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2 minutes ago, cnosil said:

Sounds like a small conflict but if you are putting ok, why change putters?  

Because. Haha.  Maybe I could putt great?

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10 minutes ago, Shankster said:

 But I’ve never put any effort into it, practice or otherwise. 

 

4 minutes ago, Shankster said:

Because. Haha.  Maybe I could putt great?

See above;   Putter won’t fix lack effort 🤣

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8 hours ago, Shankster said:

I literally just hit the ball with my putter.  I don’t think about it at all.  Line it up, and hit it.

I have an Anser, I can feel it twisting in my hands. Don’t like that.  
 

I’m all about making things as simple as possible.

I know you started by saying you wanted the B.2 blade, so that leads me to assume you can't get past the look of the DF 2.1?

I've had both, and sold my B.2 on the bay and actually made a few bucks due to good timing. The forgiveness of the higher MOI mallet won the day for me (as I could give a 🐀 a$$ what it looks like if it is getting more balls to the bottom of the cup in the least amount of strokes).  Most folks find the L.A.B. putters to do a great job of starting the ball on line, but that is by no means universal.

I get the best distance control by actually looking at the flag (or other aim point if there is break to the putt) and letting my brain figure out how to hit it to get it there. I liken it to playing corn hole, you look at the target, not at the bag when you make the toss. The forgiveness of the DF 2.1 to either toe or heel strikes makes it virtually a non-issue if I miss the exact center of the face.

For me, the tech WORKS, as I have never putted better.

And now you have my 2 cents worth.

P.S. do the remote video fitting they offer (as you can't beat the price of FREE). That way  you'll know your specs, and can head off to the bay and find one that matches (unless you are very far off the norm, then it might take a while). As long as you keep the headcover on it when not in use, you'll be able to sell it for what you bought it for, to either put towards the purchase of a new one (if you feel the need), or move on in your search, with your wallet unscathed.

That's probably 3 cents worth at this point...

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I'm decidedly brand agnostic -- but a bit less so with my recent change from a PING driver

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2 minutes ago, Tom D. said:

If know you started by saying you wanted the B.2 blade, so that leads me to assume you can't get past the look of the DF 2.1?

I've had both, and sold my B.2 on the bay and actually made a few bucks due to good timing. The forgiveness of the higher MOI mallet won the day for me (as I could give a 🐀 a$$ what it looks like if it is getting more balls to the bottom of the cup in the least amount of strokes).  Most folks find the L.A.B. putters to do a great job of starting the ball on line, but that is by no means universal.

I get the best distance control by actually looking at the flag (or other aim point if there is break to the putt) and letting my brain figure out how to hit it to get it there. I liken it to playing corn hole, you look at the target, not at the bag when you make the toss. The forgiveness of the DF 2.1 to either toe or heel strikes makes it virtually a non-issue if I miss the exact center of the face.

For me, the tech WORKS, as I have never putted better.

And now you have my 2 cents worth.

P.S. do the remote video fitting they offer (as you can't beat the price of FREE). That way  you'll know your specs, and can head off to the bay and find one that matches (unless you are very far off the norm, then it might take a while). As long as you keep the headcover on it when not in use, you'll be able to sell it for what you bought it for, to either put towards the purchase of a new one (if you feel the need), or move on in your search.

That's probably 3 cents worth at this point...

Yeah.  That thing is hideous.  Even if I sank everything I don’t think I could get over the looks.  But you never know.

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1 hour ago, Shankster said:

Yeah.  That thing is hideous.  Even if I sank everything I don’t think I could get over the looks.  But you never know.

Well, if you're going to let vanity stand in the way of writing a lower number at the end of the scorecard, I can't help you.

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I'm decidedly brand agnostic -- but a bit less so with my recent change from a PING driver

:titelist-small: - TSi2 10.5 Driver - Tensei AV Raw Blue 55 R

:titelist-small: - TS2 4W - Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6 RS TS2 7W - Alta CB 65 R

:cobra-small:- Baffler 23* - Aldila NV-HL 65 R

th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg - Original Series 0211 - 5-PW - MMT 80 S

:cleveland-small: - CBX2 50 / 54 / 58 - Rotex

image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png - Directed Force 2.1 (Nickel) - KBS Tour - Press No. II 3*

:Snell:- MTB  Black

datrek-brand_1456761019__86876.original.jpg.7c24f9ae71c7730ce29a828226731487.jpg - DG Lite II cart bag attached via Top-Lok to image.png.77fe07cbfea697deca64bd4a4263a151.png - Quad XL and Tracked by :ShotScope: - V3

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13 minutes ago, Tom D. said:

Well, if you're going to let vanity stand in the way of writing a lower number at the end of the scorecard, I can't help you.

Definitely not vanity in my way.  If it doesn’t look good, I’m not going to use it.  No harm no foul, I’m glad it works for you.

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8 hours ago, Shankster said:

Really considering the blade, so I can un-torque myself as they say.

Talk me into or out of it.

Hit a single 20 footer with the B.2 (stainless) yesterday at PGASS and was already placing it back on the rack before the ball dropped neatly into the middle. Despite the perfect lifetime average, I have zero urge to revisit that head, as it possesses all the personality of a fresh stick of Crayola sidewalk chalk at address.

My personal opinion of the B.2 aside, I’ll take this opportunity to drop the annual suggestion that you might instead consider devoting flat stick practice time commensurate with the ratio of strokes it typically accounts for on your card.

On the subject of actual effort - DLK’s putter LAB: position camera down the line, film stroke, review footage, resist urge to heave contents of stomach, make a plan, get to work, putt better.

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37 minutes ago, downlowkey said:

Hit a single 20 footer with the B.2 (stainless) yesterday at PGASS and was already placing it back on the rack before the ball dropped neatly into the middle. Despite the perfect lifetime average, I have zero urge to revisit that head, as it possesses all the personality of a fresh stick of Crayola sidewalk chalk at address.

My personal opinion of the B.2 aside, I’ll take this opportunity to drop the annual suggestion that you might instead consider devoting flat stick practice time commensurate with the ratio of strokes it typically accounts for on your card.

On the subject of actual effort - DLK’s putter LAB: position camera down the line, film stroke, review footage, resist urge to heave contents of stomach, make a plan, get to work, putt better.

If I’m going to practice I’m going to require a broomstick.  The putting set up is terrible on my back.

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Hi, putted with this putter all season. Will continue to use until they come up with a smaller head. Seems easier to control the speed on any green speed and length of putt; feeling of wow I can actually putt. Funny, this year my putting stats are better and have not practiced. For me, the putter has made it easier to succeed. 

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The lab 2.1 putter is deadly from 18 feet in the part that takes work is the longer putts I was not willing to work long enough on that part it is a good feeling putter and yes pricy and big but anyone who struggles with putting and willing to put the time in to learn a new putter it will help their game 

I am just so good with my Seemore elected to stick with it

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1 hour ago, Shankster said:

If I’m going to practice I’m going to require a broomstick.  The putting set up is terrible on my back.

That is probably the way you ought to go.  L.A.B. is one of the few doing broomsticks.

I'm decidedly brand agnostic -- but a bit less so with my recent change from a PING driver

:titelist-small: - TSi2 10.5 Driver - Tensei AV Raw Blue 55 R

:titelist-small: - TS2 4W - Graphite Design Tour AD DI 6 RS TS2 7W - Alta CB 65 R

:cobra-small:- Baffler 23* - Aldila NV-HL 65 R

th.jpg.d6e2abdaeb04f007fd259c979f389de6.jpg - Original Series 0211 - 5-PW - MMT 80 S

:cleveland-small: - CBX2 50 / 54 / 58 - Rotex

image.png.49fcc172a1ed0010d930fbe1c5dc8b79.png - Directed Force 2.1 (Nickel) - KBS Tour - Press No. II 3*

:Snell:- MTB  Black

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44 minutes ago, Tom D. said:

That is probably the way you ought to go.  L.A.B. is one of the few doing broomsticks.

Yeah.  As far as not liking the way it looks, I did roll one a while back.  I’m very picky, I don’t like offset in my irons, prefer smaller club heads, etc.

It isn’t because I “want a blade”… if the club doesn’t give me confidence There is no point in me even trying to use it.

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I have had time with both the B2 and the 2.1, more with the 2.1. In short I am back with a traditional putter. 
 

Between the 2 LAB putters I liked the 2.1 better. Speed control is an issue with the 2.1, you have to hit it harder but the 2.1 starts the ball online every time. You just have to get the speed and read right. 
 

All that being said putting has always been a strength and I didn’t see enough of an advantage to make me want to switch. It made the bad days better but the good days were the same. 

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On 9/3/2021 at 5:59 PM, Shankster said:

Yeah.  As far as not liking the way it looks, I did roll one a while back.  I’m very picky, I don’t like offset in my irons, prefer smaller club heads, etc.

It isn’t because I “want a blade”… if the club doesn’t give me confidence There is no point in me even trying to use it.

On 9/3/2021 at 5:12 PM, Tom D. said:

That is probably the way you ought to go.  L.A.B. is one of the few doing broomsticks.

I bit the bullet a couple weeks ago and my DF 2.1 50" Broomstick came in today. I had to work today and then watch my kiddos after school so I was only able to putt indoors on my 10' Birdiemaker mat with my PuttOut. First putt from 5' was perfect into the PuttOut. I about freaked.

I then proceeded to make 35 putts in a row from 3' to 9' in length, varying the distances so I didn't get more than 2 or 3 at the same length. I have never had a "perfect putt" from 7' on my mat (until today).

Things I noticed with the DF 2.1 50" compared to my Ping Half Craz-E Long 50" putter:

  • Setup with this thing is amazing. I ground the club behind the ball and it just sits there - exactly on the target line. My Ping always wanted to rotate open (toe back, heel forward) when you set it on the ground. I had to manipulate it back to square with my top hand and then tightly grip it to keep it square. I have not had a putter sit so stable and square since anchoring was allowed. This DF 2.1 makes alignment a breeze.
  • The weight/balance of the head is fantastic for the broomstick/long putter stroke. I could feel the head all the way back and through...and I don't have to grip with any major right hand pressure or manipulate with hands/fingers to keep the putter on line. Again, have not felt that smooth of a stroke since anchoring (and I'm not anchored!). 
  • The roll is so true. I hand-line my balls (because Titleist doesn't triple track) with a long green center line and 2 shorter blue side lines. The ball rolls so true that I can see the lines go perfectly end over end all the way into the PuttOut. Like on TV when they show the slow-mo of a pro's lined ball rolling into the cup, I could clearly see the lines going end over end. Every putt. This was not the case with my Ping.
  • Every putt I hit went into the PuttOut and rolled back to 1-2' (when I didn't get a "perfect putt"). With my Ping (an insert-faced putter), I had speed inconsistencies, especially when I didn't hit the insert square. I had no such inconsistencies with the DF 2.1 (and I didn't leave a single putt short from 8-9' - which I have done previously with the Ping).
  • My kids (6 and 8 years old) had a blast trying to make me miss after I kept bragging that I "hadn't missed yet" with my new putter. 

I'll come back to provide some on-course reviews/stats (I have Arccos) as soon as I have a chance to get it on some grass, but it was a living room hero this evening.

 

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L.A.B. Broomstick 50" on course review.

Round 1

I arrived early to partake of the putting green and as expected, nuances such as break make putting much more difficult than the living room. Initial reactions from the putting green is that I have no issue rolling this putter, as the first half dozen or so putts all ran by the hole by a good 2-3 feet. Lag putting was a bit worse (running by 7-10'), but I hit the course and proceeded to own the first 7 holes, receiving positive strokes gained on Arccos for each (40' - 4' 2-putt on 1, 6' 1-putt (for bogey) on 2, 5' 1-putt on 3 (par), 5' 1-putt on 4 (for bogey again!!!), 54' -4' 2-putt on 5, 5' 1-putt (BIRDIE) on 6, 12' 1-putt (for par) on 7). On 8 I 2-putted (21' and 4') for par. On 9, I had a 14' that I finally got the speed right on, missed behind the hole, but tapped in. 13 putts on the front 9. 

Sadly, the back wasn't as kind. I didn't have a single 1-putt on the back and 3 putted 13 (though that one was from 63'). However, the main difference between the front and back was my proximity to the hole, as the closest putts I had were 15' (on 10, 15 and 17), 20', 25', 41', 45' and 52'. To say I was pleased with just a single 3-putt is an understatement. 

32 putts total and based on my Arccos 7 handicap, for the round I was +3.5 strokes gained putting. Unreal first round with a putter.

Round 2

I was able to play 18 today and my home course (which is super dry again suddenly here in SouthCentral Texas) and the greens were lush and super wet near the sprinklers and patchy at best where the water isn't as perfect, so speed varied from green to green so I was prepared for speed to be tricky, but that said I actually had much better distance control as a whole compared to round 1. I had neutral to positive strokes gained on the first 5 holes and caught fire on the back until the last 3 holes. Hole 1 was a 16' - 2' 2-putt, hole 2 23' - tap in 2-putt, hole 3 6' 1-putt to convert the up and down, hole 4 was a 26' - 5' comebacker 2-putt (I was so happy to not 3 putt this one as the original putt was on the wrong tier of the green and was severely downhill), on 5 I burned the edge on a 12' birdie putt (misread) and tap in for 2 putts, 6 was very similar (21' edge burner - 3' comebacker), 7 was a 27' sidewinder (10' of break easy) that went behind the hole and left a tap in 2 putt, on 8 I had a 63' for birdie that I left 2' left of the cup for an easy 2-putt, on 9 I bladed a 6-iron to the back fringe with the hole 3 paces on leading to an 80-footer which is cozied up to 5'...and promptly missed low side. Stupid 3 putt! 18 putts on the front 9, but I still felt as if I had putted really well.

On the back the putter saved my arse. 11' one putt on 10 (for bogey after driving it into a hazard), 22' - tap in par 2-putt on 11, 19' edge burner 3' comback 2-putt on 12, 46' - 4' 2 putt par on 13, 31 FOOT double breaker for birdie on 14, 7' straight up the hill for birdie on 15, 14' - 3' comeback for par on 16, and then I got cocky (and rushed due to the impending sunset) and missed a 6' for par on 17 (low side), and 5' for par on 18 (high side). 15 putts on the back.

33 putts total and based on my Arccos 7 handicap, for the round I was +2.5 strokes gained putting this round. 

For reference, over my last 25 rounds on Arccos, I'm a +0.2 strokes gained putting, so these 2 rounds are a vast improvement from the old Ping. 

I love the roll the putter puts on the ball. It sits so square on the ground when you align with the ball line it just doesn't move. It's such a balanced and repeatable stroke. I'm sold...hope this helps if you were on the fence to try one.

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