ChiefMikeOfficer Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 There seems to be a big counterfeit grip operation going on around the web. I ran into this myself, and eBay was not willing to contact other buyers of the counterfeit products (they will only take action if the buyer reports it themselves, but many buyers were happy with the product), so I'm posting here in hopes that word can start getting around. There's a stigma around bargain hunting on eBay that leads to shaming the buyer with the "what did you expect?" question, but counterfeits are not just a bargain-hunting problem. I know this is an active issue for Golf Pride, and they even say so on their own website, but it may affect other manufacturers as well. If you or someone you know purchased grips on eBay, Craigslist, Amazon, or another e-commerce site from a seller that's not an authorized retailer for that brand, they might be counterfeit - make sure the buyer is aware, and urge them to take action with the seller and/or platform if they end up being counterfeit. Obviously this is not going to affect 100% of purchases, but I bought a set of fake grips off of eBay, the specific eBay seller had a lot of similar grip auctions (even offering to sell me a second lot in a different color), and I saw a lot of listings from other sellers that looked nearly identical to mine (just with different models/colors). My mistake: I've been using Golf Pride MCC grips for a long time. I've trying to get my hands on some different colored grips for a while, sick of the stock color schemes from Golf Pride. I couldn't get my hands on Golf Pride's super limited stuff (e.g. I really wanted the PGA Championship color scheme, but who knows how many were actually made and how to get them) and the new MCC Teams color schemes aren't coming out until closer to mid-season, so I went searching. I found some MCC Whiteout grips on eBay in the Green/Yellow color scheme, which is something I remember seeing in the past (in fact, they are featured on the old GP YouTube video), so I took the bait -- I expected the material would hold up well enough over time, pricing was on the lower end but consistent with old clearance prices for the same grips at legitimate retailers, and other red flags didn't show as red until after I clicked "Buy" (e.g. listing claimed Idaho but product shipped from what appeared to be a UPS Store in Florida; when asked, seller could not tell me what year they were made). After receiving them, I looked a little deeper at GP specs and ran some tests -- I found cosmetic flaws (see photo 3 - lines don't match), inconsistent grip weights (GP said 49.5g, mine ranged from 51-55g), and even inconsistent grip lengths (weight differences appeared to be explained by length inconsistency - see photo 2, which shows a slight length difference). I had mostly decided that these were counterfeit, but I decided to contact Golf Pride directly to see if they could give me tips to determine authenticity and report it to them if they turned out counterfeit -- GP did way more than I expected, even accepting photos to review with their quality department to confirm they are, in fact, counterfeits. I gave them all the info I had to help with an investigation, but given the return address(es), I think the investigation is going to hit a dead end and these guys will continue selling a bad product. In the end, I got my refund and learned a lesson. A lot of others have fallen for the same thing but are unaware of the issue. Some might not care. Regardless of the situation, if you're looking for an alternative or just trying to save a few bucks, beware - I'm not saying definitely don't buy off of these sites, but if you do, use extra caution. StrokerAce, GolfSpy MPR and JAGolfore 3 Quote Driver: Stealth Plus 8* (adjusted to 8.75*), Mitsubishi Diamana ZF 70 X Flex (New toy incoming!) Fairway: Stealth2 Plus, 15* (adjusted to 14.25*) w/ Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 7X Irons: U505 1 Iron (16*), T200 "Utility Build" 3 and 4 irons, all with Graphite Design Tour AD-IZ 95 X Flex, T100S 5-9 with Nippon Pro Modus 120 X Flex (2021 MGS Test). These things are monsters. Wedges: SM9 46.10, 54.12, and 58.08, all with custom etchings & KBS Tour Masters-themed shafts, X-flex (CHA Post) Putter: Total headcase and Putter Ho. Down to two main options in the rotation (one mallet, one blade), but have 4-5 by the basement putting green that might make it in the bag at some point this year... Mallet: Mezz XL 36" Orange; Blade: Link.1 w/Accra White shaft & grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrokerAce Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Yeesh.... I just bought a set of CHAMPKEY on Amazon... hopefully nobody bothers faking cheap grips. Thanks for the warning. tony@CIC 1 Quote Driver- Cobra Aerojet LS Woods- Cobra LTD 3w 15*, 5W 19*, F9 24* Irons- XXIO X (6-A) Wedges- Callaway Jaws Raw (54/58) Putter- Bettinardi BB56 Ball- Maxfli Tour X Buggy- Motocaddy M7 GPS Remote Electric Caddy Bag- Motocaddy Dry-Series Proudly testing for 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterygolfguy Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Yeah those are pretty sketchy. Thanks for the heads up You are a gentleman and a scholar! Quote F7 Driver Fly Z+ 3 and 5 wood F9 irons 5 thru GW King Black Wedges 52/56/60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchunksalot Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 Thanks for the heads up and I'm glad you got your money back. It's a shame those are counterfeit, that's a great looking color scheme. Sent from my SM-N975U using MyGolfSpy mobile app tony@CIC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhartmann34 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 I've seen fakes on eBay and try to report them. It's unfortunate, but lots of fake golf products coming from overseas. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk tony@CIC 1 Quote Driver: G400 (8*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Fairway: G400 (14.5*) with Diamana Kai'li X-stiff Irons: Crossover 3 iron (19*) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shaft AP3 (4/5) and AP2 (6-PW) with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Wedges: Scor 50*, 54*, and 58* with TT Dynamic Gold 120 S400 shafts Putter: Pro Platinum Newport 2 Midslant Handicap: 3 Location: Illinois...until i can get my wife to move to a warmer climate Right Handed: Although sometimes I wonder if left handed would suit me better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED13 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 eBay and Amazon pretend to care about counterfeit and shoddy merchandise but only react when their backs are to the wall. They allow it because they make a lot of money allowing companies on their sites to sell these goods. Another reason to support your local brick and mortar stores as well as trusted online retailers. cnosil and braincramp 2 Quote Driver - Ping G410 Woods - Callaway Rogue 5 wood Hybrid - Titleist TS2 21 degree Irons - Taylormade P790 5-PW Wedges - Taylormade MG3 50, 54, 58, SM9 60 Putter - Mizuno Black Carbon BC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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