

 

I am going to say its incomparable.  Based upon what I've read throughout this forum, WRX as well as my own personal experience of playing over 32 years.  The characteristics of this particular 120 shaft are so unique that I couldn't suggest anything alike.

 Soft feel, higher launch, low spin, lighter weight is almost a unicorn of design.  This one has no Pepsi to its Coke.  

totally correct. The way the 120’allows the club to release vs the s300 is night and day. The s300 feel very board, similarly to the kbs c taper. It just doesn’t feel like their is a lot of love and forgiveness. I think the modus has the ability to be forgiving enough for the weekend golfer but specialized enough for the golf junkies!

[Tsecor]

I never hear anything bad about the modus 120's...the DG S300 has been arund for almost 30 years, so its fine, but maybe its run its course with the new modern golfer......

I read great things about the DG 120's as well......

its off to the fitter to see what works for me!!   I just want a nice feeling shaft that is controllable, does not feel overly "boardy" but not loose either.   Its time to move on from the S400's ive been playing for years.....

[bens197]

7 minutes ago, Tsecor said:

I never hear anything bad about the modus 120's...the DG S300 has been arund for almost 30 years, so its fine, but maybe its run its course with the new modern golfer......

I read great things about the DG 120's as well......

its off to the fitter to see what works for me!!   I just want a nice feeling shaft that is controllable, does not feel overly "boardy" but not loose either.   Its time to move on from the S400's ive been playing for years.....

Good luck. I hope you’ll like the feel as many of us but more importantly, it performs. 

[Tsecor]

4 minutes ago, bens197 said:

Good luck. I hope you’ll like the feel as many of us but more importantly, it performs. 

ty...me too.....i tried the PX LZ line and it was NOT good for me.....hoping i can find something else that helps my game

[TooSteep]

I'll chime in here with my winter experience. I have played Project X 5.5 shafts for many, many years.

I had an iron fitting last fall with a highly regarded local fitter, and ended up ordering a few different 5-irons, and trying them all out all winter. I went to the range at least 5 times a week, and have recently made it out on the course for 8 rounds. I picked 5-iron because long irons have always been my biggest weakness.

Project X 5.5

SteelFiber CW 115 (R and S)

Modus 120 R

Modus 105 S

I built my Modus 105 5-iron 1/4" longer than the others to try and get a comparable swingweight.  

To make a long story short, the 5-iron with the Modus 105 S has been amazing. I hit it 9 times on full swings this week on the course and 8 of them were so pure that I couldn't ask for anything more. Feel is smooth, flight is high, but still wind piercing, and the ball flies straight. The straightness shocks me a little every time. I've never had that kind of flight with a long iron before in my life. (Head is a Maltby STi2) 

The results are so good, that I now have a dilemma. Build up a full set with the exact same specs (Golf Pride Z-Grip - I don't really like the feel) , or put on a Grip Master grip that I love the feel of, and potentially mess with the on-course results, as it is not as firm, and 4g lighter, which will increase the swingweight and change the balance.

I don't mind the Modus 120 R, but I do not achieve the same effortless results that I get with the 105 S.

 

[AcesAndHoles]

On 2/22/2020 at 7:05 PM, STUDque said:

KBS Tour for me. Reason? Fitter said I was launching too low with too much spin. Modus / i500 head helped with both. 

 

What's the goal here? What are you considering?

You were launching too low with too much spin in the KBS Tours? 

 

I was under the impression that the Tours were higher launching than the Modus family of the same weight. 

 

Did anyone else make this switch? I'm playing KBS Tour S+ 125g right now and am considering a shift to the Modus 125. 

Any insights welcome.

[AcesAndHoles]

On 2/22/2020 at 7:51 PM, PMookie said:

I’ve played numerous shafts in the past: DG S300, S400, X100. PX PXI 6.5, LZ 6.5, PX 6.0. KBS Tour, KBS Tour V.

Each time I’ve played a shaft, it was what was determined best in a fitting. Same with the Modus 120X I play now in my Z785 irons. Remember, each iron head has some different attributes than the next one, and maybe it spins the ball more or less, or launches the ball higher or lower, so the same shaft in two different irons may not be the best fit.

I just go with what works best with each head in the fitting. Heck, in this last iron fitting, what was best in the Honma 747 Tour V was not Modus, and it wasn’t the best in the Vega iron either........



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This is almost the exact switch I'm considering. I hit the Zx7s last night and let's just say my better half will not be happy if I find somewhere to try these out on grass and they still hold up. Gentleman working the sim suggested I go to the X100 or a PX LZ

Your input is greatly appreciated!

[ballplayer002003]

Here is my two cents, I played the Modus 120x in my old set of Mizuno's JPX 900 forged and loved them.  Last year I was selected to test the Ping g410 irons and went in for my fitting.  They used the Mizuno shaft fitting tool and I hit a few shots as one does.  What the fitting tool said I should use was the Dynamic Gold X100 120 shafts.    Yes, I like my shafts heavy not light as most golfers would scoff at that idea.  It DID NOT recommend the Modus for me.  Anyway, I had the Pings built with the Dynamic Gold shafts and played them for a while.  The DG shafts felt like a 2X4 with an iron head one one end and grip on the other.  I didn't mind that.  I had no problem hitting them.  Eventually, I determined the Ping's were not for me anymore, so I bought the Callaway Apex combo set '19.  What shaft did I put in them...I went back to the Modus 120x. 

Yup, the shaft analyzer did not recommend the Modus AT ALL, yet I am playing it anyway.  I find the Modus to be exactly what I want in a shaft.  It's launch is ideal for me.  I can swing smooth or I can stand on one and the shaft reacts how I want it to.  I find the shaft to be very smooth in transition and I have a quick transition, my swing is like Rahm or Finau, short back swing quick transition.  Distance is not a problem either.  I hit 7 iron 170, I don't need to hit it any further.  If you have not tried the Modus yet, I would recommend you try it. 

[bens197]

2 minutes ago, ballplayer002003 said:

Here is my two cents, I played the Modus 120x in my old set of Mizuno's JPX 900 forged and loved them.  Last year I was selected to test the Ping g410 irons and went in for my fitting.  They used the Mizuno shaft fitting tool and I hit a few shots as one does.  What the fitting tool said I should use was the Dynamic Gold X100 120 shafts.    Yes, I like my shafts heavy not light as most golfers would scoff at that idea.  It DID NOT recommend the Modus for me.  Anyway, I had the Pings built with the Dynamic Gold shafts and played them for a while.  The DG shafts felt like a 2X4 with an iron head one one end and grip on the other.  I didn't mind that.  I had no problem hitting them.  Eventually, I determined the Ping's were not for me anymore, so I bought the Callaway Apex combo set '19.  What shaft did I put in them...I went back to the Modus 120x. 

Yup, the shaft analyzer did not recommend the Modus AT ALL, yet I am playing it anyway.  I find the Modus to be exactly what I want in a shaft.  It's launch is ideal for me.  I can swing smooth or I can stand on one and the shaft reacts how I want it to.  I find the shaft to be very smooth in transition and I have a quick transition, my swing is like Rahm or Finau, short back swing quick transition.  Distance is not a problem either.  I hit 7 iron 170, I don't need to hit it any further.  If you have not tried the Modus yet, I would recommend you try it. 

I love this and really support this logic.  One variable that used to be significant in selecting clubs prior to the data driven / launch monitor fittings was feel.  

How many clubs have you lost confidence in because of looks and feel?  Our cognitive bias will steer our confidence and just speaking for myself, when a club feels solid when I hit it, I am 100x more likely to feel a LOT better standing over that shot.  

 

[ballplayer002003]

9 minutes ago, bens197 said:

I love this and really support this logic.  One variable that used to be significant in selecting clubs prior to the data driven / launch monitor fittings was feel.  

How many clubs have you lost confidence in because of looks and feel?  Our cognitive bias will steer our confidence and just speaking for myself, when a club feels solid when I hit it, I am 100x more likely to feel a LOT better standing over that shot.  

 

That's just it, we are losing our own personal feel with clubs nowadays.  The Modus just feels right to me.  Am I maximizing my iron shaft?  Maybe not, but if the shaft feels good to me, gives me the flight characteristics that I'm seeking and gives me the distance I want, why would I NOT choose it over what a computer is telling me?

[jroot327]

Got fitted last year and the 120 were the smoothest feeling for me by far, even in x stiff. PX was a no go, and the Modus 130 just felt like I was working a bit hard compared to the 120.

[bladestriker]

Mizuno Optimizer has not previously recommended Modus because they didn’t offer it. I do see it on their shaft list options now though.

[RickyBobby_PR]

7 hours ago, bladestriker said:

Mizuno Optimizer has not previously recommended Modus because they didn’t offer it. I do see it on their shaft list options now though.

It’s a stock option too. There’s a set of jpx 921 forged iirc at my pro shop with the 105 r in them 

[Reid Thompson]

On 2/22/2020 at 7:02 PM, bens197 said:

For those of you who currently play the Modus, what were you playing before you switched and what compelled you to make the change?

KBS.  Hard to kick out but they did. 

[bens197]

1 hour ago, Reid Thompson said:

KBS.  Hard to kick out but they did. 

KBS were good and there is no disputing that. 
 

Modus 120 for me were better. 

[Reid Thompson]

17 hours ago, bens197 said:

KBS were good and there is no disputing that. 
 

Modus 120 for me were better. 

Exact same for me.  KBS TOur S to soft stepped 120 Modus S. 

[RobotDoctor]

On 2/25/2021 at 12:40 PM, RollingGreens said:

totally correct. The way the 120’allows the club to release vs the s300 is night and day. The s300 feel very board, similarly to the kbs c taper. It just doesn’t feel like their is a lot of love and forgiveness. I think the modus has the ability to be forgiving enough for the weekend golfer but specialized enough for the golf junkies!

 

As a golfer who gamed Dynamic Gold S300 shafts from much of 1987 through 2014 (gamed DG X100 shafts from 1990 through 1997) I definitely agree with the club release.  When I was younger I had no issues with loading the shaft and the release.  As I am older I really love the Modus 120s!

[RollingGreens]

33 minutes ago, RobotDoctor said:

 

As a golfer who gamed Dynamic Gold S300 shafts from much of 1987 through 2014 (gamed DG X100 shafts from 1990 through 1997) I definitely agree with the club release.  When I was younger I had no issues with loading the shaft and the release.  As I am older I really love the Modus 120s!

Similar to talking about a driver shaft feeling boardybor how some guys say the old hzrdus smoke shaft felt like a telephone pole I’ll take all the help I can get these days 

[RobotDoctor]

On 6/6/2021 at 12:57 PM, RollingGreens said:

Similar to talking about a driver shaft feeling boardybor how some guys say the old hzrdus smoke shaft felt like a telephone pole I’ll take all the help I can get these days 

Absolutely.  There are many golfers who can swing those telephone poles.  Good for them.  Then there are many who are vain and have egos the size of the state of Alaska who play them because of the "look at me" syndrome.  Good for them as well.  As for me, I'll play the softer, less macho, shaft and let my score provide the machismo.