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Being a lefty, I don’t get to test every new piece of shiny that comes out on the market. Therefore, I’ve never touched a Scotty Cameron Newport 2. So I’m curious, what’s it like, compared to a Ping Anser? Would I be able to tell the difference between the two?

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Can you tell a difference? Yes. Which one is better for you who knows? 

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Maybe. Putters today are based on the original anser. Some will tell you nothing beats a scotty and others will say scottys are garbage and everything between those two sentiments.

like any piece of equipment it’s up to the person that’s going to use it to determine if they will notice a difference, be worth the price, is it better than something else and so on.

I haven’t rolled anything new in the last 2-3 years from ping or Callaway and haven’t rolled a toulon since they merged with Callaway. I went back to scotty and the np2 or similar style head is my preference. I do like the 2016 m1 if not playing an np2. I want a fan of the inserts in the scottys but the 2018 version was much better than previous and from what I hear the new select line without the insert is really good. 

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Being a lefty, I don’t get to test every new piece of shiny that comes out on the market. Therefore, I’ve never touched a Scotty Cameron Newport 2. So I’m curious, what’s like, compared to a Ping Anser? Would I be able to tell the difference between the two?

If I blindfolded you and handed you putters you may be able to feel differences. Would that Cameron be “better” from a feel or performance perspective? You are the only person that can judge that.

When I first started being a putter junkie I went down the Cameron route, now that I am more knowledgeable about putting and putters Cameron is just another putter and really isn’t anything special.

If you intent is resale go Cameron. If it is for a gamer find the putter that works best and ignore the brand.

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Ive asked myself the same question I couple of my RH buddies tell me that nothing feels like a Scotty.. being a LH does not give us a lot of options.


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A friend noticed I was toeing up lately. My Evnroll ER6 is not flat on the bottom. Be that as it may, I switched to a SC Kombi. Thinking more about it, I reached into my closet and pulled out my old Slotline Inertia, Slotline SSI, Nike Method Core, Ping Ketsch(original) and Bellam- Winmore blade. I spent the better part of an afternoon practicing to see which was the easiest and best to putt with flat on the ground.

I decided to try the Ketsch for awhile. It rests flat and rolls smooth. Easy to align perpendicular to the putting line. Easy to set my eyes above the ball with.




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Also a lefty and years ago got into the putter ho camp. Anyway sold off a LOT of putters about 10 years ago and kept only gamers, I ended up selling all the Scottys , there were purty but no better than any other.


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... I have always found Scotty's have an excellent balance. Seems like a small thing but I think a putters balance is essential to a consistent putter head path. I have tried to use several Scotty's over the years but most just don't work well for me. The biggest exception is a JAT, heel shafted Segio inspired putter that I did use for almost 2 seasons. But I always end up going back to an 8802 style putter. As others have said, Scotty's are a nice putter, no more no less with no guarantee you will putt better or worse with one. I have 4 at the moment and am waiting for the right time to sell my Inspired By Brad Faxon Limited Edition putter but I have a Newport 2.5 I should have sold a long time ago. 

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13 hours ago, chisag said:

... I have always found Scotty's have an excellent balance. Seems like a small thing but I think a putters balance is essential to a consistent putter head path. 

This is a great point and the balance required for each person is their own.   Over the past few weeks, I have been testing putters for this years most wanted and since you have to try putters you wouldn't normally pick up, you really start to notice how some putters just seem to stay on the right path for your stroke while others seem fight against what you are trying to do.   This all comes down to weight, CoG, offset, and other design aspects of the putter, not the name that is on the putter.  

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I have played a scotty for over a decade. I think it is a great putter that feels fantastic, but i think a lot of it is mental also. All the "good" players used a scotty back in the day so I did the same. Now I've had it for so long and I putt so well that I wouldn't dare change. So any other putter has a near impossible standard to live up to for me.

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On 3/13/2020 at 6:30 PM, cnosil said:

If you intent is resale go Cameron. If it is for a gamer find the putter that works best and ignore the brand.

I happened to be checking a buy/sell/trade FB page, and boy, you are not kidding about resale on Camerons. I had no idea a club could retain value like that.

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2 hours ago, berkeleybob said:

I happened to be checking a buy/sell/trade FB page, and boy, you are not kidding about resale on Camerons. I had no idea a club could retain value like that.

I’m guessing you are referring to a circle t of some sort. Much different beast than an otr putter when it comes to holding value 

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14 hours ago, RickyBobby_PR said:

I’m guessing you are referring to a circle t of some sort. Much different beast than an otr putter when it comes to holding value 

While circle T's do carry premium prices,  even OTR Camerons hold their value pretty well.  

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While circle T's do carry premium prices,  even OTR Camerons hold their value pretty well.  

Scottys to me are a little more than putters. They are well made, finished and balanced. They have a solid following that really love these putters and have become iconic. Having Pros use them and shown on TV every week doesn’t hurt.
Some of the putter designs aren’t really new. If you look at old Pings, TP Mills and other older putter makers you will see where Scottys got the ideas.
I’ve had more than a few and I’ve enjoyed them and putted well with them as I have with other makers also. I may own one again, never know.



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5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
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Personal opinion: way overpriced. Buying a name, nothing more.


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Personal opinion: way overpriced. Buying a name, nothing more.


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Overpriced, yup probably.

Saw a shipment of Scottys come in at the local Golf Store about 3 weeks ago. It was their “allotment” maybe 6-8 putters all right hand and they are purty. Price tag $395.00.


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Left Hand, 

Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

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10 hours ago, cnosil said:

While circle T's do carry premium prices,  even OTR Camerons hold their value pretty well.  

Depends on the model and year. A 2016 m1 is worth just over 1/4th the price. The np2 usually does better as do some other models especially the older classic ones.

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Overpriced, yup probably.

Saw a shipment of Scottys come in at the local Golf Store about 3 weeks ago. It was their “allotment” maybe 6-8 putters all right hand and they are purty. Price tag $395.00.


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And still cheaper than a Toulon

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I have a Scotty Kombi Select that I cut down to 33”. Use it every now and then.....very smooth roll.


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Depends on which Ping and which Scotty you want to compare. The last few years with the insert Scotty used I was not a huge fan. Feel is what you perceive it to be and well very subjective. What I think is soft and smooth may feel mushy and terrible to someone else.


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Depends on which Ping and which Scotty you want to compare. The last few years with the insert Scotty used I was not a huge fan. Feel is what you perceive it to be and well very subjective. What I think is soft and smooth may feel mushy and terrible to someone else.


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My favorite Scotty Circa 62, Ping Anser 2 BeCu. Both non-insert and entirely different styles and balance.


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5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
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My favorite Scotty Circa 62, Ping Anser 2 BeCu. Both non-insert and entirely different styles and balance.


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Good choices. These are the two best “feeling” Scottys I own. One was a good chunk of change and the other was not. I always loved the Studio Design line and own a few. The GoLo is a welded CS with a deep mill face, blackout shaft, leather grip done in the bronze finish.


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Good choices. These are the two best “feeling” Scottys I own. One was a good chunk of change and the other was not. I always loved the Studio Design line and own a few. The GoLo is a welded CS with a deep mill face, blackout shaft, leather grip done in the bronze finish.


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I’ve been limited being left hand so I deal with the scraps lefty’s get.


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5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
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I’ve been limited being left hand so I deal with the scraps lefty’s get.


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I just went back to the broomstick, I know how you feel.


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Some people like the big name and paying top shelf prices. Others like saving a buck or two.
Game what works for you.

Agreed. I own plenty from both categories and some of my best putter finds have been on second hand racks.


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Agreed. I own plenty from both categories and some of my best putter finds have been on second hand racks.


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Second hand racks can carry some real gems. Unfortunately good, used LH putters are like finding a Unicorn.


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Left Hand, 

Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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Second hand racks can carry some real gems. Unfortunately good, used LH putters are like finding a Unicorn.


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Keep looking. I just found a PXG Gunboat long putter from 2nd Swing. Never know what you may find.


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I never miss looking at the used section. I really envy you right hand guys with the great clubs/putters that show up on that rack.


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Left Hand, 

Driver; PXG 0311XF Cypher 50 gr Senior  
5 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr       
7 wood; Ping 425, Senior Shaft 55 gr      
5 hybrid; Cally Steelhead, Hazardous R2     
Irons; Mizuno JPX 923HM 7-GW Recoil 460 F2
Wedges; Titleist S9 54*, Mizuno SW 56*

Putter; Waaay too many to list

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