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The return of the king to the throne it appears. 

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2 minutes ago, Berg Ryman said:

The return of the king to the throne it appears. 

Yup.  No surprise there.  And a 1-2 finish on top of that

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Interesting way they displayed the information and results now. All based on a % related to the median. Probably best so people don't argue on the numbers and possibly removes outliers.

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After hitting last years Cobra driver, I'm very surprised to see the 2020 model listed as most Forgiving as everything I've read, doesn't seem like they made any major adjustments.  Maybe it's just my swing characteristics, but I found myself hitting a lot of pulls and hooks with it compared to other drivers on market.  Maybe they've adjusted this year's model as I can't say I have hit it.  

Certainly not surprised by the Ping getting top honors with Callaway trailing.  This quarantine has me considering picking up a used Ping LST as I've wanted one since the G model but just have not pulled the trigger.  I was fit at a demo day early last year for fun, but had just picked up a TS3 a month or two prior.

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Driver:  image.png.3c6db1120d888f669e07d4a8f890b3f1.pngMavrik Sub Zero 9* (Set to 10) Ventus Blue 6X

2 Hybrid: :titelist-small: 818 H2 Hybrid Tensei Blue 80 X

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Well some early results I've seen with TM MAX-D seem to correlate with the results. 

Hopefully we get a swing speed breakdown in a few weeks like we did last year. 

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That's three good years in a row for PING

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4 hours ago, juspoole said:

After hitting last years Cobra driver, I'm very surprised to see the 2020 model listed as most Forgiving as everything I've read, doesn't seem like they made any major adjustments.  Maybe it's just my swing characteristics, but I found myself hitting a lot of pulls and hooks with it compared to other drivers on market.  Maybe they've adjusted this year's model as I can't say I have hit it.  

 

... Of course the Cobra Xtreme (rated Most Forgiving) is a different driver than the Speed Zone which is very similar to last years F9. I am playing the Xtreme this season after playing the F9 last year. I would not have upgraded to the SZ because as you stated not any major adjustments, although early reviews from some say it is a little more forgiving. Since my one complaint about the F9 was I wish it were more forgiving, it appears the Xtreme has done just that.

... I have always felt driver testing with the stock shaft makes the testing difficult to make any conclusions since a faster hitting high launch player will have drastically different results than a slower swinging lower launching player, even if they are hitting different flexes. But I was very impressed to read players are actually fit for stock offerings making the tests much more conclusive for a wider range of players. Testing the Ping G410 plus with the Tour 65/75, Alta CB 55, EvenFlow Black 75, Tensei CK Orange and Alta 44 Distanza covers every conceivable style of swing. 👍👍👍 

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I'm surprised the announcement of the results didn't crash the site. I also didn't expect Ping to take home the crown considering all the buzz over the SIM and Mavrik. Guess that goes to show that you gotta watch out for the quiet ones. Congrats to Ping, and thank you to all of those that contributed to the testing.

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I'm surprised the announcement of the results didn't crash the site. I also didn't expect Ping to take home the crown considering all the buzz over the SIM and Mavrik. Guess that goes to show that you gotta watch out for the quiet ones. Congrats to Ping, and thank you to all of those that contributed to the testing.

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Not surprising considering the total driving. In pretty much every video for every level G410/LST were exceptional performers regardless of seeing speed and level. Sound and Look are subjective and frankly the only metrics that one could know l knock it.

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I liked reading about how the testing process has been improved for this year.

Keeping what works and evolving to provide the best possible data for us.

Nice job and thanks for the hard work [emoji1360]


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Surprised to see that the Mavrik SZ was one of the least forgiving drivers. I feel like I have hit many balls VERY off center that maintain ball speed (to the best it should) and go much straighter than any driver I've had previously. It is light years ahead of the Cobra F9 that I had last year in terms of forgiveness.

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26 minutes ago, chisag said:

... Of course the Cobra Xtreme (rated Most Forgiving) is a different driver than the Speed Zone which is very similar to last years F9.

Ahh....Thank you for that clarification!  And you are correct, at the time of my club champion fitting, the cobra had not released so my trial was not specifically fitted.  It was a shaft that had similar characteristics to my normal game shafts and was not the stock option, but still not the same thing. 

Glad you are finding what you need out of the Extreme.  Hope that continues for you!

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Lob Wedge:  image.png.3c6db1120d888f669e07d4a8f890b3f1.pngJaws 5 Wedge 58* DG Tour Issue Stiff

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Really surprised the TM SIM was not in there, that was one I had the most interest in. Not in the market as I have the TS2 but still.

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48 minutes ago, sirchunksalot said:

I'm surprised the announcement of the results didn't crash the site. I also didn't expect Ping to take home the crown considering all the buzz over the SIM and Mavrik. Guess that goes to show that you gotta watch out for the quiet ones. Congrats to Ping, and thank you to all of those that contributed to the testing.

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Agreed very surprised that the PING topped it.

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Well some early results I've seen with TM MAX-D seem to correlate with the results. 
Hopefully we get a swing speed breakdown in a few weeks like we did last year. 

Looks like someone commented that and the reply is that breakdown by swing speed will be out in the next few weeks.

It was surprising last year to see the differences between overall and and each speed category.


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Wanted to make sure I am reading this correctly, even after reading the glossary of metrics. This says that the SIM Max (not the Max D) launched 3.23% higher than median and spun 3.15% more than median?

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I have to be blunt and say I dont like the format of this report,  why not just provide the distance in yardages,  i wont even bother reading that chart with just %s,  its of no use to me and I know it will be the same for most.   My 2 cents there.

 

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2 hours ago, sirchunksalot said:

I'm surprised the announcement of the results didn't crash the site. I also didn't expect Ping to take home the crown considering all the buzz over the SIM and Mavrik. Guess that goes to show that you gotta watch out for the quiet ones. Congrats to Ping, and thank you to all of those that contributed to the testing.

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You may believe this or not.  But history has shown traffic on the MGS site is much higher on weekdays vs weekends, and dips during the week when it's  Government Holiday. See the trend here?   In short, most people are more active on MGS---and other SM sites---when at work than when home.   

So I'm sure with the large number of people who are not in offices but working or quarantined at home had something to do with it.   Along with I'm sure the HQ staff has upgraded or taken steps to prevent overloads like we've seen in the past.    

2 hours ago, Lacassem said:

Really surprised the TM SIM was not in there, that was one I had the most interest in. Not in the market as I have the TS2 but still.

I'm not surprised at all based on my personal  experience.  I had the SIM MAX and it just flat out didn't work for me.  Switched to the SIM MAX-D and went up a whole degree in loft and it was much better.  

It truly is  a driver I would recommned getting fit for versus going off specs from a previous fitting, that simply won't work in this case, IMO. 

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12 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

You may believe this or not.  But history has shown traffic on the MGS site is much higher on weekdays vs weekends, and dips during the week when it's  Government Holiday. See the trend here?   In short, most people are more active on MGS---and other SM sites---when at work than when home.   

So I'm sure with the large number of people who are not in offices but working or quarantined at home had something to do with it.   Along with I'm sure the HQ staff has upgraded or taken steps to prevent overloads like we've seen in the past.    

I'm not surprised at all based on my personal  experience.  I had the SIM MAX and it just flat out didn't work for me.  Switched to the SIM MAX-D and went up a whole degree in loft and it was much better.  

It truly is  a driver I would recommned getting fit for versus going off specs from a previous fitting, that simply won't work in this case, IMO. 

What were your issues with the SIM Max, just curious? Was it a right miss?

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