Middler Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 My regular course just reopened with lots of conditions, among them cups that are only about 1" deep. I love them, and I'm hoping some courses will keep them in perpetuity, long after Covid-19 is a bad memory. It makes it a lot easier to fish the ball out, especially now that we're mostly leaving pins in. And I don't know, but I'm guessing it really doesn't make much if any difference on % of putts that drop. You? 2 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 TSR w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06 w MCC+4 Midsize Evnroll ER5B Fit@TrueSpec w P2 Touch Tour Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, FJ DryJoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveP043 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I haven't seen putts "rejected" by the foam inserts we now have, but I don't see any actual reason to change the rules of golf concerning the actual cup dimensions. 2 Quote Irons Titleist AP2 714, KBS Tour S, 3 flat Rogue SubZero, GD YS-Six X 52, 56, and 60 wedges B60 G5i putter Right handed Reston, Virginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMookie Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I like them change as well! I did have one put pop-out of the cup, but only one.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro 2 Quote Driver: Honma TR 460 8.5*, Aldila RIP Alpha 80 S, 45 1/4"; Ping G425 LST, Fujikura Speeder TR 661 S, 45 1/2" hybrids: Cobra King Tec 17* and 21*, both with Graphite Design Tour AD-DI 105 X Irons: Srixon ZX5 4-6, ZX7 7-PW, UST Mamiya Recoil F4, +1” Wedges: SMS 50D/54V/58DModus 130 stiff, +1” Putter: EAS 1.0 All but putter have Lamkin ST+2 Hybrid Calibrate midsize built to oversize +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 11 hours ago, DaveP043 said: I haven't seen putts "rejected" by the foam inserts we now have, but I don't see any actual reason to change the rules of golf concerning the actual cup dimensions. I like the shallow cups simply because it’s much easier to fish the ball out now that most people I play with leave the pin in. It often takes a couple tries to get the ball out with the pin in when only two fingers fit in the hole with a normal (deeper) cup. It’s not just me, I’ve seen many others reach in 2-3 times before getting their ball out with a normal cup. If we still pulled pins, I wouldn’t have cared. It’s the combination of shallow cups and leaving the pin in that makes sense to me, but I doubt my wish for permanent shallow cups will be granted. 3 Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 TSR w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06 w MCC+4 Midsize Evnroll ER5B Fit@TrueSpec w P2 Touch Tour Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, FJ DryJoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony@CIC Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I like them change as well! I did have one put pop-out of the cup, but only one.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProI had a birdie putt pop out the other day, but I still counted it as a bird. I figured if the cup wasn't raised it would have gone in especially since it just went a couple of inches past the hole. Sent from my iPad using MyGolfSpy 2 Quote Left Hand orientation SIM 2 D Max with Fujikura Air Speeder Shaft Cobra Radspeed 3W/RIptide Shaft 410 Hybrids 22*, 26* Cobra Speed Zone 6-GP/Recoil ESX 460 F3 Shafts SM7 54* Wedge Glide 3.0 60* Wedge O Works putter V3 NX9-HD - 4 Wheel EZGO TXT 48v cart - too many shoes to list and so many to buy And BAG Boy Golf Balls: Vice Pro Plus 2020 Official Tester Beginning Driver Speed - 78 2019 Official Tester 410 Driver 2018 Official Tester C300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I don't like them! I have seen good putts rejected. While I may want to count it as good, my opponents will likely call foul. Our club used the shallow cup (with pool noodle insert) but someone complained that people were touching the flagpole and could spread the virus (????), so they went back to the raised cup, which is even more difficult to claim the putt is good IMO. I'll be glad when we go back to standard cups (for more reasons than the obvious). 4 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: Stroke Lab 7S Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny B Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, CarlH said: I don't like them! I have seen good putts rejected. While I may want to count it as good, my opponents will likely call foul. Our club used the shallow cup (with pool noodle insert) but someone complained that people were touching the flagpole and could spread the virus (????), so they went back to the raised cup, which is even more difficult to claim the putt is good IMO. I'll be glad when we go back to standard cups (for more reasons than the obvious). Your "buddies" are just looking out for you!! If you had one foot in the grave, they would probably would say that it doesn't count!! 1 3 Quote “We don’t stop playing the game because we get old; we get old because we stop playing the game.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 30 minutes ago, Kenny B said: Your "buddies" are just looking out for you!! If you had one foot in the grave, they would probably would say that it doesn't count!! The power of the almighty dollar at work! 3 Quote Driver: Rogue ST Max (10.5* set at -1 and neutral) -- Mitsubishi Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Fairway: Rogue ST Max 3 wood (16.5*) and Heaven Wood (20*)-- Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Hybrids: Rogue ST Max 5H (23*)--Tensai Blue 55g R shaft Irons: Apex CF19 6-9, PW, AW -- KBS Tour Graphite TGI 70 shafts R +1/2 inch 3* upright Wedges: Edison 53* and 57* KBS PGI 80 Graphite +1/2 inch 2* upright Putter: Stroke Lab 7S Ball: Maxfli TourX...Golf Bag: Pioneer...Shoes: Hyperflex... Glove: Red Rooster Feather My Photography can be seen at Smugmug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cksurfdude Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 On 4/8/2020 at 12:08 PM, Middler said: My regular course just reopened with lots of conditions, among them cups that are only about 1" deep. I love them, and I'm hoping some courses will keep them in perpetuity, long after Covid-19 is a bad memory. It makes it a lot easier to fish the ball out, especially now that we're mostly leaving pins in. And I don't know, but I'm guessing it really doesn't make much if any difference on % of putts that drop. You? I completely agree, especially for recreational golf. But USGA- and PGA-sanctioned competitive event, no, it won't last. For amateur recreational play I'm all even having the cup raised and, yes, calling it good if it touches anywhere. Maybe a separate topic which has been well-discussed in other threads but the pace of play when a group gets to the putting green............................................................................ 1 Quote WITB of an "aspiring" play-ah ... ..PXG Gen5 0811XF (PX EvenFlow Riptide CB 50/5.0 or Grafalloy Prolaunch Blue 45/A) ..Callaway Bertha Mini 1.5 (UST ProForce V2-HL 5/F3) ..Callaway Rogue ST Max OS 4H (PX Cypher Black 50/5.0) ..Callaway Big Bertha 5H (Recoil ZT9 460/F3) ..PXG 0211 6i-GW (Mitsubishi MMT 60/A) ..Cleveland CBX2 54 and CBX 60 (Rotex graphite) ..EvnRoll ER5 or MLA XDream (..Edel EAS 4.0 on the bench) ..all in a Datrek bag on an MGI Zip Navigator electric cart. Forum Member tester for the ExPutt Putting Simulator (2020) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEZIPR23 Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 6 1 Quote SIM 9.5* (GD XC 6X) SIM 15* (GD DI 7X) 3 DHY (GD DI HY8X) ZX7 4-PW (KBS C Taper S) Vokey SM8 49 08 F ( KBS 610) Vokey SM8 55 08 M (KBS 610) Vokey SM8 59 04 L (KBS 610) Special Select SquareBack 2 33" ProV1 Twitter @THEZIPR23 "One thing Golf has taught me, is that my muscles have no memory." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleDanger Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I have found that having foam “noodles” in the cup has encouraged me to make a more forceful stroke as I get a little joy out of bouncing the ball off the foam and back towards me. I think this will help me after the virus has passed () as I was always one to try to die the ball into the hole. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
release Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 (edited) We don't have "shallow cup" , we have raised cup lining. Where the white plastic cup lining is raised a few inches off the putting surface and consider holed out if the golf ball touched any part of the cup lining. Flag stayed in and no one touches any part of the flag stick nor the cup. Kind of funky not "hole" out a putt and some of the guys will hit their putt extra firm to hold a better line to hit the white plastic cup lining. I don't like it but, that's the way the golf course is set up. Seriously, I might just wait out the whole thing until it's over, even if I have to sacrifice this golf season. Edited May 4, 2020 by release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnosil Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 We don't have "shallow cup" , we have raised cup lining. Where the white plastic cup lining is raised a few inches off the putting surface and consider holed out if the golf ball touched any part of the cup lining. Flag stayed in and no one touches any part of the flag stick nor the cup. Kind of funky not "hole" out a putt and some of the guys will hit their putt extra firm to hold a better line to hit the white plastic cup lining. I don't like it but, that's the way the golf course is set up. Seriously, I might just wait out the whole thing until it's over, even if I have to sacrifice this golf season. The may actually become better putters after the cup is returned to the normal position provided they keep their speed up. 1 Quote Driver: G400 Max 9* w/ KBS Tour Driven Fairway: TS3 15* w/Project X Hzardous Smoke Hybrids: 915H 21* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype 915H 24* w/KBS Tour Graphite Hybrid Prototype Irons: TR20V 6-11 w/Vizard TR20-85 Graphite Wedge: 54/12D, 60/8M w/:Accra iWedge 90 Graphite Putter: mFGP2 Backups: TM-180, Milled Collection RSX 2, Bellum Winmore 787, Directed Force 2.1 Member: MGS Hitsquad since 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian A Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hate them, had a few pop out and also cant stand leaving flag in. It messes with me Quote Driver: G425 9* Hzrdus Smoke Green Small batch 6.5 70g Fairway Wood: Cobra Radspeed Big 3 Hybrid: iCrossover 2 Iron smoke black stiff Irons: T200 (4-AW) AMT Black Stiff Shafts Wedges: Tour Rack 56* 60* Putter: Scotty Cameron Golo 5 Right Handed Pittsburgh, PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
release Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Our golf courses around here been using the shallow cut method for the practice greens fro many years now. It's good for the turf and faster recovery, but personally, i am just used to the traditional cup. In many of the Asian courses overseas, using the metal lining for the cup increased the pleasure of the senses when the golf ball make the clinking sound at the bottom of the metal cup. That nice crisp clink really reinforced the confidence of making a stroke on the putting green. Edited May 18, 2020 by release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothG Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I have found that I really enjoy leaving the pin in. I've always been against it as I felt it was distracting. I am putting better and don't have to worry about setting the pin down and then replacing it when we leave. Quote PXG 0211 10.5* Callaway Mavrik 21* 7W Taylormade RSi1 5 Iron Taylormade RSi2 6-PW Taylormade PSI 50* Callaway Jaws 54* C Grind Wilson Staff Infinite Southside Maxfli Tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaidJacket Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 4/8/2020 at 11:08 AM, Middler said: I love them, and I'm hoping some courses will keep them in perpetuity, Not this guy. I'm sorta - barely ok for the time being during the abnormal panic-demic. The most annoying part of keeping flags in anytime is when the shadows of the flag interfere. Very distracting if you axe me. I have also seen a few times where a pin in - especially where a cup is inverted or a pool noodle isn't deep enough causing a lip out. I actually holed (flew directly in) an approach a couple of weeks ago but of course it had no chance due to the foam noodle. We're currently living in the Abnormal and we need to return to Normal. Quickly... before somebody catches a common cold and we have a run on Kleenex. Quote My Sun Mountain bag currently includes: 771CSI 5i - PW and PFC Micro Tour-c 52°, 56°, 60 wedges EXS 10.5*, 929-HS FW4 16.5* Willimette w/GolfPride Contour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffleHouseTour Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 My home course has the pool noodle, which is fine. Played at the Prairie Club this weekend and they had a piece of PVC, irregular cut so the ball rolls around to the low point. Kinda interesting. either way, it’s shallow, but if your ball is popping out as some have stated they’ve made it too shallow. Ive always been a flag stick in guy,, even before the rule change when walking and playing by myself, so no worries there. Quote Walking ahead of my BagBoy QuadXL w Alphard eWheels Driver: Callaway Mavrik SubZero 9* Neutral w stock Evenflow Riptide R flex shaft 3W Titelist TS2 15* Draw w Tensei Blue R flex 3H, 4H Cobra One Length F9 Speedback hybrids (1”short) w Fujikura Atmos R flex shaft 5I-GW Cobra Forged TEC Black One Length (1”short, 2* flat) KBS 90 R flex shafts 56, 60 Cobra King MIM One Length Black (1” short) KBS HiRev2.0 125 S flex shafts ER7 or Scotty Futura X - 35” OnCore Elixr (lemon or lime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixyurdivot Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Agree, the shallow cup works great. I've played several variations of the "virus cup" to include what looked like inverted cups in AZ (creating a cone) and several versions of the foam noodle. I've seen a couple cases of what we thought were pop-outs due to the changes, but the group called them "makes". It's much better not having to dig down into the cup to extract the ball - especially when leaving the flag in. What will be fun is seeing one of those long distance swish shots rebound off the foam . Quote G410 Plus, 9 Degree Driver G400 SFT, 16 Degree 3w G400 SFT, 19 Degree 5w ZX5 Irons 4-AW Glide 2.0 56 Degree SW (removed from double secret probation ) ER5v Putter (Evnroll ER5v Official Review) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middler Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, WaffleHouseTour said: either way, it’s shallow, but if your ball is popping out as some have stated they’ve made it too shallow. Yeah, I’ve yet to see a ball pop out. Our course is just putting the cup insert in upside down, no special depth. Quote Titleist TSR2 11° HZRDUS Red CB 50 6.0 TSR w Lamkin UTx Midsize Titleist TSR2 16.5º HZRDUS Red 60 6.0 & TSR2 21º HZRDUS Black 4G 70 6.0 w Lamkin UTx Midsize Mizuno JPX900 Forged 4-GW, S18 56.10, S18 60.06 w MCC+4 Midsize Evnroll ER5B Fit@TrueSpec w P2 Touch Tour Maxfli Tour & ProV1 Ping Pioneer - MGI Zip Navigator AT Payntr X 002 LE, Ecco Biom C4, FJ DryJoys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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