artful_golfer Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 8 hours ago, OsoBear said: Isn't kinesthetic and tactile the same thing? No. Kinesthetic employs large movements - like throwing a ball or swinging a club. Tactile involves how things feel when you touch them - like texture and somewhat weight (how your grips feel, etc.) But all of your individual learning styles do work together. 1 Quote PXG 0811 XF driver Serene: 3 wood, 4 & 5 hybrid iron r7 Draw, Flex L: 4, 6 - 9 irons Wedges: RTX Zipcore 46 mid bounce; RTX-3: 52/10 wedge; and Tour Action 900 60* low bounce Armlock putter or E-2 Torque custom fit putter Tour B XS golf ball V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artful_golfer Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 13 hours ago, TShaffer said: Mind blown!! I love this!! I was just discussing the other day the impact learning styles has on the confidence of individuals in difference circumstances. I think this makes a lot of sense! It's true. Teachers learn this as part of their education and part of their evaluations note whether their lessons involve the use of several learning styles in order to reach how various students retain information. The subject is what varies (athletics, science, art, and even advertising) but how we each learn is consistent. Example: I test very high for visual and tactile but low for kinesthetic and super low for auditory. The lady pro I hired to help with my swing had a hunch that my high visual receptors were interfering with me being able to feel how I was swinging. She had me close my eyes after I line up for a shot - and voila!, I hit the ball straight every time. Now whenever I'm having trouble with my swing, I get passed it by hitting with my eyes closed. Even in the middle of a game I have a lot of confidence that I will hit the ball and not embarrass myself by hitting the ground or just air. 3 Quote PXG 0811 XF driver Serene: 3 wood, 4 & 5 hybrid iron r7 Draw, Flex L: 4, 6 - 9 irons Wedges: RTX Zipcore 46 mid bounce; RTX-3: 52/10 wedge; and Tour Action 900 60* low bounce Armlock putter or E-2 Torque custom fit putter Tour B XS golf ball V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, artful_golfer said: It's true. Teachers learn this as part of their education and part of their evaluations note whether their lessons involve the use of several learning styles in order to reach how various students retain information. The subject is what varies (athletics, science, art, and even advertising) but how we each learn is consistent. Example: I test very high for visual and tactile but low for kinesthetic and super low for auditory. The lady pro I hired to help with my swing had a hunch that my high visual receptors were interfering with me being able to feel how I was swinging. She had me close my eyes after I line up for a shot - and voila!, I hit the ball straight every time. Now whenever I'm having trouble with my swing, I get passed it by hitting with my eyes closed. Even in the middle of a game I have a lot of confidence that I will hit the ball and not embarrass myself by hitting the ground or just air. “Tell me and I will forget, show me and I may remember; involve me and I will understand.” ― Confucius 2 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik-M Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 Short answer, yes. And always needs to have a head cover on! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisag Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 8:44 PM, artful_golfer said: By the way, I also have a theory that the best natural putters, right from the beginning, are visual learners because they can naturally read the greens better. ... Interesting premise. I have always been a visual learner and can't stand podcasts, which is ironic since I was a DJ for the first 12 years of my working life. For me a podcast has to be presented by a good voice and be interesting, which knocks out about 90% of them for me. I could never hear a lesson online without visuals. I am a little better with books but always prefer a video. And to your point, I would love to say that after years of study and experience, I have become really good at reading greens. The truth is it always came easy for me to see the correct line with the correct speed. Since I am a die in the hole putter, I have no problem seeing the maximum break needed to have the ball roll into the front, side and even sometimes back of the hole. When I taught full time and gave putting lessons, I was shocked at how many were confused by the break and how hard to hit the putt. "I can maybe hit it on this one if I am aggressive and maybe way up here somewhere if I roll it slow and maybe somewhere in the middle with really good speed". No wonder they can't read greens with all theat conflicting information in their heads. 1 2 Quote Driver: SIM2 Max 10.5* ... AD-IZ 6SR Fairway: SIM2 Max 15/18* ... Tensei Raw Blue 65R Hybrids: RBZ Tour Hybrid 21.5* ... Diamana Ltd 65R Utility: UDi 18* ... Even Flow Black 85R hy Irons: 4-9 MIM Tour ... Steelfiber i95R Wedges: MG3 46*/50*/58* LB ... Steelfiber i95R Putter: 6330 LTD Edition ... 33.5" Ball: Maxfli Maxfli Tour '23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artful_golfer Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, chisag said: ... Interesting premise. . . And to your point, I would love to say that after years of study and experience, I have become really good at reading greens. The truth is it always came easy for me to see the correct line with the correct speed. Since I am a die in the hole putter, I have no problem seeing the maximum break needed to have the ball roll into the front, side and even sometimes back of the hole. When I taught fun time and gave putting lessons, I was shocked at how many were confused by the break and how hard to hit the putt. "I can maybe hit it on this one if I am aggressive and maybe way up here somewhere if I roll it slow and maybe somewhere in the middle with really good speed". No wonder they can't read greens with all theat conflicting information in their heads. I get it. I have been a good putter from my very first lesson and have no trouble reading the greens. It's the kinesthetic coordination of big swings that knock me for a loop. Quote PXG 0811 XF driver Serene: 3 wood, 4 & 5 hybrid iron r7 Draw, Flex L: 4, 6 - 9 irons Wedges: RTX Zipcore 46 mid bounce; RTX-3: 52/10 wedge; and Tour Action 900 60* low bounce Armlock putter or E-2 Torque custom fit putter Tour B XS golf ball V3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebird Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 No, as long as it works. It is the most used club in your bag so it has it looks should not matter. 2 Quote Callaway Epic Flash 9 Degree Callaway Epic Flash 3 wood 15 Degree Callaway Apex 21 Hybrid 19 Degree Callaway Steelhead Pro 4-AW Irons Cleveland 54 Degree Wedge Steel Shaft Recoil Graphite Shafts in all Callaway Cobra Vintage Series Stingray 40 Preferred ball - Seed 001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzyzxx Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 It has to look good at address! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleWalter Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 In my opinion, a putter must be appealing to the eye. I always keep mine in a cover. I hate seeing a putter get all dinged up from bag chatter. However, some people think the dings build character. I guess to each their own. One thing I've noticed is that my putter looks better when putts are dropping. 2 Quote Currently in my Sun Mountain Phantom Driver: Callaway Rogue 4W: Callaway Rogue 7W: Callaway Rogue 4-GW: PXG 0211 SW/LW: Taylor Made Milled Grind Putter: PXG Mustang Gen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRW Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Yes, it has to look good. Not just at address, but in general. Quote Ogio Woode 8 Hybrid Stand Bag PXG 0811 X Gen4 @ 6* - Fujikura Motore X F3 7X PXG 0211 @ 13.5* - Fujikura Motore X F1 8X PXG 0311 XP Gen3 3i-PW - PX LZ 6.5 PXG 0311 Forged 54/60 - PX LZ 6.5 Scotty Cameron Special Select Newport 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808nation Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 To me it has to look good and feel good. If it doesn't look right when I'm over it, then it won't feel comfortable. Get fit to see what putter type will work for you and go shopping, you don't need a $400 putter, but get one that feels and performs good for YOU. Quote WITB: Driver: Sim2 Max w/ Fujikura Motore X F3 shaft FW Wood: F9 wood 14.5* Hybrids: Sim2 Max 3 Hybrid & Vapor Flex 4 hybrid Irons: Z565 - 7 thru PW & ZU85 - 5 thru 6 with Recoil ZT9 F4 shafts Wedges: RTX4 52*, 56*, 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron M2 Newport Ball: Black & Pro V1 Bag: 2018 MyGolfSpy stand Bag & 2021 Greenside Golf stand bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerospace_ray Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 Until MGS started educating us about what golfers perceived they performed well with vs what they actually had more success with, I would say it absolutely has to look good and feel right. BUT......I started paying attention to the putters with unique geometries, the putters that had sight lines or dots, anything regarding alignment and I chose several putters that actually reduced/improved my putts from all distances and hate to admit, they are not eye candy nor very good looking. However, they look better more and more as my HDCP goes down. Yes I am older and my vision is not as good. So I got glasses and learned how to better read greens (I like aim point ) . But my current putters work better than what played with for so many years So I guess I should have up front just said NO a putter does not have to look good for me anymore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgreen44 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I think looks and a putter go hand in hand. If I don’t love the look I frankly don’t care to use it even if it does give me a small advantage. Now, if I made money playing golf then I’d have a very different thought. I’d find every advantage possible and as someone said, I’d put with a brick if it was better than my $400 shiny putter. I have too many putters and plan to add more based on how they look. I think my next step is to actually get a putter fitting. I’d be very curious of what I like would be contradicted by data (I’m 100% sure it would) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent Mike Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I don’t think you should be buying putter for looks as the top priority. I don’t play a flashy putter, just a stock Pink Ketsch. It’s changed my game so much I’m scared to get another putter. I’m tempted to try the Evnroll blade which isn’t flashy either, except they don’t make the two models I’d try in leftie... Flashy putters are cool to look at, putters that work are fun to play with. Not saying flashy putter don’t work, just haven’t gone down that road before. Quote WITB Cobra F9 Speed Back w/Fujikura Atmos x70 black, Cobra Fly Z Pro Irons 4-PW, Vokey 52, 56, and 60.04L(thanks MGS for the lesson), Ping Ketsch Putter, Ping Pioneer Bag, Tri Swivel II Cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfSpy_BOS Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Short answer, yes. And always needs to have a head cover on!Don’t you find it difficult to putt with the headcover on? I kid I kid. The only time I had a head overNot on my putter while in the bag was when I had an OGIO bag that reallllly separated the putter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Epic Max LS 10.5 - Motore X F3 6X | Speedzone 5-wood - Ventus Blue 8S | TSi3 20* Hybrid - KBS Proto 85S KING Forged Tec 5-GW - Nippon Modus 120X | KING MIM Black 52.12C, 56.10V, 60.04W - Nippon Modus 125 Wedge ER2B | Pro V1x | NX9 Slope | Traverse | CaddyLite EZ v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatjasonlee Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I don't think it's necessary something that looks good. For me, the putter has to make me FEEL good. Not the putter itself needs to feel good. It needs to make me FEEL good. Kinda weird to explain, but I am gonna try. I have two putters right now. One is a silky smooth Scotty California Del Mar that I've taken really good care of so it's essentially blemish free. The other that I have is a second hand Scotty Red X that has not been well taken care of. One looks a lot better than the other. But I switch back for forth when I practice, and when one doesn't make me feel good, I go to the other. Right now, it's the Red X that's in my bag. So for me, it's not how the putter looks for feels, it's how it makes me feel? I don't know if that makes any sense at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavinski91 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 It depends what "look good" means. If it means "attractive" then no. But there is definitely a "look" to a putter in terms of alignment (since I strongly prefer mallets) that allows me to more easily see if I'm aligned with my target line. Color for me plays a big part of it - if the alignment aid doesn't incorporate white (either a white alignment line, or a black/colored alignment line on a wider white line) then it doesn't "look good" while I'm standing over it and I'm not comfortable and confident in my stroke. Quote Driver - Radspeed XB, Aldila Rogue Silver 70-S 3 Wood - Radspeed, Aldila Rogue Silver 70-S 5 Wood - Radspeed, Fujikura Motore X F3 6-S 7 Wood - PXG 0341x Gen 4, Mitsubishi Tensei AV Raw Blue 75-S Irons - Radspeed 5-GW, KBS $-Taper Lite S Wedges - King Cobra Snakebite 52° & 58°, KBS Hi-Rev 2.0 S Putter - Stroke Lab Black Ten 35" Ball - Z-Star XV Powered by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosox04 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 My putter has to look good to me. If I don't like the looks, I won't even consider using it. All my clubs have to look good to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah T Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Looks will definitely make me pick up a putter, but feel will make me put it down just as quick.Sent from my iPhone using MyGolfSpy Quote Driver - Cobra LtDxLS 3 Wood - Ping g410 LST 2iron - Titleist U505 Irons - Ping i59 Wedges - Vokey Sm9 Putter - Mizuno Mcraft IV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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