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I agree that the percentages are a good change as it stops people from getting caught up in exact numbers and moves it to a relative conversation which is really what the test is all about, the comparisons between the drivers.

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... And I imagine we will see yardages when the drivers are broken down to 3 different swing speeds where the numbers will make more sense for any individual. 

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14 minutes ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

You may believe this or not.  But history has shown traffic on the MGS site is much higher on weekdays vs weekends, and dips during the week when it's  Government Holiday. See the trend here?   In short, most people are more active on MGS---and other SM sites---when at work than when home.   

So I'm sure with the large number of people who are not in offices but working or quarantined at home had something to do with it.   Along with I'm sure the HQ staff has upgraded or taken steps to prevent overloads like we've seen in the past.    

I'm not surprised at all based on my personal  experience.  I had the SIM MAX and it just flat out didn't work for me.  Switched to the SIM MAX-D and went up a whole degree in loft and it was much better.  

It truly is  a driver I would recommned getting fit for versus going off specs from a previous fitting, that simply won't work in this case, IMO. 

Thanks for the response, and I'm actually surprised by that, too. I think it comes from my background working in an automotive factory that I don't get to spend much time on my phone and have been hopping golf content like crazy since I've been at home.

 

I can't wait to dive deeper into the testing results, as I just read the article without really getting into the table. I just saw a post on Facebook with the shot pattern from testing and all I can say is, wow. It just goes to show the dedication of the MGS staff and testers in giving us the most data driven tests out there.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, chisag said:

... And I imagine we will see yardages when the drivers are broken down to 3 different swing speeds where the numbers will make more sense for any individual. 

I agree that would be a much better place for yardages, with the testing pool being more homogeneous than the larger test.

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Donated $9 to MGS just for giggles.

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Not sure another 18 yards is possible with a stock shaft, and for the Mizuno to show “stiff shaft” with a 115 mph swing speed seems unlikely, but would be fun to see!

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Military computers and internet connections are so bad that I can't tell if the blurry picture is on purpose or if its just another photo not loading

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26 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

I agree that the percentages are a good change as it stops people from getting caught up in exact numbers and moves it to a relative conversation which is really what the test is all about, the comparisons between the drivers.

I would prefer to see a comparison of static loft to launch angle instead. A couple of the drivers are 14% and 17% for launch which brings the average up and makes many other drivers seem very low launching when they might not be. Or at least a column of the average launch to compare the percentages against.


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38 minutes ago, dlow206 said:

What were your issues with the SIM Max, just curious? Was it a right miss?

Mostly too low of launch.  It might have missed a bit more right than left, generally it was pretty straight, just not near high enough.  

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21 minutes ago, PMookie said:

Donated $9 to MGS just for giggles.

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Not sure another 18 yards is possible with a stock shaft, and for the Mizuno to show “stiff shaft” with a 115 mph swing speed seems unlikely, but would be fun to see!

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Seems like Mizuino should be #1 for you based off these numbers. I would be interested to know how the app comes up with the "best" fits.

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19 hours ago, lamb said:

I would prefer to see a comparison of static loft to launch angle instead. A couple of the drivers are 14% and 17% for launch which brings the average up and makes many other drivers seem very low launching when they might not be. Or at least a column of the average launch to compare the percentages against.

Though it sounds like based on the article there was a "fit from stock" approach which means different testers were using different lofts and shafts so that might not work. Maybe a metric around the ratio between static loft and launch angle might provide some useful information.

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10 minutes ago, lamb said:

Military computers and internet connections are so bad that I can't tell if the blurry picture is on purpose or if its just another photo not loading

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Just a little tease, that the results were in.  

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2 minutes ago, ejgaudette said:

Though it sounds like based on the article there was a "fit from stock" approach which means different testers were using different lofts and shafts so that might not work. Maybe a metric around the ration between static loft and launch angle might provide some useful information.

That would work. Maybe just average all the lofts used and average all the launch angles to give the final ratio.


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12 minutes ago, lamb said:

That would work. Maybe just average all the lofts used and average all the launch angles to give the final ratio.

Though if we want to get really into the weeds here. Likely should normalize this against the players average launch angle to account for standard shot shape of each tester.


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1 hour ago, Golfspy_CG2 said:

You may believe this or not.  But history has shown traffic on the MGS site is much higher on weekdays vs weekends, and dips during the week when it's  Government Holiday. See the trend here?   In short, most people are more active on MGS---and other SM sites---when at work than when home.   

So I'm sure with the large number of people who are not in offices but working or quarantined at home had something to do with it.   Along with I'm sure the HQ staff has upgraded or taken steps to prevent overloads like we've seen in the past.    

I'm not surprised at all based on my personal  experience.  I had the SIM MAX and it just flat out didn't work for me.  Switched to the SIM MAX-D and went up a whole degree in loft and it was much better.  

It truly is  a driver I would recommned getting fit for versus going off specs from a previous fitting, that simply won't work in this case, IMO. 

I like the distraction at work from the mundane. Glad I can be the opposite of the trend!

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Driver test was good as always.  Anyone do the TrueFit? I'd suggest to get your driver numbers first, then pay for it.

Geoff

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I appreciate all the time and work put into this. But.... I'm a Titleist guy, so I will probably always play a Titleist driver. I just seem to get along with them. I just bought a new TS3 that I will probably never get to play this year...lol. I did get to play 18 holes with it a few weeks ago.............. Loved it!

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5 hours ago, ejgaudette said:

Though it sounds like based on the article there was a "fit from stock" approach which means different testers were using different lofts and shafts so that might not work. Maybe a metric around the ration between static loft and launch angle might provide some useful information.

You are correct,  the lofts and shafts were set for based on what worked best for us.  

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Anyone have any plans to make a purchase based on the results released today?

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Anyone have any plans to make a purchase based on the results released today?


Not this year. What it does however, is reaffirms why I am playing my G400 LST. A product of consistency.
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Any word on when the test results with the previous year's winners will be released?  I'm excited to see how the past winners stack up with the latest. 


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